[HAMR] Tarzan (Kurt Searvogel)

[LittleWheelsandBig]

Most time trials have offset start times, usually measured in minutes, and TTs are definitely races.

[Exit Stage Left]

It is too late for them. The riders are demonstrably insane, just for wanting to tackle this record.

It's strange how distance shrinks, the more you do of it. Time and travel don't occupy a fixed space, as the mind discards information it's already seen. Then there's the way that endurance exercise increases the cell mitochondria in the brain.
There's a whole lot of biochemistry going on that might warrant some research.

[citoyen]

Of course it's a race. First defn from google is
" a contest of speed"
...  which it most certainly is.

Most time trials have offset start times, usually measured in minutes, and TTs are definitely races.

OK, you've convinced me. Not that I needed much convincing. It's definitely a race.

[Ningishzidda]

I may have this wrong,  but don't the competitors in TimeTrials start and finish at the SAME two points on the Earth's surface and follow the SAME route between?

"Latest sports news flash. Manchester United scored 234 goals at St James' Park while Chelsea scored 256 goals at Villa Park. That means Chelsea won by 22 goals."
Weren't they supposed to be playing on the same pitch?
"No, that doesn't matter. They were both playing football."
Football pitches can be different sizes.
"That doesn't matter either. I've already said, stupid, they were both playing football."

Calling Kurt and Steve's record attempts a 'race' is a chronic misinterpretation of reality.

[mattc]

I may have this wrong,  but don't the competitors in TimeTrials start and finish at the SAME two points on the Earth's surface and follow the SAME route between?

"Latest sports news flash. Manchester United scored 234 goals at St James' Park while Chelsea scored 256 goals at Villa Park. That means Chelsea won by 22 goals."
Weren't they supposed to be playing on the same pitch?
"No, that doesn't matter. They were both playing football."
Football pitches can be different sizes.
"That doesn't matter either. I've already said, stupid, they were both playing football."

Calling Kurt and Steve's record attempts a 'race' is a chronic misinterpretation of reality.

And next you'll be saying the record won't count unless there's a World War on 

(and what about round-the-world yacht racing? )

[andyoxon]

Still not quite sure I see it as a race, more of an extreme endurance test for two independent participants, and perhaps, more than a race...  Though I'm not quite sure what I mean by this...   

[LittleWheelsandBig]

I believe there was a race to be the first to reach the South Pole. Hopefully all participants in this particular race will survive the experience.

[Wowbagger]

I believe there was a race to be the first to reach the South Pole. Hopefully all participants in this particular race will survive the experience.

Steve should be OK. I understand he doesn't eat porridge, and therefore doesn't have anything to do with Oates.

[citoyen]

Although he has gone out and may be some time.

[Otto]

I believe there was a race to be the first to reach the South Pole. Hopefully all participants in this particular race will survive the experience.

Steve should be OK. I understand he doesn't eat porridge, and therefore doesn't have anything to do with Oates.

Taxi for Wowbagger

[citoyen]

I may have this wrong,  but don't the competitors in TimeTrials start and finish at the SAME two points on the Earth's surface and follow the SAME route between?

TT records aren't course-dependent though, are they?

Neither Steve or Kurt are using the same route as Tommy G.

[Hummers]

When did it become a ‘Race’?

Maybe 'race' isn't quite the mot juste but it's most definitely a contest. And all the more exciting for it.

Of course it's a race. First defn from google is
" a contest of speed"
...  which it most certainly is.

The only debatable aspect is the offset start times,  but that is splitting hairs. It's still about who averages the highest speed over 365 days.

....plus note the word 'contest'.

It is a competition, there will only be one winner.

Go Go Go Go STEVE!!

H

[PAC]

When did it become a ‘Race’?

Maybe 'race' isn't quite the mot juste but it's most definitely a contest. And all the more exciting for it.

Of course it's a race. First defn from google is
" a contest of speed"
...  which it most certainly is.

The only debatable aspect is the offset start times,  but that is splitting hairs. It's still about who averages the highest speed over 365 days.

....plus note the word 'contest'.

It is a competition, there will only be one winner.

Go Go Go Go STEVE!!

H

^Yessssssss! 

[IanDG]

Flying today in a west to east direction, but then there was a 24mph westerly wind when he started. Would have been stupid not to have taken advantage of it.

[Jaded]

2. How will the riders avoid going insane?

Steve can compose his acceptance speech for when he receives his knighthood.

Or BBC Sports Personality of the Year

For that he'd need to be available for loads of media whoring this year.

I'm not sure that's going to happen.

Or, you need:

a) The panel to put Steve up in the shortlist.
b) about 300,000 cyclists to vote for him on the night.

[jsabine]

It's still about who averages the highest speed over 365 days.

Well, only if you take the audax definition of speed and include all the time off the bike. If Steve gets it, his moving average will almost certainly still be lower than Kurt's.

[Jaded]

It's still about who averages the highest speed over 365 days.

You are gotted that wrongly

[red marley]

But one of the challenges of OYTT is that it really is the average speed that counts, as measured over every second of the year. There must be tremendous pressure when not riding as the clock is always ticking and there is no letup. Hats off to all three riders and those that have attempted it in the past.

[mattc]

But one of the challenges of OYTT is that it really is the average speed that counts, as measured over every second of the year. There must be tremendous pressure when not riding as the clock is always ticking and there is no letup. Hats off to all three riders and those that have attempted it in the past.

Yup - same as any other bike race in fact!

The tourDeF doesn't stop the clock for pee-stops,  its just like Audax in that sense. So your pedantry is wrong this time,  js

[Jack_P]

The ape man has a video up showing he snapped his bars of his bike yesterday, fork failed. very fortunate he didn't crash and has backup. 

[mattc]

ive just watched that!!!

(I think it was the steerer where it leaves the head-tube)

that is bad luck - and quite a good excuse for a support vehicle.

Of course Steve would have fixed it with a stick splint ....

[Ham]

Interesting validation of Steve's choice of steel....

[Wowbagger]

The ape man has a video up showing he snapped his bars of his bike yesterday, fork failed. very fortunate he didn't crash and has backup.

Do you have a link to that, perchance? I visited Tarzan's website but couldn't find any videos.

[hillbilly]

That could have been nasty.  I see his left forearm is heavily bandaged - I'm presuming he came off, hopefully not a speed.

[hillbilly]

It's on Facebook.  Search for Kurt searvogel ham'r.