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Title: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 15 November, 2021, 07:42:37 pm
Pre-pandemic we've occasionally done of my 200s, around Christmas/New Year to banish the blues/work off the Christmas cake etc, so I thought it was time to revive the idea ...

All welcome of course, (it's the ACME way) and maybe a just do a 100km, or even notanaudax for those allergic (OD)? 10:00 start so suitable for ECE-style for those wanting to ride a DIY 200? I am planning a pair of Hopstock Beer Festival Audaxes for 20th August next year, so would like to trial the 110km BP route. I'm working on the routesheet (for those who would do it as a mandatory route DIY) but basically it's an out-and-back run from the Compasses to Spoke Cafe near Codicote. I've been in touch with them (they're refreshingly keen to help - and I've been in there a few times during the pandemic) and I hope to have the definitive route sorted by sometime next week. It's lumpy, features two fords, of dubious rideability and is very laney: not so great if it's freezing or very wet. Plan B (weather-related wimping-out) would perhaps feature breakfast and a shorter sociable ride, then heading back to the Compasses.

I'm hoping for a club-run type of ride (depending on numbers and who 'ECEs' to a 200 and wants to crack on) with a long lunch break and evening meal at the Compasses.

I've spoken to Josser and pencilled in Wednesday 29th December. Book your breakfast there in advance if required. That's the MEMWNS venue sorted for later then?

If there's the demand for another ride then the Richard Ellis 100km permanent coulld be an option for another day, maybe before Christmas? I rode it reversed on Saturday and it's a lovely ride, though I say so myself!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: GdS on 15 November, 2021, 10:52:24 pm
Tomsk;

If it's going to be an official AUK 100 perm there's no problem to ECE (P) it to 200 via the usual process and I'll offer this for free! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 16 November, 2021, 05:25:42 am
Sounds good. I’ll most probably make the 29th Dec and ECE (P) if conditions allow. Thanks for the ‘discount’ offer GdS.

The pre-Christmas ride will depend on which day. As a hint, I have been known to ride a 200 on Christmas Eve to make good early progress on the Festive 500. Or the weekend before?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 16 November, 2021, 08:20:55 am
Tomsk;

If it's going to be an official AUK 100 perm there's no problem to ECE (P) it to 200 via the usual process and I'll offer this for free! :thumbsup:

 :thumbsup: Cheers! I'm definitely going for the sociable ride option. I'll have done my 200 for the month by then.

Sounds good. I’ll most probably make the 29th Dec and ECE (P) if conditions allow. Thanks for the ‘discount’ offer GdS.

The pre-Christmas ride will depend on which day. As a hint, I have been known to ride a 200 on Christmas Eve to make good early progress on the Festive 500. Or the weekend before?

If enough want to ride a Christmas Eve 100/200, Festive 500 or not then I'd be up for that. By Christmas Eve I'll have got catering organised and shouldn't have anything else on. Lets see who else can do the 24th.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Nik's Nick on 16 November, 2021, 01:06:37 pm
I could be tempted by a Christmas Eve ride, especially if I duck out of the Santa Special again. Would require careful negotiations, but as I'm away after Christmas, it might be the only opportunity I get...
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 16 November, 2021, 01:19:49 pm
Codicote is very near here. Hmmm. Though I'm not sure about a 200km at Christmas.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: felstedrider on 16 November, 2021, 01:32:33 pm
I'm slated to work until Midday Christmas Eve but it will be from home so I can possibly catch you all on the road somewhere.   Technically working 29th as well but I'll think a bit more nearer the time.

Spiritual Home has a quiz night Tue 21st.  I realise it's not the usual club night, though.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 16 November, 2021, 02:23:50 pm
Codicote is very near here. Hmmm. Though I'm not sure about a 200km at Christmas.

Or just ride from Codicote to the Compasses and back - would be an early-ish start to get to breakfast for say 09:00?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 16 November, 2021, 02:33:49 pm
I would be interested in tagging along for a 100 if it isn’t going to be too speedy.  Fast isn’t a word I associate with myself when it comes to cycling.  As for dates, and family stuff allowing, I can do either 24th or 29th at the moment.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 16 November, 2021, 06:12:39 pm
Codicote is very near here. Hmmm. Though I'm not sure about a 200km at Christmas.
Or just ride from Codicote to the Compasses and back - would be an early-ish start to get to breakfast for say 09:00?
And then back to finish the event? And then back again afterwards? :o

Of course, if I just rode from here to Codicote, it would be a nice, late start to get there in time for the lunch stop. That may be more my kind of riding. Permanents don't need controllers. Or that would be a good excuse...
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 17 November, 2021, 03:45:27 pm
I would be interested in tagging along for a 100 if it isn’t going to be too speedy.  Fast isn’t a word I associate with myself when it comes to cycling.  As for dates, and family stuff allowing, I can do either 24th or 29th at the moment.

A gentlemanly pace I should think. By 29th I should be well weighed down by Christmas food. 20kph and at least an hour for lunch at Spoke = 7 hours, & back for about 17:00 at the Compasses = pre-dinner drinks. Anyone dashing around on a 200 DIY will be long gone though.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 17 November, 2021, 04:10:54 pm
A gentlemanly pace I should think.

I'm going to carry this quote on the day, and use as evidence in case the velocity gets a bit lively.

By 29th I should be well weighed down by Christmas food. 20kph and at least an hour for lunch at Spoke = 7 hours, & back for about 17:00 at the Compasses = pre-dinner drinks. Anyone dashing around on a 200 DIY will be long gone though.

For me, if I ECE, I'd probably aim for 60km before, and 40km after. Using 20kph, 1 hr each for breakfast and lunch, and 2 hours for dinner, that would mean starting at 6am, and I'd be home by 8pm. That sounds quite relaxing  :)
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 17 November, 2021, 04:51:49 pm
It's lumpy, features two fords, of dubious rideability and is very laney:

Hadham and Barwick fords?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 17 November, 2021, 05:47:29 pm
It's lumpy, features two fords, of dubious rideability and is very laney:

Hadham and Barwick fords?

Indeed, yes - I know someone on a CTC clubrun who caught a 'tramline' in Barwick and went down - it's a wide and deep-ish ford with quite a slimy bottom and the water is fast-flowing too ... Hadham is more benign and I have ridden it no problem, but the entry and exit is very rough and steep up to the immediate T junction with the lane. I tend to favour the foot bridges (Barwick's has a step each end, but Hadham's can be ridden straight through). I'll be advising the footbridge option in both cases.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 17 November, 2021, 06:34:39 pm
They are on my usual route to Dunmow if ECEing your events.   I’ve seen a colleague go down in Barwick Ford and get very wet.  The Hadham one was flooded quite a bit either side last winter.  I usually take the footbridge and walking approach these days rather than my gung ho attitude of old.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 17 November, 2021, 07:13:57 pm
I regularly ride both fords, well, the footbridge in both cases. Taken at a slow enough speed the steps up onto and off the Barwick footbridge can be navigated without a foot down, even on fixed.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 21 November, 2021, 05:55:18 pm
Mrs Tomsk and I checked the 'Hopstock' 110km route by car today. Spoke cafe will be open if we ride a DIY on 29th December, but they'll be closing early at 14:00. We should be ok getting there for lunch around 13:00 based on a 10:00 start from the Compasses. All weather permitting of course, but I'll let them know we're coming. They're keen to host the Hopstock events in August and they'd also like an ACME cap for their display!

The food is good - we had an excellent lunch there. For future reference, I noticed they had some Belgian beers available ...

I'll have a route sheet written-up in a day or two.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 22 November, 2021, 08:31:26 pm
I have a route sheet written up for the 114km BP route if anyone wants to compare with gps tracks. (114km minimum distance according to Mrs Google today - 123km as per the advisory route ...) And 692m ascent.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 22 November, 2021, 09:44:24 pm
I have a route sheet written up for the 114km BP route if anyone wants to compare with gps tracks. (114km minimum distance according to Mrs Google today - 123km as per the advisory route ...) And 692m ascent.

I can put it in RidewithGPS and share the link, if there isn’t one available already.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 24 November, 2021, 03:42:41 pm
I have a route sheet written up for the 114km BP route if anyone wants to compare with gps tracks. (114km minimum distance according to Mrs Google today - 123km as per the advisory route ...) And 692m ascent.

I can put it in RidewithGPS and share the link, if there isn’t one available already.

Emailed to you, thanks ...

I've also checked with Sonia at the Maglia Rosso re: Christmas Eve: they're open every day except Christmas & Boxing Days, but will close early NY Eve and possibly others if they're quiet or the weather is lousy. I said we're likely to be there for lunch and would let them know if we ride and how many. Spoke likewise for 29th. I'll remind about booking breakfast at the Compasses in a few weeks time and that reminds me, I must call into Paradise Cafe here to check out their holiday arrangements.

Update: MR Cafe are closing at 14:00 on 24th, and offering a limited menu. Should still be ok on a 10:00 start?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 24 November, 2021, 06:35:15 pm
If you need any checking Spokes end let me know.  I’m out and about fairly often on the roads you are likely to be coming in on.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 24 November, 2021, 06:45:35 pm
A gentlemanly pace I should think. By 29th I should be well weighed down by Christmas food. 20kph and at least an hour for lunch at Spoke = 7 hours, & back for about 17:00 at the Compasses = pre-dinner drinks. Anyone dashing around on a 200 DIY will be long gone though.

I can manage that pace,  even after a little diet spoiling Christmas excess.  I better consult with the boss and request a day pass but I should be in.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 24 November, 2021, 07:04:29 pm
If you need any checking Spokes end let me know.  I’m out and about fairly often on the roads you are likely to be coming in on.
In the spirit of adamski's Essex and Suffolk event (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=119903.0), maybe some of us should start with breakfast at Spokes and ride the wrong way round to lunch at the Compasses, crossing twice in the day with the main field?

If any of us were mad enough to try to start from Codicote and make the end of breakfast at Littley Green, could we register for a backwards permanent and finish at lunch?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 24 November, 2021, 07:27:37 pm
If you need any checking Spokes end let me know.  I’m out and about fairly often on the roads you are likely to be coming in on.
In the spirit of adamski's Essex and Suffolk event (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=119903.0), maybe some of us should start with breakfast at Spokes and ride the wrong way round to lunch at the Compasses, crossing twice in the day with the main field?

If any of us were mad enough to try to start from Codicote and make the end of breakfast at Littley Green, could we register for a backwards permanent and finish at lunch?

It'll be a DIY, so what ever you want to do! Though I might turn it into a permanent, (the 200km Bricks and Moretaine starts from Braintree - though I start from home, which is on the route), but I'd probably start from Dunmow, or at least somewhere with 24-hour proof of passage. Direct route is a little short, but Dunmow-Sawbridgeworth-Codicote is 52.5km, with a virtually identical route. Braintree is well over-distance at 125km. There'll always be bonus kilometres with one of my routes, but then you wouldn't really want to ride there on the A120, A602 etc ...

On 24th I'm thinking of a reversed Richard Ellis Memorial 100km, though others might use the route incorporated into a 200. I'm also thinking of going to the Maglia Rosso then via Whepstead, just for a bit of variety and some bonus kms.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 24 November, 2021, 07:50:16 pm
Makes note to read rules for DIY; never done one. But that would mean I didn't need to start by going a bit south to Codicote :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 27 November, 2021, 09:34:17 am
I've been to Paradise ... they're open Christmas Eve as normal, from 07:00. Assuming the weather is ok, we'll meet for breakfast around 09:00, leaving at 10:00. Maglia Rosso say they're closing early, at 14:00, but we should be ok for lunch there around 13:00.

Regarding the Hopstock DIY on 29th, it's been pointed out the Compasses closes after lunch and won't be open until 17:00. We'll go with a 10:00 start, and 8-ish hours for the 114km ride. (Min. dist. - mandatory route will be a bit more -that's assuming 14.3kph for those on a 200km DIY, 12.5 for a BP brevet allows more than 9!) That should make time for a good lunch break of an hour or more? There's always the chance of a cheeky pub stop on the way back - right on the route there's the Three Horseshoes at Spellbrook which should be open all day. It's more a restaurant than a pub, but does have a fair sized bar area with no booking needed. (Yes, we called in there last weekend to check ... I'm not just throwing this together!)
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 06 December, 2021, 04:10:50 pm
I've booked my breakfast for 9am on 29th December at The Compasses. I'm the only person booked so far ...
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 09 December, 2021, 11:55:20 am
The destination cafe on 29th December has had a burglary ... £50k worth of bikes stolen. The news article suggests the cafe will remain open as normal, but they have cancelled their end of season cycle event.

https://road.cc/content/news/bikes-worth-ps50k-stolen-herts-workshop-and-cafe-288497 (https://road.cc/content/news/bikes-worth-ps50k-stolen-herts-workshop-and-cafe-288497)
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 09 December, 2021, 01:03:06 pm
I had just seen that.  There are some right scrotes about!  Article says the police have leads to follow, I hope the catch them soon and recover the bikes.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 13 December, 2021, 04:58:32 pm
Booked my Compasses breakfast for 09:00 on 29th December.  :thumbsup:

Re: 24th, I'll be riding a Richard Ellis 100km, reversed, and hope to meet up with any doing a longer DIY at Paradise in Dunmow around 09:00. If anyone else is doing the REM brevet they can sign in 'on-the-line' with a pre-filled in entry form (though I'll bring spares just in case). I can of course be a roving controller, unless we part company, when conventional proof of passage will be needed. Afterwards, I'll most likely head to the Angel and Harp for a Christmas Eve drink, but am on family cooking duties later.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 13 December, 2021, 05:36:13 pm
I’m still planning on riding on the 24th. I can’t find the route online though … acme.bike has it listed, but the link goes to the calendar page on audax.uk, and the route isn’t on camaudax. Is there a special place where it might be found?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 13 December, 2021, 08:02:30 pm
I have permission from the boss, to ride both days on the strict condition that I get all my essential Christmas chores done on the afternoon / evening of the 23rd.  I doubt I will be breakfasting on the 29th, but can meet you at Littley Green just before 10am?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 13 December, 2021, 08:33:34 pm
I have permission from the boss, to ride both days on the strict condition that I get all my essential Christmas chores done on the afternoon / evening of the 23rd.  I doubt I will be breakfasting on the 29th, but can meet you at Littley Green just before 10am?

 :thumbsup: I'll be doing the headless chicken on 23rd too!

I’m still planning on riding on the 24th. I can’t find the route online though … acme.bike has it listed, but the link goes to the calendar page on audax.uk, and the route isn’t on camaudax. Is there a special place where it might be found?

Wilkyboy should have the REM 100 track, but I was intending riding reversed, as posted earlier, ie: Dunmow, Finchingfield, Stambourne, Ridgewell, Clare, Poslingford, Stansfield (where 1st R, Thurston Lane, 'cos it's a fave route, only a fraction of a K further) to Hawkeden, Rede, Whepstead, Maglia Rosso Hawstead, Boxted, Glemsford, Cavendish, Belchamp St Paul, Great Yeldham, Finchingfield, Dunmow. (Perm. brevet controls.)
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 13 December, 2021, 08:42:28 pm
REM 100 by Wilkyboy is here even if not on cam audax

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37526849
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 14 December, 2021, 05:50:51 am
REM 100 by Wilkyboy is here even if not on cam audax

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37526849

Thanks Phil. It even goes to the same places as Tomsk describes. Just need to check if it goes in the same direction when I get on the big computer, something I can’t work out how to do when on the app. A simple ‘reverse’ will sort it if it’s not going the intended way.

EDIT: a reverse was needed, just discovered
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 14 December, 2021, 05:05:37 pm
Just had a reminder from Dee to let the Compasses know if you want breakfast on 29th asap. Even if undecided re:forecast etc, an indication of numbers would help. Remember it's the final MEMWNS of the year that day too, so come and join in the Full Fat Festivities!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Shaftesburybiker on 15 December, 2021, 05:25:48 pm
I'll ride over to get there 20 mins before the depart.

Is that expected to be 10am?

And what is the route - the REM in reverse?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Toby's Dad on 16 December, 2021, 11:45:32 am
Planning to join you on the 29th - I'll be at Compasses for 10am. Not sure about my full route on the day as full 240km round ECE trip may be a bit heavy after Christmas...
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 16 December, 2021, 05:27:19 pm
I'll ride over to get there 20 mins before the depart.

Is that expected to be 10am?

And what is the route - the REM in reverse?

Yes, REM 100 reversed - see above for a summary. If you just want to do a standard paper brevet with conventional P-O-P, then that frees you from the tyranny of mandatory route DIY by GPS and you can go via whatever way you like!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 16 December, 2021, 05:39:47 pm
That's the 24th route I think? What's the 29th route?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 16 December, 2021, 05:50:31 pm
That's the 24th route I think? What's the 29th route?

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783 (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783)
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 16 December, 2021, 06:17:38 pm
That's the 24th route I think? What's the 29th route?

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783 (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783)

If you were riding the Spokes end after dark I’d route via Pottersheath.   There’s a fantastic Christmas light display in aid of air ambulance.  The owners let you wander round it. It gets more impressive year on year. Santa, reminder, elves, polar bears, a nativity. All sorts of stuff.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rnEjiwXAmui1YyCvmc0GtEcgnd5sxygN0Mc_crFas92zRUrGQK689nnInAJGvn8i6M_7DSuY4-fYdHp5vTmbm0jHwowT1FUYyFyclKRkZbFyE15y_KRDMHohYjtd6Y47guHGTuvJoA=w2400)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YjuX8kEijXZPvaa71VY6wUUZlI7DnMIMzlGP8bU4bU7T6jqtqfSXTv2m6O6gAh0pMjfCXuuMR6elldHsN5RYYoCJOaJzTnae3CSz2GLsgasJPyRY7uMEGRAXeBz5QId1JumngH48ww=w2400)

Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 16 December, 2021, 07:02:06 pm
If you were riding the Spokes end after dark I’d route via Pottersheath. 

We’re there for lunch, so unless the apocalypse arrives unexpectedly, it’ll be quite light!

If I’m across there at another time, I’ll look out for it. Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 20 December, 2021, 07:20:55 pm
To summarise the plans:

Friday 24th December, Richard Ellis Memorial 100km: Meet at 'Paradise' cafe, Dunmow for breakfast around 09:00, leaving 10:00 on a 100km Reversed REM permanent, or your own DIY incorporating the route (summarised above, gps links too). Lunch at the Maglia Rosso, Hawstead, returning to Dunmow around dusk (16:00-17:00), maybe time for a cheeky Christmas drink at the Angel and Harp? (Yes, theologically speaking I know we should really be ending up in Paradise ...) There's a marquee at the A&H if you don't fancy going indoors - the MR has a roofed, but opensided seating section too - bring your lockdown jackets?

Wednesday 29th December, Hopstock 110km: Meet at the Compasses, Littley Green for breakfast from 09:00 - let them know if you're wanting to eat there: compasseslittleygreen@googlemail.com A 10:00 start and lunch at the far end of the 'Hopstock' 110+km route at 'Spoke' cafe, Codicote (also see above for route details). Back at the Compasses after 17:00 (when they re-open) for a meal and drinks as required. Again, can be your own DIY that dovetails with the basic Hopstock route.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Nik's Nick on 21 December, 2021, 08:14:49 am
So the otherwise delightful French have kiboshed the family skiing trip. Two very upset kids but first-world-problems and all that.
Won't be allowed out Christmas Eve (someone has to be in charge of the family-carols-and-jogging-round-village-mulled-wine-fest). Will work on the 29th.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 21 December, 2021, 04:11:19 pm
Weather is looking quite good for Friday. I've shelved plans to extend up to 200km, and will just ride to/from Dunmow on top of the REM-R.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 21 December, 2021, 08:34:11 pm
Weather is looking quite good for Friday. I've shelved plans to extend up to 200km, and will just ride to/from Dunmow on top of the REM-R.

 :thumbsup: Not perfect weather, maybe some rain later, but hey, it's December. Just getting out will be good.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: felstedrider on 23 December, 2021, 02:47:32 pm
Weather is looking quite good for Friday. I've shelved plans to extend up to 200km, and will just ride to/from Dunmow on top of the REM-R.

 :thumbsup: Not perfect weather, maybe some rain later, but hey, it's December. Just getting out will be good.

I need to be at my screen until Midday but will set off then.   I will follow the route in reverse (well, the proper way, but you know what I mean) and try to catch the group as you are heading back.

I was jabbed yesterday but feel OK.    (If anyone is interested there are walk ins available at Chelmsford racecourse and it was empty about 4pm).
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 23 December, 2021, 03:31:25 pm
 :thumbsup:
Weather is looking quite good for Friday. I've shelved plans to extend up to 200km, and will just ride to/from Dunmow on top of the REM-R.

 :thumbsup: Not perfect weather, maybe some rain later, but hey, it's December. Just getting out will be good.

I need to be at my screen until Midday but will set off then.   I will follow the route in reverse (well, the proper way, but you know what I mean) and try to catch the group as you are heading back.

I was jabbed yesterday but feel OK.    (If anyone is interested there are walk ins available at Chelmsford racecourse and it was empty about 4pm).

Re: tomorrow - I've heard from Sonia at the MR cafe today & they're unlikely to have hot food on by the time we get there: coffee, sandwich and cake will have to do ... looks like maybe 4-5 of us out?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 23 December, 2021, 03:47:01 pm
Re: tomorrow - I've heard from Sonia at the MR cafe today & they're unlikely to have hot food on by the time we get there

Maybe we could ride slower  ;D

It's only 50km back from there, so sandwich/cake is fine for me if hot food not ready.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 23 December, 2021, 08:08:28 pm
Only coffee and cake, you will have to work a bit harder than that to put me off!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Owen on 23 December, 2021, 08:27:45 pm
Hoping to join you for Breakfast tomorrow morning in Dunmow.
Sadly I can;t join you for the full ride as I need to be home by midday.
See you at 9ish

Owen
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: GdS on 24 December, 2021, 12:28:30 am
anyone wanting to extend this to 200 (for free) please go to the AUK perm webpage and click the "ECE this event" button  :thumbsup:

just ignore the payment screen

edit; sorry there is no button  :( just email me malinseastg@tiscali.co.uk
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 24 December, 2021, 05:46:03 pm
A good, sociable ride: mild and sunny, light winds. Good to meet up with Owen at the Paradise cafe - thanks for being official start-line photographer. A brisk pace (for me) but we all stuck together - thanks to Jelly Legs, Leaden Skies, Despeuch and psyclist for their company, and to felstedrider who met up with us on the way back, at Cavendish. We also happened to spot Brian Mann tinkering with his Morris Minor as we passed, so stopped for a little chat.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 24 December, 2021, 08:13:42 pm
The very same Morris Minor that rescued me on the 100 miles of Suffolk Lanes event. Brian wasn't sure, till we tried, whether you could actually get a bike with mudguards in one. You can if the mudguards are already broken :thumbsup:

That's the 24th route I think? What's the 29th route?

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783 (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/38111783)

Not sure I'm going to make it all the way to the Compasses for the start, and I certainly haven't booked breakfast. But that route works well because it joins my natural outward route from home at Green Tye. So, if family plans allow it, I'll see how far I can get beyond the M11 before I meet you coming the other way. I'll confirm here when I know either way. I probably won't stop for lunch, sorry, as we're being careful about indoor meetings, and it's only a short run from Codicote back home - our club hilly events run on a popular course that starts just outside the village.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Toby's Dad on 26 December, 2021, 08:44:27 am
Morning all - hope the mince pies not sitting too heavy today!

What time is the plan to get to Spoke Cafe on the 29th? I am still hoping to join the ride but might need to go in work to welcome a visitor - if I do, then hoping that I can join for lunch at Spoke and ride across.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 26 December, 2021, 08:59:01 am
What time is the plan to get to Spoke Cafe on the 29th? I am still hoping to join the ride but might need to go in work to welcome a visitor - if I do, then hoping that I can join for lunch at Spoke and ride across.

Being a Tomsk event, it's a little over 50km to the halfway point. 62km to be precise  ;D. We're leaving Compasses at 10am, so I would suggest just before 1pm would be a good guide.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Toby's Dad on 26 December, 2021, 10:20:20 am
What time is the plan to get to Spoke Cafe on the 29th? I am still hoping to join the ride but might need to go in work to welcome a visitor - if I do, then hoping that I can join for lunch at Spoke and ride across.

Being a Tomsk event, it's a little over 50km to the halfway point. 62km to be precise  ;D. We're leaving Compasses at 10am, so I would suggest just before 1pm would be a good guide.

Ah, yes - thank you. Might have a bit additional as I can add on a bit for you to eat your breakfast, which I shall probably miss out on.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 26 December, 2021, 10:27:04 am
Floods out this way. Suspect you’ll hit them between Dane End and Watton at Stone. Forecast it’s due to keep raining through till Wed. So may be still about. Barwick ford road is likely currently flooded given where I saw floods this past week.  From Watton to Spokes those roads stay flood free.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 26 December, 2021, 04:11:34 pm
The Chelmer here is up a bit today, but well below the top of the riverbank, however Barwick Road is quite low-lying and close to the river ... I'll be taking some spare socks! The approach road to Hadham ford is quite 'interesting' too, when there's been a bit of rain!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 26 December, 2021, 05:16:06 pm
The Chelmer here is up a bit today, but well below the top of the riverbank, however Barwick Road is quite low-lying and close to the river ... I'll be taking some spare socks! The approach road to Hadham ford is quite 'interesting' too, when there's been a bit of rain!

It’s usually ok if you stick to the left of the lane approaching the Berwick Road ford when that lane has become a river itself, but with current water levels it might require a trip along the footpath that is the other side of the field to the south.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 28 December, 2021, 09:26:49 am
Looking out the window here this morning, I might bring a snorkel.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 28 December, 2021, 12:30:49 pm
You might well. More rain yesterday and it’s set in again today. More mud and debris in the lanes.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 28 December, 2021, 02:21:17 pm
You might well. More rain yesterday and it’s set in again today. More mud and debris in the lanes.

Can I be bothered to clean my bike? Maybe a tyre inspection, a bit of chain lube and a check on the tension at least ...

The answer to bad weather is: more cosy pub stops. We've got a minimum of 7 hours for the ride = 5pm, and a later finish at the Compasses wouldn't be an issue. 110+km at 12.5kph is ... a lot of time!
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: psyclist on 28 December, 2021, 02:42:58 pm
As per an earlier suggestion, I’m all set to complete my EPE before the 9am breakfast. Might get a bit of riding completed before the morning rain arrives … but at least it’ll clear up later on.

I’ll be aiming to complete the Hopstock by 19:30, but I wouldn’t have thought we’ll be anywhere near that late, even at a genteel pace.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Toby's Dad on 28 December, 2021, 04:57:16 pm
My guest visit has just been cancelled tomorrow - please allow me a bit of moaning tomorrow about the late notice and days of disruption...

Are we meeting at Compasses at 9am and leaving at 10?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Tomsk on 28 December, 2021, 05:14:01 pm
My guest visit has just been cancelled tomorrow - please allow me a bit of moaning tomorrow about the late notice and days of disruption...

Are we meeting at Compasses at 9am and leaving at 10?

 :thumbsup: Let the Compasses know if you want breakfast. Others may be joining us at 10:00, so we won't be leaving until then
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: JellyLegs on 28 December, 2021, 05:25:00 pm
My plan is to leave home in time to get to The Compasses for about 9:45am as long as today’s mudguard fitting modifications hold up. If I am not there by 10am then you can assume a bracket bodging failure.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: drossall on 28 December, 2021, 08:16:32 pm
Sorry, I'm out, as I've now got something else happening tomorrow. Hope it's a good ride.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Owen on 28 December, 2021, 09:03:12 pm
Have a good ride tomorrow.
Again I'm Jealous not to be able to join you.

I'm planning on cycling over to The Compasses for around 5 to join you for dinner and a MEMWN's drink.

Owen
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 28 December, 2021, 09:16:12 pm
Sorry, I'm out, as I've now got something else happening tomorrow. Hope it's a good ride.

Having your hair done?
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 28 December, 2021, 09:19:54 pm
I will likely ride some of your route in reverse tomorrow.  Probably as far as Much Hadham before I turn north. Subject to any floods found along the way. Last time (Feb this year) I rode through a bit too deep a flood I decided to redo the grease in my wheel hubs.

Anyway hopefully see some of you heading opposite way tomorrow.  I might have the fairy lights lit on the bike if weather dull enough.
Title: Re: ACME Christmas Permanents
Post by: Lightning Phil on 29 December, 2021, 04:02:12 pm
Passed through Much Hadham just before 10am which clearly was too early for your group to have reached there. Glad the Barwick road wasn’t flooded.