Author Topic: Creating a smokefree generation  (Read 403 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Creating a smokefree generation
« on: 20 April, 2021, 10:11:18 pm »
...is New Zealand's goal. As part of their broader goal of "Smokefree Aotearoa 2025" https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/preventative-health-wellness/tobacco-control/smokefree-aotearoa-2025 they're considering banning anyone born after 2004 from buying tobacco. Forever.
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"It will protect young people. And it also means that once we get to the goal [of Smokefree 2025] we're going to stay there: we have a cohort of young people coming through for whom smoking is simply not part of their lifestyle, not accessible to them."
says Professor Janet Hoek of Otago University.

Obviously it's being questioned on grounds of fairness. But in a way that's already been answered by the existence of minimum ages for smoking and other things and by various substances being totally banned.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-detail/300282141/tobacco-ban-for-those-born-after-2004--smokefree-generation-plan

Could it happen here, if the law did pass in NZ and prove successful? Not so sure, but maybe.
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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #1 on: 20 April, 2021, 11:36:59 pm »
They could do the same with driving licenses.

arabella

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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #2 on: 20 April, 2021, 11:59:27 pm »
I'm waiting to see what happens with holiday makers of that age from countries wherer they are allowed to (and do) smoke.
The idea was mooted for anhyone born after 2000.  Not sure it ever took off though - well, oviously it didn't but never made it past the starting post even.
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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #3 on: 21 April, 2021, 02:50:07 am »
I'm waiting to see what happens with holiday makers of that age from countries wherer they are allowed to (and do) smoke.
The idea was mooted for anhyone born after 2000.  Not sure it ever took off though - well, oviously it didn't but never made it past the starting post even.

I would be curious to see how New Zealanders would behave when they travel to countries where they are allowed to smoke.

I would love to see a tobacco free planet, but realistically I expect this to work about as well as banning alcohol and marijuana did for the US.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #4 on: 21 April, 2021, 08:19:53 am »
It would have to be enforced by ID checks on every purchase, so presumably an exemption for FOREIGNS could be made upon production of FOREIGN passport with appropriate entry stamp. Alternatively, it might be done by means of "positive ID" ie rather than proving that you are not prohibited from buying tobacco, you'd have to join a special register of smokers, upon which you would be given the appropriate SmokeCardTM.
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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #5 on: 21 April, 2021, 11:50:32 am »
...is New Zealand's goal. As part of their broader goal of "Smokefree Aotearoa 2025" https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/preventative-health-wellness/tobacco-control/smokefree-aotearoa-2025 they're considering banning anyone born after 2004 from buying tobacco. Forever.
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"It will protect young people. And it also means that once we get to the goal [of Smokefree 2025] we're going to stay there: we have a cohort of young people coming through for whom smoking is simply not part of their lifestyle, not accessible to them."
says Professor Janet Hoek of Otago University.

Obviously it's being questioned on grounds of fairness. But in a way that's already been answered by the existence of minimum ages for smoking and other things and by various substances being totally banned.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-detail/300282141/tobacco-ban-for-those-born-after-2004--smokefree-generation-plan

Could it happen here, if the law did pass in NZ and prove successful? Not so sure, but maybe.


New Zealand's national health service/structure (the oldest in the world) has always been driven - with the exception a period in the late 1980s/early 1990s - by a public health 'prevention' agenda.  It's one of the reasons it has done so well with Covid.

NZers have a high level of trust in their leaders and a far more 'socially aware' attitude and community minded approach to these sorts of issues.


NZ is one of the most advanced 'smoke-free' countries.  Whilst national government has introduced smoke-free workplaces/indoor public spaces, local councils and communities have been given the freedom to introduce local restrictions in outdoor areas as well.  Most have policies in place: http://www.midcentraldhb.govt.nz/HealthServices/PublicHealth/Documents/Smokefree%20Mapping%20NZ%20Councils-Outdoors%20and%20Spaces%20-%202535.pdf
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Creating a smokefree generation
« Reply #6 on: 23 April, 2021, 09:31:36 pm »
I've just learnt of a proposal to ban smoking on balconies in Warsaw and possibly subsequently the whole of Poland. Apparently this is inspired by a recent law in Lithuania, which came into force at the beginning of this year. The Lithuanian law also covers sports grounds, bus stops, playgrounds and open air areas of cafes.
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