Author Topic: MH370 missing (Read 68630 times)

woollypigs · « **Reply #550 on:** 08 June, 2014, 10:19:19 pm »

A sailing lady has come out saying she saw it go do else where.https://saucysailoress.wordpress.com

Asterix, the former Gaul. · « **Reply #551 on:** 09 June, 2014, 07:37:59 am »

Quote from: TimC on 08 June, 2014, 09:21:58 pm

Quote from: asterix on 08 June, 2014, 06:40:57 pm
..trying to suggest there weren't subs in the area anyway. Or maybe there weren't but they are trying to make us think they'd tell us that they were sending one to cover up the fact that there wasn't one and there is a gap in our world surveillance program. Which there may or may not be.

We are now looking for a whistle-blower on the not unsurprising assumption that someone out there knows more that they are letting on:

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/world-news/165000-missing-malaysia-jet-mh370-whistleblower-fund-set-up

As one of the crew of that submarine is a contributor to this thread, just four posts before yours, I think it's a bit crass to suggest that no British submarine was actually there and that it was some kind of PR spin!

Calm down dear, I wasn't entirely serious about the submarine. ..and how much do servicemen actually know about what's going on anyway?

Although I am seriously interested to know the fate of the aircraft.

Bledlow · « **Reply #552 on:** 09 June, 2014, 10:35:56 am »

Quote from: woollypigs on 08 June, 2014, 10:19:19 pm

A sailing lady has come out saying she saw it go do else where.https://saucysailoress.wordpress.com

Not saying unequivocally. She saw something.

I wish I had some idea of Indian & Indonesian radar coverage of that area. It's quite a long way from the Indian military air base on Car Nicobar. There's an Indonesian airport at Banda Aceh, which is closer - but still about 200 km away.

The Movers · « **Reply #553 on:** 18 July, 2014, 12:14:29 am »

At Tim C's suggestion discussion of the Malaysian plane presumed shot down has been moved to POBI.

Eccentrica Gallumbits · « **Reply #554 on:** 28 December, 2014, 03:13:03 pm »

An Air Asia flight from Indonesia to Singapore is missing.

Pickled Onion · « **Reply #555 on:** 29 December, 2014, 03:17:59 pm »

Presumably the only reason this is on the news is because of vague similarity: did not radio distress call and is in roughly the same part of the globe?

Other than that there don't seem to be any suspicious factors.

Kim · « **Reply #556 on:** 29 December, 2014, 03:21:57 pm »

Surely it's on the news because a plane has vanished?

Asterix, the former Gaul. · « **Reply #557 on:** 29 December, 2014, 03:31:53 pm »

7 minutes ago:

A Virgin Atlantic passenger plane [747] "is preparing to implement a non-standard landing" at Gatwick airport

Fingers and everything else crossed..

Pickled Onion · « **Reply #558 on:** 29 December, 2014, 03:40:56 pm »

Quote from: Kim on 29 December, 2014, 03:21:57 pm

Surely it's on the news because a plane has vanished?

I guess most times the crash site is found fairly quickly, but in this case it's almost certainly crashed after flying into a storm rather than anything more mysterious. Most crashes are not headline news over several days in a row: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#2013

SteveC · « **Reply #559 on:** 29 December, 2014, 03:59:57 pm »

Quote from: asterix on 29 December, 2014, 03:31:53 pm

7 minutes ago:

A Virgin Atlantic passenger plane [747] "is preparing to implement a non-standard landing" at Gatwick airport

Fingers and everything else crossed..

BBC have just tweeted Virgin flight #VS43 lands safely at Gatwick Airport after problems with landing gear

hatler · « **Reply #560 on:** 29 December, 2014, 06:03:53 pm »

Ref the Gatwick Virgin Jumbo, was that TimC at the helm I wonder ?

Eccentrica Gallumbits · « **Reply #561 on:** 29 December, 2014, 06:08:08 pm »

Was he struggling to clip in?

Jaded · « **Reply #562 on:** 29 December, 2014, 06:14:15 pm »

Taking a photo of the sunset?

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #563 on:** 29 December, 2014, 10:47:24 pm »

Photo on the TV news around 6pm appeared to show that one of the four main gear legs wasn't fully down. They also said that it stooged around the SE for four hours burning off fuel - can a 747 not jettison the stuff? It's not as if the Channel is far as the Boeing flies.

David Martin · « **Reply #564 on:** 29 December, 2014, 11:02:43 pm »

More environmentally frinedly to burn it than dump it? Also gives a chance for the systems to sort themselves out.
And to ensure that all the emergency services are on hand in good time and that hospital lists are cleared.

Good practice to delay disaster as long as possible.

matthew · « **Reply #565 on:** 29 December, 2014, 11:25:18 pm »

Quote from: hatler on 29 December, 2014, 06:03:53 pm

Ref the Gatwick Virgin Jumbo, was that TimC at the helm I wonder ?

That was a Boeing 747, I believe TimC drives an Airbus.

Pilot reported to be Dave, and had the added incentive to get it right as his daughter was on board.

Kim · « **Reply #566 on:** 29 December, 2014, 11:36:00 pm »

That's a skilful bit of plane driving:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JoWS_SHe4gU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/JoWS_SHe4gU&rel=1</a>
http://youtu.be/JoWS_SHe4gU

sg37409 · « **Reply #567 on:** 29 December, 2014, 11:44:34 pm »

Quote from: Kim on 29 December, 2014, 11:36:00 pm

That's a skilful bit of plane driving:

Indeed ! Was it still heavy when it landed ? Quite a thump, or were to get the 4th gear down ? I assume they had gear down/locked confirmed on the the others to have landed so heavily.

When it comes to skillful flying, the US Air landing on the Hudson river takes some beating.

mcshroom · « **Reply #568 on:** 29 December, 2014, 11:46:35 pm »

Could be the lack of braking from the missing wheels, but it looked like he kept a bit more power in the right engines to stop the plane toppling over.

Good flying

tatanab · « **Reply #569 on:** 30 December, 2014, 08:27:04 am »

Do you remember that some years ago a VAA pilot at Heathrow successfully shook the undercarriage into a locked position. it just happened that he was an aerobatic display pilot in his spare time.

TimC · « **Reply #570 on:** 01 January, 2015, 12:04:25 pm »

Quote from: hatler on 29 December, 2014, 06:03:53 pm

Ref the Gatwick Virgin Jumbo, was that TimC at the helm I wonder ?

Not me. I gave up flying Boing 747s in 2002. Strictly Airbus A330/340 these days. But Dave Williams did a fine job of the dreaded 14-wheel landing.

hatler · « **Reply #571 on:** 01 January, 2015, 12:05:51 pm »

If you have the time I am sure we would all be fascinated as to what you do differently when landing on only 14 wheels.

TimC · « **Reply #572 on:** 01 January, 2015, 12:10:40 pm »

Essentially nothing, except make the aeroplane as light as possible before doing it. But I normally get by on as few as 10 wheels (A330), 12 (A340-300) or 14 (A340-600). 18 (the normal 747 complement) is just an extravagance!

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #573 on:** 01 January, 2015, 01:36:41 pm »

Whither the A380? 22 wheels...

spesh · « **Reply #574 on:** 01 January, 2015, 02:09:16 pm »

If we're playing landing gear Top Trumps...

An Antonov An-225 cockpit, somewhere...

"Yuri, one of the main landing gear legs isn't down and locked.

"Bozhe moi, Vladimir!, Not the dreaded 30-wheel landing!"