Author Topic: Ashes 2013-14 (Read 17906 times)

ferret · « **Reply #150 on:** 23 December, 2013, 10:47:29 am »

and it rumbles on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/25489391

Jaded · « **Reply #151 on:** 23 December, 2013, 10:53:52 am »

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"It's quite simple. I came on this trip half expecting to be my last tour for England," he said at the MCG.

"But with the Ashes gone in those three Test matches, personally I think to stay on and selfishly play just to experience another Boxing Day Test or Sydney Test match would be wrong.

"It would be wrong for me and wrong for the team as well.

"It's time for someone else to strap themselves in and enjoy the ride like I have done.

"It's time for England to rebuild and refocus on winning back these big series and me hanging around with the decision already made wouldn't be right."

ferret · « **Reply #152 on:** 23 December, 2013, 06:26:02 pm »

but just because he's there doesn't mean he would have been picked for either of the last two games,perhaps the wickets would be more suitable for the quicks or some other BS that they come out with at times like this, then he could have come home and gracefully and unselfishly retire,
Unless of course there is some real bad vibes in the dressing room right now and he just doesn't want to be involved, if that's the case then fair play to him, it has already been pointed out that he is one of the highest wicket takers for the England team and no one can take that away from him.
Although watching Strictly on Saturday Darren Gough did say that despite his taking 200+ wickets for England he is best remembered for his Strictly appearance (despite his bad knee at the time)

Jaded · « **Reply #153 on:** 23 December, 2013, 06:40:48 pm »

Maybe his elbow is worse than thought.

mattc · « **Reply #154 on:** 26 December, 2013, 05:30:35 pm »

KP was dropped - at midwicket, surprisingly - on 45. And on the boundary a few runs earlier.

And yet Sir Geoff is full of praise for his application in this innings?

??

andyoxon · « **Reply #155 on:** 27 December, 2013, 08:48:59 am »

Some actual highlights to watch for the first time...

Wowbagger · « **Reply #156 on:** 27 December, 2013, 10:08:45 am »

Did anyone see this?

It's a shame that Morgan was still walking afterwards, but it has its comedy value nonetheless.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/dec/27/piers-morgan-brett-lee-over-cricket

ferret · « **Reply #157 on:** 27 December, 2013, 07:07:03 pm »

Quote from: mattc on 26 December, 2013, 05:30:35 pm

KP was dropped - at midwicket, surprisingly - on 45. And on the boundary a few runs earlier.

And yet Sir Geoff is full of praise for his application in this innings???

mmmm left me a bit confused also,

considering he was the last "batsman" with Broad at the other end I would have said it was typical selfish batting from KP, he already put his opinion forward in an interview the other day, basically he doesn't care what anybody says or how many mistakes he makes, he bats how he bats end of, if you don't like it tough!! talk about the tail wagging the dog. Someone did mention that perhaps Gooch's style of coaching/batting doesn't suit everybody which is fair enough, once you've got the basics in place batting is a very individual skill.

bobb · « **Reply #158 on:** 27 December, 2013, 07:44:02 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 27 December, 2013, 10:08:45 am

Did anyone see this?

It's a shame that Morgan was still walking afterwards, but it has its comedy value nonetheless.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/dec/27/piers-morgan-brett-lee-over-cricket

To be fair to Morgan, that takes some serious balls!

Wowbagger · « **Reply #159 on:** 27 December, 2013, 07:49:07 pm »

Quote from: bobb on 27 December, 2013, 07:44:02 pm

Quote from: Wowbagger on 27 December, 2013, 10:08:45 am
Did anyone see this?

It's a shame that Morgan was still walking afterwards, but it has its comedy value nonetheless.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/dec/27/piers-morgan-brett-lee-over-cricket

To be fair to Morgan, that takes some serious balls!

Indeed! Not that I'd noticed, but he'd been shooting his mouth off for quite some time about the disastrous England batting and Brett Lee challenged him to face an over in the nets. It looks a damned sight more fearsome from a camera placed by the non-striker's stumps than it does from the normal angle over the sight screen.

Do you remember David Steel being selected for England to try to staunch the wicket haemorrhage against Lillee & Thompson in 1975? He did pretty well, scoring (I think), 72 in his first innings against them. I understand that he was greeted at the wicket by the pithy one-liner from Rodney Marsh "Bloody hell, who the hell's this? Groucho Marx?"

bobb · « **Reply #160 on:** 27 December, 2013, 08:40:46 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 27 December, 2013, 07:49:07 pm

Do you remember David Steel being selected for England to try to staunch the wicket haemorrhage against Lillee & Thompson in 1975?

I'm afraid I don't. I have a fairly good excuse though

Wowbagger · « **Reply #161 on:** 27 December, 2013, 08:44:11 pm »

Quote from: bobb on 27 December, 2013, 08:40:46 pm

Quote from: Wowbagger on 27 December, 2013, 07:49:07 pm
Do you remember David Steel being selected for England to try to staunch the wicket haemorrhage against Lillee & Thompson in 1975?

I'm afraid I don't. I have a fairly good excuse though

I thought you might have some smartarse answer like that!

Wowbagger · « **Reply #162 on:** 27 December, 2013, 08:46:06 pm »

David Steele

Do you think he ought to be recalled for the final test?

Peter · « **Reply #163 on:** 27 December, 2013, 09:12:34 pm »

I suppose Brett Lee's out of practice now but he only hit the stumps once (and that was a leg stump) - I think you'd expect better when you knew the batsman was going to be at leg-slip for the whole over! But Lee's action is superb.

Jakob · « **Reply #164 on:** 28 December, 2013, 12:02:38 am »

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/dec/27/piers-morgan-brett-lee-over-cricket

That alone made Englands loss of the Ashes wortwhile.

andyoxon · « **Reply #165 on:** 28 December, 2013, 12:04:15 am »

Hopefully Haddin won't erode the whole lead... $:-\$

Jaded · « **Reply #166 on:** 28 December, 2013, 12:46:02 am »

Quote from: Jakob on 28 December, 2013, 12:02:38 am

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2013/dec/27/piers-morgan-brett-lee-over-cricket

That alone made Englands loss of the Ashes wortwhile.

Are you ignoring Wow?

Jakob · « **Reply #167 on:** 28 December, 2013, 01:20:19 am »

Nah, just blind..did scroll through to see if anyone else posted it...apologies.

Jaded · « **Reply #168 on:** 28 December, 2013, 04:51:55 am »

It is worth watching twice, to be fair,

Unlike our most recent collapse.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #169 on:** 28 December, 2013, 05:21:48 am »

Insomniac's corner.

England lead by 215. Apparently Australia have only ever recorded 3 wins at the MCG when they have exceeded this total in the fourth innings and the most recent of those was 1961.

287 for 5 in 1929
260 for 9 in 1951
258 for 8 in 1961

Wowbagger · « **Reply #170 on:** 28 December, 2013, 08:09:09 am »

Bugger! I go to sleep and they lose 4 wickets for buggerall. I thought England might set 250, which might have made a match of it. I reckon Aus will get this without much worry.

andyoxon · « **Reply #171 on:** 28 December, 2013, 08:37:43 am »

These collapses are getting tedious - well played Aus I suppose. The pitch must have been 'doing something'; perhaps England bowlers will...

Jaded · « **Reply #172 on:** 28 December, 2013, 09:12:37 am »

It is a drop-in pitch, they've got hydraulic rams under it that move it when we are batting.

Pingu · « **Reply #173 on:** 28 December, 2013, 11:51:55 am »

Quote from: Peter on 27 December, 2013, 09:12:34 pm

I suppose Brett Lee's out of practice now but he only hit the stumps once (and that was a leg stump) - I think you'd expect better when you knew the batsman was going to be at leg-slip for the whole over! But Lee's action is superb.

If I were in Lee's position, I wouldn't be aiming for the stumps

Jaded · « **Reply #174 on:** 29 December, 2013, 09:03:03 am »

Oh well, at least we tried a bit in that one...

Snatching defeat from jaws glimmering with a faint glow of victory.