Author Topic: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018  (Read 60132 times)

the straggler

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ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« on: 30 September, 2017, 07:43:10 pm »
Whilst on the Suffolk Byways event today, I learned from organiser Tomsk that entries are now open.

I've just dived in. Any other folk have this ride planned for 2018?

Just thinking about 'enter the dragon' and 'bread of heaven'
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ChillyPanda

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #1 on: 30 September, 2017, 07:55:23 pm »
I'd really like to, although Tomsk's description on the AUK website says '... An X-rated event for experienced randonneurs.'

What does 'experienced' mean? I haven't ridden LEL, PBP, or BCM. Although have ridden Flatlands twice.  Perhaps its just a state of mind.


Carlosfandango

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #2 on: 30 September, 2017, 08:34:31 pm »
I'd really like to, although Tomsk's description on the AUK website says '... An X-rated event for experienced randonneurs.'

What does 'experienced' mean? I haven't ridden LEL, PBP, or BCM. Although have ridden Flatlands twice.  Perhaps its just a state of mind.

Experienced in suffering? 2 x Flatlands, you`re doubly qualified :thumbsup:

the straggler

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #3 on: 30 September, 2017, 08:52:31 pm »
I'd really like to, although Tomsk's description on the AUK website says '... An X-rated event for experienced randonneurs.'

What does 'experienced' mean? I haven't ridden LEL, PBP, or BCM. Although have ridden Flatlands twice.  Perhaps its just a state of mind.

Experienced in suffering? 2 x Flatlands, you`re doubly qualified :thumbsup:
Carlos is right. It's just an x-rated 400k extension of Flatlands. I doubt Tomsk will make due diligence checks on applicants.
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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #4 on: 30 September, 2017, 08:53:26 pm »
It's on my shortlist for 2018. But first I have to check a few other options and discuss at work.
The startplace and time looks nearly ideal for the night ferry from Hoek.

mmmmartin

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #5 on: 30 September, 2017, 08:56:17 pm »
In.
Thinking was thus:
  • now have the option to ride, which has cost a fiver. Might ride, really want to.
  • But might not ride, in which case I am down a fiver and Tomsk is up a fiver which he deserves anyway for all the work he puts in for auk. 
What's not to like in this?
Besides, it wouldn't be audacious if success were guaranteed.

Tomsk

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #6 on: 30 September, 2017, 09:36:22 pm »
I'll put a summary of controls and possible sleep stops, schedule etc on AUKweb in a week or two - after a hectic September I need a break from organising duties via a keyboard for a bit. Piloting the teapot and over-feeding riders next week on the REM 100 & 200, then I'll crack on with organising.

The climbing on the 'Grand' will be less than on the BCM 600, but then I've consistently been slower on the Flatlands and with less sleep than on the BCM.

X-rated = defined as commercial controls, no AUK controllers. Actually just like on tour, you're on yer own matey...

Pleased there has been a positive reaction to the event and entries are coming in already!

Just thinking about 'enter the dragon' and 'bread of heaven'

 I did consider 'Land of my Fathers' as a title, but it was used by the late Dave Lewis for one of his events, and anyway, my Welsh ancestors were from mid-Wales - Radnorshire, not the Valleys.

Wycombewheeler

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #7 on: 30 September, 2017, 11:00:04 pm »
I'd really like to, although Tomsk's description on the AUK website says '... An X-rated event for experienced randonneurs.'

What does 'experienced' mean? I haven't ridden LEL, PBP, or BCM. Although have ridden Flatlands twice.  Perhaps its just a state of mind.

Experienced in suffering? 2 x Flatlands, you`re doubly qualified :thumbsup:
Carlos is right. It's just an x-rated 400k extension of Flatlands. I doubt Tomsk will make due diligence checks on applicants.
Did I imagine the line about sending your cv with the application?
Either way if you've done a x rated 600 and come back for more you should be fine.

Eddington  127miles, 170km

jiberjaber

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #8 on: 01 October, 2017, 10:08:16 am »
I haven't read the description of the ride, but have entered any way - it's a Tomsk ride, what's the worse that can happen...  :facepalm:
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Joergen

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #9 on: 01 October, 2017, 10:23:55 am »
What's the rationale for this event being "mudguards mandatory"?
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Wycombewheeler

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #10 on: 01 October, 2017, 10:50:15 am »
What's the rationale for this event being "mudguards mandatory"?
It goes to Wales so rain is guaranteed.

Eddington  127miles, 170km

jiberjaber

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #11 on: 01 October, 2017, 11:24:30 am »
What's the rationale for this event being "mudguards mandatory"?

Only took 10 posts, well done for bring it to the attention of the the thread.  ::-)
Regards,

Joergen

rob

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #12 on: 01 October, 2017, 01:33:34 pm »
This kind of fits next years plans as well.   This or the Scottish one ?, both ?  ???

citoyen

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #13 on: 01 October, 2017, 01:50:25 pm »
This kind of fits next years plans as well.   This or the Scottish one ?, both ?  ???

Both!

I’m thinking about it.
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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #14 on: 01 October, 2017, 03:49:40 pm »
I see no reason that this couldn't be made available as a Perm?

Then again I may be able to get the time off....

whosatthewheel

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #15 on: 01 October, 2017, 04:02:06 pm »
What's the rationale for this event being "mudguards mandatory"?

Only took 10 posts, well done for bring it to the attention of the the thread.  ::-)

AFAIK all of Tomsk audax ask for compulsory mudguards, regardless of the season... it's a bit old skool, but at the end of the day, his ride = his rules. Don't see it as a big problem in a 1K where I would assume folks use more randonneur oriented bikes... more of a hassle on short 200 km BR, where folks on carbon would just shy away

redfalo

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #16 on: 01 October, 2017, 04:04:14 pm »
I'm in! Already looking forward to this. Will try to bring some mates from the continent.
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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #17 on: 01 October, 2017, 04:21:37 pm »
AFAIK all of Tomsk audax ask for compulsory mudguards, regardless of the season... it's a bit old skool, but at the end of the day, his ride = his rules. Don't see it as a big problem in a 1K where I would assume folks use more randonneur oriented bikes... more of a hassle on short 200 km BR, where folks on carbon would just shy away

Agree that Tom's event and Tom's rules apply and I enjoy riding his events.  I believe the reason is to ensure, in the event of poor weather, folk don't go into controls with soaking wet and dirty kit as the owners tend not to like folk sitting on their furniture in that condition.

I disagree with your comment regarding 1K events as from my experience carbon bikes without mudguards are far more prevalent than bikes with mudguards (be they carbon, aluminium, titanium or steel). Good example was LEL where no mudguards far outnumbered those with mudguards. I compromised by having the long Zefal Swan Road attached to the seatpost that kept my backside clean: I was still soaked due to the intensity of the rain but my kit was not covered in muck from the road.

http://www.zefal.com/en/mudguards-road/77-swan-road.html

Whether this is classed as a mudguard is a mute point and I use something like Raceguards on Tom's events.

whosatthewheel

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #18 on: 01 October, 2017, 05:00:25 pm »

 Good example was LEL where no mudguards far outnumbered those with mudguards.

I suspect a 4 quid event and a 300?? quid event attract slightly different crowds... the level of self-sufficiency needed is completely different... I can't see many doing this on a full-on race bike

Aunt Maud

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #19 on: 01 October, 2017, 05:24:57 pm »


VM has a very good point about being considerate to cafe/control owners and your fellow wheelers. A little more of the "think about those you come across" other than the usual "me, me, me". wouldn't go amiss on a longer ride.

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #20 on: 01 October, 2017, 08:20:21 pm »
I certainly couldn't imagine riding far in the wet and mud without some kind of mudguards fitted. Whilst its strange that it's compulsory on an X rated event, meaning no controls specifically for the event..or even a finish point on this one...it makes little difference to me as they would be on anyway.

Although that topic has probably been done to death....

As I said though...hopefully there will be a perm route?

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #21 on: 01 October, 2017, 09:50:25 pm »
I've got my entry in - I couldn't make any of the other UK 1000k's so very pleased to see this one would fit in to the diary.  It should be just about 1000K of new roads for me which is always a bonus.

rob

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #22 on: 02 October, 2017, 10:27:57 am »
This kind of fits next years plans as well.   This or the Scottish one ?, both ?  ???

Both!

I’m thinking about it.

More sensible hat on today as I'm back at work and adding up my annual leave.   I think, realistically, this will be the one rather than a trip to Scotland.   The start is a lot more practical for me and it slots neatly between 2 A races next year whilst still allowing for some recovery time.

Amazing that there's 4 1000k rides in the calendar for next year, though.   Also 2 of them are more manageable than the Grimpeur-fests we have seen the last few years.

Zed43

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Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #23 on: 02 October, 2017, 11:12:11 am »
I'm curious, is this really the route as intended: Chepstow, Pontypridd, Barry, Tonypandy, Llandovery, Neath, Barry, Chepstow. Going from Pontypridd to Barry to Tonypandy seems rather odd.

megajoulesexpenditure

Re: ACME Grand 1000km 28 June 2018
« Reply #24 on: 02 October, 2017, 12:08:07 pm »
Entered. Something to get me out of the door on those winter training rides and dream of on the dark and gloomy evenings.  :thumbsup: