Author Topic: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018  (Read 80589 times)

simonp

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #950 on: August 12, 2017, 11:46:22 pm »
The Essex 1000 will go to Wales and back. It won't just be in the east of England.

It might be worth noting that previous PBPs have had a system where riders can enter PBP earlier depending on the longest brevet they rode the previous year.

Certainly worth noting - though the chances of a mere 600k being insufficient to get a place are extremely thin.

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #951 on: August 13, 2017, 07:10:18 am »
What is the event planner, do you have a link? I can only access the AUK calendar, where there is nothing for next year yet

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #952 on: August 13, 2017, 07:28:02 am »
The event planner is a area for organizers only

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #953 on: August 13, 2017, 11:48:43 am »
The Essex 1000 will go to Wales and back. It won't just be in the east of England.

It might be worth noting that previous PBPs have had a system where riders can enter PBP earlier depending on the longest brevet they rode the previous year.

Certainly worth noting - though the chances of a mere 600k being insufficient to get a place are extremely thin.

Every person who entered PBP15 was able to start, if qualified, so even a 200 would be plenty in reality but there will inevitably be a huge demand for riding a 1000 BRM next year. Just like last time.
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miyataman

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Report from mille pennines 2017
« Reply #954 on: August 15, 2017, 04:34:03 pm »
with photos.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/

Smeth

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #955 on: August 15, 2017, 08:29:45 pm »
with photos.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.

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Andy Corless

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #956 on: August 16, 2017, 11:09:01 am »
Crikey no flies on some people. First entries in within an hour of it going into the calendar.  8)

Andy Corless

mattc

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #957 on: August 16, 2017, 11:30:14 am »
Crikey no flies on some people. First entries in within an hour of it going into the calendar.  8)

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miyataman

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #958 on: August 16, 2017, 06:04:56 pm »
with photos.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.
Which rider were you? The small picture in your profile doesn' ring a bell.

Smeth

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #959 on: August 16, 2017, 06:22:59 pm »
with photos.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.
Which rider were you? The small picture in your profile doesn' ring a bell.
I mistook you for a guy I met in Scotland. Ti Enigma bike.

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Andy Corless

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #960 on: August 19, 2017, 03:18:36 pm »
I've uploaded a selection of riders' blogs and photo's onto the event website at: https://millepenninesaudax.com/volunteer/

Andy Corless

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #961 on: August 22, 2017, 06:39:21 pm »
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?

Mulling over an entry....

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #962 on: August 22, 2017, 07:38:48 pm »
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?

Mulling over an entry....

Does that mean going down Hardknott?  Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #963 on: August 22, 2017, 07:55:23 pm »

Does that mean going down Hardknott?  Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!

 :o

mcshroom

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #964 on: August 22, 2017, 08:21:36 pm »
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?

Mulling over an entry....

Does that mean going down Hardknott?  Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!

You always have to go down one side of Hardknott. They're both scary in the wet
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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #965 on: August 22, 2017, 09:56:25 pm »
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?

Mulling over an entry....

Does that mean going down Hardknott?  Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!

You always have to go down one side of Hardknott. They're both scary in the wet
I don't think going down Hardknott that way would be any worse in the wet than heading from west to east and the descent from wrynose to cockley beck would certainly be a good deal better. It's not a deal breaker either way I just like to get the route right in my head before entering 😬

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #966 on: August 22, 2017, 10:42:13 pm »
I have drafted a route based on Andy's published text in the Audax UK calendar entry http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-62/
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
1004.9km + 12769m
Note that:
1) From Ambleside the 2018 route goes west across Wrynose and Hardknott Passes to Seascale (this will mean passing the 'Esk Fest' site https://www.eskfest.com/: much earlier thus missing its wonderful music and, err, aroma)
2) Selects Keswick as a control as opposed to Whinlatter Pass (which is nevertheless climbed - 179km) - Siskins Cafe at Whinlatter closes at 5pm
3) Uses Sedbergh as a control on Friday and Saturday nights, but Askrigg on Sunday night (NB not certain of the last assertion as conflicting info in AC's details but the distances work for Askrigg and don't for Sedbergh). This will make Day 3 a welcome 32km shorter than in the 2017 edition.
4) From Sedbergh heads NE for Stanhope morning of Day 2, past the Howgills/Wild Boar Fell via Kirkby Stephen, Brough and Middleton (ie not via Hawes). There is 1400m of climb in the first 80km: which compares with 1600m of climb in 70km in 2016 (Askrigg to above Crawleyside/Stanhope) and similar in 2017 (Hawes to above Crawleyside/Stanhope).
5) Resurrects the high road across to Lockerbie (control) from Langholm (as 2016 route)
6) For the last 100km dash, leaves Askrigg and from Hawes heads SW past the iconic Ribblehead Viaduct https://www.visitcumbria.com/carlset/ribblehead-viaduct/ and through Ingleton (as in 2016)

Enjoy!
 

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #967 on: August 22, 2017, 11:10:21 pm »
That'd be a much easier start to day 2 - it's a relatively (!) easy run  to Middleton, even bearing in mind the 4 miles uphill from Brough.

Seems a bit previous, though - and I reckon you could shave miles off if you went over Styhead to Seatoller ;D

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #968 on: August 22, 2017, 11:31:31 pm »
Via Wasdale Head, Styhead and Seatoller: 10 miles less and 100+m climb less. Thank you for the 'heads up', Deano. Worth thinking about, though maybe not on road tyres. I first walked that route in Easter 66.

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #969 on: August 23, 2017, 02:59:28 pm »
I have drafted a route based on Andy's published text in the Audax UK calendar entry http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-62/
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
1004.9km + 12769m
Note that:
1) From Ambleside the 2018 route goes west across Wrynose and Hardknott Passes to Seascale (this will mean passing the 'Esk Fest' https://www.eskfest.com/: and missing its wonderful music and, err, aroma)
2) Selects Keswick as a control as opposed to Whinlatter Pass (which is nevertheless climbed)
3) Uses Sedbergh as a control on Friday and Saturday night, but Askrigg on Sunday night (NB not certain of the last assertion as conflicting info in AC's details but the distances work for Askrigg and don't for Sedbergh)
4) From Sedbergh heads for Stanhope past the Howgills/Wild Boar Fell via Kirkby Stephen, Brough and Middleton (ie not via Hawes). There is 1400m of climb in the first 80km: which compares with 1600m of climb in 70km in 2016 (Askrigg to above Crawleyside/Stanhope) and similar in 2017 (Hawes to above Crawleyside/Stanhope).
5) Resurrects the high road across to Lockerbie (control) from Langholm (as 2016 route)
6) For the last 100km dash, leaves Askrigg and from Hawes heads SW past the iconic Ribblehead Viaduct https://www.visitcumbria.com/carlset/ribblehead-viaduct/ and through Ingleton (as in 2016)

Enjoy!

Looks like a collage of 4 of the hilliest rides I've done, thanks! I keep thinking about signing up for this one, need a challenge to focus on through the winter months. 1000km and 12.75 AAA would seem to fit the bill!

Andy Corless

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #970 on: August 23, 2017, 04:20:58 pm »
"Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year?"

Yes! The reason for the change in direction through the Lake District is to ensure that all the riders cross over both Wrynose and Hardknott Passes during daylight hours, taking into consideration the later start time of 11:00 am. Some of the slower riders crossed the passes in twilight last year. Also, the A591 between Keswick & Grasmere is better for night-riding, possibly with lower traffic volumns.

Andy Corless

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #971 on: August 23, 2017, 04:51:33 pm »
The change in direction, climbing Wrynose and Harknott Passes from the east (distance neutral btw), has three more benefits besides daylight riding, two of which Andy may not be aware:
1) Makes a nice change
2) Gets the riders through and past the Esk fest site (near the bottom of the Hardknott descent) before the festival attendees (running 6-7 July 2018) have started to drive the Eskdale valley road and the Wrynose/Cockley Beck/Hardknott road
3) The riders will be able to ride the Cold Fell road (Calder Bridge to Eskdale Green) at a time which does not coincide with the 'rat run' traffic taking that route from Sellafield north after their shift ending at 4pm (or whatever).

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #972 on: August 24, 2017, 01:42:33 pm »
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?

Mulling over an entry....

Does that mean going down Hardknott?  Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!

You always have to go down one side of Hardknott. They're both scary in the wet

True, but the west side is about three times as much descent!

Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #973 on: August 24, 2017, 04:38:05 pm »
Doing Wrynose first gives better views. The descent through Little Langdale is narrow and technical, so there's no opportunity to appreciate the landscape. Coming off Hardknott you get a view of the Roman fort. Dunmail Raise is also easier to do from the North.

Smeth

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Re: Mille Pennines 6th July 2018
« Reply #974 on: August 24, 2017, 05:32:18 pm »
Doing Wrynose first gives better views.
I recall looking back to admire the views, perhaps to catch a glimpse of the Isle of Man ;D. The view resembled the space immediately below this text :facepalm: