Author Topic: Cross Training: Swimming  (Read 19127 times)

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #75 on: 23 March, 2023, 09:48:11 am »
I've entered the Great Swim, Windermere 9th June.

Is anyone else seriously swimming? Done it before?

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #76 on: 24 July, 2023, 06:31:24 pm »
I've renewed my membership at the local sports centre and have been a few times.  I need to build it into a routine though. 


I've seen these people whilst walking to a dockside restaurant.  It looks far too cold !  https://www.livpost.co.uk/p/move-over-st-tropez-princes-dock
Not fast & rarely furious

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #77 on: 23 January, 2024, 05:14:54 pm »
Lovely other ½ bought me some 'smart goggles' for christmas, they project your speed and stroke rate on the inside of the right eye so you can get feedback as you go along - plus other stuff like head angle, heart rate and such.  They work surprisingly well.

On the plus side, I'm already going at least 10 seconds quicker per 100m in a normal session in just 3 weeks of wearing them.  On the downside, seeing your speed slowly dripping away as you get tired and bored, and having to work so much harder to hold it has stripped any joy out of just swimming.  Hey ho.

ian

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #78 on: 23 January, 2024, 09:07:22 pm »
I've entered the Great Swim, Windermere 9th June.

Is anyone else seriously swimming? Done it before?


I seem to have volunteered for a 24-hour outdoor charity swim, not the entire 24 hours, three one-hour slots in a team of eight. It seemed a better idea when I had a drink in my hand, admittedly. I have a couple of months to rue my foolishness and hope the bloody water warms up.

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #79 on: 24 January, 2024, 11:38:36 am »
Lovely other ½ bought me some 'smart goggles' for christmas, they project your speed and stroke rate on the inside of the right eye so you can get feedback as you go along - plus other stuff like head angle, heart rate and such.  They work surprisingly well.

On the plus side, I'm already going at least 10 seconds quicker per 100m in a normal session in just 3 weeks of wearing them.  On the downside, seeing your speed slowly dripping away as you get tired and bored, and having to work so much harder to hold it has stripped any joy out of just swimming.  Hey ho.

Ew; can't decide if I'd like that!  Can you wear them once per week as a training drill, and enjoy the other sessions more?

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #80 on: 24 January, 2024, 12:49:29 pm »
I've entered the Great Swim, Windermere 9th June.

Is anyone else seriously swimming? Done it before?


I seem to have volunteered for a 24-hour outdoor charity swim, not the entire 24 hours, three one-hour slots in a team of eight. It seemed a better idea when I had a drink in my hand, admittedly. I have a couple of months to rue my foolishness and hope the bloody water warms up.

Is that the Level Water thing? I'm waiting to see if there's a team who'll have me, which lake will you be at? I've stopped pretending I'm hardy enough for just a cozzie and its indoors over the winter and a wetsuit for the summer. Love a heated lido though...

I'm mostly aiming for Coniston End to End this year.

And because I didn't fancy swimming for 5 hours I'm having lessons. I want to shave 20% off my pace- which would sound ridiculous except that it's quite a slow base to start from.

Lovely other ½ bought me some 'smart goggles' for christmas, they project your speed and stroke rate on the inside of the right eye so you can get feedback as you go along - plus other stuff like head angle, heart rate and such.  They work surprisingly well.

On the plus side, I'm already going at least 10 seconds quicker per 100m in a normal session in just 3 weeks of wearing them.  On the downside, seeing your speed slowly dripping away as you get tired and bored, and having to work so much harder to hold it has stripped any joy out of just swimming.  Hey ho.
I'm using the excuse that I need prescription goggles to avoid the tech-lust.

ian

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #81 on: 24 January, 2024, 07:45:59 pm »
It is the Level Water thing at Shepperton Lake. It might have to be a wetsuit, I hate the cold, and have also not swum outdoors for an age. I'm singularly ill-equipped for this venture.

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #82 on: 25 January, 2024, 09:09:52 am »

I'm mostly aiming for Coniston End to End this year.


 :o

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #83 on: 25 January, 2024, 09:27:16 am »
Coniston is 5.25miles. About double my current longest swim. What could possibly go wrong?

First proper lesson since I was about 11, yesterday.

My coach is a nagging witch  :thumbsup:

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #84 on: 23 April, 2024, 10:33:40 am »
Lovely other ½ bought me some 'smart goggles' for christmas, they project your speed and stroke rate on the inside of the right eye so you can get feedback as you go along - plus other stuff like head angle, heart rate and such.  They work surprisingly well.

Are you still getting on with them three months later?

I went for my first swim for a long time this morning. Going to try to get back into the regular habit. If I do, then I will be able to justify to myself the investment in some kind of tech to measure my distances - because I'm really crap at counting lengths. I mean, I think I did 30 lengths this morning but it could in fact be anywhere between 28 and 34 lengths. And when it's a 50m pool, that adds up to a significant difference. Not that it really matters, I just like having numbers to put on Strava.

Anyway, I'm interested in smart goggles as an option. Or some other fitness tracking device that works in water, if anyone has any recommendations - my Garmin FR620 is not really any good in water, only useful for measuring time not distance.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #85 on: 23 April, 2024, 10:02:47 pm »
The newer Garmin watches have a pool swim option which is really good at counting lengths.

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #86 on: Yesterday at 02:18:34 pm »

Are you still getting on with them three months later?

I went for my first swim for a long time this morning. Going to try to get back into the regular habit. If I do, then I will be able to justify to myself the investment in some kind of tech to measure my distances - because I'm really crap at counting lengths. I mean, I think I did 30 lengths this morning but it could in fact be anywhere between 28 and 34 lengths. And when it's a 50m pool, that adds up to a significant difference. Not that it really matters, I just like having numbers to put on Strava.

Anyway, I'm interested in smart goggles as an option. Or some other fitness tracking device that works in water, if anyone has any recommendations - my Garmin FR620 is not really any good in water, only useful for measuring time not distance.

yes, still love them.  They're *awful* for looking out of, it's not just that there's no peripheral vision, there are actually weird, occasional reflections of stuff happening in the other direction on the sides of the goggles which has taken some getting used to, but apart from that minor detail, they are brilliant.  Having a realtime stroke rate, heart rate and speed is really good at keeping me consistent, and the coaching functions do seem to be working too and I'm averaging under 1.45 / 100m for the main part of the session, down from about 1.55/2.00 in December.  Programming the workout before the swim is a bit too much of a faff beforehand to do every time but is quite nice to be told what to do without looking at the soggy bit of paper stuck to my drinks bottle!

They count much better than my 2 year old garmin too. Hardly ever miss a length compared to the garmin which undercounts a few every session.  Mine are the Form goggles - this is the level of data you get on the app, from my Monday swim:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zwRGCjwluVkHoYtoZLmRE4WK4yx7E8HnQf0LD9LW8c8/edit?usp=sharing
(swim was 300 easy, 3x100 drills, 5 x 300, 100 easy, 4 x 25 hard, 2x100 easy).

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #87 on: Yesterday at 04:05:23 pm »
The newer Garmin watches have a pool swim option which is really good at counting lengths.

Mmmm, yes - I should probably ask my wife about this as she has one of the newer Forerunner watches and uses it for swimming.

yes, still love them.  They're *awful* for looking out of, it's not just that there's no peripheral vision, there are actually weird, occasional reflections of stuff happening in the other direction on the sides of the goggles which has taken some getting used to, but apart from that minor detail, they are brilliant...

Good review, thanks.  :thumbsup:
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #88 on: Today at 10:27:13 am »
Mmmm, yes - I should probably ask my wife about this as she has one of the newer Forerunner watches and uses it for swimming.

My wife is very intelligent. She suggested I simply press the lap button on my watch at the end of every two lengths. Of course! Seems so obvious now. Did it for this morning's swim. Worked a treat.

Might still look to upgrade my watch at some point anyway.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #89 on: Today at 11:23:58 am »
I bought a Garmin watch to track my swimming. (Instinct2 - it does pool, open water & e-bike which is why I upgraded from the 735xt)
It's not actually that great at counting and the user error is shocking! I have lost count of the number of times I finish a set to find I'm still paused. They're also rubbish if you're doing drills - kick pulls are non existent and broken arrow/catchup can give false positives.

(If I'm counting I don't count numbers, I count letters. So the first 2 lengths are apple, then banana, cauliflower, daikon... Much less likely to lose track)

I'm averaging under 1.45 / 100m for the main part of the session, down from about 1.55/2.00 in December.
My swimming lessons have got me from 3:00 to 2:45.  :-[

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #90 on: Today at 11:54:11 am »
I'm averaging under 1.45 / 100m for the main part of the session, down from about 1.55/2.00 in December.
My swimming lessons have got me from 3:00 to 2:45.  :-[

My 100m splits today ranged from 2:53 to 3:36 (mostly breaststroke). I'm both out of practice and unfit. And clearly have no consistency (although some of the variation is down to congestion in the pool).

Was mulling over the idea of lessons to improve my technique.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #91 on: Today at 04:59:19 pm »
Interesting, I have wondered about lessons. I used to do lifesaving at school so could swim 2 miles or more even towing using backstroke/ sidestroke. Never really caught front crawl.
This last 10 days on holiday I have been following some videos on YT and really seen an improvement so may go for lessons once home. I may have to retire again to make time!

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #92 on: Today at 05:33:54 pm »
I was in a swimming club in my youth. Was never good enough to be competitive but I did get drilled with good technique. I've lost a lot of that over the years and could do with some refreshers. And I never really did learn how to tumble turn properly.

Not bothered about improving performance as such, but swimming is more enjoyable if you can do it right.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

citoyen

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Re: Cross Training: Swimming
« Reply #93 on: Today at 05:46:37 pm »
Anyway, I'm interested in smart goggles as an option. Or some other fitness tracking device that works in water, if anyone has any recommendations - my Garmin FR620 is not really any good in water, only useful for measuring time not distance.

Just been re-reading the early pages of this thread, from 2011. Back then, JJ recommended a Swimovate for counting lengths and though I liked the sound of it, I never got round to buying one.

My performance has definitely deteriorated since 2011.  :-\
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."