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Any Mycologists About?
« on: 17 April, 2014, 03:57:09 pm »
I'd like to be really certain that these funghi I've found in my garden really are morels:



Are there any specialist fora, or have we got any mycologists on here?

Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #1 on: 17 April, 2014, 04:12:07 pm »
No they're not morels, send them to me and I'll subject them to experiment and let you know.

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ETA ... I won't be mean http://www.michiganmorels.com/morels2.shtml

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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #2 on: 17 April, 2014, 04:14:00 pm »
Thoste are cat turds partially dried out. Delicious sliced into scrambled egg.
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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #3 on: 17 April, 2014, 05:38:29 pm »
As someone licensed to practice botany (we make jokes about mycologists) I can tell you those are alien space pods.

But they'll probably taste like morels. Alien space pods usually do.

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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #4 on: 17 April, 2014, 05:41:25 pm »
You surely aren't going to eat that?

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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #5 on: 17 April, 2014, 05:42:32 pm »
Well, the closest thing that looks a bit like that is Gyromitra esculenta, which despite the "esculenta" is "potentially fatal if eaten raw".  Cooked they can be eaten, but just once in 7 days or so because they temporarily knock out production of an enzyme whereof you have sufficient stock for a week, but if you eat them again before your liver kicks in again you're in for trouble.  If you're already liverly challenged, so to speak, steer clear. In fact, steer clear anyway because I remember reading somewhere that they also concentrate mercury.

I'd say you have morels, but I've never found any (:'() so I can't confirm it.

Gawd!  In the garden. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

BTW, quite a few medicines, e.g. metformin, put a certain load on the liver that can reduce its capability to handle certain foods. I'm on the stuff, and I once had a very nasty couple of days after eating a chunk of durian.
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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #6 on: 18 April, 2014, 05:44:11 pm »
Thanks for the comments everyone.

I've now dried these by putting them in a very, very cool oven (60 deg C) for 8 hours; they've shrivelled impressively, and smelled gorgeous while drying out.

As regards differentiation from gyromitra esculenta, the following is from the Wikipedia entry on morels:

"The key differentiating features of false morels in comparison to morels include:[27]

    * The false morels can be told apart from the true morels by careful study of the cap, which is often "wrinkled" or "brainy", rather than honeycomb or net-like. Gyromitra esculenta has a cap that is generally darker and larger than the true morels (Morchella sp.).
    * The caps of early morels (Verpa sp.) are attached only at the apex (top) of the cap, unlike true morels which have caps that are attached at or near the bottom. The easiest way to tell the false from the true variety, is to simply look inside the stem.
    * False morels contain a cotton-ball looking substance inside their stem while true morels are hollow inside.
    * The caps of the false morel can be easily twisted in comparison to the normal morel.
    * False morels are often a brown, reddish color."

The hollow central stem certainly seems to indicate that these are morels, but I'd still like an expert to give a definitive verdict.  I'll have to Startpage for specialist fora (flora fora!).

Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #7 on: 18 April, 2014, 05:44:48 pm »
You surely aren't going to eat that?

I certainly will if they're true morels! :thumbsup:

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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #8 on: 20 April, 2014, 12:45:19 am »
Are they good for the bowels?
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Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #9 on: 20 April, 2014, 08:37:52 pm »

The hollow central stem certainly seems to indicate that these are morels, but I'd still like an expert to give a definitive verdict.  I'll have to Startpage for specialist fora (flora fora!).

Bad boy. Fungi aren't plants. Your flora and your fauna are quite sniffy about letting fungi in. Mostly because all that complicated business about life-cycles that we had to learn. Serves them right for being so complicated. Asexual chlamydospores indeed.

Contrary to popular belief most things we eat are toxic to a degree. Mushroom probably should be toxic, though for some reason although I despise their generic cooked sliminess, I do quite like them raw in salads and stuff.

On the plus side, without fungi we wouldn't have bread or beer, and coffee and chocolate would be yuck. Plus most of the plants in the world wouldn't grow and we'd have never evolved. Of course, we should balance that equation with tofu and athlete's foot.

Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #10 on: 21 April, 2014, 06:26:04 pm »
I stand suitably corrected! :-\

ian

Re: Any Mycologists About?
« Reply #11 on: 22 April, 2014, 10:00:38 am »
I'll correct myself by saying that tofu isn't usually fermented. But when it is, be scared. Stinky tofu is the traditional Chinese trial-by-food for their western guests. That and the soup with whole frogs in it. At least they're not still swimming.