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Tourist Tony

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Essay writing
« on: 24 April, 2008, 04:45:20 pm »
On the intertextuality of verbal creativity......
My brain aches.

FatBloke

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #1 on: 24 April, 2008, 04:56:58 pm »
Sounds like bollox to me!!  ;D
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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #2 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:03:54 pm »
Swap it for an excerpt from current assignment (MT365):-

Explain why it is not possible to have a semi-regular polyhedron in which
exactly three faces, namely a triangle, a square and an octagon, meet at
each vertex. (It is not sufficient merely to observe that such a polyhedron
is not in the list on page 35 of the unit.)

(Please, no-one post the answer as I haven't submitted mine yet. I'm not looking for other people to do my assignment)
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

HTFB

  • The Monkey and the Plywood Violin
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #3 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:07:59 pm »
"The intertextuality of verbal creativity" = "authors lift quotes from each other".

1) Yes.
2) Of course literary academics are keen on this, because it makes their expertise in reading books look like an actual field of study.
3) Anybody who uses the word "intertextuality" when either "allusion" or "quotation" would do needs to have their poetic licence revoked for writing without due care and attention.
4) Spot the Joycean references in this post.
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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #4 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:10:23 pm »
3) Anybody who uses the word "intertextuality" when either "allusion" or "quotation" would do needs to have their poetic licence revoked for writing without due care and attention.

If you carry on like this I might even convince Ruth to sign up to a cycling forum ;-)

Tourist Tony

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #5 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:15:46 pm »
"The intertextuality of verbal creativity" = "authors lift quotes from each other".

1) Yes.
2) Of course literary academics are keen on this, because it makes their expertise in reading books look like an actual field of study.
3) Anybody who uses the word "intertextuality" when either "allusion" or "quotation" would do needs to have their poetic licence revoked for writing without due care and attention.
4) Spot the Joycean references in this post.
Nope, spot the "verbal". The conscious and unconscious reasons people echo and quote each other.....not authorial plagiarism.

HTFB

  • The Monkey and the Plywood Violin
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #6 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:20:17 pm »
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On edit: more observations.
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HTFB

  • The Monkey and the Plywood Violin
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #7 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:22:40 pm »
"The intertextuality of verbal creativity" = "authors lift quotes from each other".
Nope, spot the "verbal". The conscious and unconscious reasons people echo and quote each other.....not authorial plagiarism.
Ah, but everything is a text: we're all authors here.
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Tourist Tony

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #8 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:24:33 pm »
Yup, but this is restricted to the subset of texts that are utterances.

HTFB

  • The Monkey and the Plywood Violin
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #9 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:27:05 pm »
Oh, if your tutors don't know the difference between "verbal" and "oral"...   ::-)
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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #10 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:28:48 pm »
I couldn't resist the maths puzzle either... Solution will not appear unless I work out how to hide it like HTFB.


Tourist Tony

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #11 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:30:46 pm »
Oh, if your tutors don't know the difference between "verbal" and "oral"...   ::-)
;D Is the term in all the textbooks.....

Re: Essay writing
« Reply #12 on: 24 April, 2008, 05:37:11 pm »
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simonali

Re: Essay writing
« Reply #13 on: 24 April, 2008, 08:26:39 pm »
Cyclists are clevurrr!

Re: Essay writing
« Reply #14 on: 24 April, 2008, 11:50:27 pm »
You mean, speeches read out from texts?  Given that the opening gambit was basically meaningless, it's as well to define in reasonable language exactly what it refers to.

Tourist Tony

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #15 on: 24 April, 2008, 11:52:11 pm »
 ;D
Nope, the subject is the study of creativity in everyday speech, ranging from bad puns to silences. Not reading aloud.

Clare

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #16 on: 25 April, 2008, 08:28:14 am »
;D
Nope, the subject is the study of creativity in everyday speech, ranging from bad puns to silences. Not reading aloud.

Yebbut  I had to read the OP aloud and with my finger running over the words to understand it and I still say there is at least one word in there that does not actually exist.

Also I don't understand the triangles thing, can somebody build a model please?

My brain hurts  :-[

Re: Essay writing
« Reply #17 on: 25 April, 2008, 10:38:07 am »
Also I don't understand the triangles thing, can somebody build a model please?

But that's the point, you can't build a model of it.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Clare

  • Is in NZ
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #18 on: 25 April, 2008, 10:42:53 am »
Also I don't understand the triangles thing, can somebody build a model please?

But that's the point, you can't build a model of it.

But could you build a model proving that you can't build a model?  ;)

David Martin

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #19 on: 25 April, 2008, 03:25:09 pm »
Also I don't understand the triangles thing, can somebody build a model please?

But that's the point, you can't build a model of it.

So each vertex must have an edge from 1 and only 1 each of a triangle, square, and octagon?

For every octagon vertex you need one triangle vertex and one square vertex.

It doesn't work..

..d 
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Clare

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #20 on: 25 April, 2008, 03:42:47 pm »
What's a vertex?

HTFB

  • The Monkey and the Plywood Violin
Re: Essay writing
« Reply #21 on: 25 April, 2008, 03:47:28 pm »
A vertex is the point at the corner of a polyhedron, where three faces meet. An edge is the line where two faces meet.
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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #22 on: 25 April, 2008, 05:23:46 pm »
;D
Nope, the subject is the study of creativity in everyday speech, ranging from bad puns to silences. Not reading aloud.

To be honest, if someone asked me what "verbal creativity" meant I'd say "telling lies".

Perhaps you could use as an example how the neologisms of Prof. D. N. A. Larrington BE(Nt) filter down from the lofty heights of Academia, and are used, quite unwittingly, by the common oaves?  ;D

rogerzilla

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #23 on: 25 April, 2008, 06:50:18 pm »
On the intertextuality of verbal creativity......
My brain aches.

I think it's saying you should Google someone else's work and plagiarise it.
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Tourist Tony

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Re: Essay writing
« Reply #24 on: 25 April, 2008, 07:09:09 pm »
I'm plagiarising myself.....