Author Topic: [HAMR] Tarzan (Kurt Searvogel)  (Read 450525 times)

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1000 on: 05 February, 2015, 06:06:52 pm »
There is the minor discrepancy of 6km of one car transfer recorded in one of the tracks, but otherwise, this looks internally consistent to me.

I believe 26th Jan is the ride with the vehicle transfer included. I thought it was more like 10km and 6 miles. He or whoever updates his webpage has also recorded the incorrect distance.

Although it will be a very small % of the overall total - probably far lower than that created by GPS tracking over the year, it's about time he got it sorted as he is fully aware of it.

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1001 on: 05 February, 2015, 07:00:37 pm »
[quote author=IanG link=topic=87329.msg1808574#msg1808574 date=1423155794.

Results and daily averages also here
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great stuff! This table deserves a permalink  as well!
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1002 on: 06 February, 2015, 02:08:12 am »
Kurt was hit by a car jumping a stop-sign today  :(  but thankfully he kept it upright.
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1003 on: 06 February, 2015, 02:23:28 am »
That sounded like bad news - his last comment was "Now, my arm is frozen" and he didn't mean temperature-wise.

OK, he's ridden about over 5000 miles in less than 4 weeks, but he seems to be having a lot of scrapes - or worse - with cars. Are the Floridian drivers especially bad? Or is it a US-wide thing?
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1004 on: 06 February, 2015, 02:33:03 am »
That sounded like bad news - his last comment was "Now, my arm is frozen" and he didn't mean temperature-wise.

Oh, I thought it was "Now-- I'm just frozen". Which sounds more weather related.

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Are the Floridian drivers especially bad? Or is it a US-wide thing?

Both.

My Californian friends seem to continually be winding up their Floridian facebook peers over relative driving conditions. Just today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/29/bicyclist-fights-use-full-lane-wins/22524631/
http://navarrepress.com/headlines/no-charges-bicyclists-death/


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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1005 on: 06 February, 2015, 06:23:51 am »
Not cool :(

Fingers crossed he doesn't suffer ill effects from that incident.

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1006 on: 06 February, 2015, 07:47:19 am »
I hope Kurt's luck improves soon. Perhaps somebody is sticking pins into a voodoo doll?
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1007 on: 06 February, 2015, 08:04:09 am »
These are the daily distances as I have been retrieving them from Strava. There is the minor discrepancy of 6km of one car transfer recorded in one of the tracks, but otherwise, this looks internally consistent to me.
   Date      Steve (miles)      Kurt (miles)   
   1 Jan      222.6          
...
   4 Feb      200.4      196.3   
   Total      6501.0      5230.1   
   Average      185.7      201.2   

I notice Steve was 1655.3 miles ahead when Kurt started, and is now 1270.9 miles ahead, an average daily reduction of ~15mls (BMC) - and Steve is having to contend with the British winter.  It'll be spring soon...

Go Steve!
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1008 on: 06 February, 2015, 08:20:11 am »
Are the Floridian drivers especially bad? Or is it a US-wide thing?

Not helped by all the "snowbirds" down there at the moment.
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1009 on: 06 February, 2015, 08:55:37 am »
That's bad luck again.  I hope he doesn't suffer a lasting injury (or bike damage) from it.
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hillbilly

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1010 on: 06 February, 2015, 08:59:28 am »
These are the daily distances as I have been retrieving them from Strava. There is the minor discrepancy of 6km of one car transfer recorded in one of the tracks, but otherwise, this looks internally consistent to me.
   Date      Steve (miles)      Kurt (miles)   
   1 Jan      222.6          
...
   4 Feb      200.4      196.3   
   Total      6501.0      5230.1   
   Average      185.7      201.2   

I notice Steve was 1655.3 miles ahead when Kurt started, and is now 1270.9 miles ahead, an average daily reduction of ~15mls (BMC) - and Steve is having to contend with the British winter.  It'll be spring soon...

Go Steve!

So, if I project that rate of attrition, Steve will come a distant second  :demon:

More seriously, it will be informative when Steve starts to narrow those daily losses, and then again when he starts to reverse the difference.  Kurt will have the advantage again for the last two months of 2015, so it is by no means easy for Steve to claw back to parity and then put in a sufficient buffer that Kurt just can't recover it.  In fact, it's going to be bloody difficult, because Kurt is always going to know how many more times round the block he needs to ride and so Steve is going to have to grind him down into submission. 

Forget the chess match that WB mentioned, this is more like chess boxing and the pugilists are landing jabs at the moment testing out for weak spots before they come out swinging.

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1011 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:03:39 am »
If one had 6,000 calories to spend to ride 200 miles, would one spend them at 8 cals/min at 16 mph, or 10 cals/min at 20 mph?

Will the amount of recovery required due to repeated 10 cals/min rides be too much, and lead to eventual exhaustion?

Will 2.5 hours less recovery after 8 cals/min rides be a disadvantage?

Whose strategy will prevail?

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1012 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:12:31 am »
If one had 6,000 calories to spend to ride 200 miles, would one spend them at 8 cals/min at 16 mph, or 10 cals/min at 20 mph?

Will the amount of recovery required due to repeated 10 cals/min rides be too much, and lead to eventual exhaustion?

Will 2.5 hours less recovery after 8 cals/min rides be a disadvantage?

Whose strategy will prevail?

We don't know!  That's the fun part  :thumbsup:

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1013 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:14:18 am »
Poor Kurt - he looks a bit shaken but ok in the video. At his kind of speeds I don't think I would touch a pavement bike track with a barge pole.

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1014 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:19:04 am »
If the record is not about riding as far as possible in a calendar year but in 365 consecutive days, it there anything (apart, potentially, from physical or pychological ability) that prevents Steve from carrying on after Dec. 31, 2015 until he runs Tarzan into the ground?
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1015 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:23:36 am »
I think you need to state a start date.

simonp

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1016 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:25:00 am »
You have to give prior notice of start date. So it'd be unofficial. Just like godwin's 77,000 miles.

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1017 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:43:55 am »
I suppose there would be nothing to stop him sending in another entry fee after two months and having concurrent/overlapping attempts? Or do the rules specifically prevent this?

WRT Tarzan's "frozen" comment, I wasn't 100% sure of his comment but listened several times. I checked the temperature from his map as soon as I heard it - 59°F. That was about 9 pm his time. I wouldn't have thought that he would be feeling cold under those circumstances. He doesn't give the impression of being a delicate flower. ;)
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1018 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:46:50 am »
Hope that Kurt, or Steve, doesn't succumb to a nasty injury, illness or mechanical.  I know it's all part of it, but I would like to see the result based on the miles covered rather than the one who didn't succumb to major bad luck. 

Chess-boxing-bicycling - even better than the 2012 TdF  :thumbsup:
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1019 on: 06 February, 2015, 09:51:53 am »
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Watch out for three things in southern Florida: a mugger with a switchblade, a Cuban with a driver's license and a Yankee towing a U-Haul rental trailer.


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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1020 on: 06 February, 2015, 10:24:04 am »
Poor Kurt - he looks a bit shaken but ok in the video. At his kind of speeds I don't think I would touch a pavement bike track with a barge pole.

Neither would I!  But he said it was exiting from the hotel. so I dunno if he had much choice.
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1021 on: 06 February, 2015, 10:46:06 am »

Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1022 on: 06 February, 2015, 10:54:02 am »
If one had 6,000 calories to spend to ride 200 miles, would one spend them at 8 cals/min at 16 mph, or 10 cals/min at 20 mph?

Will the amount of recovery required due to repeated 10 cals/min rides be too much, and lead to eventual exhaustion?

Will 2.5 hours less recovery after 8 cals/min rides be a disadvantage?

Whose strategy will prevail?

We don't know!  That's the fun part  :thumbsup:

We've another eleven months of this.  ;D

Plus all the analysis debate throughout the remainder of the decade.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1023 on: 06 February, 2015, 11:15:02 am »
WRT Tarzan's "frozen" comment, I wasn't 100% sure of his comment but listened several times. I checked the temperature from his map as soon as I heard it - 59°F. That was about 9 pm his time. I wouldn't have thought that he would be feeling cold under those circumstances. He doesn't give the impression of being a delicate flower. ;)
On another page he mentions hypothermia in the first 20km.
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Re: Tarzan.
« Reply #1024 on: 06 February, 2015, 11:38:49 am »
So it seems he's uninjured. I hope it continues that way for both him and Steve.
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