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Making your hobby your career
« on: 12 November, 2018, 02:50:19 pm »
How many of the group changed their hobby into a career


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Wowbagger

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #1 on: 12 November, 2018, 03:03:19 pm »
I did.

For many years I have been a moderate(ly weak) chess player - county 2nd team at my peak. However, I discovered that I had a pretty decent success rate at training primary-school aged children to play at a very high level in their age groups. When the opportunity came to take a voluntary redundancy I grabbed it with both hands and set myself up teaching kids how to play chess. From 1995 to the spring of this year, that has been my main, some years sole, source of income.

I also qualified as a piano teacher. So there again, my hobby became a money-making activity.

I found that once I had been earning money from an activity, it ceased to be a pleasure any more and became a chore. My last game of competitive chess was something like 14 years ago, and the end to my career coincided with my younger daughter going to university, and I didn't have the company any more. I stopped practising the piano.

I have stopped teaching the piano and I'm playing a lot again, and I reckon that I'm probably playing better than I ever have - which seems a bit odd for an old git with arthritic hands. Having said that, Andras Schiff is a bit older than I am and I find him inspirational. Daniel Barenboim still plays and he's superb. John Lill (won the Moscow International Competition in 1970 is well into his 70s and is still performing - I'm going to a recital of his on Friday.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #2 on: 12 November, 2018, 03:19:27 pm »
I found that once I had been earning money from an activity, it ceased to be a pleasure any more and became a chore.

Exactly this. I went from enthusiastic photographer to paid wedding and corporate photographer and found I almost never used my camera unless I was being paid to.

I've now stopped looking for paid work and am using my camera much more for fun again (and using it better too)

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #3 on: 12 November, 2018, 03:25:37 pm »
I did, sort of.  Back when I was at university you could take Computer Science as an supplementary course to whatever else you were doing, be it maths, engineering, astrophysics, linguistics, etc. I did a year of it and loved it so much that I neglected the rest, got a sort of a degree and ended up in an insurance office, but as soon as a job opening in computing came up I jumped at it. Done everything from commercial stuff to deep down dirty operating system finagling and rarely felt that the money going into the bank every month was somehow connected to the fun I was having.  That changed a bit when I went independent and did contract work, but I had some fascinating contracts - state-machine-driven code generator for cardiac implants, radiation-monitoring systems, 3D sewerage modelling & flow mapping, imaging & lots less technical but still fun. The only time I didn't enjoy it was when someone in the early days threw a commercial spec at me and the progress chaser kept badgering. That, and when they got me to manage other people: pain in the ass.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #4 on: 12 November, 2018, 03:52:02 pm »
Sort of - having worked for myself in marketing/interim management for about 20 years, tapering-off to retirement I got a part-time job in a bike shop 0900-1400 one day a week ... after 2 or 3 months that became two days a week - then about 7 months later the shop manager left and the owners couldn`t find anyone to run it so with an adjustment to the opening days/hours (so that I could join the club run on Wednesdays) I`ve been managing the shop for about 16 months - on my own - spanners and sales.  When I go on holiday we close the shop.  I`d been dabbling around with bikes for about 30 years and acquired a Cytech qualification along the way.

Although I`m beyond retirement age and don`t really need the money. I enjoy it and and will probably carry on until I no longer enjoy it or the owner wants to change the arrangement.  (In true bike shop employee tradition I do spend quite a bit on bike stuff ... all at trade price of course  :thumbsup:)

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Re: Making your cycling hobby your career
« Reply #5 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:10:58 pm »
I do apologise it should of read making your cycling hobby your career instead of making your hobby your career and should of gone in off topic 🙄

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #6 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:15:22 pm »
Looking back six years I kind of backed myself into a corner. My job was unutterably shit and had been for years. I was (am?) a skilled parts adviser with three decades of experience and above average memory capacity. I have never been a sales person - that is I've had sales roles but the whole 'ringing people up pretending to be their best mate and flogging barrels of oil/antifreeze/brake pads/consumables' was so abhorrent I simply wouldn't (couldn't?) do it.

Of course when you're cornered you fight back. My only transferrable skill was being able to fix bikes and I had a little capital. Given a choice of staying at home rocking back & to in a corner until the money ran out or going down fighting I chose the latter. It's reasonably well documented on here. I haven't grown to hate bikes or cycling but don't ride much.

Being aware of my mistakes I am doing my level best to make sure the boys don't do the same. I have been steering the eldest towards a practical engineering career. Trying to emphasise that it's the work that provides the income for the hobbies - not the other way around.
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Re: Making your cycling hobby your career
« Reply #7 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:16:02 pm »
I do apologise it should of read making your cycling hobby your career instead of making your hobby your career and should of gone in off topic 🙄

Keep it where it is IMHO.
VELOMANCER

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #8 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:17:55 pm »
I do apologise it should of read making your cycling hobby your career instead of making your hobby your career and should of gone in off topic

Keep it where it is IMHO.


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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #9 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:28:19 pm »
I have been thinking for a while about learning to fix my own bikes mainly to cut down on cost and consider building my own bike to  my specifications.
Maybe if I feel confident enough start my own bicycle repair business

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #10 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:38:38 pm »
I was bike-mad as a youth and gradually moved into being a part-time then full-time bike mechanic, team mechanic, head mechanic at a shop and eventually shop manager. I spent a lot of time with bikes but not very much time riding by the end. I then went back to uni, am an engineer now and ride quite a bit.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #11 on: 12 November, 2018, 04:41:57 pm »
I was bike-mad as a youth and gradually moved into being a part-time then full-time bike mechanic, team mechanic, head mechanic at a shop and eventually shop manager. I spent a lot of time with bikes but not very much time riding by the end. I then went back to uni, am an engineer now and ride quite a bit.
Did you go on a bike mechanic course or did you learn on the job

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #12 on: 12 November, 2018, 05:01:50 pm »
It was a long time ago. I helped with setting up one of the first bike mechanic certification courses in Oz. None of my bike mechanic certificates are current.

The shop where I 'apprenticed' was the best-equipped shop in the state, including lathes and torch. Stewy was an ex-toolmaker and liked making tools to higher tolerances than were commercially available. Several times, the shop had the only tool in the country for esoteric bike kit. I have my own Campag tool case and wheely tool cases in both Oz and the UK.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #13 on: 12 November, 2018, 06:13:15 pm »
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Maybe if I feel confident enough start my own bicycle repair business

When we visited the DiscWorld Emporium in the Summer I was given to understand that Wincanton was devoid of bike shops.

Coincidentally renting a small shop on Wincanton high street was cheap. Very cheap.

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VELOMANCER

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #14 on: 12 November, 2018, 06:15:54 pm »
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Maybe if I feel confident enough start my own bicycle repair business

When we visited the DiscWorld Emporium in the Summer I was given to understand that Wincanton was devoid of bike shops.

Coincidentally renting a small shop on Wincanton high street was cheap. Very cheap.

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #15 on: 12 November, 2018, 06:16:17 pm »
My thoughts have been turning in this kind of direction lately, regarding reading, or more specifically reading aloud to other people on audio books. I love reading, and spend quite a bit of time reading to my son when I'm home. He seems to pay attention at least, so why not give it a go?

I'd love to be a brewer as well, utilising my chemical engineering g skills and home brew enthusiasm, buts its very difficult to make a living from a micro brewery.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #16 on: 12 November, 2018, 06:58:38 pm »
My understanding is that reading audio books is also very poorly rewarded - unless you can pass yourself off as Stephen Fry or someone. I've thought about it too, as I have had unsolicited favourable comments about the quality of my voice (both spoken and sung!) but have never got a round tuit.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #17 on: 12 November, 2018, 07:03:48 pm »
Unless you count sacking your job in and starting a msc and using deliveroo to pay the bills 😉
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #18 on: 12 November, 2018, 07:37:21 pm »
If I get made redundant, I'd like to go and work in a bike shop.  I can live on minimum wage + capital (I get two years' pay if I'm laid off, and I'm nearly 50).
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #19 on: 12 November, 2018, 09:43:26 pm »
A few years ago  (9 to be precise) I took voluntary redundancy here in France wanting to either go back and do a history PhD or train as a bike mechanic. Getting into Limoges uni on the basis of my welsh MA looked improbable and bike mechanic courses (which are supposed to be a legal requirement over here for touching road-going machinery) were far too far away from home and included 50% motorbikes, which didn't particularly appeal to me (surprising but true) so it didn't happen (although if I hadn't had family considerations I might have pursued it a bit more). In reality the french cycling industry has a very small workforce relatively speaking so I was probably better out.

In an earlier life I was a motorcycle despatcher for a couple of years (started it much too late) and, while I actually enjoyed the riding bit, the maintenance side sometimes got stressful. I quickly got to the stage where the bike got ridden if there was money in it, the weekend I drove the car (and sometimes rode a bicycle!). It broke my first marriage though!

I also enjoyed farming but that was a vocation not a career!   

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #20 on: 13 November, 2018, 06:07:29 am »
I think some of the best careers can be made from a vocation. I'd say my current career is such, although I'm need of a fairly subtle change of direction in the same overall field right now
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #21 on: 13 November, 2018, 08:48:20 am »
A friend of mine started a cycle tour company. The idea being he'd get to ride all year round in the sunshine in the worlds best spots.

I've done some ride leading for him, I think the reality is it's a massive exercise in logistics and herding cats. The punters are incredibly needy. He puts a smile on, but i don't think I could hack it full time.

Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #22 on: 13 November, 2018, 05:41:43 pm »
A friend of mine started a cycle tour company. The idea being he'd get to ride all year round in the sunshine in the worlds best spots.

I've done some ride leading for him, I think the reality is it's a massive exercise in logistics and herding cats. The punters are incredibly needy. He puts a smile on, but i don't think I could hack it full time.

I spent a summer leading bicycle tours for a US company, leading US tourists in the Salzburg area. "Incredibly needy" is about as nicely as I can describe those people. On the positive side, I had some great times cycling around France in between tours.

citoyen

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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #23 on: 13 November, 2018, 07:39:36 pm »
My understanding is that reading audio books is also very poorly rewarded - unless you can pass yourself off as Stephen Fry or someone. I've thought about it too, as I have had unsolicited favourable comments about the quality of my voice (both spoken and sung!) but have never got a round tuit.

I used to do it regularly as a volunteer for the RNID when I was a student - reading text books onto tape for deaf fellow students. It was interesting, and a great way of broadening my own education by reading things I’d never have looked at otherwise. But that was the full extent of my reward - I don’t imagine they would have had funds spare to pay for it (though they did have a well equipped recording studio - a good use of their limited resources).

Mind you, with my voice, I reckon they could have operated a profitable sideline in selling copies of the tapes as sleep aids.

Anyway, if it’s something you’re interested in doing, contact the RNID because I imagine they probably still need this service.
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Re: Making your hobby your career
« Reply #24 on: 13 November, 2018, 07:42:16 pm »
My understanding is that reading audio books is also very poorly rewarded - unless you can pass yourself off as Stephen Fry or someone. I've thought about it too, as I have had unsolicited favourable comments about the quality of my voice (both spoken and sung!) but have never got a round tuit.

I used to do it regularly as a volunteer for the RNID when I was a student - reading text books onto tape for deaf fellow students. It was interesting, and a great way of broadening my own education by reading things I’d never have looked at otherwise. But that was the full extent of my reward - I don’t imagine they would have had funds spare to pay for it (though they did have a well equipped recording studio - a good use of their limited resources).

Mind you, with my voice, I reckon they could have operated a profitable sideline in selling copies of the tapes as sleep aids.

Anyway, if it’s something you’re interested in doing, contact the RNID because I imagine they probably still need this service.

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