PBP 2019 Qualifiers.

[citoyen]

The ACP season kicks off at the start of November, unlike the AUK one which runs from October.)

I presume this means that a BRM ridden in the UK during October would count as a pre-qualifier for ACP purposes, even though it is in the wrong season?

I've had someone asking for late entry to my 200 because he wants to use it as a PBP pre-qualifier (tbh, I hadn't anticipated this circumstance when I decided to make it a BRM, it's purely fortuitous). I've had to knock him back as the event is full, but I will point him in the direction of other BRMs remaining in 2018 - which include the Lancashire Lights 200 on 21st October.

I shall also let him know that he'd be better off doing one of the 600s or the 300 if he intends it to be a PBP pre-qualifier.

ETA: found the answer to my question in Ivo's post in the other thread:

The international season ends at october 31st. All BRM's ridden until then count for the pre qualification. Depending on where you're residing (France or outside) BRM's from november 1st count as qualifiers.

[D.A.L.E.]

Re:

Whatever you've ridden in 2018 you still need to qualify for PBP by riding a Super Randonneur series of BRM rides (one each at a minimum of 200km, 300km, 400km, 600km) before the end of June 2019 (dates may vary from country to country).

Does anyone have a link to dates for qualifying windows in other countries (I.e. Canada)?

[Deano]

You can look at the 2015 BRM calendar here to give you an idea: http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=preparation&page=calendrier_brevet

The 2019 calendar should be finalised by now but I dunno when they'll publish it.

[D.A.L.E.]

You can look at the 2015 BRM calendar here to give you an idea: http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=preparation&page=calendrier_brevet

The 2019 calendar should be finalised by now but I dunno when they'll publish it.

Cheers, I'd not thought of that. A Canadian 200 in late December/early January. How hard can it be...

[LittleWheelsandBig]

A January 200 would probably count in Canada but a December 200 won't. Canada is north of the Equator.

BC Randonneurs is the main group in Canada and most likely to have a winter brevet. Most other Canadian groups will want less snow before starting their 2019 season.

[D.A.L.E.]

A January 200 would probably count in Canada but a December 200 won't. Canada is north of the Equator.

BC Randonneurs is the main group in Canada and most likely to have a winter brevet. Most other Canadian groups will want less snow before starting their 2019 season.

Really? According to the 2015 calendar there were BRMs in October/November, one in January (Quebec) and then they picked up in March.

[cygnet]

It's just a list of BRMs, not PBP qualifiers (There's a Canadian 600 listed in Sept 2015 too)

[LittleWheelsandBig]

Canada has about 6 provinces (currently 7) organising brevets independently. Most of the inland provinces get extremely cold in winter.

Qualifying in Nov/ Dec is basically a Southern hemisphere thing only. There are (or were) specific qualifying periods agreed with each country. Most Northern hemisphere countries have similar closing dates to the French for each distance but often start earlier in the year.

[grams]

I thought the windows were just a guideline for when organisers should put events on, and BRMs outside them would still count?

(I note there’s now three non-“PBP” BRMs in the AUK calendar in the first half of next year...)

[D.A.L.E.]

It's just a list of BRMs, not PBP qualifiers (There's a Canadian 600 listed in Sept 2015 too)

"The complete BRM calendar for 2015 (qualifying events for PBP 2015) can be downloaded here :"

I care not really. I might be in Canadia over Christmas, would have been a laugh to do a 200 in minus 400 degree weather. We shall wait and see.

[Ivo]

I thought the windows were just a guideline for when organisers should put events on, and BRMs outside them would still count?

(I note there’s now three non-“PBP” BRMs in the AUK calendar in the first half of next year...)

Indeed. I got word from Paris that all non-French BRM's after 1-11 until the end of the qualification period will count towards PBP qualification.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

They've changed their tune then.

[Ivo]

They've changed their tune then.

The increased amount of countries organising full winter series might have something to do with this.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

AUK's RRtY has a lot to answer for...

[simonp]

I thought the windows were just a guideline for when organisers should put events on, and BRMs outside them would still count?

(I note there’s now three non-“PBP” BRMs in the AUK calendar in the first half of next year...)

Indeed. I got word from Paris that all non-French BRM's after 1-11 until the end of the qualification period will count towards PBP qualification.

Is there a link to an official statement confirming this anywhere? I could do my 200k qualifier in November and save riding a February/March 200k (useful to avoid diary clashes and maybe ice). But I don't want to find out later when I try to enter that I was wrong.

[mattc]

there aren't any BRMs in Nov or Dec.  So I guess that ship has sailed, for good or bad.

[Zed43]

If your willing to sail to Belgium or the Netherlands then you will find half a dozen 200k BRM rides in the november/december/januari timeframe.

[simonp]

there aren't any BRMs in Nov or Dec.  So I guess that ship has sailed, for good or bad.

Oh.

[Ivo]

I thought the windows were just a guideline for when organisers should put events on, and BRMs outside them would still count?

(I note there’s now three non-“PBP” BRMs in the AUK calendar in the first half of next year...)

Indeed. I got word from Paris that all non-French BRM's after 1-11 until the end of the qualification period will count towards PBP qualification.

Is there a link to an official statement confirming this anywhere? I could do my 200k qualifier in November and save riding a February/March 200k (useful to avoid diary clashes and maybe ice). But I don't want to find out later when I try to enter that I was wrong.

Not on the internet that I know of. But it has been discussed in the right circles .

[quixoticgeek]

there aren't any BRMs in Nov or Dec.  So I guess that ship has sailed, for good or bad.

I have 2 200km BRM in my diary for November. Both in the Netherlands...

This is one of the advantages all Dutch calendar events being BRM...

J

[Phil W]

I have my 200 qualifier set for later in year. If winter proves mild on a 200 BRM weekend then might bag one earlier.

[rob]

Due to general buggering around with my calendar to fit lots in I find myself doing a 400k on the last possible weekend and after I've done my 600k.

I suppose I could always ride a second 600k if all goes a bit wrong.   Pretty sure you can still do this.

[Ivo]

I'm now working on a schedule which would involve 3 weekends off from work
1st weekend an early 400k
2nd weekend either early 600 or late 400
3rd weekend either a late 600 or a 1000.
That'll probably keep my boss happy and give me a back up option.

[simonp]

I’ve got a diary clash with my planned 400k (Brevet Cymru). Rowing training camp is the same weekend. So I have entered the Buckingham Blinder. I should if everything goes to plan have qualified for mid May and will avoid excessive fatigue carrying into the big rowing events (HoRR on 30th March and Henley Royal Regatta early July). After Henley I’ll be able to focus on cycling fitness more.

[quixoticgeek]

I'm now working on a schedule which would involve 3 weekends off from work
1st weekend an early 400k
2nd weekend either early 600 or late 400
3rd weekend either a late 600 or a 1000.
That'll probably keep my boss happy and give me a back up option.

Speaking of which, when does the Dutch Calendar come out?

J