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General Category => The Knowledge => Health & Fitness => Topic started by: Justin(e) on 11 November, 2009, 03:46:32 am

Title: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: Justin(e) on 11 November, 2009, 03:46:32 am
A couple of days ago I had a batch of EPO delivered because of an illness described elsewhere on this forum.

Today I get to have my first injection of Aranesp (darbepoetin).  I have never taken anything like this before, but I have a certain fascination with the potential benefits.

A couple of years ago I read an article (http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html) on a guy who took EPO (et al) as part of his prep for PBP.  To suggest that there are no benefits is to deny the evidence, but I have always been wary of Lance Armstrong's doctor (Ferrari) comparing EPO to orange juice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Ferrari).  Now I get to take it legitimately.

I am curious on how to empirically measure the benefits on me.  Maybe it is too late to set a baseline but suggestions on a mini scientific study would be welcome.  For reference, my fitness is very low.  I have not ridden for about 8 months, and a 3km walk is a major undertaking at the moment.

My physician said that there should be short term placebo benefits followed by longer term physical ones.
Title: Re: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: andygates on 11 November, 2009, 09:54:12 am
You'll be turbo'ing at 2am to keep you jam-thick blood from setting in your legs yet!  Sounds fascinating, do keep us informed.
Title: Re: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: hellymedic on 11 November, 2009, 10:05:44 am
Record your time to walk (say) 1km on a regular basis.
Plot the result on a graph.
Cheap.
Simples.
Title: Re: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: Hot Flatus on 11 November, 2009, 10:06:19 am
I am curious on how to empirically measure the benefits on me. 

Compare number of audax victories before and after treatment
Title: Re: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: Charlotte on 11 November, 2009, 10:09:38 am
Ethnographic drug research!

Maybe just keep some kind of diary about your levels of activity and note any other relevant factors?

If you find yourself feeling more able to get on a turbo or take a walk once you've been on it for a while, then start monitoring your performance then.
Title: Re: Legal Erythropoietin
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 November, 2009, 10:21:46 am
Bear in mind that kidney patients are prescribed EPO because their malfunctioning kidneys fail to produce enough of the body's natural EPO which initiates the production of red blood cells. When Dez first started dialysis he was terribly anaemic and couldn't walk 50 yards without having to stop for a rest - not good in a 23 year old.

Once he was established in the routine, his red blood cell count was about 10% higher than everyone else's and he used to leave us all behind when we went for a long walk.