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Proms 2023
« on: 14 July, 2023, 01:57:15 pm »
Has anyone bought any tickets, or planning to?

I've not been to a prom since before the pandemic - I think it was 2018 - but I shall be watching BBC2 this evening at 7, for the first night. I haven't been through the programmes to see if there's anything I fancy going to.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #1 on: 14 July, 2023, 02:06:41 pm »
I expect Professor Larrington and Dr Davis will be going to a Several, as is their wont.  Assuming the former can fit it into her frantic life of FOREIGN travel and #MediaTartery :demon:
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #2 on: 14 July, 2023, 02:35:59 pm »
Saw BBC article with Clive Myrie on the Proms. There is a Northern Soul prom, which sounds rather jolly.

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #3 on: 14 July, 2023, 07:56:12 pm »
https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/proms/bbc-proms-2023/prom-29-mozarts-mass-in-c-minor/

I rather fancy that one. John Butt is one of the Top Bach Specialists. He came and lectured us at the choral course I did at St. Andrews a few years ago.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #4 on: 14 July, 2023, 08:03:58 pm »
FFS why are the people introducing this programme still making stupid references to Morecambe & Wise? That was over 50 years ago.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #5 on: 14 July, 2023, 08:17:59 pm »
When I win multiple millions on the slottery I will take a room at Claridges for the entire season.     I've only ever managed to get to one Prom in the past, and that was nothing distinguished.  Cultural events in London are getting too expensive to attend.  Not the events, just the train down & the accommodation.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #6 on: 14 July, 2023, 08:38:13 pm »
If there's one or more you fancy, you can always stay with us. OK, we are an hour from Lpoo St, but at least you'd have no accommodation costs. Oh, and there are plenty of late night trains out of London. I think the last leaves at 12.45am. Edit: correction - 12.50am.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #7 on: 15 July, 2023, 11:38:56 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001npjr

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #8 on: 16 July, 2023, 12:32:05 am »
Northern Soul tonight was outstanding, superb atmosphere. Got the whole of the Albert Hall dancing - by the end it looked as though there were no more than a couple of dozen hold-outs stubbornly clinging to their seats.

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #9 on: 16 July, 2023, 07:53:33 pm »
FFS why do audiences clap between movements?
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« Reply #10 on: 16 July, 2023, 08:33:28 pm »
FFS why do audiences clap between movements?

Was wondering the same. ???

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #11 on: 16 July, 2023, 08:41:08 pm »
The conductor asked the audience not to for Vivaldi's 4 seasons: "There are so many movements!"
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #12 on: 16 July, 2023, 08:59:40 pm »
Ha - just got to that bit (I'm watching on BBC 4). ;D

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #13 on: 16 July, 2023, 09:13:45 pm »
The conductor asked the audience not to for Vivaldi's 4 seasons: "There are so many movements!"

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #14 on: 19 July, 2023, 08:13:05 pm »
That Beethoven's 5th symphony tonight...
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« Reply #15 on: 19 July, 2023, 08:45:18 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001npjr

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #16 on: 20 July, 2023, 08:37:43 am »
FFS why do audiences clap between movements?
Perhaps they don't the end of one movement and the beginning of another? Perhaps they are
first-timers the the proms and just like the music?

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« Reply #17 on: 20 July, 2023, 11:04:26 am »
FFS why do audiences clap between movements?
Perhaps they don't the end of one movement and the beginning of another? Perhaps they are
first-timers the the proms and just like the music?

Perhaps - but it did not used to happen. I don't know when it started.

You used to get occasional clapping between movements when the concerts attracted quite significant junior audiences, but not adults. It's not difficult to look at a programme and find out how many movements there are to a piece.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #18 on: 23 July, 2023, 12:07:36 am »
Beethoven's 9th next...  :D
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« Reply #19 on: 23 July, 2023, 11:53:37 am »
     I've only ever managed to get to one Prom in the past, and that was nothing distinguished.

We went to see Beethoven’s 5th some years ago. It was completely a underwhelming experience, the AH acoustics robbing it of any impact. In contrast, Carmina Burana at Chi cathedral was stunning, and I had expected the same feeling at the Prom. Very disappointed.
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #20 on: 23 July, 2023, 01:02:40 pm »
I think Carmina Burana and Stravinsky's "Symphony of Psalms" are both on in the same concert later this week.

I've never sung in Carmina Burana. Basildon Choral Society invited extras in a few years ago and I thought it would be rather fun, despite their obnoxious musical director. I went to one rehearsal and arrived sans pencil. They had some to borrow so I did, but one of the senior bods said to me in hearing of others "Call yourself a chorister?" in a most unwelcoming way. When we got to sing, they wanted me to sing first bass (I normally sing second), and I don't know what Orff was on when he wrote it, but huge chunks of it were ridiculously high - way outside my comfort zone, so I didn't go back.

I think it must have been about 50 years ago that the Proms had a big problem on their hands when they sang Carmina Burana. The baritone soloist, Thomas Allen, passed out on stage mid-performance and had to be taken to hospital. He had an understudy from the choir, but said understudy was also a GP and as the responsible medic, had to accompany his patient to the hospital, and no-one had thought of that. In the end, some young chap from one of the music colleges, who had recently sung the part in question, came out of the audience, and dressed in dinner jacket and denim jeans, sang the rest of the part in question, to the most wonderful applause that anyone could possibly receive. I don't think he did an encore.

On googling, I found a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJAdGvFNncU&ab_channel=Burtw47

Patrick McCarthy is now a musical director of a choir or two in North Essex and Suffolk, I think.

Oh yes, here he is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_McCarthy_(conductor)
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #21 on: 23 July, 2023, 08:29:45 pm »
When we were rehearsing for our performance of the 9th symphony at college (1974 - the 150th anniversary of its first performance), I'm sure we were told that this was the first occasion that any composer had scored a symphony for 4 horns. I'm pretty sure I've counted 5 playing tonight...
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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #22 on: 24 July, 2023, 12:13:26 am »
Beethoven's 9th next...  :D

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #23 on: 24 July, 2023, 02:12:42 pm »
When we were rehearsing for our performance of the 9th symphony at college (1974 - the 150th anniversary of its first performance), I'm sure we were told that this was the first occasion that any composer had scored a symphony for 4 horns. I'm pretty sure I've counted 5 playing tonight...
5 horns playing 4 horn parts is normal, I thought. The fifth is an extra first horn - they call it "bumping" first. Source, my sister, who played (maybe still plays, sometimes, though I think one of her children has her horn now).
(I'm doubting myself a little, as you are obviously very knowledgeable about music, Wowbagger. But I'm pretty sure I'm right.)

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Re: Proms 2023
« Reply #24 on: 24 July, 2023, 03:18:04 pm »
Sounds quite plausible. I've never played in an orchestra - my experience is mostly a monastic existence as a pianist, and singing in a choir. I've also got some limited experience playing in recorder consorts.

It's not the first time I've seen it with horns, but I can't say I've noticed with other instruments.

I think yesterday's contrabassoonist was playing a normal bassoon in the first three movements.
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