Reopening of PBP registration for 1500 places.

[zacklaws]

I saw this on the PBP website last night and surprised it has not already been mentioned on here that due to 1500 failures to register, they have now reopened up registration for 1500 more people with just a qualify BRM. Details are sketchy though if that means just one ride or all four qualifiers. Closing date 3rd July.

At the moment, there are about a 1000 places left up for grabs.

In fact, just seen this was added to another thread, but as at present:-

From the website:-

Due to a considerable number of abandoned pre-registrations (1500), opening of registrations to everybody (with qualifying BRM) until July, 3rd.


Date   Time limit   Remaining places
18/08   80h00   127
18/08   90h00   633
19/08   84h00   243

[vorsprung]

I'd like to move my departure time to earlier if possible
It's 19:15 atm - this was the earliest left when I registered
Any ideas?

[Exit Stage Left]

I was keen to encourage Michael Broadwith to enter PBP, as Gethin Butler entered in 2003, having got the LEJOG record in 2001. There's also a connection with Hubert Opperman.

The pre-qualification stipulation knocked that on the head, so I didn't pursue the idea. I wonder if ACP would be open to the idea of qualification via the 24, as in the early days of UK involvement?

[eddum]

I'd like to move my departure time to earlier if possible
It's 19:15 atm - this was the earliest left when I registered
Any ideas?

Ditto... looks like that's still locked down when I look at my entry.

[New bie]

I was keen to encourage Michael Broadwith to enter PBP, as Gethin Butler entered in 2003, having got the LEJOG record in 2001. There's also a connection with Hubert Opperman.

The pre-qualification stipulation knocked that on the head, so I didn't pursue the idea. I wonder if ACP would be open to the idea of qualification via the 24, as in the early days of UK involvement?

I would be interested in participating too, unfortunately, it is too late for brevets now. Please let me know, if they agree with any other way to get a place.

[jiberjaber]

I'd like to move my departure time to earlier if possible
It's 19:15 atm - this was the earliest left when I registered
Any ideas?

Ditto... looks like that's still locked down when I look at my entry.

Same here - looks like it might be a done deal

[Dtcman]

I'd like to move my departure time to earlier if possible
It's 19:15 atm - this was the earliest left when I registered
Any ideas?

Ditto... looks like that's still locked down when I look at my entry.

Same here - looks like it might be a done deal

Same here, still locked down

[caferaca]

"Due to a considerable number of abandoned pre-registrations (1500), opening of registrations to everybody (with qualifying BRM) until July, 3rd."

What does this mean, one BRM any distance or the full SR ? I like many other I imagine, abandoned my SR when I couldn't get a place. That and a sprained ankle.

[bairn again]

"Due to a considerable number of abandoned pre-registrations (1500), opening of registrations to everybody (with qualifying BRM) until July, 3rd."

What does this mean, one BRM any distance or the full SR ? I like many other I imagine, abandoned my SR when I couldn't get a place. That and a sprained ankle.

Im taking that to mean a valid SR series in the 2019 qualifying window regardless of 2018 rides (rather than also requiring a relevant 2018 pre qualifier that wasnt enough to pre qualify).

Of course, folk who thought they were out the running for PBP when pre qualifying closed might have not ridden a full qualifying SR in 2019 and now cant do so. 

Its a bit of a mess. 

[caferaca]

Yeah mess indeed. I've emailed them for clarification.

[cygnet]

"Due to a considerable number of abandoned pre-registrations (1500), opening of registrations to everybody (with qualifying BRM) until July, 3rd."

What does this mean, one BRM any distance or the full SR ? I like many other I imagine, abandoned my SR when I couldn't get a place. That and a sprained ankle.

Im taking that to mean a valid SR series in the 2019 qualifying window regardless of 2018 rides (rather than also requiring a relevant 2018 pre qualifier that wasnt enough to pre qualify).

Of course, folk who thought they were out the running for PBP when pre qualifying closed might have not ridden a full qualifying SR in 2019 and now cant do so. 

Its a bit of a mess.

I'd guess they used "qualifying BRM" instead of SR as ACP are strict on the definition of an SR but allow longer distances to be substituted for PBP entry

[Exit Stage Left]

How many pre-registrations weren't taken up in 2015?

[vorsprung]

"Due to a considerable number of abandoned pre-registrations (1500), opening of registrations to everybody (with qualifying BRM) until July, 3rd."

What does this mean, one BRM any distance or the full SR ? I like many other I imagine, abandoned my SR when I couldn't get a place. That and a sprained ankle.

I very much doubt that they will let anyone ride without a full 200/300/400/600 SR unless they have friends in the ACP
There must be a few people with a full set of SR who didn't enter earlier on

[simonp]

I was talking to a rider yesterday who has qualified but no prequalifier and I suggested to him that ACP would open up places. Good to know he'll get in.

[caferaca]

Reply back from the organisers, a full SR series is required.
See you in 4 years hopefully. Good luck to all you riders, have a great time.

[BerlinMatt]

I think that once you have added all your brevet numbers you are locked in. I could change my start time, my brother who's reg. was complete couldn't.

[Wycombewheeler]

I don't think they opened up 1500 places. I think they opened up  about 1000 places due to the 1500 dropouts exceeding their expectations. They had previously made a statement that they had oversold places to meet demand.

I wonder if the dropout rate increased because people who weren't sure they would do it had to enter or lose their chance.

[Exit Stage Left]

I wonder if the dropout rate increased because people who weren't sure they would do it had to enter or lose their chance.

A lot of marketing is based on 'Your Last Chance'. This seems to be amplified in Audax because it's an activity defined by deadlines. There are a lot of other time-dependent factors in play, the cost of transport and accommodation vary with demand.

Qualification is also a mind-game with yourself. For €30 you can transform an SR series into a high-stakes game, amplifying the motivational factor. If you wait until after qualifying to price up PBP, it may be beyond your budget, but the €30 has been good value. It's a small price to pay for a dream that increases your fitness.

There's a large contrast with my PBPs in 2007 and before. First you qualified, then you entered. Accommodation was a cheap campsite close to the start. Along the way there was never any thought of anything being sold out. That culture persists in Semaine Federale.

The kind of planning that participants from outside Europe were first subject to has been imposed on those based closer to the event. It has weeded out those with a more casual approach, so there'll be 1,000 less 'happy go lucky' riders. They'll just go to Semaine Federale, and spend more money there.

[Phil W]

I am awaiting my fourth ACP number before completing registration; so am not locked down.

I can change my start between the different start groups, and even switch between ordinary needs and special needs.  The earliest 90hr start with available places is 18:45 with one place remaining. So not a lot for you to gain.

[JBB]

I am awaiting my fourth ACP number before completing registration; so am not locked down.

I can change my start between the different start groups, and even switch between ordinary needs and special needs.  The earliest 90hr start with available places is 18:45 with one place remaining. So not a lot for you to gain.

It would all help! I would prefer an earlier start time but can't change anything. Slightly irritating but guess I'll just have to live with it.

[SheniJ]

Just received an email giving the opportunity to change start times, so you might get lucky.....I’m sticking with my 18.30 slot.

Dear riders

In order to satisfy the many change of departure time requests, we have added an option to change your departure time, as far as your frame plate number has not been allocated.
If possible, we invite you to choose a departure time with more free slots.

Regards,

The PBP organising board

[jsabine]

Managed to shift from 2100 to 1930 - I'm a touch resentful of the 2241 seconds the email took to get to me!

3 places left in the 2000 group, and I don't think they'll last long.

[JBB]

Managed to shift from 2100 to 1930 - I'm a touch resentful of the 2241 seconds the email took to get to me!

3 places left in the 2000 group, and I don't think they'll last long.

Bum, early night means the best I can do is 20.15,  still that's half an hour more daylight ....

[Ivo]

No more improved places available so I stuck to my old starting time of 18.15.

[eddum]

Still at 19:15 (-31 places)... riding partner is at 18:45 (-8 places) next best option is to both move to 20:30 ... hummm.
Guess I'll just have to ride a bit faster.