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barakta

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1275 on: 13 September, 2016, 04:59:23 pm »
I hope they work out what's causing them and you get some better body luck soon.

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1276 on: 13 September, 2016, 08:52:26 pm »
Sorry to hear of your issues mrcharly, sounds frightening.

In other rubbish news, my brother has maccular degeneration in both eyes. He's only 55  :-\
Do not clench. It only makes it worse.

barakta

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1277 on: 13 September, 2016, 09:34:00 pm »
Is that the nasty wet Macular Degeneration kind Mrs Pingu?  My mum has the dry kind which is apparently 'less bad'.

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1278 on: 13 September, 2016, 10:42:23 pm »
He has the dry MD. He says the damage in one eye covers about 3x the area of the other. Is to go back next week for another imaging session so they can assess the initial rate of degradation.
Do not clench. It only makes it worse.

barakta

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1279 on: 14 September, 2016, 12:21:09 am »
Ugh, sounds much worse than my mum's which is just a small amount of visual glitch currently, although she doesn't need much to bollox up her visual processing as she's dyslexic and has appalling spatial awareness and proprioception.

If it gets to that stage, do advise your brother to find some "low vision" advice, there are a lot of strategies and support options to help people with slight impairments which may reduce the difficulty of not seeing well. Services are no where near promoted enough but do exist.

Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1280 on: 15 September, 2016, 01:55:09 pm »
I had a cast change today, which enabled me to find out what had actually been done.

A HUGE plate was put in. I swear it is bigger than the original radius, it actually wraps around the head of the radius. Taking no chances . . .

Stitches removed and things a lot more comfortable. Was a big relief to see my arm looking straight, before they wrapped it back up in a cast again.
Sadly I didn't get a pic of the plate scan, will make sure I do next time.
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barakta

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1281 on: 15 September, 2016, 02:22:20 pm »
Always fun seeing what they've done to you under the dressings. Glad it is more comfortable. How long are you in a cast for now?

Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1282 on: 15 September, 2016, 02:29:30 pm »
4 weeks - but only a very small cast and I can use my fingers (but not supposed to do it much ha ha).

Incision was surprisingly small, only about 5", they must have really stretched things to get the plate in and done the bone sawing. No wonder my arm was black and blue.
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barakta

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1283 on: 15 September, 2016, 02:35:10 pm »
Small casts ftw. Good luck not over using the fingers, that's surprisingly hard.

lou boutin

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1284 on: 15 September, 2016, 07:30:39 pm »
Keep on keeping in healing well Mr C

T42

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1285 on: 20 September, 2016, 01:10:42 pm »
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

Kim

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1286 on: 21 September, 2016, 12:01:33 am »
Because I haven't actually ranted about it on here yet, because it's been canonically discussed in the Other Place:

I only got as far as Maastricht under my own power on the recent Fridays' tour.   By the end of the fourth day I was suffering from being out in the heat too long, but also had some niggling achilles pain on the left side that I didn't think much of at the time.  The following day - ostensibly a rest day - I chose to ride on to Maastricht (couldn't go any further, because Belgians are allergic to having campsites in useful places) in order to cut the mileage on the day after that, which was also forecast to be insanely hot.

As I took it easy on the route from Aachen to Maastricht, the achilles pain returned with a vengeance, on both sides.  From then on, I was in pain pretty much every time I took a step or turned a pedal, with stairs and clipping in being excruciating.  I completed the rest of the tour primarily by rail, with a few kilometres of gentle cycling to join things up.  (Apart from the final morning when [REDACTED] changed the plan without telling me and I had to ride across Dunkirk in about 50 minutes, causing the whole thing - which seemed to be slowly improving - to flare up again).

So ...yeah.

I don't really know what caused it.  My educated guess is that the problem is inflammation around the tendons at the back of the ankles; it's not muscular, I haven't bashed them, it doesn't really hurt to prod, is more to do with range of motion than force and there was for a while some barely visible puffiness which has now gone.

Possible factors include:
- Riding long days back to back.  Nothing I haven't done before, but not recently.
- Riding in pan flat conditions.  I'm used to rolling hills.
- Prolonged group riding.  Normally I'm riding solo or tortoise/haring other riders.
- Newish SD65 sandals.  My usual pair are threatening to fail, so I used the new ones (same shoes I wore on the Normandy tour in June, and for various rides to break them in before that).
- Lots of crouching and crawling into tents wearing the above (but it's not like I haven't done weeks of camping with them before).
- Dehydration, exhaustion, sense of humour failure, etc. leading to poor pedalling technique towards the end of day 4.
- Karmic retribution for well-behaved Knees, trivial mechanicals, no major digestive episodes, etc.


Since I got home I've been wearing my well-worn veggie docs (best compromise between pressure on the ankle and extra stress on the achilles from walking on tiptoe / in flipflops) and generally trying to walk as little as possible, particularly stairs.  I haven't been near a bike.

It's now back to the point where it only really hurts on stairs, but I expect it wouldn't last if I walked any distance.

I'm working on the principle that I'll give it a week, and if it's not markedly improved, I'll start to think about medical attention.  Until then I'll just take it easy and be depressed by the prospect of this being a long term thing resulting in no proper bike rides until the middle of sodding winter, or worse.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1287 on: 21 September, 2016, 12:36:51 am »
Maybe see docs asap for prevention of longer term injury? Good luck with it either way.
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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1288 on: 21 September, 2016, 07:25:48 am »
Blimey Kim.  That doesn't sound good.  Hope it clears up soon.
Best wishes.
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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1289 on: 21 September, 2016, 07:42:20 am »
Sorry to hear that, Kim. Best see a doctor to be on the safe side. GWS!

Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1290 on: 21 September, 2016, 08:20:14 am »
Crouching stresses achilles something rotten. That combined with the pan-flat riding, so no variation in the position could do it.

If you have shoes with any sort of a heel (I don't mean narrow heels, something raised like boots or trainers with a fat wedge) they might ease the stress. flip-flops will be tight on achilles.
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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1291 on: 21 September, 2016, 10:59:17 am »
I would guess an acutetenosynovitis as a result of a lot of small changes.  new shoes, flat riding constant speed, etc.

Rest ice compression and elevation.  Ibuprofen if you can.

see a physio and look for some calf stretches and then gradual mobilisation.

T42

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1292 on: 21 September, 2016, 11:04:26 am »
Aw hell. My guess is dehydration and dead-flat terrain, for all that that'll help.
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

hellymedic

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1293 on: 21 September, 2016, 11:13:26 am »
The only time I had Achilles trouble was in my first year of Audax when I
Did a 300 with a grotty chest, then gained and lost 4kg (presumably water), then helped shift concert staging and continued my 200 miles/week upright riding.

So I had big fluid shifts and minor trauma. You might have had similar.

Being on the upright, I could minimise/eliminate ankling.
I found Voltarol/ibuprofen helpful.

Keep your ankles up and cool. (Camping head-down gave me the final cure 3 months on.)

Higher heels can help.

GWS!

Kim

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1294 on: 21 September, 2016, 01:36:45 pm »
Okay, that all makes sense.

I forgot to say that I ate my way through the stash of Naproxen that I had with me during the tour.  I've been avoiding NSAIs since I got back to give my digestive system a break, but could probably tolerate some ibuprofen now.

And yes, group riding.  Mostly of the pedal-pedal-pedal-coast-pedal-pedal-pedal-coast-coast-brake-coast-pedal-pedal-pedal variety.  That's not conducive to good biomechanics.

But my instinct is to blame the shoes.  I'll do a side-by-side comparison with the old ones and see if there's a marked difference in the flexibility of the rear strap.

hellymedic

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1295 on: 21 September, 2016, 01:51:28 pm »
My more conservative colleagues occasionally put those with the worst Achilles issues into below-knee casts.

Just do your very best to reduce ankle movements; your hips & knees can do most of the work and get well soon!

Try not to exceed 48 hours on NSAIDS.

Chris S

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« Reply #1296 on: 21 September, 2016, 03:58:02 pm »
I was recently explaining to fboab that blokes don't need a thermometer when they have a fever - they just need a graduated scale down one thigh; the degree of fever can then be measured by how low one's bollocks dangle.

Today I appear to be fighting a lurgy. As well as sweating more than Jimmy Saville in a Playground (that's not one of my sayings BTW - my son taught me that - so you can blame him), my nads are definitely in "Fuck me, it's hot around here" mode.

Also - all I want to do is sleep (on top of the covers).

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1297 on: 21 September, 2016, 04:51:03 pm »
My more conservative colleagues occasionally put those with the worst Achilles issues into below-knee casts.

Boabword that.


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Just do your very best to reduce ankle movements; your hips & knees can do most of the work and get well soon!

That's pretty much what I've been doing.  Avoiding crouching down is the big one, and a creative approach to stairs.

Fortunately for now, there appears to be an outbreak of computer programming weather...

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1298 on: 21 September, 2016, 08:26:10 pm »
Oh, I did a side-by-side comparison of the two sets of sandals.  Only real difference is that the rear strap is somewhat more flexible in the older ones.  But that could well be enough to cause problems.

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Re: The health and fitness thread about random things
« Reply #1299 on: 22 September, 2016, 09:14:34 am »
I've had some major Achilles issues in the last few years to the extent that I'm really not running much at all this year, only target being a New year's eve 10k I always run. No ultra's, no HMs, all very easy.

My experience
1) find a sports injury/sports rehab specialist, they will focus on keeping you moving AND the underlying issue if they are any good. Specifically get them to look at the rear chain, which is chronically tight/shortened in cyclists and runners.  I could probably get a contact for you if you want from therapists I trust, let me know where you are.
2) Do the exercises
3) have you got a sit/stand desk?  If not worth getting one, rear chain tightness, hip flexor degradation all influenced by prolonged sitting
4) start doing yoga
5) lots of calf raises 
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