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citoyen

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #25 on: 19 March, 2019, 01:13:34 pm »
Lori Lieberman was inspired to write this after seeing Don Mclean in concert, but it's Roberta Flack's version we all know...

https://youtu.be/WxY47jh9owA
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #26 on: 19 March, 2019, 01:37:52 pm »
Similarly "Because the Night" is not a Patti Smith original. Neither is "Hey Joe" a Jimi Hendrix composition.

Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #27 on: 19 March, 2019, 01:47:31 pm »
Allegedly Springsteen couldn't get a version of Because the night he was happy with so he gave it to Patti Smith who was in the recording studio next door.
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #28 on: 19 March, 2019, 01:56:25 pm »
I think the term 'cover' is used a bit too broadly. A cover is a simultaneous release of the same song, usually because the original artist is too busy to promote the record in a market.

The UK was particularly prone to that, especially in the heyday of variety shows featuring Cilla, Cliff and others of their ilk. It was often Cilla covering Bacharach/David songs sung by Dionne Warwick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsiGMKHJ8k

True covers became rarer after videos came to the fore, and as variety shows declined.

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #29 on: 19 March, 2019, 02:04:48 pm »
I used to think The Prodigy invented the tune from 'Out Of Space'.

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Re: Original songs that are actually covers
« Reply #30 on: 19 March, 2019, 06:03:40 pm »
Adele and "Make You Feel My Love". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.
Not in my world. I don’t think I’ve even heard Adele’s version - and long may it stay that way.

Oh well then -
Hendrix and "All Along the Watchtower". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.
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citoyen

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Re: Original songs that are actually covers
« Reply #31 on: 19 March, 2019, 06:31:02 pm »
Adele and "Make You Feel My Love". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.
Not in my world. I don’t think I’ve even heard Adele’s version - and long may it stay that way.

Oh well then -
Hendrix and "All Along the Watchtower". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.

Can't argue with that.

But to be fair, I don't think I get to be the arbiter of these things anyway. And a lot of it is generational - kids these days think Hallelujah is an Alexandra Burke song, and who am I to tell them they're wrong?

I don't listen to the kind of radio stations that play Adele's stuff, so it's not really surprising that one passed me by.
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #32 on: 19 March, 2019, 07:08:04 pm »
And another, with Ry Cooder on slide guitar as an added bonus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3Al4hPKYs


citoyen

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #33 on: 19 March, 2019, 07:12:44 pm »
And another, with Ry Cooder on slide guitar as an added bonus:

That one came up in the same quiz as the Springsteen one I mentioned earlier.
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #34 on: 19 March, 2019, 07:14:14 pm »
Oh yeah, then there's this one. Leiber & Stoller had to be taken to court before they would admit that the song was not, originally, theirs.

The Coasters, 'Shoppin' for Clothes':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetJMlt3-l4

'Clothes Line' by Boogaloo & His Gallant Crew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuY5rBDPuyE

Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #35 on: 19 March, 2019, 08:07:41 pm »
The Clash - I fought the law.  Originally recorded by Bobby Fuller (who?)

Actually, it was originally recorded by The Crickets in 1958-59 and released in 1960 - five years before the Bobby Fuller Four had a hit with their version.
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Re: Original songs that are actually covers
« Reply #36 on: 20 March, 2019, 11:34:40 am »
Adele and "Make You Feel My Love". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.
Not in my world. I don’t think I’ve even heard Adele’s version - and long may it stay that way.

Oh well then -
Hendrix and "All Along the Watchtower". Its taken over from the Bob Dylan original.

Even His Bobness rated Jimi's version higher than his own.  About the only person who didn't was Noel Redding; the story has it that he got fed up with Hendrix' interminable faffing and sloped off to the pub only to find on returning that someone - variously reported as Dave Mason from Traffic or Hendrix himself - had done the bass part in his absence.
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citoyen

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #37 on: 21 March, 2019, 07:38:48 pm »
Well you've got one over on me there! Very surprised.

Good, innit?

But if that one surprised you, this one will really bake your noggin - another Nerves track made famous by a different artist...

https://youtu.be/SexQY6XmDB8


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Yeah, from what I can gather, it’s something to do with the song being used in a film that I’ve never heard of.
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #38 on: 21 March, 2019, 07:52:07 pm »
Well you've got one over on me there! Very surprised.

Good, innit?

But if that one surprised you, this one will really bake your noggin - another Nerves track made famous by a different artist...

https://youtu.be/SexQY6XmDB8

You've got two over on me as I don't even recognize what it's the original of!  :o
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citoyen

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"Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #39 on: 21 March, 2019, 08:11:46 pm »
You've got two over on me as I don't even recognize what it's the original of!  :o

To be fair, it does sound like a completely different song...
https://youtu.be/aeeJhEpeUfc

I love both versions - always had a bit of a soft spot for Paul Young
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #40 on: 23 March, 2019, 12:31:47 pm »
Well you've got one over on me there! Very surprised.

Good, innit?

But if that one surprised you, this one will really bake your noggin - another Nerves track made famous by a different artist...

https://youtu.be/SexQY6XmDB8
Looks like we both listened to all their stuff on Youtube!  I heard that song and thought - This is familiar... - but didn't join the dots at the time. Now the truth has dawned on me  :o
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citoyen

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #41 on: 23 March, 2019, 12:38:29 pm »
Looks like we both listened to all their stuff on Youtube!

I downloaded the One Way Ticket album, which is not so much a best-of as a compilation of their entire recorded output, including the live stuff. They were not a long-lived band!

There's another Jack Lee composition on Parallel Lines - Will Anything Happen? - but from what I can gather, I don't think the Nerves ever recorded that themselves.
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #42 on: 23 March, 2019, 01:53:04 pm »
Tainted Love - Soft Cell (actually Gloria Jones)

Hush - Deep Purple (actually Billy Joe Royal)

Hurt - Johnny Cash (actually Nine Inch Nails)

Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #43 on: 23 March, 2019, 02:05:29 pm »
Bruce Woolley was the first of the writers of 'Video Killed The Radio Star' to release a version thereof, before the other two (Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes) had the hit with it as Buggles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HLwljnmzR8

'Sloe Gin' was first recorded by Tim Curry, long before Joe Bonamassa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmReoyth7H8

'Good Times' as popularised by The Lost Boys soundtrack, was originally by the Easybeats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adq6CrkiyZ0

'Step On' by the Happy Mondays is a cover of 'He's Gonna Step On You Again' by John Kongos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTxjJrn2g4

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #44 on: 29 March, 2019, 11:15:12 am »
I was very surprised to learn (courtesy of The Guardian) that the Four Tops were not the first to record this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqAh1dQu_pg#action=share

I imagine also that many people are unaware that this by Harry Nilsson:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AzEY6ZqkuE is a cover of the far superior Fred Neil original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAOjKBLpqo
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #45 on: 29 March, 2019, 12:01:59 pm »
Bill Withers also did a great version of Everybody's Talkin' on his first album in 1971.   

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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #46 on: 29 March, 2019, 12:41:21 pm »
Approximately 27.3% of the non-hiphop output of Top Of The Pops when I was a teenager.  Always unnerving when your parents start singing along to brand new stuff.  I assume this effect is pretty universal?
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #47 on: 08 April, 2019, 11:45:28 pm »
A trans friend of mine, very into the, ahem, 'scene' music, was talking about karaoke. I heard her say "I do a great Tina, you know: Suzie Q"

I mentioned CCR and John Fogerty, and got a "Who?"

When I looked it up, TL/DR: CCR was ripped off hugely by management. Fogerty lost the rights to the songs, and refused to perform them. He was egged on at one superstar gig, IIRC by G Harrison, who said "Come on1 If you don't sing them, everyone will start thinking Suzie Q is a Tina Turner song"
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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #48 on: 09 April, 2019, 12:00:59 am »
A trans friend of mine, very into the, ahem, 'scene' music, was talking about karaoke. I heard her say "I do a great Tina, you know: Suzie Q"

I mentioned CCR and John Fogerty, and got a "Who?"

When I looked it up, TL/DR: CCR was ripped off hugely by management. Fogerty lost the rights to the songs, and refused to perform them. He was egged on at one superstar gig, IIRC by G Harrison, who said "Come on1 If you don't sing them, everyone will start thinking Suzie Q is a Tina Turner song"

Do you think George might have had his tongue in his cheek? It was originally recorded by Dale Hawkins in the 50s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Q_(song)?wprov=sfti1



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Re: "Original" songs that are actually covers
« Reply #49 on: 09 April, 2019, 08:42:05 am »
A trans friend of mine, very into the, ahem, 'scene' music, was talking about karaoke. I heard her say "I do a great Tina, you know: Suzie Q"

I mentioned CCR and John Fogerty, and got a "Who?"

When I looked it up, TL/DR: CCR was ripped off hugely by management. Fogerty lost the rights to the songs, and refused to perform them. He was egged on at one superstar gig, IIRC by G Harrison, who said "Come on1 If you don't sing them, everyone will start thinking Suzie Q is a Tina Turner song"

Do you think George might have had his tongue in his cheek? It was originally recorded by Dale Hawkins in the 50s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Q_(song)?wprov=sfti1

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checked, and the song George referred to was 'Proud Mary"
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