Peter Hook
Peter Hook
LOL.
If you want a textbook example of somebody who can't play.
Peter Hook
LOL.
If you want a textbook example of somebody who can't play.
... but who somehow managed to get some good hooks in there anyway.
Otherwise I'll disappear to the prog end of my collection and come back with some bedroom geeks who haven't learned to talk to people but can play at a million notes per minute - a skill they learned though furious masturbation.
Oh, and let's not forget Bernard Edwards from Chic -
Good Times
https://youtu.be/PP_JBPGkd-Y
Hi Hot Flatus.
I did remember Pino Palladino, he was on my list (quite high) but I seem to have skipped him when I was typing.
Mea Culpa !
Lars DanielssonYou missed out Ron Carter. And Mingus. And Thundercat. And Derrick Hodge is worth checking out too.
Anders Jormin
Arild Andersen
Roy Babbington
Eberhard Weber
Hugh Hopper
Brian Bromberg
Mark Sandman
Charlie Haden
Jonas Hellborg
Esperanza Spalding
Danny Thompson
Tal Wilkenfeld
Miroslav Vitous
Jannick Top
Jaco Pastorius
This thread is just a subtle method of flushing out and then blocking all the secret prog rock fans, isn't it.All of my nominees are from the Jazz world.
This thread is just a subtle method of flushing out and then blocking all the secret prog rock fans, isn't it.All of my nominees are from the Jazz world.
As a combined rhythm unit aren't Mick Fleetwood and John McVie meant to be one of the best pairings on the planet ?
Mark Sandman
Any of the guys that play bass for Scary Pockets
This thread is just a subtle method of flushing out and then blocking all the secret prog rock fans, isn't it.
Also inspirational:
James Jamieson
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This thread is just a subtle method of flushing out and then blocking all the secret prog rock fans, isn't it.
That's why we need Peter Hook :thumbsup:
;DThis thread is just a subtle method of flushing out and then blocking all the secret prog rock fans, isn't it.
That's why we need Peter Hook :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En1e65Y-6CM
Inspirational
All of my nominees are from the Jazz world.
Nathan East? relatively unknown because he is a session player
Steve Harris of that Iron Maiden, that they have now. And Lemmy in his Hawkwind days.
Steve Harris of that Iron Maiden, that they have now. And Lemmy in his Hawkwind days.
Lemmy on Master of the Universe
Has anybody mentioned the wonderful Carol Kaye?
Has anybody mentioned the wonderful Carol Kaye?
In the OP's list, otherwise I would have said something.
Have to admit I was never really aware of her until there was a programme on BBC4 a couple of years ago about influential bass players, in which she figured quite prominently, as you'd expect. Presented by Tina Weymouth, which is probably the main reason I watched it. Not currently available on iPlayer, unfortunately...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00023xl
Has anybody mentioned the wonderful Carol Kaye?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Kaye (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Kaye)
Just that intro to Witchita Lineman has to earn her a place here, surely?
recommend some bass players to inspire
Obviously, listen to lots of music. But it's much more satisfying (and instructive) to be able to say, "Hey, Pino's playing the 3 and 5 of the opening chord, with no root!" on his stand out intro to Paul Young's version of "Wherever I Lay My Hat" than to have to look up the TAB of aome dubious transcription on the net.
Sorry if that sounds didactic (I'm a didact). There are some great players in these posts - but study will help her appreciate them more - and emulate them quicker!
Peter Hook displays none of these. He just lucked out with being in a band whose sound allowed a bass player to just thrash along to the melody. There's little in the way of phrasing or dynamics there.
Four pages without Leland Sklar?
You'd never heard of him but you had heard him.
That sample.
I was into Billy Cobham in the 80s, so it kind of pissed me off when Massive Attack pinched the line.
You'd never heard of him but you had heard him.
That goes for quite a few names mentioned in this thread, tbh. I mean, I couldn't have told you the name of the bass player on, for example, Paul Young's Wherever I Lay My Hat, even though I've always loved that record and its iconic bass line. When it came out, I was 10 years old - I wouldn't have cared who was in the band.
Just came across this on Youtube which made me think of this thread... and I know Entwistle was mentioned in the OP, but fuck me, if I played bass, this is precisely the kind of performance I would aspire to so it needs sharing... so utterly fucking cool... while Daltrey and Townshend prance around like the monstrous pricks they are...
https://youtu.be/80dsyo2Ox-0
Just came across this on Youtube which made me think of this thread... and I know Entwistle was mentioned in the OP, but fuck me, if I played bass, this is precisely the kind of performance I would aspire to so it needs sharing... so utterly fucking cool... while Daltrey and Townshend prance around like the monstrous pricks they are...
https://youtu.be/80dsyo2Ox-0
Wow. And throughout the whole thing he looks bored rigid - or maybe he had been indulging.
Has anyone mentioned Tal Wilkenfeld yet?
Just came across this on Youtube which made me think of this thread... and I know Entwistle was mentioned in the OP, but fuck me, if I played bass, this is precisely the kind of performance I would aspire to so it needs sharing... so utterly fucking cool... while Daltrey and Townshend prance around like the monstrous pricks they are...
https://youtu.be/80dsyo2Ox-0
Wow. And throughout the whole thing he looks bored rigid - or maybe he had been indulging.
As per one of the comments:
"John just rips out this masterpiece while, in his mind, he is debating what to have for dinner, or trying to remember if he took out the garbage last night."
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He's very special, isn't he? Have you any idea who's playing bass on this? It's Aretha with "Don't Play that Song" but a much better version than the already good single. It might be James Jamerson but it might also be some English session guy, like Herbie Flowers. Whoever, they know what they're doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA)
He's very special, isn't he? Have you any idea who's playing bass on this? It's Aretha with "Don't Play that Song" but a much better version than the already good single. It might be James Jamerson but it might also be some English session guy, like Herbie Flowers. Whoever, they know what they're doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA)
Yeah true dat.
There's a sensible discussion about Aretha and bass over here:
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/who-was-aretha-franklins-bass-player.142150/
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He's very special, isn't he? Have you any idea who's playing bass on this? It's Aretha with "Don't Play that Song" but a much better version than the already good single. It might be James Jamerson but it might also be some English session guy, like Herbie Flowers. Whoever, they know what they're doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqsRKwwwtA)
Sounds like a full on BBC light entertainment orchestra, full of unsung talents turning their hands to anything day in, day out for Musicians' Union standard rates.
Speaking of Musicians' Union, if the backing wasn't a tape, surely it's very unlikely that a BBC special from 1970 would be using foreign talent in the backing band?
Link here https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/8da3065b691e4cd6953c94a214c0eda6 (https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/8da3065b691e4cd6953c94a214c0eda6) suggests that in fact it might be "Norrie Paramor and his Orchestra". Norrie being something of a titan of easy listening, it would seem.
(Whoever it is, yes they're great)
I'm not interested in those who's technical ability is not matched by musicality, only those who have made beautiful music on bass.
...
Mark King (not for the unbearable slap, but actually his fingerstyle is stunning)
...
Re Peter Hook, it doesn't matter.
I would rather have great music with a "shit" player than shit music with a "great" player.
I suspect Joy Division and to a lesser extend New Order were quite different on record and live. Martin Hannet more or less created the sound of the recorded version of Joy Division which was something the band saw as different to how they thought of their music.
Just about the only Jaco comparable, except on a double-bass?
Re Peter Hook, it doesn't matter.
I would rather have great music with a "shit" player than shit music with a "great" player.
I suspect Joy Division and to a lesser extend New Order were quite different on record and live. Martin Hannet more or less created the sound of the recorded version of Joy Division which was something the band saw as different to how they thought of their music.
I saw New Order in 82, I think.
Late on stage. Uninterested, 45 minutes. Booing when the punters realised that was it.
Just about the only Jaco comparable, except on a double-bass?
Allegedly Barney holds the record for the most vocal takes required in a studio recording. This was before Auto-Tune, obvs.Re Peter Hook, it doesn't matter.
I would rather have great music with a "shit" player than shit music with a "great" player.
I suspect Joy Division and to a lesser extend New Order were quite different on record and live. Martin Hannet more or less created the sound of the recorded version of Joy Division which was something the band saw as different to how they thought of their music.
I saw New Order in 82, I think.
Late on stage. Uninterested, 45 minutes. Booing when the punters realised that was it.
I saw them in 98 at one of their farewell gigs in Manchester. Wasn't there to see them, was there for Underworld and Andy Weatherall.
I think they are one of those bands into which people invest their identity, thus the loyal following. They could have just gone and stage, pulled down their trousers, coiled one out and walked off and half the crowd would still have clapped and said it was the best gig ever.
Musically, this was pretty much what happened.
Re Peter Hook, it doesn't matter.
I would rather have great music with a "shit" player than shit music with a "great" player.
I suspect Joy Division and to a lesser extend New Order were quite different on record and live. Martin Hannet more or less created the sound of the recorded version of Joy Division which was something the band saw as different to how they thought of their music.
I saw New Order in 82, I think.
Late on stage. Uninterested, 45 minutes. Booing when the punters realised that was it.