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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #25 on: 11 February, 2009, 05:06:17 pm »
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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #26 on: 11 February, 2009, 05:07:44 pm »
Thoughts with the Girl's freinds and Family.

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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #27 on: 11 February, 2009, 05:08:02 pm »

Cycle lanes and ASLs encourage cyclists to stay close t the kerb. For a novice this "feels" safer, but it's not and it encourages drivers to believe that cyclists using the lane to manage the traffic are deliberately obstructing them out of bloody mindedness.

Alex, That deserves to be quoted again and again.

Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #28 on: 12 February, 2009, 10:13:30 am »
For anyone that might be interested, there will be a memorial ride on the 7th of March, following her route to work and stopping at the site of the accident to place a flower.
If you are interested, please go to the LFG&SS forum and post your name into this thread: Eilidh memorial ride March 7th 2009 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed
There are already around 150 riders registered.
I did not know this rider, but I still feel this is something I should do and something I want to do.

Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #29 on: 12 February, 2009, 03:33:30 pm »
Why do we always say "the cyclist went up the inside of the lorry"

Look at the footage of the lady killed by the Cemex lorry when she was riding along London Wall.
She was AHEAD of the lorry. The driver drove along, overtook her, then turned left over the top of her.
I'll repeat that - it is yet more victim blaming and misinformation. In this case the lady was not waiting at lights, she did not filter up the left side of a stationary lorry. Some murderous clown drove past her and killed her as she cycled along.

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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #30 on: 12 February, 2009, 03:40:54 pm »
Why do we always say "the cyclist went up the inside of the lorry"

Look at the footage of the lady killed by the Cemex lorry when she was riding along London Wall.
She was AHEAD of the lorry. The driver drove along, overtook her, then turned left over the top of her.
I'll repeat that - it is yet more victim blaming and misinformation. In this case the lady was not waiting at lights, she did not filter up the left side of a stationary lorry. Some murderous clown drove past her and killed her as she cycled along.

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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #31 on: 12 February, 2009, 03:56:50 pm »
We don't always say it.  Calm down, dear.
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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #32 on: 12 February, 2009, 04:22:24 pm »
Do you have a linky?

Sorry, no. I'm referring to some footage which I saw on a TV programme a good few weeks ago, which had an interview with her mother, who bought shares in Cemex so she could protest at their AGM etc.
The TV footage clearly shows the lorry passing her on London Wall.

Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #33 on: 12 February, 2009, 04:32:13 pm »
For anyone that might be interested, there will be a memorial ride on the 7th of March, following her route to work and stopping at the site of the accident to place a flower.
If you are interested, please go to the LFG&SS forum and post your name into this thread: Eilidh memorial ride March 7th 2009 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed
There are already around 150 riders registered.
I did not know this rider, but I still feel this is something I should do and something I want to do.

If you go to Alexb's link, it is telling to see how the number of names for the memorial ride has grown in a short space of time.

I didn't know Eilidh, don't ride fixed and am not into what I can only describe as recreational grieving. (Not that I think that is happening here, for one moment).

But something about this sad event is compelling me to join the memorial ride on March 7th.

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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #34 on: 12 February, 2009, 06:13:42 pm »
I'm going to apologise in advance for the length of these post.

I will attend this ride.  I have been becoming more and more upset at these cyclist deaths and I get the feeling we're all becoming a little complacent, almost like there's an acceptable level of fatalities,  as long as it's not us or someone dear to us, the way most of society deals with the annual loss of life on the roads generally (about 3,00 a year isn't it).  Well, it isn't acceptable, especially when there are things that can be done to minimise the risk these big vehicles pose to us on the streets, regardless of what mistakes we might make on the road. 

I was tired today when I left work.  An early start at 7, preparing for a big whole school special assembly I was delivering, followed by a day of teaching a class of lively ten year olds towards the end of a long busy half term and then delivering a training course leaves you pretty whacked.  I should probably have got the bus home. Or had a strong coffee.  But I didn't.  Sometimes, even the most experienced of us make mistakes when we're tired.
I must have switched off for a moment on the way home.  Prior to riding along a fairly quiet road which leads to Brockley Cross Roundabout I was as alert as usual heading along Old Kent Rd, up New Cross Rd, getting in the right position to turn right onto the one way system.  Then once past the traffic lights, the road gets a bit quiet.  My tired brain must have thought Phew!Relax. Switch to automatic pilot. The next thing I remember is some robotic female voice saying over and over again something like "This vehicle is turning left."  I was suddenly fully alert again, hands on the brakes just in time to stop myself heading up the inside of a large cement lorry turning left on to the roundabout. I would have been squished.  I consider myself a careful, competent, experienced rider.  But today I made a mistake.  If the company that owned that vehicle had not taken some responsibility for the danger their vehicles can pose, I may not be writing this now and some of you would be shaking your heads, tut tutting about yet another woman cyclist going up the inside of a large vehicle.  What did she expect?  What we should all expect and be shouting for is for all lorries to have every kind of safety device available that minimises the threat they pose to any cyclist.  The fact that this one did today may have saved my life.

We don't always say it.  Calm down, dear.

No don't.  Stay angry.   And do something about it.


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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #35 on: 12 February, 2009, 06:31:20 pm »
Jane, That was a very moving post. That is exactly the sort of thing Rich should be taking to his bosses. The price for a momentary lapse of concentration is not three points on your license, it shouldn't be death but it can be.

I've been there too - travelling on automatic pilot when tired. The thing is, this is soo cheap to implement, there really isn't any excuse to not push this forwards.

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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #36 on: 12 February, 2009, 07:59:26 pm »
We don't always say it.  Calm down, dear.

You might not, but that's because you're sensible.  There are however many cyclists and others who do, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels the need to repeat what Scum said.
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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #37 on: 12 February, 2009, 08:19:00 pm »
Great post Jane.



It's just incredibly sad reading that original LFG thread: it still really hits me when the woman (Eilidh)'s BF comes on to give that terrible news.  :(

The girl I share an office with is considering beginning a cycle commute. She's a very inexperienced cyclist. I have been being encouraging; I'm uncertain sometimes.

 

Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #38 on: 12 February, 2009, 08:40:37 pm »
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The girl I share an office with is considering beginning a cycle commute. She's a very inexperienced cyclist. I have been being encouraging; I'm uncertain sometimes.

Encouraging cyclists is part of our responsibility in this, and reclaiming the streets and eventually achieving a safer cycling conditions for us all.

However I am sure that you will you will find the time to escort your friend on the first few trips to help encourage some good road skills.  (or find a fellow forum member who is traveling in that direction).

I too plan to attend the ride, even though I too did not know Elidh, I somehow feel it is the right things for us as the community to do.
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Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #39 on: 12 February, 2009, 10:54:23 pm »
However I am sure that you will you will find the time to escort your friend on the first few trips to help encourage some good road skills

She is going to try the ride out on a weekend to begin with; I've offered to go along. I may offer more strongly...

Re: Sad news from FGSS forum - rider killed in Notting Hill
« Reply #40 on: 13 February, 2009, 08:09:30 am »
I'm uncertain sometimes.

Don't be, the benefits to her outweigh the risks considerably.  And with your help and encouragement, I'm sure her safety will be well taken care of.

What about getting her to contact her local borough for free/cheap cycling lessons?  That and getting her to read Cyclecraft will help her loads, IMO.
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