Author Topic: Southend Cycle Town - part 2  (Read 238977 times)

AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #950 on: 11 June, 2011, 05:22:57 pm »
Wonder how they'll edit out the parking illegally in the cycle lane…  ;)


Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #951 on: 11 June, 2011, 05:51:38 pm »
^ Maybe they swapped producers, Top Gear for EastEnders^


AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #952 on: 11 June, 2011, 06:17:18 pm »
The Prittlewell Brook path is for dogs and their walkers isnt it?
I dont think I have ever seen anyone cycling on it  ???
I see cyclists riding there every day and just now I reported, to the rozzers, a couple of yoofs on a mini moto on the Greenway.

Wonder if this is related? Mini Moto seized by police (From Echo)

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #953 on: 12 June, 2011, 08:00:30 am »
Wonder how they'll edit out the parking illegally in the cycle lane…  ;)


Where's Casey Neistat when you need him?  :facepalm:

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #954 on: 13 June, 2011, 08:42:45 am »
You mean Casey Ryback surely!!?

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AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #955 on: 20 June, 2011, 07:17:09 pm »
These signs have appeared over the weekend. Oddly there are no corresponding signs for road traffic.


Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #956 on: 20 June, 2011, 07:20:43 pm »
These signs have appeared over the weekend. Oddly there are no corresponding signs for road traffic.


To be fair, there doesn't need to be because motorists always stop for pedestrians on zebra crossings.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #957 on: 20 June, 2011, 07:23:37 pm »
These signs have appeared over the weekend. Oddly there are no corresponding signs for road traffic.


To be fair, there doesn't need to be because motorists always stop for pedestrians on zebra crossings.

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #958 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:09:27 pm »
Umm - why doesn't the pedestrian crossing just continue across the cycle lanes as well? Then there would be no need for the signs or the requirement to plant a belisha beacon in the middle of the cycle lane.

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #959 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:12:12 pm »
Indeed. I'm sure that that "pedestrian crossing" has no legal force on the cycle lane because it's not properly marked.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #960 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:20:01 pm »
I think the sign is probably there because (a) the zebra crossing doesn't extend across the cycle lane and (b) there is no provision in the psyclepath design manual for a zebra crossing - at least, I've never seen one.

So it's probably bizarre design rules rather than the vindictive action of a sinister cabal of shape-shifting Illuminati.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #961 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:21:57 pm »
No, but there are "Give Way" markings on the cyclepath and also a "Give Way" sign.
The sign reads, "Pedestrians Crossing," which to me is a warning that pedestrians may be crossing, not a statement that it is an actual pedstrian crossing. Just like you get when a Sustrans route crosses a road and you see a, "Cyclists Crossing," sign, usualy accompanied by the warning triangle with the bike in it.
What puzzles me is whether you cycle on (well, across really, but you have to ride on it to cross it, unless you jump) a pavement when you cross the pedestrian crossing or not? It certainly looks that way to me.
If so, then you'd have to join the road to get past the pavement, then re-join the cyclepath, or just stay on the road.

AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #962 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:24:30 pm »
The signs on the posts look a bit 'amateurish' to say the least.



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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #963 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:28:06 pm »
They're not legally enforcable, because they don't conform.  And I'm prepared to bet the reason they aren't using proper signage is because they haven't gone through the proper legal process to create the cycle lane in the first place.

ETA: I would give way to pedestrians anyway.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #964 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:28:07 pm »
Andy, just a thought, are you sure its nothing to do with the London-Southend bike ride this weekend :-\

Cancel that  :-[

AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #965 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:33:55 pm »
Andy, just a thought, are you sure its nothing to do with the London-Southend bike ride this weekend :-\

Cancel that  :-[


I would have said 'possibly' if these signs had gone up at all the pedestrian crossings along there. They haven't, they've only appeared opposite Toulouse. I'm inclined to think this may have been done privately, and the council may even be unaware of it.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #966 on: 20 June, 2011, 09:59:42 pm »
Andy, just a thought, are you sure its nothing to do with the London-Southend bike ride this weekend :-\

Cancel that  :-[


I would have said 'possibly' if these signs had gone up at all the pedestrian crossings along there. They haven't, they've only appeared opposite Toulouse. I'm inclined to think this may have been done privately, and the council may even be unaware of it.

I am inclined to agree with that.

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #967 on: 20 June, 2011, 10:01:25 pm »
If they're private, then there would be no crime in removing illegal signs littering the street ;)
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #968 on: 21 June, 2011, 12:33:52 pm »
Sometime last Friday afternoon/Saturday morning a bike hoop has been clamped onto a lamp post adjacent to the row of shops. It seems my suggestion of adding cycle parking has found some funding.
Just here Clicky google map. Do we know of anymore?


Edit: It's the same as this one but in stainless steel and fitted onto a galvanised light column.

AndyK

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #969 on: 21 June, 2011, 12:45:05 pm »
There's one been added outside the Costcutter in Shoebury High Street. It's been there for almost a year now I think. Hmm… I haven't seen any like that though. Looks a bit high off the ground. Not much use for locking up a small wheeler.

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #970 on: 21 June, 2011, 10:00:51 pm »
Sometime last Friday afternoon/Saturday morning a bike hoop has been clamped onto a lamp post adjacent to the row of shops. It seems my suggestion of adding cycle parking has found some funding.
Just here Clicky google map. Do we know of anymore?


Edit: It's the same as this one but in stainless steel and fitted onto a galvanised light column.


These were announced by Tim Totten at the cycle forum (one before last I think). There are loads going up all over the town in front of shops and other places where people may want to take their bikes. The loops are being used where there is no room for a tradditional sheffield stand.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #971 on: 22 June, 2011, 06:47:29 am »
There's one been added outside the Costcutter in Shoebury High Street. It's been there for almost a year now I think. Hmm… I haven't seen any like that though. Looks a bit high off the ground. Not much use for locking up a small wheeler.

I'm struggling to see how you would lock any bike up properly with one of those.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #972 on: 22 June, 2011, 06:56:16 am »
I'm struggling to see how you would lock any bike up properly with one of those.
Here's a similar hoop with bike attached.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #973 on: 22 June, 2011, 09:26:12 am »
I'm struggling to see how you would lock any bike up properly with one of those.
Here's a similar hoop with bike attached.
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Thanks Del, it looked a bit too high up at first glance.  Certainly an improvement on wheelbenders.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #974 on: 22 June, 2011, 10:14:41 am »
Here's a shot of the actual hoop. As you can see it's a bit tougher to secure a Brompton but it still works.