Author Topic: How long is your GP appmt wait?  (Read 7653 times)

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #25 on: 03 October, 2016, 07:39:31 pm »
If your female and a friend straight away - male no chance......
Me – can I make an appointment, I'm sorry there's none until next week, can you come back on Monday OK<goes off to read notice board>
Receptionist – Hello Ann what can I do for you, yes tomorrow will be fine.
Me – can I see the practice manger why....
Speaks to  practice manger appointment in three days time.
Receptionist doesn't work there any more - yes  :thumbsup:

Well there could be any number of reasons, legitimate and not, why Ann got an appointment sooner than you did, but based on what you've described her being female and you being male probably isn't any of them.

You don't even know she's a patient.  She could be coming to deliver some toner, or calibrate the blood pressure monitors, or deliver PREVENT training or anything.

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #26 on: 03 October, 2016, 08:09:53 pm »
Sister, Sprogs otp, started calling her gp surgery this morning around 08-30, not to make an appointment but to check questions on one already booked for tomorrow. she called, in sessions of redialrexialredialredialredial every 15 minutes, or so, and the line was totally engaged from the start right uo to 16-35hrs this afternoon. what do "Reception (Ha!)do all of their working (Hah) hours?
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #27 on: 03 October, 2016, 08:21:46 pm »


Our surgery in Lewisham used to operate the bloody useless call-at-8.30am system. That was absolutely useless. Try explaining that you, oh, might not be available to play phone roulette at 8.30am. Better luck getting past Cerberus carrying a big bag of bones.


My gp, the wonderfully frank, forthright and endowed with a fine range of "Tell it like it is" descriptions , Dr Mechie, has been known to use his excellent descriptive skills on the recent ""£%RT$|6 appointment booking shambles. I often leave an appointment feeling happy and knowin' sum newe werds!
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #28 on: 03 October, 2016, 08:28:42 pm »
Don't think I have a nominated GP, I think it's just down as the practice name.

In the last 2 years (and ~10 appointments between us) myself/wife/daughter have never failed to get an appointment the same day. Both surgeries (they're at one, I'm at another) are 20+ GPs with at least 8 on duty at any one time. Couldn't ask for a better service.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #29 on: 03 October, 2016, 09:12:29 pm »
A week or two to see a specific doctor/nurse in term time.  You can usually see someone within a day or so if it's urgent, but that does require war-dialling at 8am.

I've walked in and booked a 'any GP' in the next 2-5 days usually and only waited more than a week at the start of term and exam season if I want to see Dr C who is popular with the students for being good with mental health. 

I like that appointments can be booked in advance and on the day, I only use the on-the-day for when I need to be seen that day or at worst the next day which they sometimes slot you in for. Then again, maybe text relay is a suitable incentive to break a rule for me.

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #30 on: 04 October, 2016, 02:58:18 am »
I have no idea. I've never actually succeeded in getting an appointment with the practise, let alone 'my' GP. In fact, I'm not sure there is a 'my' GP. I was called in once for a check and accused of having extra-marital sex because my then-wife developed what could-have-been-but-wasn't an STD. The subsequent complaint and demand for a letter of apology (received) may have something to do with the fact that I've had no contact from or with them in the last six years!

Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #31 on: 04 October, 2016, 07:18:06 am »
Have been with the same practice since leeches were used.  Once it was easy to get a same day or next day appointment. 

Now they have an on line system with a 3 week window.  There it's unusual for many slots to be available in that period let alone if you are picky about  which doctor.  Each slot is 10 minutes.   Last time I went, I was waiting about 15 minutes in an empty waiting area for 3 doctors and I never saw another person there!

i think if I went to see them face to face I could get an appointment much more easily.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #32 on: 04 October, 2016, 07:55:07 am »
We can get appointments with "a" GP reasonably easily - 2-3 days.  For "my" GP - who is a very popular guy - it can easily be 3 weeks. And he only works part time too, as he has outside commitments to British Judo, a London rugby club, and also lectures. And there are usually emergency appointments available during the day as well.
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ian

Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #33 on: 04 October, 2016, 08:34:12 am »
One could be forgiven for thinking it's all a bit of an inconsistent mess. Making access to primary healthcare provision difficult is never a good idea.

Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #34 on: 05 October, 2016, 01:24:21 pm »
One could be forgiven for thinking it's all a bit of an inconsistent mess. Making access to primary healthcare provision difficult is never a good idea.
Agreed. And it's probably why A&E departments are misused.
I think there's a number of factors in play that have created the mess described above.
There's a perceived need to 'ration' primary care to the 'really ill', to prevent malingerers turning up at every surgery.
There's a definite need to manage workload across the week, and across the day.
There's a desire to make surgeries appear professional and business-like.
There's a need to justify expenditure on very expensive software.

When I was a lad, I can remember turning up at the GP (within 15 years of the NHS starting) and sitting in the waiting room on a first come, first served basis. I dare say the 'regulars' turned up, but I dare say they got turfed out fairly sharpish; I imagine Monday mornings were busiest, but if you were in a hurry, maybe you just didn't go on a Monday; there were no receptionists (as I recall), just a gruff voice shouting "next", and certainly no computers. It all seemed to work rather well.
If we look at Dentists, Opticians, and primary care in other places - there don't seem to be these inconsistencies, or delays in getting seen : so what is it about GPs?


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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #35 on: 05 October, 2016, 04:34:10 pm »
Could it be anything to do with the fact that GP practices are now effectively run as businesses? I know that if I ran that kind of business there would be a very strong urge to maximise the patient list (I. e.  revenue) and deter patient appointments (I. e. costs).
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #36 on: 05 October, 2016, 05:59:19 pm »
Could it be anything to do with the fact that GP practices are now effectively run as businesses? I know that if I ran that kind of business there would be a very strong urge to maximise the patient list (I. e.  revenue) and deter patient appointments (I. e. costs).
Most GP surgeries are businesses, there are some (I suspect a minority by far) that are owned and run by the NHS, but most are owned and run by the partners who are contracted to the NHS. The partners are self employed doctors who own the building. In effect it's a franchise.


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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #37 on: 05 October, 2016, 06:03:33 pm »
My GP practice was set up as the local university's health centre, & has a dozen doctors (all but one part-time - 3 or 4 days) plus some sort-of-regular locums, six nurses (some part-time), a health care assistant, a phlebotomist, on-site physiotherapy from a visiting therapist, & a local health authority midwife attached. It's officially 'outstanding'.

Never any problem seeing a doctor or nurse in a hurry in my experience. There's one of each tasked with urgent patients each day. Seeing a particular doctor in a hurry is often impossible, though, because it may not be one of their working days.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #38 on: 05 October, 2016, 09:57:57 pm »
The last time I saw a GP was in Belgium. Mr Smith looked him up on t'internet and we turned up. I spent a while trying to work out what the buzzers on the outside of the building meant, and saw him within a minute. I handed over €10 for the 2 minutes of conversation.

Here, they insisted I see 'my' doctor for a medication review. That was a 4 week wait for a Saturday morning appointment, where I waited 20 minutes with no one else entering or leaving the surgery before I was seen. I could have seen her a week or so sooner, but not at a time I could have got to the surgery without taking time off work- which I suppose is my fault for not working in the same town I live in.


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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #39 on: 06 October, 2016, 09:50:38 pm »
No recent data.  I have the benefit of an annual company medical where I can ask general health questions.  They ask me who my GP is and I give the name of my original GP who has, I have discovered left the practice.  However, we now have a system where we call up the practice and then they call you back at their convenience with an appointment.  It's deterred my wife from seeking advice about a problem she should probably consult a GP on. 

But IMHO this is what you can continue to expect from a publicly funded free-to-all health service and an ageing population.  You have to cut corners everywhere to try to pretend that you can make ends meet.  And if anyone suggests change the sacred cow of the NHS will be led out.  I don't have an answer, but the status quo is unsustainable.  When my generation (60s babies) get to our 80s, there'll be 60% more of the most expensive category of NHS Patients than there are now, and no money in the pot to pay for it.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #40 on: 07 October, 2016, 09:09:07 am »
If I use the online booking system, I can usually find an appointment slot within 7 days. If I phone up, 2 weeks.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #41 on: 09 October, 2016, 02:55:25 pm »
If I use the online booking system, I can usually find an appointment slot within 7 days. If I phone up, 2 weeks.

Presumably that is before they answer?  If anything like my lot.
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #42 on: 10 October, 2016, 09:20:45 am »
7-10 days

On the last couple of occasions my GP told me off for not coming to see them sooner. How? when that was the first appointment I could get?

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #43 on: 10 October, 2016, 11:09:24 am »
That's happened to me Oranj. Apparently it was my fault because I can't take a whole day off work for an appointment at 12 noon. The system is useless. My GP used to have a system where you could find appointments 2-3 days later, but now it's on the day for urgent or three weeks plus. Obviously this is better  ::-) I used to value the appointments in 2 days time system as I CAN'T phone up at 8am if I am going to get to work on time, it's just when I am commuting. And if you wait till 9 the appointments are all gone, and anyway, I am in the wrong place!

There is NO mystery as to why people go straight to A&E. And don't get me started on the out of hours service.We are supposed to go to a large village 11 miles away with no public transport to it, and there are frequent stories in the press about people who have got taxis to this surgery on Sunday mornings or whenever (on the advice of 111) and found it to be closed. If I have to get a taxi to access out of hours healthcare it will be to A&E, not to a GP surgery that might not be open when it's meant to be!
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #44 on: 12 October, 2016, 09:01:56 pm »
3 or 4 days to see a random GP.  I don't mind - the last time I had a GP who was my "regular" GP he advised me to just avoid cycling because my ribs hurt! The phlebotomist on the other hand - 3 weeks for a random appointment in the middle of the day, longer if you want something early in the morning so you don't have to take half a day off work! Apparently at my parents practise you can get a ticket to go to the drop-in place in their local small hospital, and then you just wait in line and get one straight away. Given the JR is about 2 stones throw from my GP, that would be so much easier if they did it here...
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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #45 on: 15 October, 2016, 09:55:47 am »
Rang our surgery for a non-urgent appointment on Monday 3rd October at 0830.  Met a very keen trainee GP at 1000 to discuss a couple of moles on my back.  Within a couple of minutes he offered a referral to the local hospital.

They rang next morning with an appointment for 3 days later, which they subsequently cancelled to Tuesday 11th.  Arrived at hospital 15 minutes ahead of appointment time and was seen by consultant within 5 minutes.  After a pat on the head and a reassurance I was on the way home.

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #46 on: 02 November, 2016, 10:10:57 am »
Turned up at 8.45 for the open surgery. Very few sick people. Took 30 minutes. Maybe they all died off or went to A&E. Stereotypically grumpy receptionists.

Anyway, my wife is always complaining that they have no female doctors. So, I, well, just assumed.

Dr Watson (I had a Sherlock joke racked up and ready to go) turned out to be a lady. We used to have this annoying training guy on the mothership whose hackneyed catch-phrase was 'never assume, it might make an ass out of you and me'. I think someone ejected him out of the airlock.

I've nothing against women in general and I'm generally enthusiastic about dropping my trousers in front of them (my wife might say too enthusiastic, but hey, that's the erotic magic of the M&S lingerie department). But when it's a young and female GP and she's going to handling me in a professional capacity.

I bottled it. I'm so not a grown-up. My wife is displaying a lack of sympathy for my embarrassment for some reason.

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #47 on: 02 November, 2016, 11:55:56 am »
It is equally embarrassing to be a young female medic when John Thomas springs to life...

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Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #48 on: 02 November, 2016, 12:12:13 pm »
I wasn't going to take that chance. That region is semi-autonomous and the natives generally revolting.

Re: How long is your GP appmt wait?
« Reply #49 on: 02 November, 2016, 12:46:12 pm »
That region is semi-erogenous and the natives generally revolting.
That's how I read it...  :thumbsup:

(In one respect,) we are truly, truly blessed in Uttoxeter - I've never failed to get a same-day (or, if I try in the evening, next-day) appointment through our practice's online booking system.