Author Topic: Will bikes exist in 2050?  (Read 6610 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #25 on: 17 January, 2023, 05:36:15 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSqLfuRN18
So Boris Johnson is a time traveller from the year 3535.

(It's surely telling that for a song about the distant future, they didn't even invent a new tune...  ::-) )
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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #26 on: 17 January, 2023, 05:38:02 pm »
In the days of £50 litres of petrol and roaming gangs of Blackshirts smashing up EV's all we will have left is our bicycles.

Better stock up with spare parts now ...

Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #27 on: 17 January, 2023, 08:02:22 pm »
In 2050 will anyone still use a manual bike, with no gps tracking or rider registration? Will e-bikes have taken over the market? Will the push to autonomous vehicles put detection of bikes in the "too difficult " pile and limit us to Sustrans pavement routes?

In the unlikely event that civilisation as we know it still exists in 2050. Yes, traditional acoustic bikes will still be a thing. There's nothing better for efficiency of moving humans about.

J

Assuming that moving humans about is an important thing…
It might be handy to migrate with the seasons.

Or an updated form of hunting, bikes instead of horses, Tories instead of foxes.

telstarbox

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #28 on: 18 January, 2023, 06:50:35 pm »
Presumably the OP had a presumption that we confine the question to Europe and North America.  AIUI there are about a billion bicycles in the world, most of them owned by people from elsewhere with limited incomes, poor infrastructure and not much access to electricity.  You'd need to change all this before those billion bikes get scrapped and replaced with ebikes.

If the affluent western consumer is still around in 2050 they'll no doubt have found something better to do

That was my assumption sorry - very good point. I was thinking of the places where autonomous vehicles might come forward first as they have the potential to upend transport as we know it, even for people who don't use cars at the moment.
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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #29 on: 18 January, 2023, 07:27:42 pm »
Cycles are more likely to continue in use in 2050 than e cycles I  suspect that all power will be at a premium by then and reserved for essential use 🤔
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quixoticgeek

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #30 on: 18 January, 2023, 08:34:39 pm »

I'd say it's more likely that we'll all be riding around on acoustic bikes in 2050, than any of us are in self driving cars on anything other than very specially designed roads for such.

J
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Kim

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #31 on: 18 January, 2023, 09:22:40 pm »
I'd say it's more likely that we'll all be riding around on acoustic bikes in 2050, than any of us are in self driving cars on anything other than very specially designed roads for such.

Except maybe the ones with steel rails and overhead charging infrastructure...

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #32 on: 18 January, 2023, 09:39:07 pm »
Shirely only oligarchs and dictators will have access to elastic trickery by 2050?

mattc

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #33 on: 20 January, 2023, 05:46:38 pm »
First draft sales pitch for the e-bike concept:


At least there's nothing special about e-bikes recycling-wise.  It can go in the same pile as all the other electronic waste.
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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #34 on: 20 January, 2023, 06:17:30 pm »
Given the current trend towards a greater focus on sustainability and alternative transportation methods, there is a good chance that bicycles will continue to be an important part of the transportation landscape in 2050.

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #36 on: 21 January, 2023, 08:20:53 pm »
BBC piece with video: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-64354089

I get the impression that Finland has the right attitude and will still be cycling by 2050. I have seen a TV documentary on the cycling network in Denmark and it is similar in the focus on and determination to have and maintain an effective cycle infrastucture.

Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #37 on: 22 May, 2023, 11:46:50 am »
When I went to China in 1996, there were bikes everywhere. They were the old sit up and beg type, rod brakes, single gear, full mudguards etc Everything could be fixed with a hammer, a screwdriver and a spanner. People rode 2 up, and at essentially a fast walking pace. People didn't have padlocks, you just paid some bike parking lot attendant guy a fraction of a penny and he would put a paper ticket in your brake lever to indicate you paid.  When I went back in the 2000s, the old school bikes were replaced with BSOs with front and rear suspension, but they were for kids/young adults as most adults had upgraded to motor scooters.  When I went back a few years ago, it was electric and petrol scooters and I didn't really see any bikes, other than for small kids. Now it's electric cars, bikes and scooters, and they all connect to your phone.  Utility bikes are in economic terms are inferior goods, the more your income rises, the less you want one.

I learnt about bikes by breaking my own bikes until I could fix them.  You just fiddled with the cables until things worked, there were no manuals, and you just had to figure things out. Now I'd say that modern bike maintenance is beyond the limit of what can be done intuitively. Everything I do now is after watching at least 2 or 3 instructional videos on youtube. There are too many specialised bits, and non interchangeable parts.  There's always the hope that 3d printing will actually manage to make something hard wearing but most people won't have access. Now if a bike breaks it gets binned. My frames either crack or the bike gets nicked.

Currently London is awash with hordes of food delivery riders riding illegal bikes, now the batteries are starting to blow up cause fire, and cause fatalities in Houses of mulitple occupation, there will be a crackdown, and hopefully licensing.  These bike riders aren't buying parts from bike shops, they can't fix or service the bikes themselves, there's some shady parallel e bike world we know nothing about.  However the element that will change over the next 20 years, will be they will remove the human, and some AI guidance system will get your takeaway to you.


The bikes that will still exisit in 25 years time will be rental bikes such as Boris bikes/lime bikes, with maintenance being handled by roving bands of robots.


The current spate of carbon electronic shifting road bikes I predict will go the way of the penny farthing. Museum pieces only.

Bromptons will still be around of course, but they will be the same price as a small flat.








quixoticgeek

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #38 on: 22 May, 2023, 10:32:10 pm »
The bikes that will still exisit in 25 years time will be rental bikes such as Boris bikes/lime bikes, with maintenance being handled by roving bands of robots.

The current spate of carbon electronic shifting road bikes I predict will go the way of the penny farthing. Museum pieces only.

Bromptons will still be around of course, but they will be the same price as a small flat.

That's an incredibly pessimistic prediction for the future. I also think it's completely wrong. There's more chance of bikes out living all the other technologies than there are of the new technologies taking over.

Sure there are electric vehicles with "self driving" capability driving down the roads, but there's still the same old oma fiets riding round that haven't seen a drop of lubrication since they were built. The simple economics of it win if nothing else.

Bikes give you a level of freedom that motor vehicles (be it powered by voles, or dinosaurs) can not. Very few people need a job just to keep their bike on the road. Where as a lot of people have to keep their job, so they can pay to keep their car on the road, which they need so they can drive to work.

The revolution will not be motorised.

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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Will bikes exist in 2050?
« Reply #39 on: 23 May, 2023, 10:40:07 am »
The revolution will not be motorised.

J
Nor will it worry about the tiger in its tank. But it will make you look five pounds thinner and give your mouth sex appeal. You will be able to stroll through whatever district you want wearing whatever you please and we will all be living in a brighter day.
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