Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Bianchi Boy on 11 February, 2011, 09:22:03 pm
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Thought that I had better start a thread on this. I will ride this for the first time this year as my PBP qualifier. I planned to ride last year but was ill for most of May.
I need to plan sleeping the night before. Anyone fancy sharing the Exeter Travel Lodge?
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In.
Already sharing a room at the Exeter Travelodge.
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The start list is growing steadily, so there are bound to be people to share with.
...and thanks for starting the thread.
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am undecided between this and The Beast.... K&SW is a more enjoyable route but the Beast is closer to home
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I need to plan sleeping the night before. Anyone fancy sharing the Exeter Travel Lodge?
I'm looking for accommodation on the Friday and Sunday nights, happy to share to cut costs, anyone else still looking?
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^^^ Probably. Certainly at the end.
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Cheap train tickets available for some of the trains (the Paddington ones anyway).
Still waiting for the cheap South West Trains tickets so I can go straight from work (near Waterloo). These trains take longer but I'd only spend that extra time getting over to Paddington for the faster trains. Also means I can also get a ticket back to my local station without having to go into London.
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Was told the other day that cycle booking was only available upto 21/5 on Great Western services through Reading.
Book train next week some time. Accomodation sorted for Friday night. Will be booking train about 9pm back to Reading. Hope I make it.
BB
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Was told the other day that cycle booking was only available upto 21/5 on Great Western services through Reading.
Book train next week some time.
FGW trains through Reading, with cycle reservations, are available now. I just booked one using
Cheapest Train Tickets for the East Coast > East Coast
(http://www.eastcoast.co.uk) as a test (but didn't buy it of course...).
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Was told the other day that cycle booking was only available upto 21/5 on Great Western services through Reading.
Book train next week some time.
FGW trains through Reading, with cycle reservations, are available now. I just booked one using
Cheapest Train Tickets for the East Coast > East Coast
(http://www.eastcoast.co.uk) as a test (but didn't buy it of course...).
Just booked train with cycle reservation. The East Coast web site is the best rail booking web site I have seen.
I now have a share for the Travelodge on the Friday night as well.
Train home booked for about 8:30pm. Should be back by then ( ???
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Train home booked for about 8:30pm. Should be back by then ( ???
It has been done.
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I've booked my travel. Cambridge <-> Exeter St Davids (silly me booked Exeter Central last time) with cycle reservation.
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SWT advance fares available for the trains from London Waterloo.
Waterloo to Exeter Central (since it stops there) for a whole whopping £13. ;)
Return tickets on this route not available yet but I'll be dropping by to see parents near Crewkerne on the way back.
[EDIT] Return tickets available. £11 advance for Crewkerne to Clapham Junction. No advance fares for Exeter to Crewkerne so it's a choice of a £12.90 walk up fare or a 60km ride in the morning. In for a penny...
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Train home booked for about 8:30pm. Should be back by then ( ???
Very acheivable in good weather and if you are a fast(ish) rider.
I seemed doomed to never ride this event again as it falls on weekends that clash with family and domestic related events.
:'(
H
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I seemed doomed to never ride this event again as it falls on weekends that clash with family and domestic related events.
:'(
H
There's a permanent version.
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I seemed doomed to never ride this event again as it falls on weekends that clash with family and domestic related events.
:'(
H
There's a permanent version.
But.. but... but... it won't be same.
Besides, the Buzzard will be confused.
H
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I seemed doomed to never ride this event again as it falls on weekends that clash with family and domestic related events.
It always clashes with one important event but I've managed to blag it this year.
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Good route summary on Ian's UKCYCLIST site too.
H
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I'm in. Paypal makes it far too easy.
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I'm in. Paypal makes it far too easy.
He he he! Another victim.
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I'll want my money back if the buzzard doesn't make an appearance.
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i think i've entered this ride. haven't been to that part of england yet.
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i think i've entered this ride. haven't been to that part of england yet.
You're unsure? PM me your name and I'll confirm.
I'll want my money back if the buzzard doesn't make an appearance.
The buzzard seems to have been quiet of late. Or dead.
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I'm worried that if I manage to do the BCM and the Clywd Offa, I might need this one to get my DNS SR.
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I'm worried that if I manage to do the BCM and the Clywd Offa, I might need this one to get my DNS SR.
Sorry old chap, the entry system can't cope with names more than 12 letters long.
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Hmm. Decisions decisions.
The Aravis has full mudguards and a centaur triple (30/40/53).
The Wilier can have crud road racer mudguards slapped on if necessary and has a 34/50 compact.
The PowerTap rear wheel has a 13-26 cassette on it, but I could move the 13-29 over to it (which should still play nicely with the 34/50 compact and the small rear mech).
30x29 is a 27.3" gear, 34x26 is not far off at 34.5". Shouldn't be a problem if I'm used to pushing 67" regardless.
Aravis can have a rack fitted, offering the choice of Barley or Creek2Peak rack pack.
The Wilier can't take a rack, so limits me to a Barley (without SQR).
The important bit is that the Wilier is 3kg+ lighter than the Aravis, and I know it won't kill me as I've done the Snowdon & Coast 400 on it and didn't snap myself in half (as some people think will happen with a soot bike).
At no point am I considering bringing the Tempo. This is one ride I'll gladly pass on riding fixed.
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At no point am I considering bringing the Tempo. This is one ride I'll gladly pass on riding fixed.
MV did, I rode round with him
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At no point am I considering bringing the Tempo. This is one ride I'll gladly pass on riding fixed.
MV did, I rode round with him
I'm sure it's doable on fixed, just not by me this year.
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At no point am I considering bringing the Tempo. This is one ride I'll gladly pass on riding fixed.
MV did, I rode round with him
And Swiss Hat (IIRC).
H
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Hmm. Decisions decisions.
30x29 is a 27.3" gear, 34x26 is not far off at 34.5". Shouldn't be a problem if I'm used to pushing 67" regardless.
(...)
The important bit is that the Wilier is 3kg+ lighter than the Aravis, and I know it won't kill me as I've done the Snowdon & Coast 400 on it and didn't snap myself in half (as some people think will happen with a soot bike).
Funny, innit?
I finally came to terms with fact that this year the Kernow will be conquered by my touring bike. Last year's roady audax bike is dismantled but the successor won't be ready for another month or two. I will try to audax-ify the tourer but it is still considerably heavier than the old road machine. On the plus side, the lowest gear is a 26x27, that should make things considerably easier compared to last years 34x27 (which was fine, too).
At no point am I considering bringing the Tempo. This is one ride I'll gladly pass on riding fixed.
Yep, I will not do this ride on my fixed (repeat until 4 < 3). I learnt my lesson after the Dartmoor Devil ... for now.
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I think it was as I was throwing my toys out of the pram here:
Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&q=mydroilyn&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mydroilyn,+Lampeter,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ll=52.176563,-4.260378&spn=0.021027,0.066047&z=15&layer=c&cbll=52.176444,-4.260377&panoid=cSSLY4CnYQdw2wit90QHKA&cbp=12,339.43,,0,4.62)
that I decided I wasn't so keen on riding the K&SW on fixed.
But the Audax MIB have been round, and now it doesn't seem like a bad idea after all. :facepalm:
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This will be my 1st attempt.. gulp
I'm leaving it a bit late to find a campsite perhaps?
Looking at the IanH's Tourist Links today,
Is there a particular campsite that most people prefer to stay at?
a quiet one
Thanks
Ian
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I'm also interested in a campsite for the K&SW or to put it another way, finding somewhere I can park a tent for a few hours on Friday night. It will be a last minute decision for me though as I'll need to be on top form to get round in time. The BCM will tell.
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I'll be driving down from Dorset - about 1 1/2 hours - before the start. If anyone wants a bed & travel from here early on the saturday morning let me know.
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Exeter Campsites and and Caravan Sites (http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/townlisting.asp?town=Exeter)
Clyst St Mary is probably closest.
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Panic over this increasing. It was such an easy ride to enter...
;)
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Panic over this increasing. It was such an easy ride to enter...
;)
At the finish of the BCM last night I said to Ian H that I was having doubts about riding and he said I have no choice as I'm registered. I guess the same applies to you so you're stuck with it.
It only took me 39h15 making it my slowest behind the first I finished which took 38h. Still, I got a few hours sleep in that. I can tell you that if I am riding fixed it will NOT be on a 71" gear. That was pushing it for me on the BCM and I've injured my left arm in the process.
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From Ian H’s website:
It is an event for experienced randonneurs who know how to pace themselves.
Bugger!
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Strangely enough after yesterday's BCM I'm actually looking forward to this next bout of masochism. No qualifying pressure !
Can you choose what to have on the back of the PBP medal? I'd love an SWAUK series on the back, and now that PaulD's Vorsprung's 400 counts ............
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Strangely enough after yesterday's BCM I'm actually looking forward to this next bout of masochism. No qualifying pressure !
Can you choose what to have on the back of the PBP medal? I'd love an SWAUK series on the back, and now that PaulD's Vorsprung's 400 counts ............
I think it's whatever you put down for your qualifying events when entering PBP.
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Has Sophie entered this?
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Strangely enough after yesterday's BCM I'm actually looking forward to this next bout of masochism. No qualifying pressure !
Can you choose what to have on the back of the PBP medal? I'd love an SWAUK series on the back, and now that PaulD's Vorsprung's 400 counts ............
I think it's whatever you put down for your qualifying events when entering PBP.
Heh heh heh. There’s an incentive to ride all 4 600s I’m planning to ride right there. :smug:
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Has Sophie entered this?
No one of that moniker.
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Are Dernys allowed on this one? Just asking.
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Sent two helpers off for an early ride this morning. Should be a nice weekend for them.
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Have the route sheets been sent out yet? I entered on line so would expect a mail to print out.
Looking forward to this. Been out for 100 mile ride today and feeling good.
BB
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You should have received an email today. Let me know if not.
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i haven't had an email, but notice the routesheet's been updated on the website http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/calroutes/KSW6002011.pdf so will be ok with that,
but just checking Ian, have you received my entry? (my audax no. is F9377). meant to enter, but may have forgot as it was fairly early on... :)
cheers
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I’ve not got one either, I entered in September. :)
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Not that I probably need one. I haven’t deleted the gpx, and I guess there are no substantive changes?
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Not that I probably need one. I haven’t deleted the gpx, and I guess there are no substantive changes?
the night control is in a different place i believe.
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i haven't had an email, but notice the routesheet's been updated on the website http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/calroutes/KSW6002011.pdf so will be ok with that,
but just checking Ian, have you received my entry? (my audax no. is F9377). meant to enter, but may have forgot as it was fairly early on... :)
cheers
Yes, you're in.
I've just re-sent the mailing. It appears the previous one failed, though I can't see why.
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Not that I probably need one. I haven’t deleted the gpx, and I guess there are no substantive changes?
the night control is in a different place i believe.
Yes, and there's no point in traipsing around Bude for a second time when the control is in Stratton. There's one other small tweak (near Hayle).
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No email here either. Dare I hope that I forgot to enter?
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No email yet.
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Pain in the arse. I've sent again with a different email client. You can download gpx and routesheet from ukcyclist.co.uk.
Meanwhile, Don's investigating ways of catering for larger numbers at Penzance. So there may be some last minute instructions.
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http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/calroutes/KSW6002011.pdf
Downloads - GPX files - Kernow and Southwest 600 (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/gps-file-downloads/view.download/3/5)
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Email (10:09) arrived.
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Here too. It's all starting to seem very real.
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Here too. It's all starting to seem very real.
I'm starting to worry about this now, and look forwards to it. Hopefully we won't get Irish Mail weather.
I assume you'll be on fixed Simon :demon:
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Yes. I wouldn't fear it on gears despite it being my slowest 600 - 39h15 - that I've not packed.
Still, I had the confidence last year to leave the sleep stop 1h OOT. Day two was pretty easy. Easier than day 2 of the BCM, perhaps.
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Yes. I wouldn't fear it on gears despite it being my slowest 600 - 39h15 - that I've not packed.
Still, I had the confidence last year to leave the sleep stop 1h OOT. Day two was pretty easy. Easier than day 2 of the BCM, perhaps.
There's nothing llike the hill through Llancloudy.
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There's nothing llike the hill through Llancloudy.
That climb up from the seaside on the last stage is harder than anything on the BCM600. I *think* that's all I walked.
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I managed everything except the YHA climb on 71". So 67" should be fine on this.
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Thinking about it some more, I am really looking forwards to this. No qualifying pressure, my favourite cycling counties, room booked at the end, no work to get to the day afterwards, Should get a running commentary at each control about the differences between riding it on gears vs fixed ;) And I still get to spend some time with MrsH on the BH Monday. All I need is to finish with enough time for a pint at the end & it'll be perfect.
Is it hilly ?
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The difficulty is the short sharp coastal climbs that pepper the route. Good training for the Mille Cymru. Not so much for PBP. I was told the Bude to Looe section would be hard, but I found the ride to Penzance more challenging; a head wind plus the coastal ups and downs. Though as Ian points out once you've passed St Austell it is much easier. Once you've got those bits out of the way it's a piece of piss until 30km from the finish when it all goes pear shaped again.
Just remembered my gpx was a bit mixed up on the night section. Must check that. Ended up on the wrong A road.
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Just read the Email Ian - is it possible to leave my car at the Whipton Community Hall during the ride?
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I managed everything except the YHA climb on 71". So 67" should be fine on this.
Did you get my email (along with Travelodge details)? 19T cog on offer to give you a 63" gear. I can bring it with me regardless...
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I managed everything except the YHA climb on 71". So 67" should be fine on this.
Did you get my email (along with Travelodge details)? 19T cog on offer to give you a 63" gear. I can bring it with me regardless...
Thanks for the offer - I was still thinking about it. I think I’m going to go for 67” but it might be useful to have a 19T cog as an emergency option should I realise it’s all too much. But given there are long flat sections generally I think gearing down to 63” would probably work out slower.
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Just fitted my 27 tooth cassette ready for the steep hills. Hope this enough to get me round without having to walk.
Hearing all this talk about fixed gear makes me feel like a softy.
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But given there are long flat sections generally I think gearing down to 63” would probably work out slower.
I'd say so. I rode it on 68 without any drama, my usual gear choice.
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Just fitted my 27 tooth cassette ready for the steep hills. Hope this enough to get me round without having to walk.
Hearing all this talk about fixed gear makes me feel like a softy.
My standard geared set-up is a triple with 27T sprocket, giving a 30/27 bottom gear. It didn’t feel like a soft option TBH. But with that gear there is nothing that would come close to walking required on this ride for a lightweight like me.
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But given there are long flat sections generally I think gearing down to 63” would probably work out slower.
I'd say so. I rode it on 68 without any drama, my usual gear choice.
Yeah, I expected as much. 67” it is.
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Shut up 'n ride yer bike... :demon:
See you all next Saturday eve in sunny PZ - haven't worked out where yet mind you.
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I'm grounded next Sunday so no ksw or beast for me.
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There is parking on the main road and probably on the old road behind and the residential roads nearby. Please be considerate wherever you park.
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In order to persuade the physio to allow* me to ride, I’m going to be looking at fitting aero bars, so I can rest my wrist a bit. The new forks make this much easier since they have a through bolt hole which I can mount the dynamo light on. Might be a bit of an issue with mounting the Philips LED light though.
* I could ignore her of course.
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Thinking about it some more, I am really looking forwards to this. No qualifying pressure, my favourite cycling counties, room booked at the end, no work to get to the day afterwards, Should get a running commentary at each control about the differences between riding it on gears vs fixed ;) And I still get to spend some time with MrsH on the BH Monday. All I need is to finish with enough time for a pint at the end & it'll be perfect.
Is it hilly ?
It is a great ride, normally blessed with good weather and extends your Wessex excursions to C***wall.
In a season of hilly rides, I can think of no finer excursion.
You'll love it.
H
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Weather forecast looks interesting.
Headwind to Penzance. Wind drops a bit but still a tailwind to Yeovil. Headwind to finish [you] off. Only a few showers or drizzle. 13oC top temp dropping to 8o overnight; perfect for cycling.
Of course, it'll change completely before Saturday. :)
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Just like last year. Perfect.
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I'm off to buy Crudracer mudguards and I'll forget to pack the suncream, that should sort it out.
P.S. One dodgy routesheet distance at the end, nothing serious though...
1st L Harts Lane 605k
SO main rd (trls)(cycle route) 606k
SO trls (no thro rd) 609k
Bear R no markings, thro bollards
Bear R grass island by houses
L at T on to main road 607.5k
FINISH on R Whipton Community Centre 608k
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Sorry if I missed this somewhere else Ian,
Is there safe left luggage (like a rucsac) at the start?
Bring on the 'wall! (http://youtu.be/-so-NVcRKv4)
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
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Ian, are you organising any kind of a bag drop for this? It occurred to me there would be nothing to stop me picking up bags in Exeter on the way to the Bude control for the night stop on my way past assuming there could be someone there at the time I'm passing.
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P.S. One dodgy routesheet distance at the end, nothing serious though...
SO trls (no thro rd) 609k
Sorry, should be -2 = 607k.
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Sorry if I missed this somewhere else Ian,
Is there safe left luggage (like a rucsac) at the start?
Bring on the 'wall! (http://youtu.be/-so-NVcRKv4)
I can't leave stuff at the hall. I can cope with a few small bags.
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Ian, are you organising any kind of a bag drop for this? It occurred to me there would be nothing to stop me picking up bags in Exeter on the way to the Bude control for the night stop on my way past assuming there could be someone there at the time I'm passing.
I haven't got room for vast amounts of luggage as the van will be full of mats, blankets and whatever else. I can cope with anyone who wants their own sleeping bag dropped. I don't really want to get involved with more than that.
I have to dash off to Bude once I've seen the riders off and I can't leave stuff at the hall, so it's probably easier to restrict to sleep stuff.
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I'll have my messenger bag with me. Can't leave it at the hotel.
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I'll have my messenger bag with me. Can't leave it at the hotel.
We'll sort it all out on the day...somehow.
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Weather forecast looks interesting.
Headwind to Penzance.
That's exactly what you want, heading back to Bude. :thumbsup:
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
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You should shortly receive an update to the routesheet. Pressure of numbers means that Don's house might get a little crowded, so he's booked a hall in Long Rock to look after you all.
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You should shortly receive an update to the routesheet. Pressure of numbers means that Don's house might get a little crowded, so he's booked a hall in Long Rock to look after you all.
How many starters?
Sounds like there might be a crowd.
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Don't worry I will be at the 2nd Bude control to look after you all. All I need to do is learn how to cook between now an Saturday LOL! ;D
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You should shortly receive an update to the routesheet. Pressure of numbers means that Don's house might get a little crowded, so he's booked a hall in Long Rock to look after you all.
How many starters?
Sounds like there might be a crowd.
Likely to be 30. Which is a record for this event
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Don't worry I will be at the 2nd Bude control to look after you all. All I need to do is learn how to cook between now an Saturday LOL! ;D
Fresh Devon eggs will be on the menu*, but you might not want Feline to cook them for you. ;)
*with other choices.
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Don't worry I will be at the 2nd Bude control to look after you all. All I need to do is learn how to cook between now an Saturday LOL! ;D
Fresh Devon eggs will be on the menu*, but you might not want Feline to cook them for you. ;)
*with other choices.
Hehe, cooking is not my forte, but I am more than prepared to do my best on this occasion ;)
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Don't worry I will be at the 2nd Bude control to look after you all. All I need to do is learn how to cook between now an Saturday LOL! ;D
:o
Do you really want to be manning a control on a 600 a few weeks before your first? It isn't pretty.
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
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Don't worry I will be at the 2nd Bude control to look after you all. All I need to do is learn how to cook between now an Saturday LOL! ;D
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Do you really want to be manning a control on a 600 a few weeks before your first? It isn't pretty.
I figure that I have been on the beneficiary end of a whole heap of audax volunteers over the past 12 months. I owe something in return ;D
I am also remarkably good at sleep deprivation and patience in extremis so maybe it's my bag ;D
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In case anyone is wondering what the new control in the Penzance suburbs looks like, I think I found it here (http://goo.gl/BCghs)
Lucky for my my knee is not better so I'm going to have to pass on seeing it person :( But I can lend a tandem + working stoker, if anyone wants to increase their enjoyment of the ride ;)
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Hi I'm really looking forward to this, probably because I've never done it before...
I'm getting train down to Exeter from London to arrive about 5/6pm, settle into Travelodge with Bianchi Boy, then get out on the town for a sport of dinner and a couple of restorative sharpeners... where do folk traditionally meet up before this ride to observe such rituals?
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Hi I'm really looking forward to this, probably because I've never done it before...
I'm getting train down to Exeter from London to arrive about 5/6pm, settle into Travelodge with Bianchi Boy, then get out on the town for a sport of dinner and a couple of restorative sharpeners... where do folk traditionally meet up before this ride to observe such rituals?
All I remember about going on the lash in Devon is not to tell them you're from Dorset. A particularly eventful 40th birthday weekend in 2006 IIRC. Not mine I hasten to add.
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
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... then get out on the town for a sport of dinner and a couple of restorative sharpeners... where do folk traditionally meet up before this ride to observe such rituals?
'course, I meant a spot of dinner... not looking for sport of any kind on Friday night, Freudian slip that...
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
As helper on the day, that's my job ;)
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If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
Given the Postie / Hummers / TOBY / Paul D love wrangles playing out through these pages I think the next instalment of the soap opera can wait awhile.
Anyway, I'd expect flowers and some serious wining and dining first.
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;D
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
As helper on the day, that's my job ;)
simonp's getting neutered?
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
As helper on the day, that's my job ;)
simonp's getting neutered?
I seriously doubt it :)
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Hi I'm really looking forward to this, probably because I've never done it before...
I'm getting train down to Exeter from London to arrive about 5/6pm, settle into Travelodge with Bianchi Boy, then get out on the town for a sport of dinner and a couple of restorative sharpeners... where do folk traditionally meet up before this ride to observe such rituals?
All I remember about going on the lash in Devon is not to tell them you're from Dorset. A particularly eventful 40th birthday weekend in 2006 IIRC. Not mine I hasten to add.
Or worse still, that you come from C***wall.
You'll love it Richard :thumbsup:.
H
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You should shortly receive an update to the routesheet. Pressure of numbers means that Don's house might get a little crowded, so he's booked a hall in Long Rock to look after you all.
How many starters?
Sounds like there might be a crowd.
Likely to be 30. Which is a record for this event
It's how many finish that count. IIRC it was about 6 out of 14 in 2009 when I rode it. This event sorts out the Crowes from the Brands.
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Didn't seem that high a DNF rate last year. About 3 DNFs maybe? Was it a particularly easy year?
I'm going to be reprising my Bradley Wiggins lookalike schtick.
Hey, Ian, have you arranged for there to be lots of girlies riding over from Bude to some other place to give us something to look at again?
(There may have been some blokes too).
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You should shortly receive an update to the routesheet. Pressure of numbers means that Don's house might get a little crowded, so he's booked a hall in Long Rock to look after you all.
How many starters?
Sounds like there might be a crowd.
Likely to be 30. Which is a record for this event
It's how many finish that count. IIRC it was about 6 out of 14 in 2009 when I rode it. This event sorts out the Crowes from the Brands.
3 out of 7 starters in 2006 with about 15 entries IIRC.
I understand the finish rate is higher these days.
H
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Think my wrist is fixed.
Bugger.
:facepalm:
I bet you were secretly enjoying using the other hand though.
H
I thought the symptoms were that he lost all feeling in the affected limb. Win Win really.
If you're going to be there, maybe you could lend a hand?
As helper on the day, that's my job ;)
simonp's getting neutered?
The effect of riding 600km on a Brooks B17 is not dissimilar. ::-)
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Saw the physio today and she was against the riding. Bah.
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In case anyone is wondering what the new control in the Penzance suburbs looks like, I think I found it here (http://goo.gl/BCghs)
Thanks, that's quite helpful.
The joyful and practical anticipation period for this special occasion has started - I began converting my tourer into an audax bike (this year's audaxes so far didn't need gears but this one is different).
How many people have entered? 30! More chances to find a suitable companion. This is going to be big ... (okokay, I didn't do the BCM this year)
(Note to myself: Must not forget to transfer the amended route to my GPS.)
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SimonP
Come & ride the Beast from the east.
Compared to this one it must be flat.....................
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Yeah, that's the Long Rock Memorial Institute - a hut, basically.
On the plus side, it does have heating/plenty of seating/a loo, and saves you the 8km round trip to the usual control at my gaff. Train station is 3km down the road for those who've had enough by this point... ;D
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SimonP
Come & ride the Beast from the east.
Compared to this one it must be flat.....................
You poaching my riders, Mr A? ;)
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This organizing lark is clearly a cut-throat business.
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I see, the sleep stop has also moved from downtown Bude to the suburbs. Here is a google streetview of what I believe is the new sleep stop. (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=union+hill,+bude&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=11.2274,37.089844&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Union+Hill,+Bude+EX23+9,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.829368,-4.516003&spn=0.002928,0.013143&z=17&layer=c&cbll=50.829333,-4.51615&panoid=f8KMwiDlKkwfDqlirT_OOA&cbp=12,170.34,,0,9.79)
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SimonP
Come & ride the Beast from the east.
Compared to this one it must be flat.....................
You poaching my riders, Mr A? ;)
5 Star,
Just trying to look after the chaps wrist
Cyclists seldom listen to phisio advice
So thst 2200m less climb might help
Having ridden it last weeked I don't think it will help much!
Maybe I should enlist your DNS as a helper.............
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This organizing lark is clearly a cut-throat business.
It often comes down to track-pumps at dawn. You'll find there's a whole section of regs dealing with it.
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5 Star,
Just trying to look after the chaps wrist
Cyclists seldom listen to phisio advice
So thst 2200m less climb might help
Having ridden it last weeked I don't think it will help much!
Maybe I should enlist your DNS as a helper.............
There are about four so far. I'm still after help for the finish.
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I see, the sleep stop has also moved from downtown Bude to the suburbs. Here is a google streetview of what I believe is the new sleep stop. (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=union+hill,+bude&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=11.2274,37.089844&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Union+Hill,+Bude+EX23+9,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.829368,-4.516003&spn=0.002928,0.013143&z=17&layer=c&cbll=50.829333,-4.51615&panoid=f8KMwiDlKkwfDqlirT_OOA&cbp=12,170.34,,0,9.79)
That's the one.
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
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is this an nhs physio that's said this, or a private one?
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
and you think this problem won't return after another night alone in a Travelodge?
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
and you think this problem won't return after another night alone in a Travelodge?
He won't be alone...
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
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is this an nhs physio that's said this, or a private one?
Private.
NHS waiting list is something like 3 months last time I checked.
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
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is this an nhs physio that's said this, or a private one?
Private.
NHS waiting list is something like 3 months last time I checked.
Best ask for an appointment for various aches and sprains to be acquired in August now!
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
and you think this problem won't return after another night alone in a Travelodge?
He won't be alone...
safety in numbers
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Hi I'm really looking forward to this, probably because I've never done it before...
I'm getting train down to Exeter from London to arrive about 5/6pm, settle into Travelodge with Bianchi Boy, then get out on the town for a sport of dinner and a couple of restorative sharpeners... where do folk traditionally meet up before this ride to observe such rituals?
All I remember about going on the lash in Devon is not to tell them you're from Dorset. A particularly eventful 40th birthday weekend in 2006 IIRC. Not mine I hasten to add.
Or worse still, that you come from C***wall.
You'll love it Richard :thumbsup:.
H
Or just as bad a "wrong spreader"!
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Just looked at the last PBP year. There were only 5 riders who finished - how many DNF and DNS?
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
:facepalm:
The thing is generally I'm in better shape physically than the night before the BCM when my arm was aching. That's fixed now.
and you think this problem won't return after another night alone in a Travelodge?
That's a good point.
I don't think they have PPV TV down in Exeter as it stops at Bristol. :-\
Simon, best to pack a couple of extra copies of Arivee that you haven't read for a while.
Laminating the pages is a good idea.
So I am told.
H
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Just looked at the last PBP year. There were only 5 riders who finished - how many DNF and DNS?
Couldn't say offhand, and it would take a lot of effort to find the start list. DNF rate has varied from nil to over half - but with a generally small field it's a bit random.
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
YES!
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This evening my task is to venture into the roof space of my house in search of air beds, blankets and pillows for Saturday. Wish me luck ...
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
YES!
;D
I was advised to try out not using the splint today. The splint was what was keeping me free of pain before, and today’s the first try for not using it. I went without for a couple of hours before lunch, and have had it off again since mid afternoon.
I’m not in any discomfort in my wrist. Including while typing this post. So now I’m going to mow the lawn while I wait for Mr Ocado. Once he’s been, I’m going for a bike ride to see what happens. First time on a bike since Monday last week, when it was painful especially when pulling on the bars.
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Mr Ocado just called to say he’s running early. And here he is! Saved from mowing the lawn!
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Not sure at the moment.
Conversation last week: don't ride your bike at all, skip this weekend's event, and we'll see if we can get you ready for next weekend.
This week: do you really think it's a good idea to ride a 600k this weekend.
YES!
;D
I was advised to try out not using the splint today. The splint was what was keeping me free of pain before, and today’s the first try for not using it. I went without for a couple of hours before lunch, and have had it off again since mid afternoon.
I’m not in any discomfort in my wrist. Including while typing this post. So now I’m going to mow the lawn while I wait for Mr Ocado. Once he’s been, I’m going for a bike ride to see what happens. First time on a bike since Monday last week, when it was painful especially when pulling on the bars.
bloody rampant!
at least it'll be resting your wrist.
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Sound logic there. I can type without pain, therefore riding 600 hilly kms should be OK. That's like von B's: If this welded bike can get a km back to Rhayadr square, it can cope with 500 more. So it must be right.
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I'm out. It just makes things so much easier for the family if I don't ride this year.
Anyone want a Cambridge-Exeter ticket before I move it to another date?
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Sound logic there. I can type without pain, therefore riding 600 hilly kms should be OK. That's like von B's: If this welded bike can get a km back to Rhayadr square, it can cope with 500 more. So it must be right.
Well, I was instructed to test how typing was without the splint as an initial view of how well it had settled. I was really struggling with typing a week ago.
I’ve just done a 40k ride. Inconclusive: slightly uncomfortable at times on the inside of the wrist joint, but not painful. A little bit uncomfortable at the back of the wrist immediately after I stopped. That’s settled now. Icing it and see how it is in the morning.
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Have you got a suitable geared bike Simon? Once these things start to flare up they can get worse pretty quickly. With gears and tri-bars, you could take the pressure off, or even do a few miles one-handed at the first sign of trouble.
I had a very similar thing rowing years ago, and fixed it by switching sides for a couple of months.
IMO FWIW
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I have a geared bike but it’s in need of fettling.
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My "plan" (Mrs GB likes to know roughly where/when I'm expected to be somewhere).
Dist Limit Expected
Exeter 0km
Bude 81km 11.24 10.00 30 min stop at Bude
Looe 148km 15.52 15.30 Leak time away! 30 min stop at Looe
Penzance 242km 22.08 20.45 Max 1 hour stop with plenty of food.
Stratton 363km 06.12 03.45 Sleep stop, leave at 6am
Taunton 477km 13.48 12.00 Bit slower on day 2. 1 hour stop for food at Taunton
West Coker 524km 16.56 15.30 Slowing down, 45min stop at West Coker if reqd.
Seaton 570km 20.00 19.00 Still slow. 45min stop at Seaton if reqd.
Finish 602km 22.00 21.00
I'd leave the sleep stop at 6am at the latest, so getting there at 3.45am gives me at least an hour of sleep.
Generous on the way back with a moving average below 20kph. Will try to keep it to under 7 hours stopped.
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I got there at 2am and left after 7am last year. Well OOT. Stopped for a roadside fettle soon after. Arrived Taunton well in time.
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My "plan" (Mrs GB likes to know roughly where/when I'm expected to be somewhere).
Dist Limit Expected
Penzance 242km 22.08 20.45 Max 1 hour stop with plenty of food.
I'd aim to get to chez AikenDrum in Penzance sooner than 8:45pm
I don't have my card(s) in front of me but ISTR that successful attempts leave there before 7pm and the unsuccessful one didn't
If you like fried food then stop at the official control cafe at Looe. If you don't then buy a couple of pasties from one of the many pasty shops and eat them on the ferry at Fowey
I see that the weather forecast is still giving out for a nice tailwind on the Atlantic highway back to Bude
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I've packed once and completed once, its a grand ride and I remember the joy I felt seeing Exeter in the distance (mostly downhill from this point) then the joy fading as I realised I had 20 minutes to finish the ride...I've never pushed so hard and finished with just 4 minutes in hand...
If I can do it with stupid Suffolk legs anyone can.
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I left there after 8 IIRC. I was some way behind my intended schedule. Tail wind all the way to Yeovil FTW. :)
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My 300 had two people finishing with a minute to spare and two of us standing in the road willing them to arrive in time: That's not a car light...It's a bike...He's done it!...There's two!... they've both made it!..
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My "plan" (Mrs GB likes to know roughly where/when I'm expected to be somewhere).
Dist Limit Expected
Penzance 242km 22.08 20.45 Max 1 hour stop with plenty of food.
I'd aim to get to chez AikenDrum in Penzance sooner than 8:45pm
I don't have my card(s) in front of me but ISTR that successful attempts leave there before 7pm and the unsuccessful one didn't
Cause, effect, complicated business. If you arrive at 7pm having ridden deliberately easy, you'll have better odds of a finish than if arriving at 7pm on the ragged edge.
GB seems quite good at these schedule things.
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... If you arrive at 7pm having ridden deliberately easy....
Hmm, I'm not sure that that is possible on this ride. The bit between Bude 1st time and Penzance is fairly manic.
Hope GB's schedule works for him. I need more than an hours sleep at Bude to do day two
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... If you arrive at 7pm having ridden deliberately easy....
Hmm, I'm not sure that that is possible on this ride. The bit between Bude 1st time and Penzance is fairly manic.
It's a lumpy ride until you get to St Austell, then it becomes easier. Riders might lose time between Bude and Looe, but they make it up on the way to Penzance (assuming they haven't utterly stuffed themselves by trying too hard on the second leg).
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I've packed once and completed once, its a grand ride and I remember the joy I felt seeing Exeter in the distance (mostly downhill from this point) then the joy fading as I realised I had 20 minutes to finish the ride...I've never pushed so hard and finished with just 4 minutes in hand...
If I can do it with stupid Suffolk legs anyone can.
That's the spirit. I see no need to create a macho image around this ride. It deserves respect but it is worth remembering that only a quarter of the ride is really challenging (by that I mean the 100km from Bude to St Austell and the last 30km from Seaton). Personally, I think it is a good strategy to take it easy on the Bude to St Austell leg. Being slow on that stretch could mean finishing earlier...
Just checked last year's card and this is what I got.
Exeter 6.15
Bude 81km 9.45
Looe 148km 13.40
Penz. 248km 19.45
Bude 372km 1.48
Taunton 488km 11.04
Yeovil 534km 13.50
Seaton 580km 16.06
Finish 616km 18.08
Hence it is not a must to leave Don's place the Long Rock Memorial Institute before 7pm as suggested here by vorsprung, on the contrary...
I'd aim to get to chez AikenDrum in Penzance sooner than 8:45pm
I don't have my card(s) in front of me but ISTR that successful attempts leave there before 7pm and the unsuccessful one didn't
If you like fried food then stop at the official control cafe at Looe. If you don't then buy a couple of pasties from one of the many pasty shops and eat them on the ferry at Fowey
I see that the weather forecast is still giving out for a nice tailwind on the Atlantic highway back to Bude
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My "plan" (Mrs GB likes to know roughly where/when I'm expected to be somewhere).
Dist Limit Expected
Exeter 0km
Bude 81km 11.24 10.00 30 min stop at Bude
Looe 148km 15.52 15.30 Leak time away! 30 min stop at Looe
Penzance 242km 22.08 20.45 Max 1 hour stop with plenty of food.
Stratton 363km 06.12 03.45 Sleep stop, leave at 6am
Taunton 477km 13.48 12.00 Bit slower on day 2. 1 hour stop for food at Taunton
West Coker 524km 16.56 15.30 Slowing down, 45min stop at West Coker if reqd.
Seaton 570km 20.00 19.00 Still slow. 45min stop at Seaton if reqd.
Finish 602km 22.00 21.00
I'd leave the sleep stop at 6am at the latest, so getting there at 3.45am gives me at least an hour of sleep.
Generous on the way back with a moving average below 20kph. Will try to keep it to under 7 hours stopped.
That's not significantly different from my timings back in 2006. I got into Bude around 3am and managed about 1.5hrs sleep, setting off at 6am again.
Finished with about 1.5 hrs in hand in the end.
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Finished with about 1.5 hrs in hand in the end.
H
After lingering in his beloved Cornwall.
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Yeah, there's no need to rush off from the PZ control too early. Just stoke up and enjoy the express train tailwind to Bude. My top tip: don't have a sit down feed in Looe (which is a touristy hellhole) - save it for St Austell (which is just a hellhole, but without a bloody big hill to climb). Launceston to Liskeard is the hardest part of stage two, and the hardest part of the whole ride IMHO - just take it easy.
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I'm trying to remember where the nice cafe I've been to before is in Snozzle. I might have a play around with Google Streetview...
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My 300 had two people finishing with a minute to spare and two of us standing in the road willing them to arrive in time: That's not a car light...It's a bike...He's done it!...There's two!... they've both made it!..
:)
I also decided at this moment to wait one more year before doing the K&SW !
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Dist Limit Expected
Exeter 0km
Bude 81km 11.24 10.00 30 min stop at Bude
Looe 148km 15.52 15.30 Leak time away! 30 min stop at Looe
Penzance 242km 22.08 20.45 Max 1 hour stop with plenty of food.
Stratton 363km 06.12 03.45 Sleep stop, leave at 6am
Taunton 477km 13.48 12.00 Bit slower on day 2. 1 hour stop for food at Taunton
West Coker 524km 16.56 15.30 Slowing down, 45min stop at West Coker if reqd.
Seaton 570km 20.00 19.00 Still slow. 45min stop at Seaton if reqd.
Finish 602km 22.00 21.00
There's no great science to it:-
06.00 start
10.00 arrive at Bude (81km in 4 hours = 20kph)
10.30 leave Bude
15.30 arrive at Looe (hilly so 67km in 5 hours = 13.4kph), quick stop to buy pasties to eat on ferry, grab other food in Snozzle
20.45 arrive at Penzance (hilly to Snozzle, 94km in 5h15 = 17.9kph)
21.45 leave Penzance after food and a bit of a rest
03.45 arrive at Stratton (121km in 6 hours = 20kph) sleep stop
06.00 leave Stratton
12.00 arrive at Taunton (114km in 6 hours = 19kph), 1 hour stop for food
13.00 leave Taunton
15.30 arrive West Coker (47km in 2.5 hours = 18.8kph), 45 min stop if necessary
16.15 leave West Coker
19.00 arrive Seaton (46km in 2.5 hours = 18.4kph), 45 min stop if necessary
19.45 leave Seaton
21.00 arrive Finish (hilly last bit, 32km in 2.25 hours = 14.2kph)
I've overestimated the difficulty of Bude -> Looe, and possibly underestimated the Looe->Penzance leg, but they should even out.
There's no guarantee that I'll stick to this, but that's how I see it panning out given what I've read and how slow I'm feeling right now.
Makes it seem easy doesn't it though...
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I should have a tracklog showing how long each stage took me.
I wouldn't worry about the headwind on the ride to Penzance from Looe. Plenty of hills to shelter behind.
;)
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21.45 leave Penzance after food and a bit of a rest
03.45 arrive at Stratton (121km in 6 hours = 20kph) sleep stop
(...)
I've overestimated the difficulty of Bude -> Looe, and possibly underestimated the Looe->Penzance leg, but they should even out.
(...)
The (maybe) surprising thing for me was that the fastest leg of the whole ride (an overall average of 24km/h, incl. the time I lost/won due to Aiken Drum's outstanding hospitality) was the night section Penzance-Bude , partly due to BenT and another rider plus a strong tailwind...
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On which stages do you plan to get punctures ;)
Reading this thread is vaguely interesting, even though I'm not doing the ride. Mainly because those doing it for the first time seem to have the same fears as I did last year, when I did K&SW for the first (and I hope not only) time. I went into it worrying about how difficult it might be, given my less than svelte build. It turned out to be no more difficult that the Bryan Chapman Scenic. The main difference was that there is more navigation (I should have used a GPS as I got lost a couple of times), more skog filled lanes (so more chance of punctures), more potential for unavoidable delays (such as the ferry) and more traffic around the main towns on the route (although less than I expected around Penzance and Exeter).
That said, the schedule looks sensible (or at least it would work for me). The Seaton stage might be a bit slower than you expect (but the first stage to Bude makes up for it - I think all, or at least most, of the field averaged 25kph or more last year).
For all that, it's a great, memorable 600 in a beautiful part of the country. One of a handful of audax rides I'd say everyone should attempt at least once.
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so is anyone meeting up for dinner on Friday night? do be so good to tell me where... ta :thumbsup:
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Hang on I think I've spotted an error green bank, if you leave seaton at 1945 and it takes 2 and a quarter hours, youre arriving at 2200, not 2100....just one to bear in mind while relaxing over scampi and chips :)
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so is anyone meeting up for dinner on Friday night? do be so good to tell me where... ta :thumbsup:
I get there about 9:15 on the train. Bit late for a pint given the early rise the following day.
See you there
BB
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so is anyone meeting up for dinner on Friday night? do be so good to tell me where... ta :thumbsup:
I'm getting in at a 1/4 to eight and staying at the YHA in Countess Weir, probably a bit late for you if you're in at 6ish.
I'll be eating a lonely Chinese/Indian in the YHA if that tempts you?
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I'll be eating a lonely Chinese/Indian in the YHA
Will he/she be in the next bunk?
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I have decided not to ride, and help instead.
Typically, now than I have made this decision, my wrist has improved.
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I have decided not to ride, and help instead.
Typically, now than I have made this decision, my wrist has improved.
You can still change your mind.
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I have decided not to ride, and help instead.
Typically, now than I have made this decision, my wrist has improved.
You can still change your mind.
No, it’s just taunting me. As soon as I try to be sensible, it acts all nice. But I can still see and feel a slight bulge over the tendons (where they intersect) in my left forearm, so I am not going to be duped that easily.
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Exeter - Bude 84.2 km Depart 05:59:50 arrive 09:17:31 26 kph
Bude - Looe 66.9 km Depart 09:53:57 arrive 13:07:08 21 kph
Looe - Penzance 97.5 km Depart 14:43:01 arrive 19:20:00 17 kph (Ferry, food stop)
Penzance - Bude 130 km Depart 20:07:25 arrive 02:07:06 22 kph (Info confusion, food stop)
Bude - Taunton 118 km Depart 07:40:10 arrive 13:37:44 20 kph (Three short stops - fettle, petrol station, bench in Tiverton)
Taunton - Yeovil 45.7 km Depart 14:00:31 arrive 16:17:55 20 kph (Bus shelter stop)
Yeovil - Seaton 45.2 km Depart 16:32:16 arrive 18:42:49 21 kph
Seaton - Exeter 35.7 km Depart 18:43:39 arrive 21:05:40 15 kph (Stopped at chippy)
Hopefully this is useful. Though note the slower stages were as much because of food stops as anything else.
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hmm, not sure about this ride now. yesterday i felt cold virus symptoms and took some extreme measures to prevent the virus knocking me out. my body and joints are still aching, but a good thing is that i'm not getting worse. my mrs (a doc) is strongly against me riding 600, but i'll see how i feel tomorrow. i don't want this ride to be my first dns/dnf. fingers x'ed.
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I have decided not to ride, and help instead.
Hills by Hennessey
Food by Feline
Sympathy by Simon ???
I'll be doing my GPX & examining the route properly tonight. Time to start looking at the weather as well. Hope you feel up to it zigzag.
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I have decided not to ride, and help instead.
Hills by Hennessey
Food by Feline
Sympathy by Simon ???
Plus a cast of thousands dozens quite a few.
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Hmm. This ride is probably the most-over-distance 600k I've done. Minimum speed to get round in 40h, going by the 624km on the route on Bikely, is about 15.6kph.
If the sleep stop is at 363km and I left there at 07:40, that control on a 15.6kph speed is 05:16am. So I left it with 2h24 to make up to get back on schedule, apparently.
Those 8km saved by moving the Penzance control give you effectively an extra half-hour.
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hmm, not sure about this ride now. yesterday i felt cold virus symptoms and took some extreme measures to prevent the virus knocking me out. my body and joints are still aching, but a good thing is that i'm not getting worse. my mrs (a doc) is strongly against me riding 600, but i'll see how i feel tomorrow. i don't want this ride to be my first dns/dnf. fingers x'ed.
Mr ZigZag,
I had a virus in late April 2010. Rode the BC (where we rode to the end together) and had the worst cycling day of my life. I had felt that I had been over the virus since the Monday and rode on the Saturday. I was not right for the next six weeks and I thought my cycling year was over. You have stressed your body a lot (marathon, BC and BCM). What do you stand to get out of the ride? If you are riding PBP will finishing this ride make any difference? I suggest that it only will if you should not have done it. Your fitness must be good and a couple of down weeks will not effect the overall objective of PBP.
There again if KSW is a major objective then it might be worth it.
After my experience last year I will have to think long and hard about when to start riding again after a virus.
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Hmm. This ride is probably the most-over-distance 600k I've done.
The new routesheet says 602km.
Are these special Kernow kilometers?
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Hmm. This ride is probably the most-over-distance 600k I've done.
The new routesheet says 602km.
Are these special Kernow kilometers?
My track was also 624km but I had a little bit extra in Newquay because of the info control. Also the gps going for a walk when indoors.
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Hmm. This ride is probably the most-over-distance 600k I've done.
The new routesheet says 602km.
Are these special Kernow kilometers?
Savings from moving Bude and Penzance controls.
I don't guarantee cumulative accuracy greater than +/-5km.
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Savings from moving Bude and Penzance controls.
I don't guarantee cumulative accuracy greater than +/-5km.
So it could be 597km and get rejected as a PBP qualifier? :-[
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Savings from moving Bude and Penzance controls.
I don't guarantee cumulative accuracy greater than +/-5km.
So it could be 597km and get rejected as a PBP qualifier? :-[
[splutter!]
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My recorded track was 624km.
Some of that will be down to the gps wandering around at controls. I tried adding the numbers from my earlier post but got 643km so I've made a mistake there. The gpx file is at home so I can't check that just now. In that file, I've removed all the control-wanderings so it should bring the distance down slightly. I also added a little distance by taking a wrong turn on the night stage, and by getting a bit confused in Newquay.
Ian's GPX track is 612km; so with the route changes (not in this file) I'd expect it still to be >600k.
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Ian's GPX track is 612km; so with the route changes (not in this file) I'd expect it still to be >600k.
That one's created on a map, not live. I presume it should be more accurate as to verifiable distance.
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If you finish it,it will feel like a 600 or poss more even if it is less.Me and Don didn't because of my stupidity.Thanks for getting out the bed Ian very sorry it was a wasted trip.
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Sorry but no Buzards last weeekend.jm.
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Nowt to do with stupidity John - we were just being slack (well I was!).
Top tip no 2: Try to avoid any 600 that allows you to pop home half way around. It's far too easy to have a nice shower/feed/change of kit and then start thinking: "I could just park my arse on the sofa with a beer", and before you know it... ;D
I'll probably do the perm next month (starting from PZ) by way of atonement.
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There's a perm?
You should not have told me that.
:facepalm:
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Ian's GPX track is 612km; so with the route changes (not in this file) I'd expect it still to be >600k.
That one's created on a map, not live. I presume it should be more accurate as to verifiable distance.
Another source of discrepancy is terrain distance. :demon:
Though doubt mapsource is computing that for my track.
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There's a perm?
You should not have told me that.
:facepalm:
I'm tempted to have a go as a perm a little later, as is someone else I know.
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Bet there's not many Bus shelters on this, Baby! ;D
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Last year, I snoozed for an hour or so in a rather well proportioned bus shelter on the A39 to Bude...
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I had a break in a bus shelter on day 2, but more because my sun cream said stay out of the sun for 15 minutes after applying it. It was very nice, if a bit dusty.
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Bet there's not many Bus shelters on this, Baby! ;D
There's one way to find out.
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I had a break in a bus shelter on day 2, but more because my sun cream said stay out of the sun for 15 minutes after applying it. It was very nice, if a bit dusty.
Sound's as if it's Nuke proof! (Sun cream not bus shelter) :o
Found Bude, looks as if it's the other side of the world from Sussex!
Last time I was nr it was in 86 doing end to end.
What's the route..
MJ
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Bet there's not many Bus shelters on this, Baby! ;D
There's one way to find out.
Go on street view.. ;D
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Bet there's not many Bus shelters on this, Baby! ;D
There's one way to find out.
[Harry Hill]
Fiiiiight? ???
[/Harry Hill]
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What's the route..
MJ
All info here: www.ukcyclist.co.uk/ksw600
Including entry form.
Perm version here: Permanent Events (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/perms)
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running a temperature again.. train tickets booked, accomodation arranged, bike cleaned and lubed, kit sorted, gps ready - what to do?!! so frustrated as i haven't been sick for two years - why now?.. i could probably ride a stage or two, but what's the point.. currently my body aches just being alive.
good thing that i've breezed through qualifiers already and kind of secured the place for pbp. but k&sw was supposed to be a crowning ride and i was expecting a smashing weekend on a bike. i'll probably still show up at the start, even if just to say hello.
sorry for the moan, it's too hard to accept that i'm not doing this ride.. all i want to do now is :'(
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My wrist is really taking the piss. The one thing that was still painful yesterday is not painful now.
Only evidence of anything left is the area over the intersection of the tendons is still showing some swelling. Bet that'll be gone by Saturday.
zigzag: I'm sure you know will not make it round if you feel that bad, and you risk doing yourself serious harm if you try.
Come and ride it as a perm with me (except I'll be slower than you) in early July. :demon:
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Ride it at a mere mortals pace, not a zigzag pace.
Seriously though, if you are determined to start then take it easy and see how you go.
I don't feel much like it at the moment, which seems to be becoming the norm.50k to warm up, 50k to get my head around what I am actually doing then I should be OK. I hope.
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What's the route..
MJ
All info here: Kernow and Southwest 600 (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/ksw600)
Including entry form.
Perm version here: Permanent Events (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/perms)
Make a good week’s tour! Good to see the Coast and Coach rds still there as a perm. Mad Hatter 100 and valley of the rocks sound great.
Do I get extra brownie points for bigging these up Sir.. ;)
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running a temperature again.. train tickets booked, accomodation arranged, bike cleaned and lubed, kit sorted, gps ready - what to do?!! so frustrated as i haven't been sick for two years - why now?.. i could probably ride a stage or two, but what's the point.. currently my body aches just being alive.
If you have the same post-BCM600 bug as I have then I really wouldn't. I thought only really bad hangovers could make you feel this bad whilst still not having much wrong with you. This has been going on 10 days now.
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running a temperature again.. train tickets booked, accomodation arranged, bike cleaned and lubed, kit sorted, gps ready - what to do?!! so frustrated as i haven't been sick for two years - why now?.. i could probably ride a stage or two, but what's the point.. currently my body aches just being alive.
good thing that i've breezed through qualifiers already and kind of secured the place for pbp. but k&sw was supposed to be a crowning ride and i was expecting a smashing weekend on a bike. i'll probably still show up at the start, even if just to say hello.
sorry for the moan, it's too hard to accept that i'm not doing this ride.. all i want to do now is :'(
Much as I want everyone to ride, if you're running a temperature, feeling flu-ish, you could do yourself permanent damage. See what tomorrow brings.
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Do I get extra brownie points for bigging these up Sir.. ;)
No. Only for riding them...reminds me I must register the Old Roads 300 as a perm.
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<butts in>
As you're both fairly close to the Topsham end of Exeter I can recommend the Beijing Topsham Fryer for Chinese and fish and chips (takeaway only) and Denley's Essence of India (takeaway and eat in). Both are on Topsham High Street, and IMO the food from both is better than many of the restaurants in Exeter city centre.
<butts back out>
so is anyone meeting up for dinner on Friday night? do be so good to tell me where... ta :thumbsup:
I'm getting in at a 1/4 to eight and staying at the YHA in Countess Weir, probably a bit late for you if you're in at 6ish.
I'll be eating a lonely Chinese/Indian in the YHA if that tempts you?
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If you have the same post-BCM600 bug as I have then I really wouldn't. I thought only really bad hangovers could make you feel this bad whilst still not having much wrong with you. This has been going on 10 days now.
i was feeling alright after bcm600, could feel the fatigue until wednesday, but since last thursday raced to/from work as usual. what i suspect though is that lots of excertion combined with crap diet afterwards (chocolate instead of proper food) weakened my immune system and made me an easy target for a cold virus.
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valley of the rocks sound great
If Carlsberg did audax routes........
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Good news: The Happy Clappies have moved on, so the finish can be opened a little earlier. That doesn't mean you can't have a good night's sleep and leave Stratton at a sensible hour Sunday morning.
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Do I risk the Fulcrum Racing 5 front wheel or shall I go find an Open Pro front from one of the other bikes...
Hmm...
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So checking my recorded track:
- I added 4km in Newquay because I couldn't find the info
- I added 2-3km on the night stage for a wrong turn
- I added 0.5km just after the ferry due to a wrong turn
- I added 200m in Seaton finding a cash point
The track is 623.1km so taking off 7-8km brings it down to 615, which is only 3km different to IanH's track.
The moral is: don't get lost.
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Do I risk the Fulcrum Racing 5 front wheel or shall I go find an Open Pro front from one of the other bikes...
Hmm...
The roads are all pretty good
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Do I risk the Fulcrum Racing 5 front wheel or shall I go find an Open Pro front from one of the other bikes...
Hmm...
The roads are all pretty good
Thanks. I did have a brief thought against using it for a long ride but I checked my photos of the Snowdon & Coast 400 last year and I'd used it then. Now only 600 different things to worry about...
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<butts in>
As you're both fairly close to the Topsham end of Exeter I can recommend the Beijing Topsham Fryer for Chinese and fish and chips (takeaway only) and Denley's Essence of India (takeaway and eat in). Both are on Topsham High Street, and IMO the food from both is better than many of the restaurants in Exeter city centre.
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thanks Baggy for butting in with useful info, I will be in Topsham which looks like a top place for curry here http://www.denleysessenceofindia.co.uk/ (http://www.denleysessenceofindia.co.uk/) they are not answering phone right now, I will phone later ask if they can take my bike inside
phone me on 07950 444 070 if any you lot care to join me... if not, c u 2mrw as my kids wd txt
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I'm cheating and going light (by my standards)...
(http://www.greenbank.org/misc/IMG_1267_small.jpg)
12.6kg with all luggage attached but empty bottles. So 14.1kg with two full bidons.
Crud Roadracer mudguards were surprisingly easy to fit but they make quite a noise whilst moving.
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just spoke to denleys indian restaurant and they are bike-friendly, will take bikes in, told them I will be there around 6-7pm, and told them there may be other riders joining me... suggest you ring them to book if you fancy it, maybe good idea to stick to mild curry tonight... their phone is 01392 875675 / 876065
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Don't get in to Exeter until 8pm so I'll leave you to it.
Personally I wouldn't risk a curry, but then that's because I'd be too tempted to have something hot and spend the next 600km getting through spare socks.
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i'll probably still show up at the start, even if just to say hello.
walking across the room seems like a challenge now, so no show tomorrow. enjoy the ride!
<..back into damp bed..>
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NB and in case you're out of earshot when Ian mentions it tomorrow morn - the upper speed limit for this ride is 25km/h. This means that the Penzance control (Long Rock) doesn't open until 3:55pm. If you're fast enough to get to Long Rock before then, well done you, but you ain't gonna get yer card stamped...
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Have fun everybody.
We 'who are not doing a 600 this weekend because we have to earn some domestic brownie points by socialising with Other Halfs old college friends who they haven't seen for 10 years' salute you.
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Can I also put my name on the list for last minute drop-outs, please?
Our eldest caught a tummy bug (what a stupid euphemistic name for gastro-intestinal diseases) on Tuesday and was so kind to pass it on to me. Yesterday was pure misery, with fever, puking and the runs. Today is better, now that the bowls are thoroughly emptied. I can now not only safely cover the distance between the bed and loo but also between bed and kitchen...
I am jealous of all you riders and helpers of this magnificent little cycling adventure. After all the highs and lows you are going to have a great time. Enjoy!
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the upper speed limit for this ride is 25km/h.
Got that Toby ?
Got home from London at 7pm, now eaten & need to start getting sorted out ready for tomorrow. Looks like I'll be starting with sleep deprivation ::-)
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God help me now! I am one of those females who doesn't really fit any stereotypes and definitely doesn't cook , but I am thinking I have all the ingredients for an awesome rocky road cake. Maybe I should start baking. Although I am wondering what you all might have done to deserve this ;D
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God help me now! I am one of those females who doesn't really fit any stereotypes and definitely doesn't cook , but I am thinking I have all the ingredients for an awesome rocky road cake. Maybe I should start baking. Although I am wondering what you all might have done to deserve this ;D
Shall I bring a saw?
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Best of luck with all those riding - we'll be thinking of you.
Emma
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God help me now! I am one of those females who doesn't really fit any stereotypes and definitely doesn't cook , but I am thinking I have all the ingredients for an awesome rocky road cake. Maybe I should start baking. Although I am wondering what you all might have done to deserve this ;D
Shall I bring a saw?
Angle grinder might be more appropriate ;)
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Best of luck with all those riding - we'll be thinking of you.
Emma
Hope the knees are recovering.
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Good luck with the ride everyone. That includes the gallant helpers.
I've re-booked my train ticket rather than lose it, for the 22nd of July. Idly wondering about doing the perm version that weekend. I imagine that a stamp from the travelodge or a receipt from the petrol station would do for a start/finish control, and I know from experience that the A39 has a couple of good bus stops.
Anyone else interested in such silliness? If I were to go for it, that is.
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Might be...
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Heh I made rocky road, it is probably Ok except that I didn't actually have any plain chocolate just milk chocolate. So basically I didn't follow the instructions and maybe I made toxic waste TM
:D
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Good luck with the ride everyone. That includes the gallant helpers.
I've re-booked my train ticket rather than lose it, for the 22nd of July. Idly wondering about doing the perm version that weekend. I imagine that a stamp from the travelodge or a receipt from the petrol station would do for a start/finish control, and I know from experience that the A39 has a couple of good bus stops.
Anyone else interested in such silliness? If I were to go for it, that is.
Too close to the Mersey Roads for me.
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Good luck with the ride everyone. That includes the gallant helpers.
I've re-booked my train ticket rather than lose it, for the 22nd of July. Idly wondering about doing the perm version that weekend. I imagine that a stamp from the travelodge or a receipt from the petrol station would do for a start/finish control, and I know from experience that the A39 has a couple of good bus stops.
Anyone else interested in such silliness? If I were to go for it, that is.
Possibly.....
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Shut up shop 30 mins ago - sitting here with a nice glass of Chateau de Cat Piss, and wishing I was out there in the dark and drizzle with the plucky 13 that made it down to Sunny PZtm. Good night and good luck y'all. ;)
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Might be...
It fits with work, but it will be delicate negotiation for a leave pass! :0)
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Shut up shop 30 mins ago - sitting here with a nice glass of Chateau de Cat Piss, and wishing I was out there in the dark and drizzle with the plucky 13 that made it down to Sunny PZtm. Good night and good luck y'all. ;)
Nearly 30 entries and only 13 souls at Donzance?
Was the Buzzard hungry?
H
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Nope. The Buzzard - he dead. :(
The Beast of Bodmin could back on the prowl, however :o
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As of 10.00, all 13 were still going :thumbsup:
Shame about the buzzard (that it's dead, I mean, not that it didn't eat anyone).
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Hats off to the intrepid 13. It's pretty windy out there and will be a headwind from Yeovil on. Having just got blown sideways taking the dog out I'm secretly relieved not to have been 100% on Friday. Big admiration for those who get round.
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A few pics from last night at PZ:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108490748854835085718/KSW2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCLb3hK3LtvDLtwE# (https://picasaweb.google.com/108490748854835085718/KSW2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCLb3hK3LtvDLtwE#)
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Finished at 8.15. What a ride. Sitting chewing the fat waiting for the last 2.
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13 finished, last 2 in at 9.30
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Well done, chaps! I had to settle for a local 200 yesterday; the K&SW600 is definately on my list of rides to do.
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Well done all!
Chapeau!
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Yay! ;D
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the lucky 13! well done all! was it hard? :D
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Well done, all of you. I looked at the wind forecast before setting off on the Beast and remember thinking it looked worse for you down there in Cornwall than it was for us. And it was bad enough for us...
d.
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Congratulation to all 13 of you ;D
Look forward to reading the ride reports :thumbsup:
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Congratulation to all 13 of you ;D
Look forward to reading the ride reports :thumbsup:
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Well done to those that got back to the finish in Glorious Devon.
H
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Well done all, no mean achievement this weekend.
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Well done! Also looking forward to read about it.
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Woo.
(More later, on train to see my parents.)
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Chapeau all.
Makes me want to recover my fitness to do it next year!
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Sitting down after lunch with the family and am surprised that I am penning the first ride report. Well here goes -
Friday - left work in a rush and after arriving home had to cycle to the station. Train to Exeter was full and I had to push to get on. Then had a brief discussion with someone who claimed that when you have booked a seat if someone is there first it is bad luck. Had to point out that I had booked the seat and had the card to prove it. This concluded when he said but its very crowed standing up, and I said he could have my square foot of floor.
Got to the Exeter Travel Lodge at about 10:30 and met up with Richard Evans. We chatted for a while about rides we had done together.
Saturday - Alarm went off at 4:30 and we set off at first light. We got to the hall at about 5am. It was not open and a little panic set in and I phoned Ian Hennesy to check we were in the correct place. Needless to say we were and I was just been a tad neurotic.
The first stage to Bude was easy riding and there was a group of about six who shared the work and we were first to Bude. Toby was in the group and although I was not pushing on the hills it was clear he could have ridden much faster.
I needed the loo in Bude and so delayed my food order. When I came back there was a family there who ordered six full breakfasts. It looked like it would take some time and so popped into another cafe. Left on my own to tackle the hilly section to Looe. This section was hard and while there was not a hill that had me in problems there was a certain relentless nature that wore me down. I passed Ben (who I was to ride with a lot) and did not see another rider on this section.
Got to Looe and went to the sea front to get some grub. Had chips, ice cream and pasty. Ben, Richard and another (who's name I missed) stood on the pavement and munched.
Ben had left and I set off with Richard and the other rider. We got close to Polruan and Richard claimed it was one way and I had the track on gps and said it was another. We split to see who whould get to the ferry first. I intended to wait, but the ferry was leaving and Ben was sitting there waiting. So I got on in the knowledge that the gps was shorter. I was to find out later that Richard had reached the ferry port just as it was leaving.
Ben and I bounced off each other for a while. I was a little quicker on the hills and he was faster on descents and the flat. The climbing was getting to me a bit and I stopped in Porbus (I think) for a sandwich and was just finishing when Ben passed. I would pass him again on the run into Long Rock.
I have not mentioned the wind. This was against use all the way from Bude. There was protection in some of the hills, but when it was exposed the wind was quite strong.
A welcome break in Long Rock and Ray suggested that we form a group to go back to Bude. The group worked quite well and we stopped in Newquay, which is about half way, for a bit to eat. This section is 120km and I would have struggled without something to eat.
The wind blew us back to Bude and I was surprised to be there before midnight. We were the second riders back. Toby had bounced the control and was planning on stopping at Taunton Dean services.
Sunday -
Four hours sleep and Ray, Ben and I were off. We were still heading east so the wind was at our backs. It was soon obvious that Ray was faster than Ben and I and before long the elastic broke and Ray was off.
The section to Taunton is over 100km and we stopped in Tiverton for a bit to eat.
Ben was surprised when on a back lane I shouted left here and disappeared down an access road. He thought we still had 30km to ride to Taunton Dean services.
On the section to Yeovil the difference in pace between Ben and I was stretching the elastic. I was quicker up the hills and Ben was a better going down and on the flat. Soon after the Yeovil stop I tapped out a couple of hills and was on my own. The run to Seaton was easy but the final descent was brake block burning. 10% or steeper when you did not want to get any speed up.
Short stop at Seaton and then off on the final hilly section. Some of the climbs out of Seaton and Beer were steep and single track. I ended up getting off three times because there cars that were blocking each other. Restarting on a steep hill is not easy and I did walk one section (shame :-[)
The run into Exeter on the A3052 had some descents that were steep and long. Some of the speeds were slightly scary and I would not have enjoyed these in the wet. The route took us on a back lane tour into Exeter and it avoided any city center riding.
I finished about 6:15pm. There was three of us who finished very close. Justin (first 600), myself and then Ben. I thought the elastic had broken with Ben just after Yeovil - only to find him just behind. Sitting here today I feel slightly guilty and wish I had finished the ride with Ben. We had cycled together since Long Rock and help helped each other getting back to Bude so quickly.
Overall I had a great time and would do this ride again. It has a different vibe to the BC and the BCM.
Many thanks to Ian, Feline and SimonP and all Ian's other helpers who made this such an enjoyable event.
Quite why this ride attracts such a small field I do not know. It is fantastic and has a different character to the other long rides I have done.
BB
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Excellent ride, and thanks for the company BB, good to ride with you.
I DNFed this last year, so good to have settled unfinished business so to speak.
Highlights for me;
* the night time ride from penzance back to bude, which far from boring and tiring was actually fast and enjoyable - tailwind-assisted and in good company.
* finding out we had arrived at taunton deane services when I thought we were miles off ;D
* having apple cake and ice cream at seaton overlooking the sea just as the sun came out
* lanes and fun descents right up to the finish.
Many thanks to Ian and all helpers - the route, food and hospitality was spot on and much appreciated.
Yet again there was fog at camelford, i wonder if it's just something about camelford?
because there was fog there last year, but nowhere else.
It's a bit spooky. I think the place may well be haunted.
... Train to Exeter was full and I had to push to get on. Then had a brief discussion with someone who claimed that when you have booked a seat if someone is there first it is bad luck. Had to point out that I had booked the seat and had the card to prove it. This concluded when he said but its very crowed standing up, and I said he could have my square foot of floor.
Always worth booking if you can - on my way back, a cyclist got chucked off at cheltenham spa because his bike was in excess of the three that could be hung up. He obviously hadn't booked it on, but he was trying to get all the way to glasgow... hope he made it!
I finished about 6:15pm. There was three of us who finished very close. Justin (first 600), myself and then Ben. I thought the elastic had broken with Ben just after Yeovil - only to find him just behind. Sitting here today I feel slightly guilty and wish I had finished the ride with Ben. We had cycled together since Long Rock and help helped each other getting back to Bude so quickly.
don't be - t'll teach me to carry so much luggage ;D in all truthfulness i probably could have managed with the barley tbh,and will again. But last year i made the mistake of being too minimalist and while probably not the reason for my packing was less comfortable than with slightly more clothing options.
The problem with the rack top bag is you are tempted to take more than you really need, and fill it - if it's not full before the ride, I just top it up with food ;) ... but it does make it heavy.
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Three pics just to demonstrate that my camera doesn't do semi-darkness very well.
Inside the Stratton control (food was served behind the curtain)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5777077184_a854c03b62.jpg)
Ray on his way at first light
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/5777072016_56687d1fc6.jpg)
Riders leaving just after Ray
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5776529941_e47260e52a.jpg)
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Thanks to:
Ian "the Assassin" Hennessey for organising
Don and crew for the Penzance control
Simon, Lara, Pippa, and everybody else who helped
MrsH for telling me to get back on my bike and stop being a wimp when I casually dropped into a phone conversation on Saturday that the ride was a bit hard and I might pack
Richard for organising a superb B&B last night, a good move.
Double thanks to the overnight crew (Ian Pippa Lara & Simon) for thwarting the bike thief in the small hours of Sunday. One of them will have to explain, I was sleeping.
And chapeau to those (3?) who chose this as their first 600 and succeeded. I spent some time with Mike of Tavistock (wheelers ?) who finished his first SR and qualified with this. A braver man than I relying on this one :thumbsup:
I had an awful Saturday, Sunday made up or it once I realised that I was going to crack it. Stunning, challenging route which must be wonderful if you're not cold, wet, miserable and battling a headwind. I can't imagine that I'll never do it again, but next time not as the penultimate in a series of 8 events in 9 weeks.
I'll hopefully be recovered in time for Friday night's Avalon 400 ;D
I believe Mr Hopper had a good ride. Small scorch marks are being analysed by the highways departments of the respective counties we visited.
Full report to follow.
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Double thanks to the overnight crew (Ian Pippa Lara & Simon) for thwarting the bike thief in the small hours of Sunday. One of them will have to explain, I was sleeping.
You can thank Ian for chasing him out the door, and Lara for giving them an earful. I didn’t do much - I’d just got up from a doze, and I don’t think I even had my shoes on. We made sure they left and went back inside and moved the bikes nearest the door a bit further inside.
You normally assume inside controls should be safe, but the layout of the building meant the sleeping area and bikes were nearest the entrance, and we were away from that area to keep things quiet.
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I believe Mr Hopper had a good ride. Small scorch marks are being analysed by the highways departments of the respective counties we visited.
Better scorch marks than skid marks.
H
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More info on the lads riding it for Musclar Dystrophy can be found here: 23 Events for Bertie (http://www.bertie23.co.uk/)
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I have to admire Mr Greenbank for his very calm arrival at 9.30, looking completely unflustered and having had the presence of mind to collect 8 cold cans of Kronenbourg before the finish. This man has his priorities right :thumbsup:
Was the off licence pre programmed into your GPS?
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Ian "the Assassin" Hennessey
The obscure reference being Octave Lapize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave_Lapize)
He is noted for looking at some Tour officials on the climb of the Col du Tourmalet in the 1910 Tour de France and yelling, "Vous êtes des assassins! Oui, des assassins!' (French for 'You are murderers! Yes, murderers!')"[1] The stage in question was 326 kilometers in length, featured 7 brutal climbs, and was raced on unsealed roads
I had similar feelings on more than one occaision. Rose tinted spectacles are forming now though ;)
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I didn't realise I was in such danger.
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A few thoughts:
Massive headwind to Penzance but with the biggest payoff ever all the way back to Yeovil
3/4 mile of Bridleway at fourlanes added for GPS users ;)
The best cooked Eggs ever in Bude
I managed to hit a pothole just right in the lanes to Taunton Dean to generate the 1.21 Giggawatts to transport me 2 seconds into the future 3 metres to the right in a field (through some sort of green/black/brambly time&space vortex).
I was the only one who got the info at Fowey:
Q. What TV presenter is getting off the ferry? A. Claire Balding
Magnum Ice Cream in Seaton in the sun
The final Descent through Watership Down to Exeter
Thanks to all the helpers at all the controls much appreciated, and cheers AndyH for letting me leave my bag in his car and trust me with a key to it!
Totally agree with BianchBoy in that I cannot understand why this doesn't have a bigger field, it's not hard to get to Exeter is it?
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The full story of AndyH's bike:
At about 4am we heard a bit of a drunken bellow coming from the front entrance area of the town hall. Ian and I dashed out to see what was going on. A drunken scrote was inside the hall mounting Andy's enigma. He was rapidly chased off by Ian into the street where I ran up the road after him and his partner in crime to give them a good ear bashing. I had been planning a rugby tackle but thought better of it since they were beating a hasty retreat.
We kept an extra vigilant watch on the entrance and bikes for the rest of the night in case they came back for a 2nd attempt. I think Simon even kept his shoes on then in case of any more scrote-chasing action ;D
I hope I didn't poison any of the riders with my cooking. Fortunately Pippa was there too to take control of the kitchen!
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I was the only one who got the info at Fowey:
Q. What TV presenter is getting off the ferry? A. Claire Balding
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Oh, her. She was in this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00t4lqf) which was on last week.
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...mounting Andy's enigma...
Oo-er, missus.
It took me several moments to be sure he wasn't one of ours just arriving, by which time he'd staggered off the bike and out of the door. I got the impression that his immediate intention was to ride the bike round the hall - too drunk to realise there were others there.
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...mounting Andy's enigma...
Oo-er, missus.
It took me several moments to be sure he wasn't one of ours just arriving,
Who did you have in mind?
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Comparing the plan to reality (in bold)
06.00 start
10.00 arrive at Bude (81km in 4 hours = 20kph)
* Arrived at 10.03. 21.7kph. Food took longer than expected (table of 8 had ordered before me).
10.30 leave Bude
* 10.54 left Bude after a breakfast and with a pasty in the saddlebag
15.30 arrive at Looe (hilly so 67km in 5 hours = 13.4kph), quick stop to buy pasties to eat on ferry, grab other food in Snozzle
* Arrived at Looe at 14.35. 18.7kph. Ate pasty, stopped for longer than ideal, left at 15.20
20.45 arrive at Penzance (hilly to Snozzle, 94km in 5h15 = 17.9kph)
* Arrived at 21.25. 17.3kph. Headwind stronger than expected. Hard work
21.45 leave Penzance after food and a bit of a rest
* Left at 22.30
03.45 arrive at Stratton (121km in 6 hours = 20kph) sleep stop
* Arrived at 4.45, 19.2kph, getting dozy after Wadebridge, had been looking for a bus shelter
06.00 leave Stratton
* Left at 7.15. Had 45 mins sleep, change of kit and lots of food
12.00 arrive at Taunton (114km in 6 hours = 19kph), 1 hour stop for food
* Arrive at TDS 13.22. 18kph (included 15 min mid stage faff with GPS).
13.00 leave Taunton
* Left at 13.52 after food stop with intentions of minimal stops at West Coker and Seaton
15.30 arrive West Coker (47km in 2.5 hours = 18.8kph), 45 min stop if necessary
* Arrive 16.21, 19kph.
16.15 leave West Coker
* Left 16.33 (made up 30 mins by stopping a short time).
19.00 arrive Seaton (46km in 2.5 hours = 18.4kph), 45 min stop if necessary
* Arrive Seaton 19.02. 18.4kph. Quick stop at kebab shop to get receipts and also the toilets
19.45 leave Seaton
* Left at 19.11
21.00 arrive Finish (hilly last bit, 32km in 2.25 hours = 14.2kph)
* Arrived at Costcutter just down from hall at 21.20 to go beer shopping. Rolled in to the hall 10 mins later
Proper ride report (without many numbers) to come.
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It is difficult to clear a control in less than 45 minutes, whatever intentions you may have...
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That is a great write up there. Quality numbers!
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This is on my list of 'must do' rides. Decided the Bryan Chapman would be enough to make up my first SR rather than stretching to this.
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* Arrived at Costcutter just down from hall at 21.20 to go beer shopping. Rolled in to the hall 10 mins later
:thumbsup: I like the idea of the last stop being a 'beer control'. This should be written into the rules at the next AGM.
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:thumbsup: I like the idea of the last stop being a 'beer control'. This should be written into the rules at the next AGM.
+1
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There'll be a demand for a nympho control next...
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There'll be a demand for a nympho control next...
Are you volunteering?
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I'll vote if you two will propose and second. (But only on long rides with AAA and OSA TM points.)
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And another thread about an IanH event careers off the rails. :facepalm:
Where’s the kittens when you need them?
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There'll be a demand for a nympho control next...
Are you volunteering?
Frayed knot...
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And another thread about an IanH event careers off the rails. :facepalm:
And not a Hummers in sight.
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Thanks are due to:-
Sarah
Simon
Pippa
Lara
Liz
Don
Peter
John
Gill
Rob
Plus Don's other helpers, whom he'll have to identify
The staff at Crooklets Cafe who opened early just for us
Anyone else I've inadvertently left off
It was a great team effort.
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Nicely rescued.
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Notes on Kernow & South West 600km audax, 28-9 May 2011
And an attempt to answer the question: why do we do these rides?
[Warning – quite long – like the ride]
Train to Exeter Friday afternoon, bought a pastie in city centre and ate it on the green by the cathedral in late afternoon sun, glorious start. Then rode out past the start of the ride in Whipton to familiarise myself with its whereabouts. Then failed to find Travelodge… had looked up the postcode on google maps which sent me down a small country lane where I began to think it was an odd place for a Travelodge, usually they put them a bit nearer the motorway. So rode back to the M5 junction and there it was, exactly where I had ridden past it 30 mins earlier. D'oh! Was this an early warning?
Travelodge room was smelly… musty… not been aired perhaps for a year or so? Dead body in the wardrobe perhaps? Opened window… about an inch… that's as far as it goes – is that because the inmates in these places get suicidal? I wonder why?
Marvellous fish and chips at Harry Ramsdens, met up briefly with Greenbank. Feeling better now.
Watched HIGNFY on the telly. Even better. Then a loud knock – it's my room mate, Bianchi Boy! Talked about spokes etc. way too late then decided it would be sensible to get a spot of shut-eye.
3.30am. BB's alarm goes off. An hour too early. He's keen.
4.30am we get up. Coffee, banana, cereal bar. In a smelly Travelodge. The glamour of audax!
5am we're sat on the wall outside what looks remarkably like a church but the noticeboard reassuringly says Whipton Community Centre. BB phones Ian H at 5.15 to check we are in the right place – yes don't panic. 5.30am others begin to arrive including our host Ian, all very laid-back, no sense of urgency. Marvellous! Teas and coffees, more bananas and cereal bars, and then 6am! We're off… into the wind… for 250km.
Easy 3h15 to the first control at Bude (80km), just like it said on the routesheet, mainly because our little grupetto of six is tightly tucked in behind Toby who will go on to complete the distance in 28 hours, smashing the KSW record by some 5 hours… Toby looked completely at ease, going off the front without trying – when he realised he would ease off a bit for us to get back on. A gent on a bike. Effortless mastery.
A full English at Bude was the order of the day. When I set off at around 10am by myself Toby had long gone, having consumed just a coke and a flapjack. How do these whippets do it? I was caught by Mike Plumstead shortly into the lumpy section to Looe and we were to remain joined practically at the hip for the rest of the ride.
At Liskeard we were peckish, I couldn't wait till Looe, so we found a marvellous sandwich shop. They had all manner of deliciously moist fillings, but Mike ordered a dry grated cheese sandwich and promptly emptied half its contents all over the pavement outside the shop. So he went back inside to ask for more cheese and, in order to demonstrate there was not much cheese left in his sandwich, he opened it and emptied the rest of the contents all over their floor. They looked somewhat askance but nonetheless obligingly re-filled his sandwich. After he had finished he went back in to ask them to refill his water bottles. Brazen. I admired more effortless mastery.
We arrived in Looe (142km) at around 1pm I think, it was raining. Had been on and off since Bude. Cornish drizzle. And a stiff headwind, did I mention that? Got an ATM statement for control purposes, then ate fantastic home-made pasties from the local bakery while our bikes blocked the pavement and we blocked the bakery doorway as we tried to shelter from the rain… and the wind.
Mike, BB and I set off together to tackle the next bit. Another hilly wet and windy bit. The routesheet said follow signs to Polruan pedestrian & cycle ferry. Mike and I don't have GPS, so we did just that. BB has GPS (is GPS cheating? Maybe a question for another thread). A junction appears, no signpost. So Mike and I stay on the main road (well, main little lane really) while BB strikes off down even littler lane, slavishly following his GPS. Let's see who gets to the ferry first!
Mike and I arrive at Polruan 10 mins later just in time to wave goodbye to BB as he and bike steam out across the harbour. Never mind, we can have an ice cream while we wait for the next ferry. Standing in the rain. And the wind.
The next bit was quite hilly. And windy. And wet. But great views as we passed St Michael's Mount on the left, in a brief moment of clear skies. Then, before we knew it, but in fact around 7pm, we were in Penzance (240km) at Don's delicious diner! What a fantastic control. This is why we do these rides! Thanks Don and crew, you were brilliant. I think I ate 4 bananas, cakes, two plates of pasta, rice pudding and peaches, and quite possibly 3 eggs and beans on toast as well. Phoned dad to say happy birthday. Phoned Mike Bridgeland who's doing the Didcot 400k this w/e and is in for a shock – he thought it was going to be flat :) Phoned wife to check in, as you do. She's been doing useful stuff in the garden. While I am out doing useless stuff on my bike. Top missus!
Set off at around 8pm with Mike P and Justin Chapman for the long night ride back to Bude. At last we have a tail-wind… and it's stopped raining! This is why we do these rides! We flew to Newquay by 10pm, just in time to get to the garage before it shut for the night and buy various comestibles and substantially delay the staff getting home who foolishly asked where we'd been and were going…
Mike and Justin were still strong but by around midnight I was flagging on the climbs. And it was raining again. Proper rain now, the wet stuff. Why do we do these rides? Dark thoughts. Never again! Clearly I need to refer to rule 5 http://www.velominati.com/blog/the-rules/#5 (http://www.velominati.com/blog/the-rules/#5)
I got back to Bude (370km) at bang on 1am, and by 1.02am my dinner was served and I remember exactly why I do these rides. Thanks Feline, you beauty! XXX
Slept like log despite the drunken attempted bike theft commotion, I did not hear a thing. Gentle wake-up call from Ian at 5am, brekky and ablutions and back out on the road at 6. A long section to Taunton, but no vicious hills and good tailwind, and no rain! This is why we do these rides! Quick garage stop at Tiverton (450km) for sandwiches, chocolate and a pint of milk, then pressed onto Taunton Deane M5 service station, oh the glamour! Arriving at around 11am (480km). Ate burger and drank coke. I NEVER normally let such rubbish pass my lips. Needs must.
The next bit of the routesheet warned of tricky navigation on the lanes around Taunton. Mike and I got lost twice. Apparently people with GPS didn't get lost. Mike and I talked quite a lot about buying GPS. But that would be cheating. Wouldn't it? [start new thread]
We arrived at the most easterly point of the ride, a BP garage somewhere near Yeovil, at around 3pm (530km). I bought and consumed a pint of milk, sandwiches, bananas, ginger beer and packet of mentos. On the garage forecourt, oh the tradition! Oh the glamour! Oh the smell of petrol! This is why we do these rides!
Back on the road for the penultimate section, across the Blackdown Hills to Seaton. Quite a hilly bit this, and finished by the sea. Now we're riding with Andy H who has to stop behind a hedge half-way to change his bib-shorts which are rather too new to be wearing on a 600. He had nearly packed last night on account of the wind and the rain, then phoned the missus who referred him to rule 5. Top missus!
Sun's out now, and the expected headwind since we changed course and struck off southwards has not materialised. So all's good with the world, and we are but a few short kms from completing the legendary KSW and getting qualified for PBP... so we can ride twice as far! Arrive Seaton at about 6pm (575km). ATM receipt.
We had been warned about the last lumpy section, just 30km to finish, but what spectacular scenery awaited, a veritable eye candy feast of scenery, just the ticket to finish a 600. No doubt others equipped with the latest wizardry and gadgetry can tell me to the nearest metre just how scenic this bit was, but it felt like roughly half the climbing of the entire event was squeezed into this 30kms. After we popped out onto the main road (A3052) for a few kms I thought that would be an end to the hills… but it wasn't... the roller-coaster went on, top value! This is why we do these rides!
Then suddenly we're off the main road and on the lanes back into Exeter, past the airport, on a Dr Beeching cycle route (I suspect?) and back at Whipton Community Centre for 8.15pm. 610km. And the hero's welcome that the routesheet had promised. Beans on Toast fit for heroes! And eggs. And pizza. And pasta. And rice pudding and peaches. And coffee. And 5 mugs of black tea for Mike P. And then Greenbank arrives clutching cans of beer, it's his birthday! This is why we do these rides!
I'm never doing it again though. Probably.
Thanks Ian and all your helpers for brilliant ride. I will be back. Probably.
PS. Sunday night I did not have to go back to the Travelodge, oh no! Andy H and I shared a room here: http://www.culmvaleaccommodation.co.uk/ (http://www.culmvaleaccommodation.co.uk/) Quite possibly the best B&B I have ever had the joy to use. Shhh! Don't tell everyone!
PPS. Gratuitous plug for marvellous twitter feed nothing whatever to do with audax or cycling, oh joy! http://twitter.com/#!/Queen_UK (http://twitter.com/#!/Queen_UK)
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... This is why we do these rides!...
Great write-up. Well written, examples like this are why I read these road reports (it is like vicarious participation).
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... This is why we do these rides!...
Great write-up. Well written, examples like this are why I read these road reports (it is like vicarious participation).
+1, great report!
Makes me want to ride it too!
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From Ians Kernow and Southwest 600 (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/ksw600)
38 entered, 20 started, 13 finished. Of those who packed, two were injured, one was weather, and four inexperience (never having ridden any audax event before). Gusting southwesterlies and occasional rain didn't make life easy on the way to Penzance, but the riders were blown back to Bude Saturday evening. Sunday brought more of the same weather, though later finishers missed the headwind on the final stage. Well done, especially to two who completed their first 600s. Thanks to all those who gave up their time and energy to help.
Hats off to them that entered and WOW ! to those that finished.
Well done. Sounds excellant.
Enjoyed the ride reports.
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Hi all. Long time freeloader, first time contributor so here goes… My mother knows me as Justin and I was one of the first timers mention above. It was really a very rewarding experience and I am still grinning from ear to ear, even if the rest of my body is somewhat tortured.
It's been a bit of a trial by ordeal with my first 300 a month ago, the Brevet Cymru my first 400 and this topping it all off. I had a few goals for this ride including finishing, not getting shoulder pain, avoiding saddle pressure sores and taking my eyes off my GPS long enough to enjoy the countryside! I mostly achieved all of them.
Usual daftness on my part as I decided to replace my chain, cassette and shifter the evening before the ride so i didn't get to bed till late and only had about 5.5 hrs sleep. I live 35mins from the start so I got up at 4:00AM and hit the road to Exeter, unpacked the car outside the control, didn't see it and promptly set off into town to look for the start. After some helpful advice from the locals I ended up back at the hall and caught Ian's rousing sermon and rallying cries.
Held off any over-exertion for the first stage to Bude as I have the tendency to overdo it earlier in the rides. Pretty roads tho and a bit of nattering with the others. Clothes on and off trying to get the balance between drizzle, wind and exertion. The stretch from Bude to Looe was hilly but OK, I tried getting out of the saddle more then I usually do to relieve saddle and shoulder pressure. Looe was heaving with miserable looking holidaymakers and I felt very lucky to be there with a "purpose". Pasty and back on the road where unfortunately I think my Jersey buddy packed on the first hill. Wound to Fowey ferry, on the v. steep hill in had terrifying front wheel lock up on the slippery metal manholes. Dragged my bike precariously on and off the ferry watched by unhelpful 12 year old ferryman.
And onwards to Marazion on some rather unpleasant busy roads and one very improbable bridleway Ian put on the GPS route for a chuckle. Control not in Marazion as I had convinced myself it was. The 2 mile ride to Long Rock felt like the longest section of the ride! Wonderful hospitality at Long Rock accompanied by the relief in the knowledge that I wouldn't be riding into that ghastly wind any more. Mike and Richard (I hope I got your names right) kindly let me hang onto their coat-tales for the section to Bude. Mike was very wise in counselling the benefits of night riding in a group and it was a very fast, pleasant ride despite the continual drizzle.
Bude was a welcome respite on arrival at about 1:00AM and the Rocky-Road cake superb. It was my first "night" Audax and I wasn't very prepared for it and found it really difficult to sleep. I was wired despite being physically tired and sensitive to noise etc. I think the helpers were having a party in the kitchen but it would have been churlish to remonstrate seeing as how they had given up their Saturday nights (literally!) to attend to the peculiar gastronomic demands of a bunch of sweaty Audaxers! Must remember ear-plugs next time. It was good to rest my body even if I only got about 1.5 hrs sleep. On waking super breakfast and more wise counsel from Ian before hitting the road about 5:15. I rode mostly on my own except for a short spell with a chap with stocking on his head who's name escaped me, I couldn't keep up with him for long but felt good going at my own pace. As I got nearer to Tiverton I entered more familiar roads which was comforting although I had to withstand the urge to divert to my house which was a couple of miles off the route! Taunton Deane Services felt a bit like landing on a strange planet after miles of quiet country lane solitude. I bitterly resented the cost of a bottle of water so I bought a shot of espresso and tried to nonchalantly drink it at the petrol station counter, like they do in Italy, I don't think it quite evoked the desired exotic effect tho.
Then off to Yeovil with empty Bidons and more beautiful countryside and pretty villages. Still feeling good and thinking "I can do this!". From Yeovil with refilled bidons it got hilly climbing up above the Marshwood vale with that wind to contend with again. I arrived in Seaton at 3:30 and I was met by wife, daughter and parents in law for welcome fish and chips and a stretch out on the beach. I had a long half hour stop then, dare I say it, enjoyed the final stretch back to Exeter. It was a bit comedic the whole massive climb out of one seaside town, drop down into another, out, in etc. I think I smelt my brakes burning going into Branscombe.
Wonderful final backlane extravaganza into Exeter and finish at 6:13PM. Two more riders rolled in in quick succession. We had been probably riding just round the corner from each-other fro the last 40k! I enjoyed more fine hospitality whilst I stared into the middle distance in a state of semi stupor. Anyway thankyou everyone who I met who where all invariably friendly and supportive. Thankyou Ian and team for putting it all on.
What do people recommend I do next?
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What do people recommend I do next?
There's a 1200 in August.
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Just sent IanH a permanent entry for this for 2nd July. Wrist should be up to it by then shouldn't it? Could be a bit warm.
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Just sent IanH a permanent entry for this for 2nd July. Wrist should be up to it by then shouldn't it? Could be a bit warm.
Great! You can Gps-mark suitable bus shelters for me then!
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nice ride reports! i'd like to do this ride in mid-end july, only i'd like some sort of shelter for 2-3hrs sleep (no bus shelters pls!). could my dns card be reused for permanent ride?
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Not sure I can recall any Travelodge-type spots on the night section. I'd be glad to be corrected though.
I think a DNS is usually regarded as a card lost. The org has had most of his expenses by that point.
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
Would the one at Taunton be too late?
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
Would the one at Taunton be too late?
Not at Toby speed.
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
Would the one at Taunton be too late?
Not at Toby speed.
At Toby speed you wouldn't need a sleep stop at all ;D
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
Would the one at Taunton be too late?
Too late for me. I’m not sure of the distance to Newquay, but if it’s similar to the 337km hotel on the Border Raid then it’d almost be possible to do the whole thing in daylight (it’s easier on the Border Raid because of the longer days in Scotland).
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Two perm entries so far.
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
boscastle yha?
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I’m guessing Newquay Travelodge might be a bit too early.
boscastle yha?
or Tinatagel Yha, both would give you some extra climbing :thumbsup:, alternativley just start later and sleep in Newquay?
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Hi all. Long time freeloader, first time contributor so here goes… My mother knows me as Justin and I was one of the first timers mention above. It was really a very rewarding experience and I am still grinning from ear to ear, even if the rest of my body is somewhat tortured (...)
Nice report. So your Audax career really took off in the last year or so (even with a little family!) and you already finished one of the UK's finest 600 (so they say, I only did this one and BCM...)? Congratulation. Btw, we met a couple of times last year (Mad March, Exmouth Exodus, last years K&SW - although you didn't ride it, Dartmoor Devil ...), er, I am Julian...
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I like all the great reviews about how everyone got on. Mine, I blogged to my club site as I rode along and can be found here. http://southwestern-swrc.blogspot.com/search/label/Kernow%20and%20SW (http://southwestern-swrc.blogspot.com/search/label/Kernow%20and%20SW)
I took a load of photo which can be found here. https://picasaweb.google.com/ParkySouthLondon/KernowAndSouthwest2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3z2qGwkK77ZA# (https://picasaweb.google.com/ParkySouthLondon/KernowAndSouthwest2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3z2qGwkK77ZA#)
Thanks to all the helpers as well as all the cyclist I met during the event. I nearly didn't make the finish but survived to tell the tale and gain a bit more experience. That's worth a lot. :-*
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I like all the great reviews about how everyone got on. Mine, I blogged to my club site as I rode along and can be found here. http://southwestern-swrc.blogspot.com/search/label/Kernow%20and%20SW (http://southwestern-swrc.blogspot.com/search/label/Kernow%20and%20SW)
I took a load of photo which can be found here. https://picasaweb.google.com/ParkySouthLondon/KernowAndSouthwest2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3z2qGwkK77ZA# (https://picasaweb.google.com/ParkySouthLondon/KernowAndSouthwest2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3z2qGwkK77ZA#)
Thanks to all the helpers as well as all the cyclist I met during the event. I nearly didn't make the finish but survived to tell the tale and gain a bit more experience. That's worth a lot. :-*
Great ride report and pics there parky :thumbsup:
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ACP Brevet numbers are up on the results pages if anyone needs theirs for PBP registration.
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Yes, I was just waiting for that. thanks Alex :thumbsup:
Knees managed a wet 200km event yesterday so bring on P-B-P.
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Just about to post off an entry for the permanent.
What does the panel think about the wisdom or otherwise of setting off straight from the train on Friday the 22nd July. Starting around 10 pm would mean two nights on the road. Would Taunton services be reachable for the second night?
The inevitably slower ride might well push me over time. I'm pretty touch-and-go on this ride at the best of times, but it doesn't really matter, as I'm not in it for the points and I'm not trying to qualify for anything except a lobotomy. It might even be useful PBP training.
What about food stops though? The first overnight is going to be a bit sparse. I suppose I could carry a big batch of sarnies for that. The evening stretch to Taunton could be bleak too, but I might just A38 it. Otherwise it should be OK shouldn't it?
The big advantage would be that I could get a Sunday evening train home and be fit(ish) for work on Monday.
Stupid plan? Anyone remember any good-looking bus-shelters on the first two legs?
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Just about to post off an entry for the permanent.
What does the panel think about the wisdom or otherwise of setting off straight from the train on Friday the 22nd July. Starting around 10 pm would mean two nights on the road. Would Taunton services be reachable for the second night?
The inevitably slower ride might well push me over time. I'm pretty touch-and-go on this ride at the best of times, but it doesn't really matter, as I'm not in it for the points and I'm not trying to qualify for anything except a lobotomy. It might even be useful PBP training.
What about food stops though? The first overnight is going to be a bit sparse. I suppose I could carry a big batch of sarnies for that. The evening stretch to Taunton could be bleak too, but I might just A38 it. Otherwise it should be OK shouldn't it?
The big advantage would be that I could get a Sunday evening train home and be fit(ish) for work on Monday.
Stupid plan? Anyone remember any good-looking bus-shelters on the first two legs?
The calendar route is pretty well thought out in terms of food stops and timing. Riding out at 10pm would mean you don't get any respite until St Austel - plus you need to factor in the start time for the Fowey ferry.
Just a thought but if you are under pressure for time on the Sunday (and are happy to effectively bump Bude as a stop), you might be better off kipping in Exeter on the Friday and starting earlier than 6am on the Saturday morning - say 3/4am. That way you would be in Looe for breakfast time and would be assured of grub at all the other controls.
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I seem to recall that I usually get to Bude around 9.30 and Looe around 1pm - Have to check back, but if that is right, then 8 hours earlier would mean Looe at 5 which is too early to eat. You're right.
I probably wouldn't make it that early because I'd make slower progress overnight, but I'd still be too soon. I wonder what time the filling station, on the way up the hill leaving, Looe opens.
I don't think I'd have a problem at Fowey, or would I? The website says the ferry starts at 7.
On your suggested scheme, if I set off at 4, it all works fine up to Bude-the-second where I'll start to need to sleep. If wonder whether I can find somewhere round there. It would still a bit tight for the last train, I think.
Ponder-ponder!
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Don';t forget that a chunk of the Penzance - Bude leg is on main roads which are fine at night but less so in the late afternoon and early evening
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sleep is a problem. There is nothing around Bude other than bus shelters and similar. If you started early enough you might be able to push on as far as Tiverton, which offers motel facilities, or even Taunton.
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Costa Coffee in Taunton Deane has fantastic sofas too
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I seem to recall that I usually get to Bude around 9.30 and Looe around 1pm - Have to check back, but if that is right, then 8 hours earlier would mean Looe at 5 which is too early to eat. You're right.
I probably wouldn't make it that early because I'd make slower progress overnight, but I'd still be too soon. I wonder what time the filling station, on the way up the hill leaving, Looe opens.
I don't think I'd have a problem at Fowey, or would I? The website says the ferry starts at 7.
On your suggested scheme, if I set off at 4, it all works fine up to Bude-the-second where I'll start to need to sleep. If wonder whether I can find somewhere round there. It would still a bit tight for the last train, I think.
Ponder-ponder!
But you would be at Bude around midnight and I doubt the roads will be much different from Penzance-Bude with it being if you started two hours earlier.
Or start at 6 and pull a sicky on the Monday. :demon:
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
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On your suggested scheme, if I set off at 4, it all works fine up to Bude-the-second where I'll start to need to sleep. If wonder whether I can find somewhere round there. It would still a bit tight for the last train, I think.
If we can get to Bude before 11pm then we can book a BnB there
I hate to say it but a start slightly (not much) before 6am might be the best option
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We?
You up for it on that weekend? Company would be a factor in what I do, but I don't think I'd reach Bude before 2am on a 6am start.
Might move faster in a posse though
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
I'll be spending that weekend with my lady friend. I think she'd like to ride the KSW, but probably not this year.
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We?
You up for it on that weekend? Company would be a factor in what I do, but I don't think I'd reach Bude before 2am on a 6am start.
Might move faster in a posse though
I've fiddled around with a spreadsheet
If I put in realistic numbers for speed and optimistic figures for faffing about then it is possible to get to Bude 2nd time for 11pm.
Hmm, I'm not sure if the numbers for the spreadsheet are right though. It is saying I will finish more than 3 hours ahead of the time limit. I've never managed to actually finish more than 30 minutes ahead of the time limit
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I guess there are opportunities to save a bit of time here and there if doing it in a perm style and in a small group. I would be inclined to control at the first spot in Bude, and depart again pretty sharpish. Same thing in Looe, and aim to eat on the move and on the ferry rather than sitting down. Not visiting Don's will be a blow, but compensated by not needing to go all the way into town.
Generally my low point has been on the road back to Bude, where I start to .... need....to...............sleeeeep and end up kipping in my favourite bus shelter for 20 mins. Perhaps the hoped-for lack of faff might get us all the way Bude before that kicks in, though getting to Bude by 11 on a 5am start seems like a tall order to me.
I wonder if it would be possible to relax the 11pm constraint by checking into somewhere in the morning, on the way through? Wouldn't most B&B folk be up and doing by 8? That would tie in well with a 5am start, and take the pressure off.
I'd probably still be in favour of a bit of main-road bashing to Taunton, in the interests of hurry-up, and not being an AAA tart.
Incidentally, I'm not overly concerned about using the A39 or A38 in daylight. That weekend, I think most of the traffic will be heading west.
Is anyone other than Vorsprung and me considering it?
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
I'll be spending that weekend with my lady friend. I think she'd like to ride the KSW, but probably not this year.
Well if you really want to do it, I could put up a huge tent in some field in Bude and provide a sleep stop :D
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
I'll be spending that weekend with my lady friend. I think she'd like to ride the KSW, but probably not this year.
Well if you really want to do it, I could put up a huge tent in some field in Bude and provide a sleep stop :D
Well if you can’t think of anything better to do? ???
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
I'll be spending that weekend with my lady friend. I think she'd like to ride the KSW, but probably not this year.
Well if you really want to do it, I could put up a huge tent in some field in Bude and provide a sleep stop :D
Well if you can’t think of anything better to do? ???
Do u have any suggestions? O:-)
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I'm supposed to be riding it this weekend. Not a chance, too few miles in my legs.
What are you doing on the weekend of the 23rd?
I'll be spending that weekend with my lady friend. I think she'd like to ride the KSW, but probably not this year.
Well if you really want to do it, I could put up a huge tent in some field in Bude and provide a sleep stop :D
Well if you can’t think of anything better to do? ???
Do u have any suggestions? O:-)
How about throwing squidge’s soggy ball?
O:-)
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Do u have any suggestions? O:-)
How about throwing squidge’s soggy ball?
O:-)
That's a euphemism I'd not heard before
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Do u have any suggestions? O:-)
How about throwing squidge’s soggy ball?
O:-)
That's a euphemism I'd not heard before
I actually really wish this one was a euphemism ...
Squidge:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/feistyfeline/Nat14bd009.jpg)
Soggy disgusting ball that gets dumped on your lap:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/feistyfeline/26564_395458807688_662992688_4037347_662775_n.jpg)
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Ha Ha, it makes sense now...
I was assuming that squidge was some kind of character out of a 1980's TV show or something as obviously I am lost when people start doing these kind of references!
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Well, I've pretty much committed myself to doing it as a double-overnighter, setting out at about 11pm, more or less straight off the train.
I reckon I should get to see sunrise somewhere round Bodmin Moor, and hopefully th eferry will be running by the time I reach Fowey. Now to google for bus stops. I may need one round about Bude on the first night, but I hope I can reach Taunton for the second.
I expect this to be an ultra-full-value ride.
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Good luck. Looking forward to the report!
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I'm not doing it now. I await the ride report with interest however, see how the timings work with a 11pm start
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As I write, I'm sat on the pavement outside the Happy Shopper in Tiverton, waaay out of time.
I think now is the moment for a sharp right and head back to Exeter for a pizza and a train.
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Bad luck JJ.
H
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No. It was always a stretch. I have enough trouble getting round the standard version but this was my best chance of getting a long ride done before Paris and I've achieved that. 500 km done with two overnights. A reminder that I really am bog slow at night so I'll try to avoid night night riding as far as poss on PBP. Also, don't take so much stuff.
I've been for a swim and am eagerly awaiting pizza so a RR will have to wait
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Just found this thread, thinking, Oh! I haven't seen this before - then I see a couple of posts from IanH. Must be me.
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Oh dear..
H