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Title: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: slope on 17 February, 2019, 04:14:49 pm
5 days into starting a fresh all new sourdough starter, it's going mental. I can see it moving, expanding, bubbling, growing and about to overflow the jar!

What does one do?

1 litre jar, lid cocked at an angle not airtight. Began with 40g of wholemeal rye/80g strong white + 120ml water. Added the same again 2 days later - so starter is 480g. Then next 3 days, discarding half and replenishing daily with 40/80 flour and 120 water to maintain the 480g total, in the morning.

Today it's going nuts by 2pm! I stirred it back down and now its 4pm and going crazy again! Kitchen not that warm.
 
Help!?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7914/47124781501_0fdb720430_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Kim on 17 February, 2019, 05:29:37 pm
Take off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Jurek on 17 February, 2019, 05:36:51 pm
Rrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnn!!!!!!

ETA:
You're gonna need a bigger boat bowl [/Chief Brody]
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Basil on 17 February, 2019, 05:48:31 pm
https://youtu.be/TdUsyXQ8Wrs
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Jurek on 17 February, 2019, 05:56:27 pm
https://youtu.be/TdUsyXQ8Wrs
At 1:38 there's a tenuous link to home baking.
Just sayin'
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 17 February, 2019, 07:08:55 pm
Make bread with it...
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 February, 2019, 07:50:16 pm
Invite some exciting young people round for a baking party.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Pingu on 17 February, 2019, 08:03:59 pm
Do not clench...
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Vernon on 17 February, 2019, 11:14:36 pm
Discard three quarters and replenish with 60g flour and 60g water (i.e. halve your starter). I keep 120g of starter on the go - you don't need loads.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: slope on 18 February, 2019, 07:16:27 am
Discard three quarters and replenish with 60g flour and 60g water (i.e. halve your starter). I keep 120g of starter on the go - you don't need loads.

That sounds like a cunning plan  :thumbsup:

Here's what I woke up to -

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7844/47079710512_07f9fb86fb_o.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7888/47079710982_7f39b00bec_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Vernon on 18 February, 2019, 07:52:15 am
Oh yeah, and make pancakes or oatcakes with the excess.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Jakob W on 18 February, 2019, 08:54:26 am
Crikey! If it's that active, I'd say it's time to start baking. I do sourdough at long enough intervals that my starter lives in the fridge most of the time. Some folks recommend a couple of days of feed/refresh cycles for a starter out of the fridge, but I find that a refresh late afternoon/early evening perks mine up enough to do an overnight sponge before I go to bed. As Vernon says, sourdough pancakes are an excellent use for surplus starter.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2019, 05:02:40 pm
I have never had a starter that frisky.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 18 February, 2019, 05:03:08 pm
Oh yeah, and make pancakes or oatcakes with the excess.
With bacunz & maple syrup, natch. :P
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: hellymedic on 18 February, 2019, 10:33:59 pm
I suspect the Rabbis of yore must have known some frisky flour.

Flour and water mixture must be baked within 18 minutes or it is deemed 'leavened'...
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Kim on 18 February, 2019, 10:36:30 pm
I suspect the Rabbis of yore must have known some frisky flour.

Flour and water mixture must be baked within 18 minutes or it is deemed 'leavened'...

Yeah, I like to think there's a story behind how they arrived at that particular definition...
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2019, 10:50:05 pm
18 minutes is peculiarly precise. Especially considering that if the rule is sufficiently old, they wouldn't even have been using hours (at least not as we know them).
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: slope on 19 February, 2019, 08:12:35 am
Slope is back in control ;D for the moment at least. Carrying over slightly less mother starter to feed and using cold water meant the 'growth' peaked before the top of the jar and was slower getting there  :thumbsup: Plus there's a few Staffordhire oatcakes in the freezer  :P
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: hellymedic on 19 February, 2019, 03:16:23 pm
18 minutes is peculiarly precise. Especially considering that if the rule is sufficiently old, they wouldn't even have been using hours (at least not as we know them).

AIUI an 'hour' was 1/12 or the time between dawn and dusk.

I presume the '18 minutes', was originally 1/40 of this interval.

In human terms it's approximately the time to have a coffee break but only a fraction of a lesson.

[Totally OT] We had a somewhat whacky/nerdy teacher who was in charge of organising the timetable. He split the school day into 20 minute 'modules'. One module for assembly or break, two for a standard lesson, eight for A Level practicals...]
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 February, 2019, 03:35:19 pm
That was my understanding of the Roman hour too. Whether there was a Jewish hour that pre-dated it, I have no idea. But then nor do I know how far back this ruling on leaving the leavening goes.
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: hellymedic on 19 February, 2019, 03:45:05 pm
Nor do I but Wiki gives some other background...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chametz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chametz)

I note etymological Arabic 'sour' with 'leavening'...
Title: Re: Help! Sourdough starter about to go crazy and spread all over the kitchen?
Post by: andrewc on 03 March, 2019, 03:05:17 pm
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/03/forget-growing-weed-make-yeast-spit-out-cbd-and-thc-instead/ (https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/03/forget-growing-weed-make-yeast-spit-out-cbd-and-thc-instead/)