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Title: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 27 January, 2016, 09:16:20 pm
Anyone else doing it?   We are looking forward to it as we gets lots of birds in the garden so hoping for a good showing!
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Crumbling Nick on 29 January, 2016, 10:11:52 pm
Thanks for the heads up. RSPB (I'm still a member, despite some concerns about RSPCA-style diseases of governance) may have sent me a form, but it may have been shredded by now because it looked too much like a begging letter.

Sadly many of the birds around/in our garden seem to be very good at avoiding it over the Birdwatch weekend. Last year I didn't see anything apart from woodpigeons, magpies & the odd jackdaw. We usually see (hear) lots of titmice, nuthatches, dunnocks, blackbirds, robins, wrens, jays, song thrushes, bullfinches, & possibly goldfinches. We have even had during the last fortnight a grey heron researching our tiny pond, a buzzard flying over & a raven (or a crow with a very deep voice). It's difficult, since the disappearance of house sparrows, starlings, greenfinches & chaffinches troubles me.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 30 January, 2016, 10:35:00 am
Scores on the doors:

Chaffinch3
Blue tit2
Blackbird2
Robin2
Goldfinch14
Feral pigeon2
House sparrow1
Dunnock2
Carrion crow1
Herring gull2
Jackdaw2
Magpie2

No great tits, coal tits or greenfinches.

1 cat, no squirrels.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Crumbling Nick on 31 January, 2016, 12:51:57 am
My total for the hour 1100-1200 today was 3 wood pigeons. One of those was on our ash tree, but on a branch on our neighbour's side of the boundary. There were one or two jackdaws visible on the tops of cypressus/chamaecyparis trees in more distant gardens. A couple of blue tits landed in the flowering cherry next door, which is usually a popular feeding site. They left quickly. Birds flying over were one unidentified small bird, a couple of herring gulls and a few woodpigeons.

That is utterly atypical of what I see in the back garden. For 44 minutes there were no birds in our garden. There was a robin singing in the distance & a possible song thrush competing with the incessant traffic noise from about 500m away.

During the whole hour there was not a single tree rat in our garden. That looks less than coincidental.

Last year, I gave up. Today, I realised that my thoroughly negative observations are a crucial part of the Birdwatch, with an implication that the numbers may well be biaised because others will have been put off because they didn't see "lots of birds" (YACF is a nice illustration of a subtle competiveness about such things) & didn't bother to record their results. It's no more than an anecdote, but it might be a trend.

This year, helped by by Aidans post, I've realised I must record my observations. Tonight the RSPB website has defeated me. I've spent enough of my working life in IT to recognise a cock-up...

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 31 January, 2016, 06:54:18 am
We are doing our hour this afternoon.  Mrs Aidans been on nights so waiting until after she's had a snooze this morning. Very little in the garden yesterday :-( but the weather was pretty awful.   Not looked at the website return form yet, but might just do now!  there's alwaysthe option of a paper return. :hand:
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CAMRAMan on 31 January, 2016, 07:46:37 am
I'm due to do mine once the heating kicks in. Crumbling Nick, we're not that far from each other, so maybe it's the same raven flying over? Starling and sparrows are visitors, though less frequent than the green and goldfinches. Recently that's down to sunflower hearts being on offer rather than meal worms, which the starlings guzzle down. I have no affiliation with them, but GW Titmus flog 30Kgs of sunflower hearts for £30 delivered. I'm well into the second 15Kg bag this winter.

Update from a rainy Warwick at 5-6C:

Greenfinches 5
Goldfinches   5
Chaffinch      1 (first sighting, yay!)
Magpie         1
Great tit       2
Robin           1
Blackbird      3
Collared
Dove            1
Wood
pigeon          2

Much better than last year's measly total.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 31 January, 2016, 09:00:24 am
Scores on the doors:

Chaffinch3
Blue tit2
Blackbird2
Robin2
Goldfinch14
Feral pigeon2
House sparrow1
Dunnock2
Carrion crow1
Herring gull2
Jackdaw2
Magpie2

No great tits, coal tits or greenfinches.

1 cat, no squirrels.

Just a quick point, the idea is to record the highest number of any species you can see at one time, not individual sightings.  If thats what youve done then youve a serious Goldfinch infestation ;D
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 31 January, 2016, 11:52:11 am
That was the highest number seen at one time.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 31 January, 2016, 12:10:44 pm
Bloomin eck :thumbsup: thats a lot of Goldfinches!


Ive been looking out this morning and seen bugger all :'(  I think the birds are playing awkward!  starting at 2.00pm with our hour so hope it gets busier
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Wombat on 31 January, 2016, 12:26:21 pm
We were prepared to do it, and went to the RSPB website, and got the distinct impression its not birds they are trying to gather maximum information about, its us.  I'm more than happy to do bird research, but I fail to see why they need all that information about me.  Fuck off, RSPB.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 31 January, 2016, 03:16:53 pm
Im a member so they already have all off my details.
our tally was a bit disappointing , we normally see lots more than we did.

ended up with
6 woodpigeons
2 blackbirds
2 dunnocks
4 Longtailed tits
a couple of crows
and a Robin


Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CAMRAMan on 31 January, 2016, 03:36:09 pm
Yes, Crumbling Nick, ITYP about the competitiveness in these things. I was disappointed last year when I saw almost no birds, but still submitted my results, because, as you rightly point out, low number submissions are as useful in painting the overall picture as results like my rather 'better' observations today.

I have made the garden more bird friendly over the last couple of years. The elder has grown well since being pruned and gives ample perching near the feeders; the privet hedge is now that rather than a row of saplings and the laurel tree provides good roosting. We have few cats nearby and I am quick to discourage them should they appear. I would dearly like to provide more fodder for the ground feeding birds, but the squirrels are quick to take advantage. Having said that, the finches are such messy feeders that there is always plenty of spilled seed for the blackbirds and robin.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: perpetual dan on 31 January, 2016, 07:43:37 pm
I also saw far fewer birds today than last year, or what I think of as usual. I can imagine two contributing factors, that I'm assuming that the RSPB can adjust for in their analysis: a) crappy wet day, b) failure to bait the feeders just prior to watching on account of a.

However we still got a pair each of robins, blackbirds, and magpies; half a dozen sparrows, a great tit (usually there's a flock of tits, wonder where they are?).
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 27 January, 2017, 06:20:00 pm
It's the 2017 version this weekend.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 28 January, 2017, 06:05:13 am
It's the 2017 version this weekend.

We are doing it again :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2017, 11:22:52 am
2017 count from the Igloo:

Chaffinch2
Blue tit2
Blackbird2
Robin2
Goldfinch25
Great tit2
House sparrow1
Dunnock1
Carrion crow1
Herring gull2
Jackdaw1
Magpie1
Coal tit1
Collared dove1
Redwing1

Also heard waxwings, but didn't see them. No feral pigeons at all during the hour  :o


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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 28 January, 2017, 12:39:10 pm
2017 count from the Igloo:


Goldfinch25


Are you breeding them or something?  ;D
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2017, 12:59:53 pm
Apparently  :)
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 28 January, 2017, 01:09:00 pm
Seriously though, what food do you put out that attracts them in such numbers?   
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2017, 01:33:53 pm
They eat sunflower hearts. They used to eat niger, but they haven't touched that for ages so we've stopped putting that out.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: fuaran on 28 January, 2017, 11:52:34 pm
Today's count:

10 Collared-Dove
1 Great Spotted Woodpecker
2 Jackdaw
3 Coal Tit
4 Blue Tit
2 Great Tit
2 Robin
4 Blackbird
2 Dunnock
2 Yellowhammer
7 Chaffinch
2 Greenfinch
8 House Sparrow

A grey day, with a bit of drizzle, so maybe a bit quiet.
Still most of the usual stuff, though I rarely get that many collared doves at once. And there were a few long-tailed tits earlier in the morning, but they disappeared before the count.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: djmc on 31 January, 2017, 02:23:17 pm
We do a similar count here in France for the LPO (league for the protection of birds).
Greenfinch 8
Chaffinch 23
sparrow 4
bluetit 4
jackdaw 1
magpie 1
robin 1
green woodpecker 1
collared dove 4
blackheaded gulls 4
blackbird 1

Not on Sunday but during the same week I saw 4 crows, several woodpigeons and a jay. Thrushes are fairly common. Both Saturday and Sunday were wet and windy and this seems to affect the avian population. We have a large garden not all of it visible from the window I was sitting at, and we are surrounded by trees. One of our cats thinks it is his function in life to reduce the birdlife in the garden.

We do quite well for birds here. We are quite near the river Odet so we get gulls in the garden. On the river herons, egrets and cormorants may be seen. In winter there are avocets. Further down the river bone may see spoonbills and there is a colony of sacred ibises which escaped from a zoo and are still about. Cattle egrets may also be found. All this without going very far, we are really very lucky.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 23 January, 2018, 02:24:06 pm
It's the 2018 edition this weekend: https://www.rspb.org.uk/get-involved/activities/birdwatch/
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CAMRAMan on 28 January, 2018, 10:21:06 am
Disappointing tally today. 1 (maybe 2 ) blackbird, a goldfinch (usually get lots), a dunnock, 2 robins and a scrawny wood pigeon. Mind you, I haven't been as regular with topping up the feeders this winter as I was last year.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2018, 01:05:36 pm
That was a bit different from previous years!

2018 count from the Igloo:

Chaffinch1
Blue tit2
Blackbird1
Robin1
Goldfinch1  :o
Long-tailed tit4  :)
House sparrow7
Dunnock2
Carrion crow1
Herring gull1
Jackdaw3
Magpie2
Coal tit1
Great spotted woodpecker1  :)
Redwing3
Feral pigeon3

I've only ever seen a GSW once before in this garden and never seen long-tailed tits here before today  :)

I was expecting the number of goldfinches to be lower because the bird seed consumption seems to be very low at the moment. I thought I'd see more than one , though.

Some photies here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmemkExp
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 28 January, 2018, 02:04:05 pm
We’ve just been out for lunch , so starting our hour at 2:30.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Clare on 28 January, 2018, 03:56:58 pm
5 sparrers and a collared dove.

That was an hour well spent.

 :-\
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Aidan on 28 January, 2018, 05:49:10 pm
Ours was a pheasant and two wood pigeons , might have had something to do with the 25mph winds but none of the many normal birds were showing themselves  :(
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 25 January, 2019, 08:25:25 pm
2019 edition this weekend.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 26 January, 2019, 01:17:19 pm
2019 scores.

Chaffinch3
Blue tit4
Blackbird1
Robin1
Goldfinch16
House sparrow6
Carrion crow2
Herring gull1
Magpie1
Coal tit1
Great spotted woodpecker1  :) 2nd year in a row!
Feral pigeon6
Wood pigeon1

No dunnocks  ???

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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 26 January, 2019, 04:24:10 pm
I had a go at this just now.
Something that's not at all clear from the RSPB website is what birds you're supposed to count. Is it just the ones that are on the ground or perched in your garden or do you count ones that are flying around that you can see and identify further afield. In my garden that's a huge difference. Anyone got a clue?
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 26 January, 2019, 04:26:12 pm
Not the ones flying around. Just the ones which are in your garden, as you say on the ground or perched.

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 26 January, 2019, 04:37:36 pm
Not the ones flying around. Just the ones which are in your garden, as you say on the ground or perched.
Ta. Shame they couldn't mention that.
Zero then, as opposed to a few hundred.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 26 January, 2019, 04:43:43 pm
I can't help thinking that if it's not clear then others will misunderstand and thus render their results somewhat worthless.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 26 January, 2019, 04:46:24 pm
It used to be clear. Have to confess I've not looked at the instructions for years, but it always was 'in the garden' and explicitly not 'flying over'.

ETA
I've just checked the website as well and you're right that it doesn't mention what counts. Sigh.

I can't help thinking that if it's not clear then others will misunderstand and thus render their results somewhat worthless.

I suspect the results are a bit rough and ready anyway. Our local RSPB group used to do a similar exercise, but you kept a tally over a whole weekend and just ticked species with no record of the numbers. I got some people at work to join in and their responses were, in some cases, interesting. As in, if you did see what you thought you saw there would be a queue of twitchers all up your garden path!
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 26 January, 2019, 04:53:09 pm
It says:
Quote
Count the maximum number of each species you see at any one time. For example, if you see a group of three house sparrows together and later another two, and after that another one, the number to submit is three. That way, it’s less likely you’ll double-count the same birds.
[edit] I see we crossed.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: fuaran on 26 January, 2019, 06:44:30 pm
But what if you see 3 male sparrows, then later see 3 female sparrows? You clearly have at least 6 individual sparrows in the garden.

Though yes, it has to be fairly simple anyway, to allow the general public to take part. If you want to do more detailed surveys, you can send your results to other places. eg BTO or Ebird. They have options to include flybys etc.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 26 January, 2019, 06:52:40 pm
We count the obviously different genders separately - not sure I can tell with sparrows, but blackbirds are easy for instance.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 27 January, 2019, 11:07:42 am
I emailed them and they replied:
Quote
Thanks for your email. Sorry it wasn't clear from the website - the request is to only count birds that land in your garden or park, not those flying over. This helps with bird identification as well as providing a greater level of accuracy with counting.

Thanks for raising this. I've taken note to make this clearer on our website in future.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 27 January, 2019, 12:44:14 pm
I emailed them and they replied:
Quote
Thanks for your email. Sorry it wasn't clear from the website - the request is to only count birds that land in your garden or park, not those flying over. This helps with bird identification as well as providing a greater level of accuracy with counting.

Thanks for raising this. I've taken note to make this clearer on our website in future.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 27 January, 2019, 01:05:12 pm
Results entered. The website appears to be creaking a bit!
The 'best' spot, which was by MrsC, not me (we watch from two different rooms to cover as much of the garden as we can as it's an awkward shape), was a fieldfare on the garage roof.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 27 January, 2019, 11:01:17 pm
A bit of crappy charty stuff for teh lolz: http://www.pinniped.plus.com/birdwatch/index.htm
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Clare on 27 January, 2019, 11:35:01 pm
8 sparrers, 7 pigeons.

I’m beginning to see a theme here.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: rafletcher on 30 January, 2019, 10:38:38 am
Seeing as how we have a feeder on the back patio, and it was a cold day Monday, we did quite well with the usual suspects, tho some of the rarer visitors were missing - no wrens or greenfinches. And surprisingly no ring-necked doves or magpies. But we had hedge and house sparrows, blackbirds, starlings, great spotted woodpecker, blue, great and long-tailed tits, chaffinches, blackcaps (new this year) goldfinches, robins, wood pigeons, pied wagtails, and a thrush (unusual in our small garden).
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Canardly on 21 April, 2019, 02:45:24 pm
Following on from the above, tits and long tailed tits noticeable by their absence in our gardens this year.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: perpetual dan on 21 April, 2019, 09:17:51 pm
We’ve got the first long tailed tits I’ve seen in our garden in 8 years this year. They’re very friendly, and come and tap the window. Blue tits are a bit thin on the ground for a couple of years though.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 24 April, 2019, 05:16:41 pm
A yellowhamer and a greenfinch yesterday on our feeders. Thats the first yellowhamer we have had though you quite often see them in the field hedges locally. The first greenfinch for a couple of years since disease decimated their population.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Clare on 26 January, 2020, 01:36:47 pm
We doubled our highest species count this year:

7 spadgers
5 winged rats feral pigeons
1 blackbird
1 collared dove

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 26 January, 2020, 06:55:53 pm
2020 scores.

Blue tit1
Blackbird2
Robin3
Goldfinch11
House sparrow7
Carrion crow1
Herring gull2
Magpie1
Coal tit2
Feral pigeon2
Wood pigeon2
Great tit1
Starling11 (!)
Jackdaw5
Dunnock1

No chaffinches!

There were some redwings in a neighbour's garden today but they didn't land in my patch :(

The light was pretty poor for photos this year, but this robin kept an eye on me for the whole hour and came quite close.

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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 30 January, 2021, 02:09:42 pm
2021 scores.

Blue tit2
Blackbird1
Robin2
Goldfinch2
House sparrow1
Herring gull2
Magpie1
Coal tit3
Feral pigeon1
Wood pigeon3
Starling2
Dunnock1
Blackcap1
Chaffinch2

Low numbers of individuals this year. Blackcap is a new species for us  :thumbsup:

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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 31 January, 2021, 11:01:43 am
2 robins.
2 more than last year then.
The birds round here don't like being counted.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: PaulF on 31 January, 2021, 11:18:29 am
2 robins.
2 more than last year then.
The birds round here don't like being counted.

Well we have much greater biodiversity round here. I saw a robin and a blackbird. 5 minutes before I’d got sorted there were  various tits, sparrows and a pigeon.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Snakehips on 31 January, 2021, 12:13:18 pm
I did this yesterday with some strange results. The almost ever present Great Tit and flock of Parakeets stayed away so I couldn't count them, though they were back in fine vocal form first thing this morning. In their place we had six Long Tailed Tits, a rarity, and a male Great Spotted Woodpecker, only seen once before in about 25 years.
I hope somebody does something useful with this information.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 31 January, 2021, 01:14:15 pm
2 robins.
2 more than last year then.
The birds round here don't like being counted.

Well we have much greater biodiversity round here. I saw a robin and a blackbird. 5 minutes before I’d got sorted there were  various tits, sparrows and a pigeon.
We've got plenty here normally. Just not on Birdwatch day.  :(
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 01 February, 2021, 08:42:42 am
6 Jackdaws
4 Wood pigeons
4 Collard doves
7 House sparrows
2 Tree sparrows
1 Dunnock
4 Blue tits
1 Great tit
1 Greenfinch
2 Goldfinches
2 Chaffinches
2 Robins
4 Blackbirds
1 Thrush

A higher number of jackdaws than usual (normal only two) but a much lower number of sparrows, I have counted 17 on the feeders at once before.
Usually there are several dunnocks skulking around as well but in the hour we watched non until one turned up at the last minute.
I expected more goldfinches and chaffinches as well but they were being shy.

Non of the less common visitors showed up today. The cock pheasant who comes about twice a week was elsewhere as were the long tailed tits, coal tits, greater spotted woodpecker, nuthatch, wrens and sparrow hawk. Mind you if the sparrow hawk had shown up there wouldn't have been much else to count as everything else hid.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Flite on 01 February, 2021, 09:40:47 pm
Hmm - we never see as many birds as usual when it is BGB time.
I'm developing a theory that the publicity build up in the couple of weeks beforehand causes more folks to put out food in more gardens. Certainly the village school always does. As the village is more sheltered than our garden, I suspect the birds spend more time hanging around there than usual.  And they come back to us when the easier food runs out because other gardeners don't maintain the supply.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 03 February, 2021, 09:13:47 am
You may have a point. In the space of 5 minutes in the rain this morning I saw:
2 Robins
2 Blue tits
1 Blackbird
6 Long tailed tits
2 Dunnocks
1 House sparrow

It's also pretty unusual for there to be no magpies or wood pigeons about. Had a heron strutting about on the grass a couple of weeks ago - that's fairly unusual.

<edit> Update. Magpies are back.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 03 February, 2021, 10:35:13 am
Yes, we usually get great tits, collared doves, crows, great spotted woodpeckers and jackdaws which were missing from my list. There have been fieldfares and redwings lurking about too.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Flite on 03 February, 2021, 02:13:56 pm
And today the Black Grouse turn up. I swear they know when its BGB
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: drossall on 03 February, 2021, 07:28:30 pm
Bit of a washout here. No birds turned up - well, one pigeon I think, but that ignored the food we'd put out and ate berries off the ivy instead. Every now and then we find a neighbouring place that seems to have a whole flock, but in general bird activity seems quite low.

Given that our food is not selling, my wife is suggesting offering them discount vouchers.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2022, 12:00:41 am
The 2022 version starts tomorrow: https://www.rspb.org.uk/get-involved/activities/birdwatch/

I expect very depleted counts here at the new Igloo. Not many birds have found our feeders yet  :(
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 29 January, 2022, 09:32:54 am
CET Towers reports

4 x Wood Pigeon
1 x Collared Dove
3 x Magpie

All the tits and sparrows head to next door's birdfeeder.  We don't have smaller ground feeding birds because the neighbour has c&ts.  We are getting less birds this year because the Norway Maple had its once in 5 years visit from the tree surgeons before Christmas and the Daphne Odora that grew next to the waterfall where the bird drink died and so there is less cover.

We haven't seen collared doves for years, but they have been around again this winter.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Flite on 29 January, 2022, 02:06:12 pm
Storm Malik means our birds are slulking. Will try tomorrow
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Clare on 29 January, 2022, 03:33:13 pm
2 collared doves
2 wood pigeons
2 blackbirds
1 robin
1 magpie
1 starling
1 dunnock
4 spadgers

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Nuncio on 30 January, 2022, 11:25:17 am
Had to look up spadgers.

4 spadgers
1 robin
1 blackbird
1 blue tit
9 starlings (could have been 10 - there was a confusion of pecking and flapping and general raucousness)
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 30 January, 2022, 11:32:30 am
2022 scores. Better than I expected

Blue tit1
Blackbird2
Robin2
House sparrow2
Magpie1
Feral pigeon6
Wood pigeon2
Chaffinch2
Greenfinch1
Jackdaw2
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 30 January, 2022, 04:16:16 pm
Better than last year.
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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Wowbagger on 30 January, 2022, 09:04:47 pm
I was going to have a go at this this morning, but after looking out of the window I realised that I wouldn't be able to tolerate it. It's a south-facing patio door whose double-glazing has "blown" and it's very smeary. The sun was shining brightly on it, making it very difficult to see through, and the south end of the garden was in deep shadow where the garage blocked the sun. So I abandoned the attempt and had a wander round the park instead.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 30 January, 2022, 09:57:48 pm
Why not sit in the shadowy end of the garden?
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 31 January, 2022, 07:56:19 am
Not bad. No idea where the rest of our blackbirds went, usually there are six upwards. The woodpecker was a no show as every year and the starlings obviously were having a party somewhere else as only two showed up rather than the usual large gang.

Dunnock               2
Robin                    2
Blackbird              2
Long Tailed Tit      2
Great Tit               1
Coal Tit                 1
Blue Tit                5
Sparrow               11
Wood Pigeon       3
Collard Dove         2
Goldfinch              5
Chaffinch              2
Jackdaw               4
Starling                 2
Pheasant              1
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Flite on 31 January, 2022, 08:07:03 am
Starting the clear up between Storms Malik and Corrie meant I just haven't had an hour to spare.
Still lots to do after Arwen....
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Nuncio on 31 January, 2022, 08:49:52 am
I'm surprised by the number of goldfinch being reported here, but that's only because I have only seen one at our feeders over the past couple of years (and my birdy colleague hasn't ever seen one in his garden), so possibly a UK distribution thing. On the other hand, I'm also surprised that no nuthatches have been reported - not just this year but since the start of the thread.

eta: just checking last year's results and goldfinches were at #7 in England and #10 in Wales and Scotland.

eta#2: I've just found the more detailed breakdown from last year here https://www.rspb.org.uk/get-involved/activities/birdwatch/results/ (https://www.rspb.org.uk/get-involved/activities/birdwatch/results/) and have answered my own question. There's a link to a spreadsheet which shows these as the top-most UK counties (by percentage of gardens) where nuthatches were reported:

Powys
Carmarthenshire
Ceredigion
Scottish Borders
Caerphilly
Neath Port Talbot
Gwynedd
Dumfries and Galloway
Torfaen
Monmouthshire
Denbighshire
Rhondda, Cynon, Taff
Merthyr Tydfil

eta#3 (sorry): And for goldfinches, my county - Neath Port Talbot - is 6th from bottom of the 112 counties. I'm supposed to be working, but I can see that's going to be difficult now I've found that spreadsheet.

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 31 January, 2022, 09:10:07 am
We (on the Yorkshire Wolds) get nuthatches (or at least one it may be the same one every time) but they are occasional visitors. Couple of times a month I manage to spot one.
We have wrens too but they are shy little things and I don't always see them. Sometimes they nest over winter in the garden shed which in winter is infrequently visited.
One of out neighbours gets bullfinches but I haven't seen one in our garden since we stopped growing teasels years ago even though I have started putting out a sunflower seed feeder.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 31 January, 2022, 11:41:15 am
We see goldfinches quite a lot but like every other feathered beast (apart from our faithful pair of robins) they all fuck off when it's the BGBW.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 January, 2022, 06:10:04 pm
Why not sit in the shadowy end of the garden?

Because I don't want to sit in the cold shadow of the garage on a January day with the expectation of seeing the square root of fuckall, tbh. I'd sooner walk to the park and watch birds. Which I did.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: toontra on 31 January, 2022, 06:26:33 pm
You are a lucky bunch - haven't seen mention of ring-necked parakeets (unless I missed it).

They are gradually dominating my (London N1) yard, emptying the squirrel-proof feeders before the great tits (who have nested here for decades) get a look-in, whilst shitting all over the patio.

I first saw one here 5 or 6 years ago.  They are now here, usually in pairs, every day.  I also hear them in the trees of every park, small or large, all over London.

If you don't have them in your garden yet, you will soon.  The population is rocketing and spreading UK-wide.

I would volunteer if a cull were proposed.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 31 January, 2022, 06:33:59 pm
Will a caged feeder not keep them out?
https://www.vinehousefarm.co.uk/the-joys-and-horrors-of-parakeets-on-bird-feeders
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: toontra on 31 January, 2022, 06:46:13 pm
Will a caged feeder not keep them out?
https://www.vinehousefarm.co.uk/the-joys-and-horrors-of-parakeets-on-bird-feeders

I may have to resort to something like that eventually but they are expensive and I'm not convinced there is anything on the market that would 100% keep them out and is light enough to hang from the wire I have set up, not to mention the added difficulty in refiling them.

The sunflower seed feeders I have now have worked fine for decades and only attracted tits and jays.  As I say I feel an affinity with the great tits as they have nested here for multiple generations and it's one of the joys of spring/summer when they fledge.  It would be sad if they were shunted out.

Also it's not just my problem.  They are now everywhere in greater London, where they presumably will be causing the same problems.

It may already be too late for a widespread cull, but that should still be seriously considered IMO.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: perpetual dan on 31 January, 2022, 06:50:19 pm
I kept getting distracted by stuff that needed doing, so haven’t managed more than 10 minutes yet. A collared dove, a blackbird, and a mog that sits by the feeder looking intimidating.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 January, 2022, 06:58:28 pm
There have been small groups of ring-necked parakeets reported round here for a few months. I first saw them in Southend quite a few years ago, but then there was a gap of several years before I saw them again.

My Pal Terry Who Art In Sibton has been a keen birdwatcher, verging on twitcher, for many years. He told me quite a few years ago that he had recorded seeing 229 species in Suffolk in whatever year it was. He decided, randomly, to drive to Southwold to try to round the year off with a 230th species. He told me with some disgust that he did indeed see his 230th species and it was a ring-necked parakeet, in Southwold.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 31 January, 2022, 07:12:52 pm
Our list was much the same as usual. The brightest spot however was six greenfinches. When we moved here they were fairly common, although I don't remember seeing that many at once. They were then devastated by some disease and we didn't see them at all for several years.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 31 January, 2022, 09:43:56 pm
I've hardly seen a greenfinch in the past two years.  Goldfinches are ten-a-penny.  Went with CET Junior to the RSPB reserve at Winterbourne Downs a few weeks ago and saw a flock of about thirty small birds flying over the grasslands, far away from any hedges.  Managed to get one focused shot with the trusty Toshiba mirror lens.  Goldfinches.  Perhaps they have benefited from the greenfinches demise.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Wowbagger on 31 January, 2022, 10:48:06 pm
I haven't seen a greenfinch for ages. Compare that to one January day in 2005. I remember it well because I was still grieving for my mother, who had died the previous month. I had a walk around the park just as dusk was falling there was a flock of hundreds of greenfinches roosting in the treetops. At one point I saw a small group of 7 or 8 birds, whom I assumed to be alpha males, all fly off at once to see off a sparrowhawk that was hanging around.

Last summer, a walk to the same park involved seeing half a dozen goldfinches perched on television aerials, singing their hearts out.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 31 January, 2022, 10:50:19 pm
There are a lot more greenfinches here than in our old neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 18 February, 2022, 08:51:25 am
So, we had ~10 on the feeders the other day.

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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Salvatore on 19 February, 2022, 11:30:03 am
In my garden this morning. It also spent some time on the stump where I'd set up my gopro, but the hour or so of battery life had already passed.

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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Nuncio on 28 January, 2023, 11:29:11 am
Blackbird - 1
Sparrow - 14
Blue tit - 2
Great tit - 1
Starling - 2
Robin - 1
Collared dove - 1
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 28 January, 2023, 12:28:32 pm
We got 18 species, including a blackcap, which is the first for the year (and probably for some months before that). :)
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 28 January, 2023, 01:37:17 pm
1 Wood pigeon
1 Dunnock
1 Robin
1 Magpie

Beats the 2 robins for the last two years.

It seems odd that they don't ask what time of day you did it. This was around lunchtime when the garden's usually empty. First thing in the morning I'd record loads.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 29 January, 2023, 10:54:17 am
Great Tit x3
Blackbird x2
Starling
Wood Pigeon
Carrion Crow
Jackdaw x2
Dunnock
Robin
Blue Tit

Also had flyovers of a Magpie and Collared Dove, both of which settled in next door's garden but not ours.

There were greenfinches on the Common, but they didn't venture over, and heard house sparrows but they don't get past next door's bird feeder.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 29 January, 2023, 02:25:10 pm
2023 scores.

Blue tit1
Blackbird1
Robin1
Dunnock1
Magpie3
Feral pigeon1
Woodpigeon6
Chaffinch2
Greenfinch3
Jackdaw2
Starling20
Goldfinch1
Wren1
Herring gull1
Blackcap (m)1
Carrion crow1
Great tit1
Coal tit1

Also a sparrowhawk flew over but didn't land so doesn't count.

No sparrows.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: IanDG on 29 January, 2023, 02:57:15 pm
Blue Tit 2
Blackbird 1
Dunnock 2
House Sparrow 3
Robin 1
Great Tit 3

Starlings who have been hammering the mealworms/suet all week didn't show.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 January, 2023, 09:31:28 am
Blackbird         3
Sparrow          7
Blue Tit            5
Great Tit          1
Coal Tit            1
Goldfinch         2
Greenfinch       2
Dunnock          1
Robin               1
Wood Pigeon   3
Collared Dove  4
Jackdaw           2

A very low number of blackbirds usually we have at least six in the garden. Also disappointed the long tailed tits didn't show up as they usually do at about the time I was counting. Strangely no chaffinches or bullfinches which we normally get every day. In general a low number of everything. I counted on Sunday. On Saturday there were about eight goldfinches at once on the feeders and a flock of about twenty sparrows lives in our hedge.
Mind you we went for a walk with the dog half an hour later and the whole countryside seemed very quite on the bird front. No idea why, maybe the weather it was cold and overcast.

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: rogerzilla on 30 January, 2023, 10:15:30 am
The starlings are nesting under my roof tiles again.  I like starlings but they don't half shit on the car during Spring - it's right under their flight path as they go to and fro with worms for the chicks.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 January, 2023, 12:58:34 pm
The starlings are nesting under my roof tiles again.  I like starlings but they don't half shit on the car during Spring - it's right under their flight path as they go to and fro with worms for the chicks.

We have a similar issue with wood pigeons. They like to sit on the apex of our roof just above the steps down to the patio and crap all over them and the patio doors.
Fixed it with a metre length of spikes epoxied to the roof ridge. I don't mind them perching on any of the rest of the roof.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 31 January, 2023, 06:31:23 am
Mind you we went for a walk with the dog half an hour later and the whole countryside seemed very quite on the bird front. No idea why, maybe the weather it was cold and overcast.

I went for a run in the afternoon after the birdwatch and saw lots - both herons and little egrets, red kits and buzzards, and a kestrel (it's harder to notice smaller birds when slogging through the mud on trails), despite being overcast, gloomy and the occasional mizzle.  I'm convinced it's as much luck of the draw as it is anything else.  Summed up by the fact that it is always someone else that sees the kingfishers in the Loddon valley and never me.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: geoff on 27 January, 2024, 11:17:56 am
How's your Birdwatch 2024 going?

Here's ours (see piccy)
Good visibility
Garden 25m x 10m
Within 300 metres of farmland
Got trees, shrubs, flowers, wild area (oh do we have wild!) smol pond and a birdfeeder


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Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Nuncio on 27 January, 2024, 11:41:49 am
An uninspiring

Sparrows - 7
Starlings - 3
Pigeon - 1
Great tits - 2
Blackbird - 1
Collared dove - 1

But I've just noticed I hadn't refilled the fat balls so there was a limited menu of peanuts and mixed seeds.

Some strange greater spotted woodpecker behaviour yesterday. It's an infrequent visitor but when it deigns to come it usually stays for a while, feeding at the peanuts and being particularly nasty to any other bird that comes close. Same yesterday, except that after a minute or two of feeding it just stopped, still, dangling in the breeze, for a few more minutes before flying off.

Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: SteveC on 27 January, 2024, 01:22:30 pm
Not one of our best years:

Great Tit   2
Blue Tit   1
Rook      1
Jackdaw      4
House Sparrow   13
Blackbird   2
Robin      2
Goldfinch   4
Collared Dove   1
Chaffinch   2
Wood Pigeon   1
Dunnock      1
Greenfinch   1
Black Cap   1

And an annoying great spotted woodpecker, which was there while I was cooking breakfast, and both MrsC and I have seen since we stopped the survey, but did not show during the actual hour.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Peter on 27 January, 2024, 05:57:50 pm
Can't really do this because we have no window onto the garden and have to watch from the back yard, which makes some of the birds fly off as soon as they notice you.  It's a shame because here in an urban suburb of Rochdale, on a very busy main road we get lots of stuff.  In addition to the usual corvids, pigeon-types and LBJs we get all coal, great and blue tits, long-tailed non-tits but also nuthatches and bullfinches and the occasional GS woodpecker.  All pretty impressive, really.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Basil on 27 January, 2024, 06:49:32 pm
Sparrows - 5
Dunnock - 1
Blackbird - 1
Collared dove - 2
Blue tits 2
Coal tits - 1
Jackdaws  - bloody loads.

For some reason our resident robin and wren failed to appear, as did any of our other regular visitors.
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: nicknack on 28 January, 2024, 10:27:24 am
As usual most of the resident feathery things bugger off for the BGB. But we did a little better than our usual score of 1 robin.

2 long tailed tits
I blue tit
2 house sparrows
1 robin
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: Pingu on 28 January, 2024, 12:30:10 pm
2024 scores.

Blue tit2
Blackbird4
Robin1
Dunnock1
Magpie1
Feral pigeon8
Woodpigeon2
Chaffinch3
Greenfinch2
Jackdaw2
Starling5
Wren1
Carrion crow2
Redwing2

No sparrows, great tits, coal tits or goldfinches  :(
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: IanDG on 28 January, 2024, 02:48:40 pm
11 Sparrow
1 Coal Tit
2 Blackbird
2 Great Tit
1 Robin
2 Dunnock
6 Chaffinch
1 Blue Tit
2 Collared Dove
1 Yellowhammer
9 Starling
Title: Re: Big Garden Birdwatch
Post by: JefO on 26 February, 2024, 02:34:59 pm
A couple of years ago they changed the rules of the garden watch slightly and now we are only allowed to log birds that actually land in our garden. This year there were (frustratingly) 30+ starling feeding in next door's garden, and although these flew into and out of their garden via my garden's airspace, none stopped in our garden until after the hour was up. Little bustards.