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Title: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 30 July, 2016, 04:25:12 pm
Nothing really, I'd just thought I'd mention it.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 July, 2016, 09:10:03 pm
Has it started, then?
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 30 July, 2016, 09:16:00 pm
My earworm for the next 3 weeks

https://youtu.be/e3W6yf6c-FA
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: andrew_s on 30 July, 2016, 09:41:17 pm
Has it started, then?
Taking this at face value...
football group rounds starts Wednesday, opening ceremony Friday, main competition starts Saturday, first medal (air rifle) at or shortly before 15:00, cycling road race finishes circa 19:30.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 30 July, 2016, 09:44:35 pm
Has it started, then?

The sport (FCVO) - not yet.

The Apocalympics* are well underway - see all the stories about the Zika virus, the state of the athletes' accommodation, shakedowns by police, the sailing/open water swimming/triathlon taking place in literal sea of shit (and the occasional dead body or parts thereof)...

If anything, those Russians who have been barred from going to Rio have probably been done a huge favour.  :demon:

* Hat-tip to Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/apocalympics2016/)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 30 July, 2016, 09:48:42 pm
Is that something like a Pockyclypse, only not in Australia?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 30 July, 2016, 09:53:32 pm
Think 'Chariots Of Fire' meets 'Apocalypto'...
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Post by: Jaded on 30 July, 2016, 11:55:59 pm
There have been apocalypse stories about the Olympics every four years.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 06 August, 2016, 12:00:33 am
So tired. Can't decide whether to go to bed or stay up and watch the ceremony. Why can't I have the broadcast beamed into my brain while I sleep?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 06 August, 2016, 02:17:12 am
And the prize for the most vom-inducing outfits so far goes to Norway.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 06 August, 2016, 12:12:53 pm
I watched until GB came in, then recorded the rest. This has enabled me to watch it while ffwding through the teams coming in (cos that's boring) and the boring speeches. I've just got to someone getting a special award.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Psychler on 06 August, 2016, 12:30:11 pm
.... I've just got to someone getting a special award.

Kip Keino - he's 76 and they made him run.
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Post by: simonp on 07 August, 2016, 01:15:08 am
Nasty injury to a French gymnast Samir Ait Said.  Double break of the lower leg. The BBC are not showing pictures or video.

Hope he makes a full recovery.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 August, 2016, 09:38:16 am
Nasty injury to a French gymnast Samir Ait Said.  Double break of the lower leg. The BBC are not showing pictures or video.

Hope he makes a full recovery.
There is a photo of the aftermath here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-07/olympic-gymnast-samir-ait-said-breaks-leg/7698100 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-07/olympic-gymnast-samir-ait-said-breaks-leg/7698100)
It looks like a mid-shin break, which is better than a joint break I guess. Looks ghastly.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: T42 on 07 August, 2016, 09:58:13 am
It does, and thanks for the link. The man suffered it, we can at least look and see how horrible it was.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 August, 2016, 06:40:23 pm
It's really gruesome.

I am watching the tennis on the telly and the swimming on the laptop. Plus I think I'm getting "red button finger."
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mike on 07 August, 2016, 07:14:45 pm
best thing so far (apart from the comedy rowing through waves) is the sevens rugby - brilliant to watch.  GB women going well too. 
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 August, 2016, 08:11:51 pm
Now I have gymnastics on the laptop and diving on the telly.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 August, 2016, 09:51:15 pm
Chris Hoy is doing a live chat/Q&A on the Team GB facebook page. I am dying laughing that they asked him my question.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 08 August, 2016, 07:03:04 am
It does, and thanks for the link. The man suffered it, we can at least look and see how horrible it was.

Not for me, thanks. The cycling was spoiled too by seeing Van Vleuten's crash. Poor Chris Boardman was clearly affected by it after his mother's death.
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Post by: Wowbagger on 08 August, 2016, 09:18:12 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37000676

On a more positive note, that's a very spectacular goal from China.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 08 August, 2016, 09:35:11 am
Good vision. Saw the 'keeper off their line and pinged it. Always worth a pop.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 August, 2016, 09:54:54 am
best thing so far (apart from the comedy rowing through waves) is the sevens rugby - brilliant to watch.  GB women going well too.
Five of the rugby sevens players are from Bristol! Only three of the five are playing for GB though...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 08 August, 2016, 11:01:22 am
A French judo player (or whatever one does at judo) was disqualified yesterday for touching her opponent's leg. It would be almost comical if it weren't so distressing for the judo-ist involved. Neither 'player' knew what was going on - because neither realised it had happened - and the referee/judge/umpire had to explain.

Apparently, you cannot take your opponent by the leg with your hand (you can use your own leg though) as a first-off move. The French player hadn't attempted a hold, her arm/hand merely touched the opponents leg. Tough call... but them's the rules.   :-\
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 08 August, 2016, 01:14:22 pm
Michael Phelps just won his 19th (NINETEENTH) Olympic Gold Medal (23 medals in all).

I don't want to jump to any conclusions but I reckon he's, potentially, a good swimmer.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 08 August, 2016, 01:17:27 pm
A French judo player (or whatever one does at judo)

A practitioner of Judo is called a Judoka apparently

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo#Judoka_.28practitioner.29
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 August, 2016, 02:58:22 pm
Michael Phelps just won his 19th (NINETEENTH) Olympic Gold Medal (23 medals in all).

I don't want to jump to any conclusions but I reckon he's, potentially, a good swimmer.

I would suggest that he has little potential left!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 08 August, 2016, 03:18:25 pm
Talking of strange rules:
I did try to get into the fencing. but apparently you don't score anything for sticking your sword in your opponent's torso if they have
Right of Way.

I'm sure it makes sense if you follow these things ...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 08 August, 2016, 03:23:00 pm
My understanding was that you could get a point assuming they missed on their right of way and you managed a hit but if you both hit then the hitter with right of way got the point.

Exactly what 'right of way' meant didn't appear to be clearly explained last night.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 08 August, 2016, 03:48:43 pm
Having read the Wikipedia page on it, I'm not surprised it wasn't clearly explained as it's non-trivial.
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Post by: Andrew on 08 August, 2016, 04:11:59 pm
I saw a bit of table tennis yesterday; a French women against a Puerto Rican women. The Puerto Rican looked about 12, really cherubic. The French women was all power and spin, really giving the ball wellie. The Puerto Rican would just plink the return back... over and over again; smash/spin, plink, smash/spin, plink.... she was playing as if she was down at the youth club playing with her mates. She was getting a hammering but she was just so refreshing to watch. I really really wanted her to win  :-[

Edit: I've just looked up the result. She got beaten 4-0 in 40 minutes, scoring a total of 23 points and only 1 point in the first match. Adriana Diaz is her name, she's 15.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 08 August, 2016, 05:10:22 pm
Talking of strange rules:
I did try to get into the fencing. but apparently you don't score anything for sticking your sword in your opponent's torso if they have
Right of Way.

I'm sure it makes sense if you follow these things ...

Did these same rules apply in battle?

I'd be more interested if they used proper, double-handed, swords.  Come to think of it it could improve some of the Horsey events.

Proper Fencing... Vulcan Style!

(Sings - "Dah Dah Dah Dah Dah Daddadahhdah"
(https://67.media.tumblr.com/e4dfab56174b05a61e8b4ab3f0b89509/tumblr_inline_ob3zcz1af31uryade_500.gif)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 08 August, 2016, 05:39:27 pm
James T Kirk in peek-a-boo nipple shock.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 08 August, 2016, 06:11:32 pm
James T Kirk in peek-a-boo nipple shock.

Yeah it was his right of way so he has the points.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 August, 2016, 06:51:47 pm
I tweeted BBC Sport to ask them to do more underwater shots in the swimming so I can see what the arms are doing and they said they'd pass it on. I think they've taken notice; they're definitely showing more of the underwater. Some of those swimmers have quite asymmetrical arm movements.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 August, 2016, 06:56:27 pm
That Peat guy swims about 4 times as fast as I do. When I try hard I can do a 25 metre length in under a minute. I don't think I can keep that speed up or 4 lengths though.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 August, 2016, 07:18:57 pm
Meanwhile BRITAIN are having any chance of a medal in the women's Rugby destroyed by New Toyland chiz.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 08 August, 2016, 07:31:44 pm
Meanwhile BRITAIN are having any chance of a medal in the women's Rugby destroyed by New Toyland chiz.

BRITAIN can still get bronze if they beat Canuckistan again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37016272
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 08 August, 2016, 07:36:52 pm
From the above link....

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The Black Ferns regained the advantage through Ruby Tui, 

It was obviously her day.

Sod my coat, I'll just leave.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 08 August, 2016, 07:54:42 pm
We're struggling to watch much, none of the red button channels seems to have a decent signal strength in our area  :-\
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 August, 2016, 08:42:39 pm
Talking of strange rules:
I did try to get into the fencing. but apparently you don't score anything for sticking your sword in your opponent's torso if they have
Right of Way.

I'm sure it makes sense if you follow these things ...
That's foil and sabre. With Epee, it's just who hits first.

The idea with foil and sabre is that you wouldn't persist with an attack if in doing so meant you would get hit (if the blades were pointed and sharpened). So you have to 'defend' then attack. The defense can take the form of a simple parry, a more complex parry feint, simply moving out of line etc etc.
It gets complicated and down to a judge when someone feints, you move to defend, then they attack. Your defense is actually to the feint, and not to the attack. However these things happen so fast it is almost impossible to see without superslo-mo. Takes very experienced judges to understand what is going on.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 August, 2016, 09:26:47 pm
Tom Daley and someone Goodfellow just got bronze in the men's 10m platform synchro diving.

I love watching diving. The synchro is mesmerising. One of the best things bobb and I ever did was spend a weekend watching the FINA world series at the Commie Pool. The Chinese divers are phenomenal.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 08 August, 2016, 11:04:16 pm
That Peat guy swims about 4 times as fast as I do. When I try hard I can do a 25 metre length in under a minute. I don't think I can keep that speed up or 4 lengths though.

I've always struggled to understand why there are different events for different swimming strokes. 

Walking is another one that baffles me.  Walking is the Breaststroke of the Running world.

If swimming has "Butterfly" and "Backstroke" then Athletics should have Hopping and Skipping (simply add jumping for a silly "Triple-Jump" event).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 08 August, 2016, 11:19:17 pm
They have such an event. They call it "freestyle".
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 09 August, 2016, 08:29:19 am
They have such an event. They call it "freestyle".
Is there an equivalent of HPVA of the swimming world, where people can where whatever flippers or fins they like and see how fast they can go?

I'd watch that.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 09 August, 2016, 09:51:10 am
Someone once told me (so it must be true) that in a freestyle event swimmers can use whatever stroke they like (as the name suggests)... within reason I guess, no snorkels and flippers (sorry simonp)... nor heat stroke, or two stroke, or Basingstroke (ok, I'm reaching now)...

..anyways, as people are inclined to use  'front crawl' (is there a back crawl?) as it is generally the fastest stroke, the 'freestyle' name has become synonymous with it. Apparently, strictly speaking, one can use butterfly (or back stroke, or perhaps even doggie paddle) in a freestyle event. You probably wouldn't win though.  There's hope for me then. I'd give the 100 metre dog paddle a go.

Oh, and Wiki confirms so it really IS true.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Peter on 09 August, 2016, 10:12:30 am
Yes, I think freestyle is anything.  Years ago when triathlons were new, I was waiting to start the swimming, which was in the leisure centre pool, so we were doing lengths.  A chap strutted round us asking which stroke we were using.  When I said "breaststroke", he snorted and said, "keep out of my way, then!"  I wasn't first out of the pool but I lapped him twice.  I can do crawl but I'm just not very good at it.  Those were the days.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 09 August, 2016, 10:19:40 am
I'm just as fast doing sidestroke as I am doing crawl - and I can do sidestroke as quick as many people can crawl. I think the only time I tried doing butterfly I actually went backwards.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 August, 2016, 10:24:59 am
(is there a back crawl?)

Conventional backstroke is sometimes known as "back crawl" as there exists a backstroke which combines the both-arms-together nonse of butterfly with the frog-stylee leg action of breaststroke, laeding to spectacular inefficiency, lots of splashing and water up the nose.  As a small Mr Larrington I was sometimes obliged to perform this monstrosity - which apparently goes by the name of "Old English backstroke" - by sadistic PE teachers.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Peter on 09 August, 2016, 10:29:59 am
If you get it right, it's pretty good!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 August, 2016, 04:12:11 pm
My efforts at achieving something resembling front crawl invariably ended with me writhing around with my toes in a knot of cramp.

Besides, I like stroking breasts.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: philip on 09 August, 2016, 04:36:37 pm
The fastest way to swim is the underwater "dolphin kick"; it is even faster than than front crawl but the rules limit how much it can be used.
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Post by: ElyDave on 09 August, 2016, 05:11:33 pm
I once likened my swimming to something like a house brick crossed with an egg-whisk on speed
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Post by: Wowbagger on 09 August, 2016, 06:21:14 pm
Quote from: BBC radio bod
She was expelled from school for fighting with boys until she found judo...
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 August, 2016, 07:08:50 pm
Yebbut none of that addresses Lee's point, which is that whereas athletics simply has "run this distance as fast as you can", swimming has "swim this distance using your arms and legs in a certain way". The running equivalent of swimming events could be "the 100m with your arms by your sides", "the 200m with your arms above your head", "the 400m on tip toes", "the 800m starting on the left foot", etc.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 09 August, 2016, 07:15:48 pm
Running 100m backwards.

Swimming is weird.

One bloke has 19 Gold Medals in four Olympic Games. He could have got more, he got a few bronzes and silvers.

Another has 5 Gold Medals in 5 games. He couldn't possibly have got any more.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 August, 2016, 07:28:17 pm
Dear British spectators. Plz to be having your Union flags/jacks teh right way up. Kthxbai.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 09 August, 2016, 07:29:02 pm
Running 100m backwards.

Swimming is weird.

One bloke has 19 Gold Medals in four Olympic Games. He could have got more, he got a few bronzes and silvers.

Another has 5 Gold Medals in 5 games. He couldn't possibly have got any more.
... is true, but would be true without swimming. e.g. the track sprinters can often grab 4+ medals (1/200 or 2/400, plus a relay-or-two, plus the long jump and/or hurdles).

It does seem harsh, but these inequalities will always crop-up.(Unless you impose a 1-medal-max rule ... )

(although I do find the gymnastics all-rounder contest a bit over-the-top )
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 09 August, 2016, 10:25:22 pm
Yebbut none of that addresses Lee's point, which is that whereas athletics simply has "run this distance as fast as you can", swimming has "swim this distance using your arms and legs in a certain way". The running equivalent of swimming events could be "the 100m with your arms by your sides", "the 200m with your arms above your head", "the 400m on tip toes", "the 800m starting on the left foot", etc.

Yebbut surely there's only really one way of running, one foot in front of the other as fast as you can to get to the end of the race? Unless you want three legged races.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 09 August, 2016, 10:27:09 pm
The algae in the diving pool made the diving even much more entertaining. 
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Post by: LEE on 09 August, 2016, 10:35:15 pm
I'm just as fast doing sidestroke as I am doing crawl - and I can do sidestroke as quick as many people can crawl. I think the only time I tried doing butterfly I actually went backwards.

The fastest, and the most efficient, stroke is front-crawl.  That's why it's used in "Freestyle" by every single swimmer.
All the other strokes are basically swimming with a handicap.  The awards for those events are basically "The fastest at the slow swimming".

The 50km walk can be run much faster and, since every walker cheats, and runs occasionally, it's fecking pointless.  It should be the 50km Freestyle (walk if you want to and meet us in the cafe when you get in).

You may be able to do "sidestroke" as quickly as others can do front crawl but that basically means they aren't very good at front crawl.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 09 August, 2016, 10:42:17 pm
Why not just make the marathon 50km?

There is an international ultra championship btw.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 10 August, 2016, 09:17:22 am
Rio Olympics: Why are there so many empty seats? (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37030199)

For some reason this story is available only in the UK:

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The BBC's Wyre Davies looks at why there are so many empty seats at Rio 2016.
Available to UK users only.

So if you are in a foreign land what should you not be told?

(Make it up if you like, I won't know.  The most imaginative answer gets a Star Prize!)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 10 August, 2016, 10:18:40 am
Michael Phelps just won his 19th (NINETEENTH) Olympic Gold Medal (23 medals in all).

I don't want to jump to any conclusions but I reckon he's, potentially, a good swimmer.

I would suggest that he has little potential left!

You were wrong.. he had potential for another 2 Gold medals so he still had more potential than any British swimmer.

21 Golds and counting.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 August, 2016, 10:29:29 am
Not empty seats, just spectators in fancy dress.  Odd that so many of them should be wearing the same costume, but hey.
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Post by: LEE on 10 August, 2016, 02:14:09 pm
Watched the Gymnastics yesterday.  It's incredible.

The women now do more complex "tumbling" routines on the (3.9") Beam than Olga Korbut did on the floor.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 10 August, 2016, 02:22:52 pm
Yebbut none of that addresses Lee's point, which is that whereas athletics simply has "run this distance as fast as you can", swimming has "swim this distance using your arms and legs in a certain way". The running equivalent of swimming events could be "the 100m with your arms by your sides", "the 200m with your arms above your head", "the 400m on tip toes", "the 800m starting on the left foot", etc.

Yebbut surely there's only really one way of running, one foot in front of the other as fast as you can to get to the end of the race? Unless you want three legged races.

Yes, but only in the same way there's only really one way of swimming, front-crawl, one arm in front of the other. 
All other types of swimming are designed to slow the competitors down.

Walking is the running equivalent of Breast-stroke.
The 50km walk is actually a silly running event, reverting to silly walking only when judges are in the viscinity. 
EVERY top competitor in the 50km walk "cheats" so they may as well scrap it or make it "freestyle". It's only 5 miles (25 mins) further than the Marathon.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 10 August, 2016, 05:56:35 pm
The algae in the diving pool made the diving even much more entertaining.

Lord Percy Percy:  That's not algae, that's a pool full of purest Green.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 August, 2016, 07:50:25 pm
Hurrah for BRITAIN's J Clarke, who has just pwned all teh FOREIGNS in the Chaps K1 slalom :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 August, 2016, 09:15:46 pm
I keep hearing the BRITISH contenders in the 3m springboard diving as "Laura Mears", which is an odd moniker for a pair of Chaps.  But it doesn't matter because they just pwned teh FOREIGNS for the Win :thumbsup:
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Post by: madcow on 10 August, 2016, 09:41:24 pm
Whilst all the media attention has been on Tom Daley, Jack and Chris have been quietly building to a gold medal.
IIRC Jack Laugher did quite well in last years World  Series Championships , which was almost unnoticed except in the small print of  some sports pages and the front page of our local rag.

My tenuous claim to fame here-Jack Laugher went to same school as my kids and  I once saw him shopping in the local Sainsbury's with his mum.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 10 August, 2016, 09:54:12 pm
I didn't recognise most of the forrin divers; I think some of them are relatively young and inexperienced. Messrs Laugher and Mears, however, have been around a while and have got better and better.

GB: best at jumping in the water together.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: simonp on 10 August, 2016, 10:01:19 pm
Apparently they were very good. I can spot a really bad dive but struggle to tell the good from the very good. This is why I'm not a diving judge.

I thought the Mexican pair were badly treated. The light coming on just as they started their move up the board could have distracted them.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 10 August, 2016, 10:27:05 pm
Yeah, they should have had a redive for that.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 August, 2016, 08:09:56 am
Hurrah for BRITAIN's J Clarke, who has just pwned all teh FOREIGNS in the Chaps K1 slalom :thumbsup:
That should get more thumbs up. K1 slalom is immensely difficult, requiring huge fitness, skill and focus. The UK has some truly great training courses now (middlesborough of all places has a terrific course)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 07:23:28 pm
Hurrah!  BRITAIN has just pwned South Africa in the Chaps ruggerball to set up a final against Fiji.

So, a silver medal then :-\
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 11 August, 2016, 09:21:26 pm
Wow the lads and the lasses have just qualified to next round with world record times, fast them cyclist :)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: red marley on 11 August, 2016, 09:31:49 pm
So what's the verdict on team USA's left-hand drive bikes then? Looks like they may have benefited more from practicing team riding skills if the women's team pursuit quals are anything to go by.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 09:42:16 pm
Don they have any explanation for this - either rational or pseudo-SCIENCE?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 11 August, 2016, 09:54:17 pm
When riding counter-clockwise, the LH side of the bike is travelling a little slower on average than the RH side. Putting the chainring and chain on the slower side of the bike reduces drag.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 10:00:39 pm
TV's C Boardman reckons it's mostly psychological ;D
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Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 11 August, 2016, 10:22:15 pm
Of course it is.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: red marley on 11 August, 2016, 10:22:39 pm
Perhaps someone here better than I can do the maths, but I'd have thought with the banking on the curves, the difference in speed relative to the air flow on the inside and outside of the bottom bracket has to be tiny. Marginal gains indeed.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 11 August, 2016, 10:43:31 pm
Boom.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 10:44:14 pm
Hurrah for BRITAIN! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 11 August, 2016, 10:58:32 pm
2500 watts per corner!! No wonder they looked tired!! Great stuff
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Clare on 11 August, 2016, 11:12:23 pm
Hurrah!  BRITAIN has just pwned South Africa in the Chaps ruggerball to set up a final against Fiji.

So, a silver medal then :-\

Yup.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 11 August, 2016, 11:13:42 pm
Getting annihilated by Fiji.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 11 August, 2016, 11:16:47 pm
Well, they are the favourites...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 11 August, 2016, 11:17:24 pm
There's favorite and there's getting pummeled into the ground!!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 11:19:01 pm
And there was me thinking Japan-South Africa was a bit of a mismatch :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 August, 2016, 11:35:40 pm
Oh dear...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 11 August, 2016, 11:40:20 pm
2500 watts per corner!! No wonder they looked tired!! Great stuff

That's Philip Hindes pushing 2500Watts out of the gate into the first corner.

Hard to even imagine. 
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 11 August, 2016, 11:41:51 pm
2500 watts per corner!! No wonder they looked tired!! Great stuff

That's Philip Hindes pushing 2500Watts out of the gate into the first corner.

I don't think I can get anywhere near that on my watt bike. Phenomenal! No wonder he has a specially built bike!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 11 August, 2016, 11:44:04 pm
2500 watts per corner!! No wonder they looked tired!! Great stuff

That's Philip Hindes pushing 2500Watts out of the gate into the first corner.

I don't think I can get anywhere near that on my watt bike. Phenomenal! No wonder he has a specially built bike!

How come, if you have a Wattbike, you don't know how close to 2500Watts you can get?

It's the first thing I'd try.

I get to around 900 Watts during Wattbike sessions, on short sprints but I've never had the opportunity to try a peak power test.

My FTP is around 240Watts and my Max Minute power is 362Watts.  (900 Watts is brutally hard, even for a couple of seconds).
Title: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 11 August, 2016, 11:44:57 pm
Cos I only been to 1,600 and I had to be lifted off!

I suppose I can have a go when I got some free time*

* by free time I don't plan to be on a bike for a week!!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 August, 2016, 11:50:56 pm
Why have I never heard of any of these GB rugby players?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 11 August, 2016, 11:57:17 pm
I cant work out why the commentators in the rugby were so crap. There was a moment right at the end when there were multiple replays in the GB line. I thought "That's a try" and quite a long time afterwards the referee/3rd official/whoever said "That's a try." and then, some second afterwards E. Butler (for it was he) said "Oh! He's awarded a try!"

OK, BBC. Give me a job as a rugby commentator.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 12:01:58 am
Why have I never heard of any of these GB rugby players?

Quote from: Wikinaccurate
Although sevens has proven a commercial and competitive success, sevens is starting to become divorced from the 15-man game. Former Wales international and current pundit John Taylor wrote in 2010 that sevens
“   ...is in danger of becoming a totally separate game. Ben Ryan, the England Sevens coach, dismisses the idea that it should be seen mainly as a development tool. A few years ago players would spend a year or two with the Sevens squad to improve their running and passing skills. Many international players refined their game on the Sevens circuit including all-time greats such as Jonah Lomu.
That is happening less and less. Players have to make a choice – do they want to concentrate on Sevens or 15s? The techniques and training required are becoming very different. Modern professional players are already pretty lean but the forwards in 15-a-side do need bulk as well. In Sevens that is not required and new training regimes are making body fat levels even lower so they are not able to transfer from one game to the other.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 12 August, 2016, 12:03:23 am
(in the continuing series of lazy questions)

Why are Hungary doing so well? Are they shit-hot fencers and swimmers, or what?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 12 August, 2016, 12:17:16 am
(in the continuing series of lazy questions)

Why are Hungary doing so well? Are they shit-hot fencers and swimmers, or what?

To answer my own question: yes, and they have an extraordinary swimmer.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 12 August, 2016, 12:38:51 am
Hurrah!  BRITAIN has just pwned South Africa in the Chaps ruggerball to set up a final against Fiji.

So, a silver medal then :-\

Lottery numbers next pls.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 03:24:46 am
Hurrah!  BRITAIN has just pwned South Africa in the Chaps ruggerball to set up a final against Fiji.

So, a silver medal then :-\

Lottery numbers next pls.

TWELVETY!!1!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 12 August, 2016, 08:18:54 am
Why have I never heard of any of these GB rugby players?

Quote from: Wikinaccurate
Although sevens has proven a commercial and competitive success, sevens is starting to become divorced from the 15-man game. Former Wales international and current pundit John Taylor wrote in 2010 that sevens
“   ...is in danger of becoming a totally separate game. Ben Ryan, the England Sevens coach, dismisses the idea that it should be seen mainly as a development tool. A few years ago players would spend a year or two with the Sevens squad to improve their running and passing skills. Many international players refined their game on the Sevens circuit including all-time greats such as Jonah Lomu.
That is happening less and less. Players have to make a choice – do they want to concentrate on Sevens or 15s? The techniques and training required are becoming very different. Modern professional players are already pretty lean but the forwards in 15-a-side do need bulk as well. In Sevens that is not required and new training regimes are making body fat levels even lower so they are not able to transfer from one game to the other.
Interestingly, I think the Kiwis had a number of players from their "fifteens" squad.   #nocitationgonnahappen


Did GB field any Welsh players that we can blame for that massacre? [I think there was only one Welsh woman.]
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 August, 2016, 08:30:12 am
(in the continuing series of lazy questions)

Why are Hungary doing so well? Are they shit-hot fencers and swimmers, or what?
Hungary is *the* country for fencing.
Asking 'are they any good at fencing' is a bit like like asking 'are there any decent basketball players in the USA?'.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 12 August, 2016, 08:30:57 am
GrugbyB7 will be well chuffed with silver. They would have taken that - as they say - before the tournament... but that, of course, would have been theft. Fiji are masters of 7s.

A question apropos of the 100m smiling handkerchief race; if a hypothetical chap in a hypothetical sport manages to win 20-something odd medals of the metallic variety, what are we to conclude? That he's really very very good at somethingball? Or perhaps that there are, as some have discussed, a number of similar varieties of the same thing? I'm inclined to believe the former.

There are times in sport when one sportoka is just SO much better at it than the other one - be it women's basketball (or rugby sevens?) or indeed the TdF - that it's almost unfair. It becomes a race for 2nd.   
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 09:18:33 am
(in the continuing series of lazy questions)

Why are Hungary doing so well? Are they shit-hot fencers and swimmers, or what?
Hungary is *the* country for fencing.

It's always worth checking Wickes prices first.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 12 August, 2016, 09:35:43 am
A question apropos of the 100m smiling handkerchief race; if a hypothetical chap in a hypothetical sport manages to win 20-something odd medals of the metallic variety, what are we to conclude? That he's really very very good at somethingball? Or perhaps that there are, as some have discussed, a number of similar varieties of the same thing? I'm inclined to believe the former.

Generally it will be a little of both.

But also, it can be a sign of how competitive a sport it - or perhaps I mean the depth of ability at the top. Take the TDF: there was a time when riders frequently won 3 of the main jerseys. But now the standards have risen*; the best GC guy can no longer compete with the top sprinters in a straight sprint.


*perhaps with more money in the sport? Dunno
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 09:54:59 am
The most individual Olympic Gold medals is topped by swimming (with Phelps) but the top 10 list goes like this

1 - Swimming
2- Gymnastics
3 - Athletics (middle distance)
4 - Swimming
5 - Athletics (Sprinting/Long Jump)
6 - Biathlon
7 - Skiing
8 - Canoeing
9 - Gymnastics
10- Swimming

So it's a fairly good spread of events.

#10 has 8 Golds.  Once you get below 8 then you can start to add Fencing, Cycling , Skating, Equestrian, Archery (all with 6).

What stands out most though is -

1 - Phelps (22)
2 - Latynina (Gymnastics) (9)

10 - Thompson (Swimming) ( 8 )

That's a considerable drop-off from #1 to #2 don't you think?

This isn't that Swimming helps you get millions of Gold medals it's about Michael Phelps being so far ahead of anyone else in history that he just gives the impression it's easy to win swimming golds*

If Swimming made it that easy then there should be another swimmer with, say, 15 Golds.

*Admittedly it would be a bit easier for the others if Phelps stopped competing.

It would help to normalise the achievements if they divided Team Golds by the number of members on the team.  So Team Pursuit would give you 1/4 of a Gold.

Several sports aid the big tallies by having team events in the very event that the Individual Gold medal winner just proved they are best at.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 10:03:52 am
Has anyone noticed the talisman effect of the BBC?

It's amazing but every event they decide to screen seems to have a positive effect on the British competitor and they always seem to do very well.

Good on you BBC.. now head over to the Handball event and see if you can help us get a Silver.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 10:27:20 am
Interestingly, I think the Kiwis had a number of players from their "fifteens" squad.   #nocitationgonnahappen

Didn't do them a lot of good, though; they lost to BRITAIN and Japan.

Did GB field any Welsh players that we can blame for that massacre? [I think there was only one Welsh woman.]

Two Welshoviks and a solitary Scot from the Tribal Areas.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 12 August, 2016, 12:18:11 pm
There's an interesting "discussion" on R2 with the delightful Vanessa Feltz and some geezer/journo who thinks it should be Gold or nothing. Tom Daley shouldn't be delighted with a Bronze medal.

He suggested that being a full-time GB-sponsored for (say) 8 years is
"an extension of the welfare state".

He makes some valid points, but it's mainly the usual shouty R2 "debate". (Although you have to laugh at brining Eddie the Eagle onto the programme).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 12:39:06 pm
He's free to treat it as "Gold or nothing" in his own world. Many athletes think the same. 

I suppose it's about expectations.  I didn't win PBP2011 but I'd have been happy with 3rd place* 

*In the end I just missed out in a photo-finish and came about 4,000th
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 12 August, 2016, 12:41:46 pm
And has geezer/journo ever attempted to be an elite athlete?

Until anyone gets to the top they have had to work incredibly hard both on and off their sporting field to prove they are worthy of 'our' investment. A total self absorbtion to the detriment of family life, career prospects if it all goes wrong and the risk of overtraining or injury meaning everything they have worked for could be gone in an instant.

Money is a finite resource in sport away from the big corporate stuff that is usually shown on television. We only see the top 1% and everyone else struggles to find enough money just to get on the plane to many of their events.

So geezer/journo go bog off as far as I'm concerned and I'm off to buy a lottery ticket with no hope of winning except for the feelgood factor of knowing I might be helping someone show how capable we are at all sports and not just the stable diet of the press - football (which we never win and millions gets invested).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 August, 2016, 01:13:50 pm
What trekker12 said.

Achieving a medal at the Olympics is like having spent a year tiptoeing barefoot on razor blades. A few, a very very lucky few, make some money from sponsorship and advertising deals. They are a tiny minority.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 12 August, 2016, 01:16:30 pm
There's an interesting "discussion" on R2 with the delightful Vanessa Feltz and some geezer/journo who thinks it should be Gold or nothing. Tom Daley shouldn't be delighted with a Bronze medal.

He suggested that being a full-time GB-sponsored for (say) 8 years is
"an extension of the welfare state".

He makes some valid points, but it's mainly the usual shouty R2 "debate". (Although you have to laugh at brining Eddie the Eagle onto the programme).
Och, he can fuck off. It's not like he's even the third best geezer/journo in the world.

Grace Reid is diving tonight. I've seen her dive loads of times, including into the pool I was having front crawl lessons in. She was very good about not landing on my head.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 12 August, 2016, 03:47:23 pm
Meanwhile more gold today at 'sitting down sports' which I find are the best kind. I've only ever sat down whilst competing.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 04:10:58 pm
Meanwhile more gold today at 'sitting down sports' which I find are the best kind. I've only ever sat down whilst competing.

AKA - "Requires a Carbon Fibre Thingy jointly developed with McClaren to compete properly ....sports"
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 12 August, 2016, 04:17:16 pm
On a similar subject did the British secret squirrel club think of putting the chain on the wrong side of the bike a la USA/Felt and decide it was pointless (they seemed to think of everything else) or are the USanians/Felt on to something?*

*
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mike on 12 August, 2016, 04:17:50 pm
Meanwhile more gold today at 'sitting down sports' which I find are the best kind. I've only ever sat down whilst competing.

AKA - "Requires a Carbon Fibre Thingy jointly developed with McClaren to compete properly ....sports"

not the wet sitting down sports - they're all pretty similar across all the different teams, lots of rules about not allowing new tech to keep it affordable which people seem pretty OK about sticking to.

GB rowing has done well as expected, except for Grainger / Thornelly who have done massively, massively better than expected.  3 months ago their performance was so bad they were about to give up and walk away from it all but a change of seating order and a lot of bloody-mindedness seems to have gone well.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 04:20:54 pm
Egyptian Judo player refuses to shake hands or bow to Israeli who just whooped his ass.

Disgraceful.

Why did he compete against him?  Oh yes.. because he wouldn't have minded if he'd beaten an Israeli I bet.  Nonce.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 12 August, 2016, 05:12:11 pm
Haha I saw that. Victory is even sweeter when that happens. Politics in sport is petty.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: PeteB99 on 12 August, 2016, 05:14:58 pm
Meanwhile more gold today at 'sitting down sports' which I find are the best kind. I've only ever sat down whilst competing.

AKA - "Requires a Carbon Fibre Thingy jointly developed with McClaren to compete properly ....sports"

GB rowing squad mostly seem to use Empacher boats. A German company with as far as I know no links to McLaren. As for carbon fibre I was racing CF composite boats in the early 80s. It's unusual to race anything else now.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 12 August, 2016, 05:29:32 pm
Not many spectators in the Athletics stadium...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 06:26:36 pm
Are you sure they're not the Barmy Army in fancy dress?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 07:33:10 pm
Crivens!  Two BRITONS has qualified for the final of the Gels Assisted Bouncing (aka trampolining, which I didn't know was even an Olympic sport until I pressed the button to get away from the horse dancing)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 12 August, 2016, 07:50:55 pm
Quote
Mark Cavendish is supposed to be the reserve for this evening’s cycling team pursuit, but has thrown his toys out of the pram and refused to come down and warm up, the Guardian understands. Cavendish, who will race the omnium on Sunday, has fallen out with the pursuit coach, Heiko Salzwedel, it seems. He has made it clear he wanted to ride team pursuit but was unable to keep up with the other guys, who effectively self-selected the squad without him. The 31-year-old Manxman really ought to have at least shown up, in case Bradley Wiggins, Steven Burke, Ed Clancy or Owain Doull fall suddenly ill and can’t race.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 12 August, 2016, 07:51:40 pm
Blimey
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 08:03:25 pm
Oi!  BBC!  The cycling is supposed to have started so WTF have you done with it >:(
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 12 August, 2016, 08:10:29 pm
It seems that golf is the new cycling.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 08:15:02 pm
Womens Team Sprint.  No BRITONS involved ergo not on the telly chiz.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: JonBuoy on 12 August, 2016, 08:21:22 pm
The BBC has it on the interweb and it seems to be the Olympic false start championship.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 08:28:44 pm
It's just appeared on 607 but I stuck around to see BRITAIN's Bryony Page get beaten into second in the trampolining by pocket-sized Canuckistani defending champ Rosie MacLennan :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Martin on 12 August, 2016, 08:34:02 pm
There's favorite and there's getting pummeled into the ground!!!

reminds me of this!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=monty+pyton+long+john+silver+fotball&view=detail&mid=64D9ECEA97406C45D27764D9ECEA97406C45D277&FORM=VIRE
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 12 August, 2016, 09:27:07 pm
Britain will face Australia for gold, having broken the world and Olympic record they set in London four years ago by more than a second, with a time of 3:50.570!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 09:28:02 pm
W00t! Major pwnage by Team Great BRITAIN :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 August, 2016, 10:17:09 pm
Winners of best hat competition : China.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 12 August, 2016, 10:22:48 pm
Winners of best hat competition : China.
The faces painted on the tops of the helmets?  They are gorgeous!

N suggested that C Froome get one done, so peeps stop thiinking he's staring at his stem.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 12 August, 2016, 10:40:01 pm
Crivens!  Two BRITONS has qualified for the final of the Gels Assisted Bouncing (aka trampolining, which I didn't know was even an Olympic sport until I pressed the button to get away from the horse dancing)

Apparently it been in since 2000. I had no idea either.

Next thread, most obscure Olympic sport you didn't know was there?

I'll start with poetry, back in the days of de Coubertin
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 10:53:26 pm
\o/

Hurrah!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 12 August, 2016, 10:53:51 pm
Bloody hell!  That wasn't easy to watch.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 August, 2016, 10:54:02 pm
Blimey. That was close.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 12 August, 2016, 10:59:27 pm
Shall we do our own commentary?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 August, 2016, 11:02:19 pm
I'm sure BRITAIN would have gone quicker if Sir Wiggo had bothered to shave instead of rocking up at the track looking like a ["Oik" - Ed.]
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 12 August, 2016, 11:03:20 pm
That was nail-biting even on the text version in Stockholm. Way to go, third wr in two days as well.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 12 August, 2016, 11:05:12 pm
OMgeh!

That was astounding.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 12 August, 2016, 11:06:23 pm
Wiggo's impression of Philip Hindes was outstanding  :P
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 12 August, 2016, 11:15:48 pm
On a similar subject did the British secret squirrel club think of putting the chain on the wrong side of the bike a la USA/Felt and decide it was pointless

Boardman strongly hinted yesterday that was the case.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 12 August, 2016, 11:16:52 pm
Currently third in the medal table. Wasn't expecting that.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 12 August, 2016, 11:47:57 pm
Dammit, that was a tense final on the track! Still, it's looking good so far...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 12 August, 2016, 11:48:11 pm
OMgeh!

That was astounding.

aaaaand breathe!

So disciplined. Trusted in their technique and training right to the line.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Vince on 12 August, 2016, 11:56:11 pm
I didn't think they would do it until Australia lost a man.

Currently third in the medal table. Wasn't expecting that.
Mrs Wunja has pointed out that that will change once we have to rely on the running around in circles people to do their jobs. Leave it to the people in the sitting down sports!
Title: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 13 August, 2016, 12:01:51 am
I was never in any doubt. Australia were always going to burn themselves out riding like that. Gave it a bloody good effort though, really made GB work for the gold. Incredible race.

(OK, when I say I was never in any doubt, I may be exaggerating slightly)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Basil on 13 August, 2016, 12:06:23 am


Next thread, most obscure Olympic sport you didn't know was there?

I'll start with poetry, back in the days of de Coubertin

Town Planning. 
I cannot  give dates, but I'm sure it was an Olympic event in the early 20th c.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: canny colin on 13 August, 2016, 12:35:16 am
"Chemistry is not an exact science" . Say organisers after closeing fart smeling pool . Must have  be lucky dip when I  used to check ph levels at the local lido .
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Peter on 13 August, 2016, 12:48:26 am
The most graceless Olympic loser ever?  Does sports psychology leave no room for manners?  Don't bother answering that!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37066215
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 13 August, 2016, 05:55:05 am
Nice gamesmanship from the US goalie there
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 13 August, 2016, 06:22:26 am
"Chemistry is not an exact science" . Say organisers after closeing fart smeling pool . Must have  be lucky dip when I  used to check ph levels at the local lido .

Send it in to Private Eye!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 13 August, 2016, 06:28:26 am
Yay! Barney 'Bobo' Wiggins won the Olympics!  ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 13 August, 2016, 06:55:01 am
Blimey, reading this report (http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37067229) on the Beeb makes Wiggins seem bipolar.

And personally I think it a shame that there often has to be a mention of.... The Kenyan. As if Wiggins is defined by that one relationship. Sounds to me that there'd be a few people that'd fall outside Wiggins's circle of friends.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 13 August, 2016, 07:00:55 am
The most graceless Olympic loser ever?  Does sports psychology leave no room for manners?  Don't bother answering that!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37066215

Must find out what social media this appalling specimen uses and get someone else to bombard it with Stuffs identified by #luser.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 13 August, 2016, 07:10:36 am
Pretty graceless it has to be said. Lacking Olympic spirit etc.

Praps it was sore loser, heat of the moment stuff for which she'll apologise.

I saw the game. The US goal was when a Swedish player was down. In fairness, they may not have seen it. The crowd did though and the US were being loudly boo-ed. Maybe that all played a part in Han Floats Hope Solo's remarks.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 13 August, 2016, 03:22:16 pm
Great race from the women's 8.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 13 August, 2016, 04:27:38 pm
With the heptathlon I've realised that the time difference is going to bite us; their last events yesterday were around 3am!

(and I presume a lot of the high-profile track-n-field events will be too e.g. the Boltathon.)

Luckily the cycling has been immune.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 13 August, 2016, 05:27:05 pm
The men's eight bossed that race.

Looks like another open topped bus celebration nearby...  ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 13 August, 2016, 05:32:12 pm
And Andy gets a guaranteed Silver...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 13 August, 2016, 07:49:06 pm
The current mens trampoline champion is called Dong Dong.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 13 August, 2016, 09:22:21 pm
Wr. Gold.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Vince on 13 August, 2016, 09:29:03 pm
What's with the fat bike forks on some of the British bikes?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 13 August, 2016, 09:31:20 pm

The secret squirrels reckon they give better air flow. They've used them for at least 4 years now...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 13 August, 2016, 09:42:55 pm
Show a replay!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 13 August, 2016, 11:34:00 pm
We missed the sprint semis on account of being watching on a Babbage engine. We saw other good stuff though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 13 August, 2016, 11:40:14 pm
I missed them because the Babbage-Engine I wasn't watching them on was making its third attempt to install the Anniversary Update to Windows 10, requiring the Great Hall's distascope to be used to watch the bloody thing like the proverbial watchy-bird,

So natch it worked this time.  Only another three machines to go.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 03:32:10 am
Woke up in the middle of the night to see Mo Farah's medal ceremony and J E-H in the 800m.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 August, 2016, 08:12:15 am
Mo Farah - tough guy award and bloody hell he can sprint at the end.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 14 August, 2016, 08:47:11 am
last mile was 4:03 apparently.

that's about my last k performance - he's 60% faster than me  :o
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 14 August, 2016, 09:06:46 am
We are currently in 3rd place behind China and USA in the medals table.

That's probably just a few hundredths of a second of a few centimetres from being ahead of China.  It's a hell of a turnaround from my childhood.

Does anyone remember the 1970's?  If anyone British won a Gold you were basically guaranteed an OBE and a place on TV chat shows for life.
(Adam Peaty will never be remembered in the same way David Wilkie is).

We were, to put it bluntly..shit at sport at the highest level.

It shows what you can do when you invest in sport and I'm sure the knock-on effect around the country is worth every penny*

* I predict many "Trampoline Fail" videos appearing on Youtube.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 August, 2016, 02:02:24 pm
If the Estonian triplets don't take a clean sweep of the women's marathon medals (which seems unlikely) then I'm rooting for the Koreans: Kim, Kim, and, er, Kim.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 August, 2016, 02:21:23 pm
Brendan Foster is like some sort of anti-Oracle.

"Mo Farah, quite happy sitting at the back there, he'll be quite content to stay there for a while longer" - Mo immediately starts overtaking people.
"Mo going really well there" - Mo falls over.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: red marley on 14 August, 2016, 02:26:19 pm
I've been enjoying watching the weight lifting after getting to see it in the flesh at 2012. The limited timing and weight 'bidding' makes for a great format.

Aurimas Didzbalis from Lithuania was particularly entertaining doing his best impression of a computer game baddie.

(http://staff.city.ac.uk/~jwo/acf/didzbalis2.jpg)

(http://staff.city.ac.uk/~jwo/acf/didzbalis1.jpg)

including a bonus somersault after getting bronze (1:11:48 into men's 94kg category). (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p042rs99/olympic-weightlifting-final-mens-94kg)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 14 August, 2016, 02:33:56 pm
What the heck was our young female weightlifter called? She was The Next Big Thing, and got some horrendous Twitter trolling?   :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 14 August, 2016, 03:58:37 pm
We are currently in 3rd place behind China and USA in the medals table.

That's probably just a few hundredths of a second of a few centimetres from being ahead of China.  It's a hell of a turnaround from my childhood.

Does anyone remember the 1970's?  If anyone British won a Gold you were basically guaranteed an OBE and a place on TV chat shows for life.
(Adam Peaty will never be remembered in the same way David Wilkie is).

We were, to put it bluntly..shit at sport at the highest level.

It shows what you can do when you invest in sport and I'm sure the knock-on effect around the country is worth every penny*

* I predict many "Trampoline Fail" videos appearing on Youtube.

That question was raised in 2012. One answer was that we had become the new East Germany.
http://sabotagetimes.com/football/team-gb-are-the-new-east-germany

Our results in rowing and velodrome cycling leant on some East German expertise in Jürgen Gröbler and Heiko Salzwedel
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 August, 2016, 04:17:28 pm
What the heck was our young female weightlifter called? She was The Next Big Thing, and got some horrendous Twitter trolling?   :facepalm:
Rebekah Tiler?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 14 August, 2016, 04:21:07 pm
I'm liking the O'Donovan brothers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlO7zr7woHc
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 14 August, 2016, 04:29:58 pm
What the heck was our young female weightlifter called? She was The Next Big Thing, and got some horrendous Twitter trolling?   :facepalm:
Rebekah Tiler?
No, but the magic of google led me to ...Zoe Smith!

it turns out she is injured, so rebekah got GB's only weightlifting slot.  Zoe's a real character, she seemed destined for Big Things. Good luck to them both.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 06:33:08 pm
Max Whitlock gets the Floor Gold!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 14 August, 2016, 06:50:16 pm
What the heck was our young female weightlifter called? She was The Next Big Thing, and got some horrendous Twitter trolling?   :facepalm:
Rebekah Tiler?
No, but the magic of google led me to ...Zoe Smith!

it turns out she is injured, so rebekah got GB's only weightlifting slot.  Zoe's a real character, she seemed destined for Big Things. Good luck to them both.
[/quote
Ah, Zoe, I was wondering why she wasn't there.

The pocket powerhouse.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 14 August, 2016, 06:52:44 pm
Max Whitlock gets the Floor Gold!!

The silver medalist seems very upset about it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: benborp on 14 August, 2016, 07:11:04 pm
How many medals are the Chinese in contention for this evening? Isn't there a fair chance Great Britain could go to second spot in the medals table tonight? We have one guaranteed gold to come and not to pick up two more would be a disappointment.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 07:48:23 pm
Mr Rose is on his way to Gold

and gets it!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 14 August, 2016, 07:53:33 pm
Mr Rose is on his way to Gold

and gets it!

That was extremely tense all afternoon!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 08:02:55 pm
Indeed!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 08:13:20 pm
erm... two more medals on the way in the equestrian pommel.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mcshroom on 14 August, 2016, 08:19:40 pm
Now GB are second in the medal table! This seems weird
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 14 August, 2016, 08:22:27 pm
Don't worry there is still a week to go, so that feeling will soon be over :)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Vince on 14 August, 2016, 09:13:30 pm
Come on anyone!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 August, 2016, 09:17:45 pm
Grace Reid just came 8th in the women's 3m springboard diving final. She was 11th in the semi-final, so that was a big improvement for her. I know it's nowhere near a medal level, but it's a great result for her.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 14 August, 2016, 09:22:53 pm
remember we have another guaranteed gold and silver on the track, individual sprint
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 14 August, 2016, 09:29:57 pm
Now GB are second in the medal table! This seems weird

Don't worry there is still a week to go, so that feeling will soon be over :)

Back down to third :)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 14 August, 2016, 09:43:03 pm
The Hong Kong women's skin suits have a large stylised flower printed on them, with rounded petals. Trouble is they land right on the bosom of Lee Wai Sze and look like crudely drawn boobs.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 14 August, 2016, 09:57:57 pm
Gold and Silver in cycling fast around on a track for the mens and a OR for the ladies. 
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 14 August, 2016, 10:07:18 pm
erm... GB still second just now
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 August, 2016, 10:08:51 pm
If it's not "Arise Sir Jason" in the New Year Honours it'll be time to storm the (Winter) Palace.

Is it permitted to have a little LOL @ A Meares getting pwned by the indescribably ancient S Krupeckaite?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 14 August, 2016, 10:08:56 pm
erm... GB still second just now
that is because someone won after I posted, they need to chill these sportballpersons :)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 14 August, 2016, 10:42:14 pm
Absolutely cracking ride from  Cav in the omnium pursuit.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 14 August, 2016, 10:53:53 pm
10 Team GB:Oh hai! We are teh BRITONS' velodromatic team and we are full of teh win!
20 Teh ROTW:Pi55! Here we go again...
30 GOTO 10

Is it permitted to have a little LOL @ A Meares getting pwned by the indescribably ancient S Krupeckaite?

Only a waffer thin LOL?  :demon:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: David Martin on 14 August, 2016, 11:04:39 pm
That Cav bloke wasn't far off the times for the pursuit, was he.. On to my favourite event, the de'il.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Vince on 14 August, 2016, 11:09:47 pm
But they've switched to tennis. Pah!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 14 August, 2016, 11:34:56 pm
Cav, u plonker!  With most of the other contenders gaily shooting themselves in the toeses and you go and do something daft like that :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 14 August, 2016, 11:48:48 pm
Cav, u plonker!  With most of the other contenders gaily shooting themselves in the toeses and you go and do something daft like that :facepalm:

Didn't have much choice. He'd let himself get boxed in and was going to get knocked out anyway.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 12:20:58 am
He would have made it that time and then sort himself out. Plonker!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 15 August, 2016, 01:09:44 am
This Del Potro guy has potential.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 01:26:56 am
I was thinking it was a shame he has missed so much then his antics started then I wanted to Murray to win for definite. Loved the fan getting booted out!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 15 August, 2016, 01:35:44 am
Loved the fan getting booted out!!
He'd better hope Andy's mum doesn't catch up with him!

Well done Andy. Fantastic win in a gruelling match.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 15 August, 2016, 02:11:31 am
Yes, that was some battle. Well done Ansy
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 15 August, 2016, 07:46:43 am
If it's not "Arise Sir Jason" in the New Year Honours it'll be time to storm the (Winter) Palace.


And Dame Laura Trott
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 15 August, 2016, 07:48:21 am
I *really* don't like giving these titles to athletes still competing in the thick of it.

It's just weird.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: T42 on 15 August, 2016, 07:49:24 am
Usain Bolt I've heard of, but if I'd had to guess I would have said that Justin Gatlin was a golfer. It's that kind of name.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 15 August, 2016, 11:09:26 am
Loved the fan getting booted out!!
He'd better hope Andy's mum doesn't catch up with him!

Well done Andy. Fantastic win in a gruelling match.

He was in tears at the end as he realised, with a mixture of joy and relief, that he was still British and not Scottish.  At least until Wimbledon next year (When the threat of being "The plucky Scot" looms large again).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 15 August, 2016, 11:35:58 am
India don't have any medals.

Is that a cultural thing? Don't they invest in sport?

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 15 August, 2016, 11:44:40 am
India have hopes of medals in the wrestling.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/rio-2016-olympics/india-in-olympics-2016/wrestling/Rio-Olympics-Narsingh-eyes-fairytale-climax-Yogeshwar-keen-to-sign-off-on-high/articleshow/53696983.cms

Wrestling is the only sport to have an amateur stipulation. Boxing allowed pros at a late stage, but all three pros are out early, as the amateur sport is very different.
We have no wrestlers competing at Rio, but do have some good amateur boxers.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 15 August, 2016, 11:53:58 am
India don't have any medals.

Is that a cultural thing? Don't they invest in sport?

Cricket is the most commonly played and watched sport in India (see IPL) and at present that doesn't have Olympic status. Much of the financial and commercial investment in sport seems to go into Cricket at the cost of diversity into other sports.

A problem known to the British before lottery funding and an assumption kids only played football.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 12:26:03 pm
There was a bbc report on this. Most Indian elders are traditional so wants their sons to be doctors/lawyers and females to be dutiful wives. Fucking backwards if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 August, 2016, 01:00:43 pm
There was a bbc report on this. Most Indian elders are traditional so wants their sons to be doctors/lawyers and females to be dutiful wives. Fucking backwards if you ask me.

How do you do that?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 15 August, 2016, 01:16:19 pm
There was a bbc report on this. Most Indian elders are traditional so wants their sons to be doctors/lawyers and females to be dutiful wives. Fucking backwards if you ask me.

How do you do that?

G-N-I-K-C-U-F ...easy

On a different theme.  Max Whitlock.  Extraordinary !!!

2 Individual Golds in Gymnastics is as amazing as China winning the Dressage or Russa winning a "Fair play" award.

It may be just me projecting stereotypes but the Chinese and Russian gymnasts always look like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders.
There seems to be almost no joy about it.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 15 August, 2016, 01:25:29 pm
Oopsie...  :facepalm:

Quote
Olympics officials on Saturday gave what they said was a definitive explanation why the water in two competition pools turned green this week. Someone, the officials said, mistakenly added 160 liters of hydrogen peroxide on Aug. 5, neutralizing the chlorine and allowing the growth of “organic compounds” that might have included algae.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/sports/olympics/rio-schedule-michael-phelps-medals.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 August, 2016, 01:36:51 pm
I'd say that by and large Indians are not interested in sport. They enjoy watching cricket of course and also hockey, and kids play these and also football, but not many adults play any sports. Unless you consider yoga a sport of course but I'm not sure most Indians would. And as pointed out there's a big gender divide. Not that women don't exercise, but their exercise tends to consist of walking round a small park at the speed of a pregnant cow. Actually that's true for men too. The only indigenous Indian sport I'm aware of is kabaddi, a sort of tag (I'm sure there are others though). Beyond gender there's a big caste/class/wealth thing; cricket is a high-caste sport as is hockey, football is low caste. Cycling is high caste, obviously, cos decent bikes are expensive.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 August, 2016, 02:13:51 pm
The following are of some interest. I have no idea how genuine they are.

Quote
Here are the top nine comments made by sports commentators during the Olympics that they would like to take back:
1. Weightlifting commentator: "This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria . I saw her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing."
2. Dressage commentator: "This is really a lovely horse and I speak from personal experience since I once mounted her mother."
3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: "I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father."
4. Boxing Analyst: "Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths in boxing, but none of them really that serious."
5. Softball announcer: "If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again."
6. Basketball analyst: "He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces."
7. At the rowing medal ceremony: "Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew."
8. Soccer commentator: "Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've got eleven Dicks on the field."
9. Tennis commentator: "One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them . . . Oh my God, what have I just said?"
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 15 August, 2016, 02:19:40 pm
It may be just me projecting stereotypes but the Chinese and Russian gymnasts always look like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders.
There seems to be almost no joy about it.

Because their families will be on a one way trip to the gulag if they don't win?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 15 August, 2016, 03:08:46 pm
Cav interrupting Jill 'n Chris just now was pretty amusing. They looked very nervous. He was acting like he was pissed!    I was sure he was going to tell Chris he loved him...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 03:08:53 pm
It may be just me projecting stereotypes but the Chinese and Russian gymnasts always look like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders.
There seems to be almost no joy about it.

Because their families will be on a one way trip to the gulag if they don't win?

I feel sorry for the Chinese coaches.... They always look really worried when their star pupils fail. Like they know they and their families will be disappeared when they return.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 15 August, 2016, 03:09:05 pm
Not too bad a TT from Cav, still sitting thrid.

And Laura Trott gets second in the scratch race   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 15 August, 2016, 05:34:56 pm
A horse dancing Gold. Still 2nd in the table  ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 15 August, 2016, 08:04:02 pm
I am surprised and pleased to note that the Whitakers are still making horses jump over pretend fences. My mum used to get manure for her garden from their stables and once she walked across a concrete path there without realising it had only just been laid. She sank into it and they had to pull her out.

My grandad always used to get wound up by John Whitaker's showjumping attire, which he said looked like it had been borrowed from a bigger boy.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 August, 2016, 08:21:36 pm
Full marks to Andy Murray for correcting John Inverdale.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/john-inverdale-corrected-by-andy-murray-over-tennis-comment_uk_57b19756e4b01f97d8f3003e?

I seem to remember posting something about Inverdale's crass commentary style some months (or possible more) ago, suggesting that he should lose his job because of it. I can't remember the issue now, but he doesn't get any better.

He gives the very strong impression that he believes that women's sport just isn't worth bothering with.

Edit: this was it. https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=73612.msg1520050#msg1520050
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 15 August, 2016, 08:24:22 pm
Good grief, whatever gear was Cav pushing!  :o. His cadence was visibly lower than Viviani's.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 August, 2016, 08:34:57 pm
I'd love to know what Cav was saying to make Laura Trott laugh like that, even though TV's Guy Martin did describe her as "the world's giggliest girl".
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 15 August, 2016, 09:03:51 pm
What colour skin suits are the Danes wearing? TV's C Boardman says they're red, but my colour blind eyes say otherwise.  Their bikes and hats are red, but the suits are different.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 August, 2016, 09:19:07 pm
They look a slightly washed-out purply-red to my rheumy eyes.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 15 August, 2016, 09:19:35 pm
I actually feel quite sorry for Sharakhova, but well done Laura Trott!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 August, 2016, 09:23:41 pm
Isn't she wonderful?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 15 August, 2016, 09:48:06 pm
Oh blimey Cav, what happened there?   :'(
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 August, 2016, 10:18:47 pm
Hansen would have walked that if he hadn't buggered up so badly in the elimination race.
Title: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 10:42:21 pm
Cavendish could have won gold if he hasn't buggered up the Elimination race.

Trott was unbeatable though!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 15 August, 2016, 10:44:05 pm
In contrast:

L Trott:O hai! I am L Trott and I am made ov teh Win! Take that, FOREIGNS!
FOREIGNS:P155!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 August, 2016, 10:51:12 pm
Really like how Cav still a miserable sod! :D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 August, 2016, 11:57:25 pm
Wonderful performance by Trott.

I would rather like her to stoke me to Dunwich next year. Could be an easy ride...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TimC on 15 August, 2016, 11:59:01 pm
I have thoroughly enjoyed the last couple of days! The horse-dancing was magical (no, it really was!), and I really enjoyed the teamwork between horse and rider. The Omnimiumnims have provided excellent, if more-than-slightly-confusing entertainment; Cav's attempt to assassinate his major competitors was appreciated, though unsuccessful. And Laura Trott? Does she miniaturise that Jason Kenny bloke and add his power to what might be considered reasonable for an under-developed 12-yo girl? I mean, she is tiny, yet seems to have the power and endurance of teh Flying Scotsman. Just wow. Didn't see the other flying Scotsman do his thing on the tennis court, but I hear it was orsum. I did watch Justin Rose comprehensively demonstrate why golf absolutely deserves its place in the Olympics. Missed the gymnastix too, but I'llget it on catch up. Then there's sailing, and rowing, and boxing, and stuffs of all sorts. It seems we Britons can actually do this sport stuff! Marvellous!

Quite brings a tear to the eye!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 August, 2016, 12:01:05 am
The Omnimiumnims...

Weren't they special talking horses?

Also, according to Wiki, Trott is 1.63 metres in height, which is only a couple of inches shorter than Mrs. Wow. 5' 4" or so.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TimC on 16 August, 2016, 12:06:52 am
As someone of not enormous stature (in height, at least), I reserve the right to call anyone shorter than me tiny.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 16 August, 2016, 12:12:33 am
The Omnimiumnims...

Weren't they special talking horses?

As opposed to the Omnomnomnium, which is an event for those sportsmen and women who have finished their competitive involvement at the Games:

http://www.modicanews.com/sawan-serasinghe-celebrates-the-end-of-his-olympic-journey-with-mcdonalds-feast/
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 12:43:47 am
I believe a Mr G Thomas of Waleshire mentioned a visit to The Scottish Restaurant having taken place between the road race and the time trial, presumably orchestrated by Messrs A Yates, I Stannard and S Cummings.

Ms L Trott is a positive giant when compared with that USAnian gymnast.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 16 August, 2016, 06:36:01 am
Wonderful performance by Trott.

I would rather like her to stoke me to Dunwich

Is that a euphemism?  :o [waits for RogerZ to quote the Urban Dictionary]
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 16 August, 2016, 09:57:09 am
Wonderful performance by Trott.

I would rather like her to stoke me to Dunwich

Is that a euphemism?  :o [waits for RogerZ to quote the Urban Dictionary]

"Stoke me a Clipper"
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 02:36:57 pm
Poor show, C Skinner.  'tis the repechage for you, m'laddo.

Edit: J Kenny pwns his heat :thumbsup:

Edit 2: Both BRITONS through to the semis of the women's sprint.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 16 August, 2016, 04:07:04 pm
A rare mistake from Team GB in cycling means Skinner is OOT!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 16 August, 2016, 04:21:58 pm
So, 7 golds?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 16 August, 2016, 06:12:24 pm
So, 7 golds?

6 with high confidence (Kierin and Omnomnium), but I wouldn't want to bet against Ligtlee in the sprint...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 16 August, 2016, 06:30:50 pm
A rare mistake from Team GB in cycling means "The plucky Scot" Skinner is OOT!!

FTFY
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 07:50:10 pm
Awaiting with interest the reaction of the captain of the Brazilian women's foopball team after being put out by Sweden on penalties :demon:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 16 August, 2016, 07:53:45 pm
We are currently in 3rd place behind China and USA in the medals table.

That's probably just a few hundredths of a second of a few centimetres from being ahead of China.  It's a hell of a turnaround from my childhood.

Does anyone remember the 1970's?  If anyone British won a Gold you were basically guaranteed an OBE and a place on TV chat shows for life.
(Adam Peaty will never be remembered in the same way David Wilkie is).

We were, to put it bluntly..shit at sport at the highest level.

It shows what you can do when you invest in sport and I'm sure the knock-on effect around the country is worth every penny*

* I predict many "Trampoline Fail" videos appearing on Youtube.

I was trying to remember the archer who won a bronze at the 1992 Olympics, as the BBC's coverage of it seemed to be endless at the time. Any British success, even the prospect of a medal, was shown on the telly. It was enthralling, by the way.

After Googling, he's called Simon Terry - not only was he totally self-funded, but he was on the dole at the time, and had his benefits stopped as he wasn't available for work while competing ;D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/Team-GB/competitors/8662213/Simon-Terry-Team-GB-London-2012-Olympics.html

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=yOmzCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT132&lpg=PT132&dq=simon+terry+bronze+medal&source=bl&ots=-ZIDk2Y7qZ&sig=tNK8uam8PTumHfH-dompbfQD7YM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt7pLey8bOAhUpKsAKHZSuA8E4FBDoAQg3MAU#v=onepage&q=simon%20terry%20bronze%20medal&f=false
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 08:02:10 pm
Now then, the BBC, when I press the button for "LIVE CYCLING" then I expect live cycling, not gymnastics or gels in bikinis.  Sort it out u muppets!

In the meantime BRITAIN's G Scott has won a gold wossname in some variety of yotting.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 16 August, 2016, 08:21:15 pm
Exactly my thought larrington
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 16 August, 2016, 08:41:48 pm
So, 7 golds?

6 with high confidence (Kierin and Omnomnium), but I wouldn't want to bet against Ligtlee in the sprint...

On second thoughts...  ;D

That was most impressive by Becky James.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 16 August, 2016, 08:57:15 pm
Aren't there usually more people in the Keirin?  Or am I thinking of the omnomnium?  Not that I understand either event.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 16 August, 2016, 09:01:30 pm
Aren't there usually more people in the Keirin?  Or am I thinking of the omnomnium?  Not that I understand either event.
TV's C Boardman says max of seven in the keirin. The omnium is 6 different events (think pentathlon plus one, on bikes). The last event is the points race, which has all the competitors at once and is v. confusing, v. tactical and v. entertaining.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 16 August, 2016, 09:02:46 pm
Which is the one where they have to tig each other?  And there are loads of them?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 16 August, 2016, 09:07:35 pm
Which is the one where they have to tig each other?  And there are loads of them?
Tig is The Madison, which isn't in the Olympics (it might have been in 2012). Wiggo and  Cav won it at the World's in London in March this year.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ruthie on 16 August, 2016, 09:09:55 pm
Aaaahhhhhh!  Thanks Tim  :D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 09:42:10 pm
And that, M Cavendish, is how you're supposed to ride an omnium :demon:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 16 August, 2016, 09:48:55 pm
Trotty got it now it is Becky turn on the track.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 16 August, 2016, 09:49:34 pm
wasn't that impressive in the omnomnium, not that I understood it
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 16 August, 2016, 10:14:45 pm
Nice bike throwing by Marchant!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 10:23:56 pm
Good show from Marchant the Wonder Bike.  If only Vogel's saddle had snapped off five seconds earlier.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 16 August, 2016, 10:25:02 pm
Well done Becky and Kathy some good biking there.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 August, 2016, 10:48:28 pm
Oh bugger.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 10:50:27 pm
FFS!  I need these fingernails!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mcshroom on 16 August, 2016, 10:51:54 pm
And we all go again. Phew!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 16 August, 2016, 10:52:08 pm
Right, here we go, again
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 16 August, 2016, 10:54:41 pm
Argh!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 16 August, 2016, 10:54:53 pm
Fuck sake!!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 August, 2016, 10:55:05 pm
AGAIN?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 16 August, 2016, 10:55:21 pm
again FFS.

I need another drink
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 10:56:16 pm
WTF!  At this rate they'll end up giving the gold medal to the derny rider :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: eck on 16 August, 2016, 10:56:38 pm
again FFS.

I need another drink

I've none left.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mcshroom on 16 August, 2016, 11:01:51 pm
Take 3 :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 August, 2016, 11:04:10 pm
I hope there's enough electrons in that Derny. I've got range anxiety.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 16 August, 2016, 11:04:28 pm
thought he'd screwed that up for a moment  :)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 August, 2016, 11:04:40 pm
Fuck yeah :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Thor on 16 August, 2016, 11:05:05 pm
That was superb!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 16 August, 2016, 11:17:35 pm
Kenny should be at the top of that medal list as all of the rest in the top 6 or 7 are "Sir...". They are behind him alphabetically!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Tim Hall on 16 August, 2016, 11:28:57 pm
Fuck yeah :thumbsup:

Wot M. Le Maire said.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 16 August, 2016, 11:29:21 pm
What the hell!

Wow.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 16 August, 2016, 11:34:51 pm
Jack Laugher just got a silver medal for jumping into water.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: jsabine on 16 August, 2016, 11:39:39 pm
Apparently if the Trott-Kenny household was a country, it would currently lie 13th in the medal table, ahead of for eg Spain and Brazil.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mike on 16 August, 2016, 11:41:05 pm
friend is drinking in rio with steve redgrave.  He's apparently complaining about how easy cycling is :D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 12:33:38 am
What an astonishing Games it has been, and there are still another five days of competition left!  :o :D :thumbsup: 8) :smug:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2016, 12:38:24 am
Every member of the GB Cycling team got a medal  :o
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 12:52:54 am
ITYM:

Every member of the GB Track Cycling team got a medal  :o


Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2016, 01:20:25 am
Ah yes  :P
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 August, 2016, 05:03:27 am
Meanwhile, teh FOREIGNS who got pwned are scratching their heads and asking how come Team GB were made almost entirely of industrial-strength Win when they've been pretty shit at other events.  Natch certain Sun tabloid newspapers Express have decided that Mail this is jealous FOREIGNS accusing Noble BRITONS of CHEATING ::-)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mike on 17 August, 2016, 06:34:26 am
and you can sort of understand why:

GB - have 11 medals, 6 of them gold
Dutch, Germans are next on the table with 1 gold + one other medal
China and Italy are next with just 1 gold each

we've won 6 of the 10 golds.   If china or russia had done that, I'm sure we'd be suspicious too.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 August, 2016, 07:56:28 am
Yes, but you'd never catch a BRITON being so dashed unsportsmanlike.  Well, except TV's Super D Millar, obv.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 17 August, 2016, 08:04:17 am
ITYM:

Every member of the GB Track Cycling team got a medal  :o

And there's still BMX and mountains biking to go  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Riggers on 17 August, 2016, 08:23:40 am
Forget Jason Kenny and yer Laura Trotters. Gold goes to me this morning . . . 50 pedal strokes to get to work.

True I was taking advantage of the downhill WITH the wind behind me, but well within the UCI permitted limits.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 August, 2016, 10:03:11 am
You've got a big kitchen!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrij on 17 August, 2016, 10:05:25 am
Forget Jason Kenny and yer Laura Trotters. Gold goes to me this morning . . . 50 pedal strokes to get to work.

True I was taking advantage of the downhill WITH the wind behind me, but well within the UCI permitted limits.

I don't think any of my usual routes into town have fewer than 50 traffic lights.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Riggers on 17 August, 2016, 10:37:54 am
Kneel before me earthlings!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2016, 10:49:18 am
How many earthlings have you got?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 August, 2016, 10:52:20 am
He's leading the whole field of earthlings.
(http://media.tractorsupply.com/is/image/TractorSupplyCompany/growing_potatoes_for_year_round_harvest_1?$360$)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Hot Flatus on 17 August, 2016, 10:54:17 am
and you can sort of understand why:

GB - have 11 medals, 6 of them gold
Dutch, Germans are next on the table with 1 gold + one other medal
China and Italy are next with just 1 gold each

we've won 6 of the 10 golds.   If china or russia had done that, I'm sure we'd be suspicious too.

It's really the track cycling that is causing the controversy, and   partly because the GB are so totally dominant, but also because they only dominate at the Olympics and are relatively lacklustre at the intervening Worlds.

Who knows. I wouldn't bet any money on it being down to harder work and better planning , however.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 17 August, 2016, 10:57:31 am
I for one welcome our new pipe-smoking overlord.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Riggers on 17 August, 2016, 11:08:10 am
Thank you Eccentrers. YOU shall sit on my right hand.

Quite nerve-wracking watching Jason Kenny's race, specially when the German chap shot beyond the gurney (sp?). Spat m'pipe out, with a "What the . . . !!?"
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 11:14:05 am
ITYM:

Every member of the GB Track Cycling team got a medal  :o

And there's still BMX and mountains biking to go  :thumbsup:

Only with the men - Liam Philips has a chance of a medal in BMX, but I don't think Grant Ferguson will get anywhere near the podium in the XC MTB.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 17 August, 2016, 11:20:36 am
I predict Peter Sagan winning all of the above.


(this is slightly less likely to happen than Australian/French sportsmen being poor losers)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 11:51:02 am
I think that in XC at an international level, you get a starting grid position based on previous form/ranking points, which has usually worked against British XC riders in the past, so Sagan will likely have to start near the back. TBH, the likely winner is going to be from those who have been dominating XC since the last Olympics, making Julien Absalon and Nino Schurter the hot tips for men's XC gold.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 17 August, 2016, 12:48:08 pm
It's really the track cycling that is causing the controversy, and   partly because the GB are so totally dominant, but also because they only dominate at the Olympics and are relatively lacklustre at the intervening Worlds.

Who knows. I wouldn't bet any money on it being down to harder work and better planning , however.

Relatively lacklustre by their own standards, perhaps. Since the last Olympics, they have come top of the medals table in 2013 and again this year, and finished 4th overall in 2014. It's only 2015 that really stands out as an anomaly, with just three medals, none of them gold.

I don't really follow track cycling so I have no idea why they did so badly in Cali.

I do know that they are totally focused on the Olympics though, as that is what their funding depends on. The Worlds are relatively unimportant so maybe they just don't try as hard.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Dibdib on 17 August, 2016, 12:56:33 pm
I do know that they are totally focused on the Olympics though, as that is what their funding depends on. The Worlds are relatively unimportant so maybe they just don't try as hard.

That's what Jo Rowsell-Shand was saying on TV last night - that she can see why some of their competitors might find it frustrating to do comparatively well against GB at Worlds, etc and then see GB peak at the Olympics - because that's really their only big focus and all the work and investment is built around that four year cycle.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 17 August, 2016, 01:04:03 pm
There are also more events and therefore more medals available at the Worlds but GB don't enter them if they aren't Olympic events (individual persuit and Madison for example) so the performances of other nations are ever so slightly skewed by that.

The rest of it comes down to peaking once in an Olympic year and not twice which the Aussies and others have attempted to do. If they followed a similar pattern then the Worlds would be a bit of a dead loss during Olympic year as no-one would be fit enough for them (or interested).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 01:13:15 pm
There may also be a side order of deliberately not showing one's true pace at the World's and the World Cup events so as to lull the opposition in to a false sense of security.

There's a great anecdote that James Cracknell was relating on the radio the other day - in the last Worlds before an Olympics the GB rowing four went off at World Record pace and in the boat Cracknell was urging the crew to up the pace and get the record, but Redgrave was calling the shots and held them steady. They didn't get the record, and only beat the Italians by half a second. Cracknell and Redgrave then an argument about it. Cracknell said he was shut up when Redgrave said "The Italians think they only have to improve by half a second, we know they need to improve by five".
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 17 August, 2016, 01:13:44 pm
Boardman claimed that the GB team kept any new tech back for the Olympics, while the others used it at the Worlds.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Dibdib on 17 August, 2016, 01:16:02 pm
I can understand why it might put some people's noses out of joint though, in the same way that some people get sniffy about Sky massively over-prioritising the Tour GC competition each year and then building everything else around that.

They're not the first and won't be the last (it seemed to be a strategy for Little Schleck in his day too) but I guess some people (rightly or wrongly)  find it a bit disrespectful to the sport.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 17 August, 2016, 01:16:45 pm
Boardman claimed that the GB team kept any new tech back for the Olympics, while the others used it at the Worlds.
... and/or they might test some new parts at each champs, but only bolt the whole integrated package together every 4 years.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: red marley on 17 August, 2016, 01:34:03 pm
One of the consequences of the GB performance might be to encourage other countries to adopt the somewhat ruthless 'reward success' approach to funding based on Olympic medals. I have mixed feelings about this in that it is joyous to watch medal after medal for Team GB, but on the other hand history is being written by the winners here. These successes are in part built on the backs of all those other un(der)funded sports that have so far not been able to deliver at the Olympics.

I note also that in many of the interviews with the GB Olympic cyclists they have mentioned 'living in each others' pockets' in Manchester for the last year. How common in other sports and with other nations is it to billet the team together for so long?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2016, 01:57:41 pm
I note also that in many of the interviews with the GB Olympic cyclists they have mentioned 'living in each others' pockets' in Manchester for the last year. How common in other sports and with other nations is it to billet the team together for so long?
Apparently footballers often share the same granny.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 August, 2016, 02:01:51 pm
You know what I'm really happy about?

That obnoxious git sutton is gone and we are winning, with a happy smiling team.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 17 August, 2016, 02:36:15 pm
some people get sniffy about Sky massively over-prioritising the Tour

Complaining about pro cycling teams focusing on the Tour is like complaining about international football teams focusing on the World Cup. Like, duh! Thing is, they came into the sport to win the Tour and cleverly avoided spreading themselves too thin. They've gradually built up and expanded their horizons and even won a Monument this year (LBL, plus second in PR and MSR).

I don't know how the Olympics track cycling stands in comparison to the Worlds, but there's far more exposure for the Olympics - like the Tour, it's an event that transcends the sport and attracts viewers far and wide beyond the usual minority audience. When you're funding your participation with public money, it makes sense to give the public some return on their investment. GB involvement in gymnastics appears to be developing along similar lines.

Same with the road cycling really - as a follower of pro cycling, I think there are far more important and interesting races than the Olympics, but apparently even Greg Van Avermaet rates the Olympics as the biggest win of his career. It was Nibali's big target this year too, and you can see why it might have been more rewarding in many ways for him to win the Olympics RR than Il Lombardia or even the Giro.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 17 August, 2016, 02:42:32 pm
You know what I'm really happy about?

That obnoxious git sutton is gone and we are winning, with a happy smiling team.

They replaced the stick with a carrot*


*Now they hit them with a carrot.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Dibdib on 17 August, 2016, 02:44:21 pm
Complaining about pro cycling teams focusing on the Tour is like complaining about international football teams focusing on the World Cup. Like, duh!

Absolutely, but that doesn't stop complainers complaining ;)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 02:50:36 pm
...as a follower of pro cycling, I think there are far more important and interesting races than the Olympics, but apparently even Greg Van Avermaet rates the Olympics as the biggest win of his career. It was Nibali's big target this year too, and you can see why it might have been more rewarding in many ways for him to win the Olympics RR than Il Lombardia or even the Giro.

Well, it's not like you can get many chances in the average duration of a sporting career to go to the Olympics, never mind win a medal of any colour - if you come up short in a Classics race or in a Grand Tour, there's always next year/the next stage...
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 17 August, 2016, 03:40:56 pm
Caster Semenya has abnormally high levels of Testosterone which allows her an unfair advantage (according to many people).

They say such levels "make her the equivalent of a man".

But, if she's a woman, even with high levels of Testosterone, that's an advantage just like Simone Biles (the Gymnast) being 4'8" tall or Serena Williams having the build she has.

Afro-Caribbean people are inclined to build lots of fast-twitch muscle around the Glutes.  That is a huge advantage when it comes down to covering short distances bloody quickly.

Isn't it a case of just saying she's gifted in terms of athletic ability?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 August, 2016, 05:25:05 pm
It's interesting that in the two traditional big money, high exposure, sports, by which I mean tennis and golf, that are in the olympics, it seems to me that Murray and Rose both value their olympic golds very highly compared to their monetary worth. Maybe they are the exception, I don't know. How many of the other leading players in those two sports took part? Djokovic did, and Nadal, so that's 3 out of the world top 4 in tennis. I don't know anything about golf, as I deliberately avoid it (I didn't during the olympics though) and have heard of precious few of the players involved.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 17 August, 2016, 05:27:15 pm
Isn't it a case of just saying she's gifted in terms of athletic ability?

Depends on the origin of the gift.

Quote
Afro-Caribbean people are inclined to build lots of fast-twitch muscle around the Glutes.

Racial stereotyping nonsense. That one was debunked a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 05:51:17 pm
The article linked below is quite lengthy, but worth a read. It includes an interview with a transgender athlete and scientist who argues that intersex athletes should not be allowed to compete, unrestricted*, against testosterone-deficient athletes** (otherwise known as women).

http://sportsscientists.com/2016/05/hyperandrogenism-women-vs-women-vs-men-sport-qa-joanna-harper/

* After the furore that kicked off when she won the 800m in Berlin in 2009, Semenya (and other intersex athletes) was only allowed to compete if she took medication to limit her testosterone levels to below a certain level. The Indian sprinter Dutee Chand took a case to the CAS, and managed to get this restriction lifted.

** As a rule of thumb, men have a 10-12% performance advantage over women, which is why there are separate categories for sporting events. For example, without providing protected categories for women, they wouldn't get a look-in at the Olympics outside of the equestrian and sailing events.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 August, 2016, 06:27:38 pm
As a rule of thumb, men have a 10-12% performance advantage over women, which is why there are separate categories for sporting events. For example, without providing protected categories for women, they wouldn't get a look-in at the Olympics outside of the equestrian and sailing events.

I'd have thought they might be on a par in shooting and archery too, but I CBA to check.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, Olympic pole vault penis claim denied by Japan athlete Hiroki Ogita (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37103648).  Apparently there is no truth in the story that his failure to proceed to the next round was down to his colossal tool getting in the way chiz.

BRITAIN are about to cop another gold in some variety of yatching to which one can but shout "Hurrah!" and, optionally, throw one's hat in the air.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 17 August, 2016, 07:13:58 pm
As a rule of thumb, men have a 10-12% performance advantage over women, which is why there are separate categories for sporting events. For example, without providing protected categories for women, they wouldn't get a look-in at the Olympics outside of the equestrian and sailing events.

I'd have thought they might be on a par in shooting and archery too, but I CBA to check.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, Olympic pole vault penis claim denied by Japan athlete Hiroki Ogita (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37103648).  Apparently there is no truth in the story that his failure to proceed to the next round was down to his colossal tool getting in the way chiz.


BRITAIN are about to cop another gold in some variety of yatching to which one can but shout "Hurrah!" and, optionally, throw one's hat in the air.

In ultra endurance events not necessarily so, some of the ridiculous ultra marathons are reasonably regularly won by women. 

Not sure if RAAM or any of the other non-stop cycling events have as well? 

Wasn't the first person to swim cuba to florida female?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 17 August, 2016, 07:40:02 pm
Record average speed for women in RAAM is well down on the men's.  The official website is a horrible mess so finding out whether a woman has ever won outright is too difficult for someone who hasn't had his dinner yet but the Wikinaccurate article doesn't mention it ever happening.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 17 August, 2016, 08:50:01 pm
Do the BMX-ists wear clippy pedals and shoes? Just watched some and it looked like they were.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mcshroom on 17 August, 2016, 09:07:33 pm
Racing ones do yes
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Legs on 17 August, 2016, 09:50:46 pm
Now, I know less than nothing about boxing but there was so much talk of that Conlan chap this morning that I watched a little precis of last night's fight.  Two things:
1)  His opponent was a dead ringer for Lord Voldemort, but twice as scary.
2)  The judges must either have pressed the wrong buttons, or been very generously paid off.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 August, 2016, 09:54:39 pm
Brazil v Germany in the fupbol final. That gives Brazil a chance for some revenge from 2 years ago.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 17 August, 2016, 10:10:04 pm
It's interesting that in the two traditional big money, high exposure, sports, by which I mean tennis and golf, that are in the olympics, it seems to me that Murray and Rose both value their olympic golds very highly compared to their monetary worth. Maybe they are the exception, I don't know. How many of the other leading players in those two sports took part? Djokovic did, and Nadal, so that's 3 out of the world top 4 in tennis. I don't know anything about golf, as I deliberately avoid it (I didn't during the olympics though) and have heard of precious few of the players involved.
The Williams sisters, Johanna Konta, the other Murray, Angelique Kerber, Juan Martin del Potro, Martina Hingis, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 17 August, 2016, 10:18:46 pm
watching the womens hockey now, bloody good stuff.  Come on gals!

Edit just gone 2-0 up and the kiwis with one in the bin
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 17 August, 2016, 10:27:12 pm
There's a really tight volleyball match going on between Italy and Iran. Come on Iran!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 17 August, 2016, 10:31:49 pm
Hockey 3-0 5 mins to go
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 17 August, 2016, 10:33:25 pm
oh dear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 17 August, 2016, 10:37:35 pm
There's a really tight volleyball match going on between Italy and Iran. Come on Iran!

Bugger.

Mind, you, I thought they might've folded after losing the first set, but they're hanging in there.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 17 August, 2016, 11:15:15 pm
oh dear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545)

Could have been worse, he could have been a Russian diver...

Yulia Timoshinina lands on her face in the 10m preliminary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112542
Ilya Zakharov of Russia gets his timing all wrong: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37099465
Nadezhda Bazhina loses her footing and flubs a 3m prelimanry dive: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37066659
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Wowbagger on 17 August, 2016, 11:35:38 pm
It's interesting that in the two traditional big money, high exposure, sports, by which I mean tennis and golf, that are in the olympics, it seems to me that Murray and Rose both value their olympic golds very highly compared to their monetary worth. Maybe they are the exception, I don't know. How many of the other leading players in those two sports took part? Djokovic did, and Nadal, so that's 3 out of the world top 4 in tennis. I don't know anything about golf, as I deliberately avoid it (I didn't during the olympics though) and have heard of precious few of the players involved.
The Williams sisters, Johanna Konta, the other Murray, Angelique Kerber, Juan Martin del Potro, Martina Hingis, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga.

Apologies. I was referring only to this year, and all I saw was the results of the tennis. Of the list you submit, I have only heard of the Williamses, Murray Minor and Hingis (wasn't she quite a long time ago?). I don't take a lot more notice of tennis than I do of golf.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 17 August, 2016, 11:57:51 pm
Federer and Wawrinka would have played but both are injured.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 18 August, 2016, 07:21:27 am
oh dear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112545)

Could have been worse, he could have been a Russian diver...

Yulia Timoshinina lands on her face in the 10m preliminary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37112542
Ilya Zakharov of Russia gets his timing all wrong: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37099465
Nadezhda Bazhina loses her footing and flubs a 3m prelimanry dive: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37066659

yep, saw some of those as well. Looks painful.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 August, 2016, 12:26:05 pm
It's interesting that in the two traditional big money, high exposure, sports, by which I mean tennis and golf, that are in the olympics, it seems to me that Murray and Rose both value their olympic golds very highly compared to their monetary worth. Maybe they are the exception, I don't know. How many of the other leading players in those two sports took part? Djokovic did, and Nadal, so that's 3 out of the world top 4 in tennis. I don't know anything about golf, as I deliberately avoid it (I didn't during the olympics though) and have heard of precious few of the players involved.
The Williams sisters, Johanna Konta, the other Murray, Angelique Kerber, Juan Martin del Potro, Martina Hingis, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga.

Apologies. I was referring only to this year, and all I saw was the results of the tennis. Of the list you submit, I have only heard of the Williamses, Murray Minor and Hingis (wasn't she quite a long time ago?). I don't take a lot more notice of tennis than I do of golf.
Those were some of this year's.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 18 August, 2016, 01:32:39 pm
It's interesting that in the two traditional big money, high exposure, sports, by which I mean tennis and golf, that are in the olympics, it seems to me that Murray and Rose both value their olympic golds very highly compared to their monetary worth. Maybe they are the exception, I don't know. How many of the other leading players in those two sports took part? Djokovic did, and Nadal, so that's 3 out of the world top 4 in tennis. I don't know anything about golf, as I deliberately avoid it (I didn't during the olympics though) and have heard of precious few of the players involved.

Some of this is covered in the sports that shouldn't be in the Olympics thread but I commented on there that Justin Rose seemed genuinely proud of his achievement and winning a Gold medal means a great deal to him. I suspect he never imagined an Olympic gold would have ever been a possibility when he started out in Golf.

As for the others well, several of the big American names such as Jordan Speith decided they were too vulnerable to Zika - although that seems to have less of an effect to top level athletes for whom the Olympics is their only target such as Usain Bolt for example - and Rory McIlroy who at least openly and honestly said he wasn't interested and the Olympics aren't a target for him.

I didn't see it - too many other distractions to watch four rounds of golf but it seemed to come across better than many thought it might and the women's tournament at least showed the best in the world so it's probably better for them to get a high profile tournament as they don't get much coverage the rest of the year.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 18 August, 2016, 03:46:45 pm
The Brownlee's are presently distancing their main rival Mola in the bike section of the traithlon - something like 1:22 ahead of him after 3 laps out of 8.  One thing I noticed - no tri-bars.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 August, 2016, 03:47:31 pm
The Brownlee's are presently distancing their main rival Mola in the bike section of the traithlon - something like 1:22 ahead of him after 3 laps out of 8.  One thing I noticed - no tri-bars.
On any bikes or just theirs?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 18 August, 2016, 03:49:49 pm
On any. I suspect it's because drafting is allowed in Olympic events, and thus tri-bars are not. They're riding in a bunch.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 04:50:13 pm
Good show by Brownlee and Brownlee.  MOAR medalses for BRITAIN :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 04:51:33 pm
Good show by Brownlee and Brownlee.  MOAR medalses for BRITAIN :thumbsup:

Edit: Norty A Brownlee just done a Bad Swear ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 18 August, 2016, 05:00:01 pm
Is that because he realised too late he should have let his brother cross the line first this time round?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 05:05:28 pm
It may have been an upsurge of BRITISH/Yorkshire/familial pride which caused him to inform a vanquished competitor that "We fuckin' done it", or perhaps he was just practising for when he meets the Queen.

Also a bit of free advertising for the bikes bearing the name of TV's C Boardman while they're waiting for the medal ceremony.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 18 August, 2016, 05:18:27 pm
A French presenter just did a brownie / Brownlee joke. It didn't bring the house down surprisingly.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 18 August, 2016, 06:18:24 pm
Edit: Norty A Brownlee just done a Bad Swear ;D

I missed it. Did he call Jonathan Edwards a cunt?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 18 August, 2016, 06:25:26 pm
I really enjoy volleyball. With 2 top quality, evenly matched teams, it is one helluva game.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 07:05:12 pm
Edit: Norty A Brownlee just done a Bad Swear ;D

I missed it. Did he call Jonathan Edwards a cunt?

Not while I was watching.  Should he have?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: citoyen on 18 August, 2016, 07:18:57 pm
Not while I was watching.  Should he have?

It's not an opportunity I would have passed up lightly.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 07:25:37 pm
Absolute carnage in the BMX :o  Was it this much of a crash-fest in London?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: toontra on 18 August, 2016, 07:28:55 pm
I think the GB BMX rider was exaggerating somewhat when he described his event as being as tough if not tougher physically than track or road cycling, citing the fact they get up to 60kph by the first jump.  Er, not quite - you go down a bloody steep hill from the start to give you a bit of help!  Also from what I see you only pedal for about 12 seconds in an event that lasts just over 30.

Not even apples and oranges - more like apples and millet seed.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: red marley on 18 August, 2016, 09:32:59 pm
I was surprised to see when one of the riders took off his helmet, that those BMX bikes are being ridden by grown ups.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ivo on 18 August, 2016, 09:40:43 pm
One of the analysts on the Dutch TV (himself a top class BMX rider) commented that the wind was very unstable and changing, causing part of the chaos (riders hitting the jumps at the wrong speed).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 18 August, 2016, 10:45:06 pm
I was a little concerned by the sight of one of the Dutch riders carrying his bike home minus its front wheel and 2/3 of the fork blades.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 19 August, 2016, 12:05:38 am
I was surprised to see when one of the riders took off his helmet, that those BMX bikes are being ridden by grown ups.
;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Bledlow on 19 August, 2016, 12:10:43 am
Now, I know less than nothing about boxing but there was so much talk of that Conlan chap this morning that I watched a little precis of last night's fight.  Two things:
1)  His opponent was a dead ringer for Lord Voldemort, but twice as scary.
2)  The judges must either have pressed the wrong buttons, or been very generously paid off.
The latter, I believe. That was not the only strangely judged bout. I heard that six boxing judges have now been sacked.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 19 August, 2016, 12:16:07 am
Now, I know less than nothing about boxing but there was so much talk of that Conlan chap this morning that I watched a little precis of last night's fight.  Two things:
1)  His opponent was a dead ringer for Lord Voldemort, but twice as scary.
2)  The judges must either have pressed the wrong buttons, or been very generously paid off.
The latter, I believe. That was not the only strangely judged bout. I heard that six boxing judges have now been sacked.

Not only did Conlan have an expletive-laden rant after the fight, but he apparently trolled Vladimir Putin on Twitter, asking the Russian president how much it had cost him. ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 12:21:15 am
How long before he mysteriously falls fatally ill with kind of poisoning exotic in composition and/or delivery system?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 19 August, 2016, 12:26:16 am
How long before he mysteriously falls fatally ill with kind of poisoning exotic in composition and/or delivery system?

I was pondering whether that fate awaited the divers...  :demon:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Peter on 19 August, 2016, 12:32:43 am
How long before he mysteriously falls fatally ill with kind of poisoning exotic in composition and/or delivery system?

I was pondering whether that fate awaited the divers...  :demon:

That Ashley Young - he gets everywhere!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Ivo on 19 August, 2016, 07:06:43 am
I was a little concerned by the sight of one of the Dutch riders carrying his bike home minus its front wheel and 2/3 of the fork blades.

That was a nasty crash. He touched with a French rider just before the jump so he started the jump out of balance, completely lost balance during the jump and smashed into the banking. The French rider just plunged into the hole and was worse off. Kimman surprisingly only has some issues with his ankle.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 07:27:03 am
That U Bolt lad looks like he could be a bit handy; has he got any previous sprinting form?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 19 August, 2016, 07:39:15 am
That U Bolt lad looks like he could be a bit handy; has he got any previous sprinting form?
According to the man himself, he's now past it!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: trekker12 on 19 August, 2016, 10:38:40 am
I think the GB BMX rider was exaggerating somewhat when he described his event as being as tough if not tougher physically than track or road cycling, citing the fact they get up to 60kph by the first jump.  Er, not quite - you go down a bloody steep hill from the start to give you a bit of help!  Also from what I see you only pedal for about 12 seconds in an event that lasts just over 30.

Not even apples and oranges - more like apples and millet seed.

Sir Chris Hoy was commenting that the power output is similar to that produced by the track sprinters. There is form for crossover. Shanaze Read moved from BMX to track and a few others have tried.

I didn't see London but I was quite impressed with last nights racing.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 19 August, 2016, 10:42:50 am
I haven't read anything but are questions being asked of the BMX course? Or is that the usual number of offs? It did seem to me to be a bit of a fall-feast.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jon P on 19 August, 2016, 12:18:06 pm
Apparently, there's no Brazilians in Brazil - at least, not for the UK women's cycling team, who have been banned from waxing or otherwise interfering with natural hair growth in the ... er, that is to say, they could shave their armpits, but nowhere else ... oh, just read it for yourselves - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37100585  ::-)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Bledlow on 19 August, 2016, 12:38:04 pm
It says they were encouraged not to shave or wax, not banned from doing it.

But it pleases me. There's far too much removal of pubic hair going on.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Bledlow on 19 August, 2016, 12:44:56 pm
That 'robbery' - which some USians are still claiming was an armed robbery, because a security guard is reported to have briefly got out his gun when one of the American swimmers started acting up. Oh, & they were just 'kids' - aged from 20 to 32.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ryan-lochte-rio-robbery-child_us_57b5f38be4b00d9c3a160917? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ryan-lochte-rio-robbery-child_us_57b5f38be4b00d9c3a160917?)

Bunch of drunks with a sense of entitlement acting like arseholes, if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 12:59:38 pm
Well, they're FOREIGNS and probably don't know any better.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 19 August, 2016, 01:02:54 pm
Well, the US press are not giving Lochte and easy ride over it. Pretty much disowning him, despite his medal successes.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: De Sisti on 19 August, 2016, 06:21:13 pm
It seems that the BBC want to interview family, friends, training partners, former school teachers; in fact anyone
who knows one of Team GB's medallists. ::-)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 07:08:28 pm
How on earth does French BMXiste Manon Valentino manage to get her afro inside any helmet made by man?

Edit: ten seconds after hitting "Post" she gave it a thorough test.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: bobb on 19 August, 2016, 07:09:29 pm
Yay for British horses!

I've noticed that the people who sit on the horses are the same as when I was a child!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 07:14:23 pm
When I was a small Mr Larrington, BRITAIN's Nick Skelton was "young" Nick Skelton, as opposed to old farts like HarVey Smith and Jug-Ears David Broome.  I feel very old now.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 07:24:29 pm
Either Australia's Anthony Dean has an awful lot of crash padding stuffed up his jumper or he's got a BEER gut :thumbsup:  Probably why he posted a DNF in the BMX final.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Bledlow on 19 August, 2016, 07:44:39 pm
Well, the US press are not giving Lochte and easy ride over it. Pretty much disowning him, despite his medal successes.
This may turn off sponsors, & hurt him & the others in their bank accounts. Worse for the younger ones, as I doubt they'll have piled up a big wad the way he probably has.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 08:24:39 pm
And the gold medal for the Best Pr0n Star Name of the games so far goes to USAnian diver Steele Johnson.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Deano on 19 August, 2016, 08:31:25 pm
Best celebration ever?

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/rio-olympics-2016/watch-japans-risako-kawai-celebrates-gold-medal-win-by-slamming-coach-to-the-mat-twice_1920305.html
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 August, 2016, 08:42:12 pm
"Oh, shut up, you stupid people!" says diving colemantator Bob Ballard, having just eesisted the temptation to refer to an Egyptian diver as a geezer from Giza creating a geyser.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Bledlow on 19 August, 2016, 08:44:43 pm
Best celebration ever?

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/rio-olympics-2016/watch-japans-risako-kawai-celebrates-gold-medal-win-by-slamming-coach-to-the-mat-twice_1920305.html
The coach seemed to like it.

Ah - she said she'd told him she wanted to if she won, & he said 'fine'. So she did.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: De Sisti on 19 August, 2016, 08:50:18 pm
Best celebration ever?

http://zeenews.india.com/sports/rio-olympics-2016/watch-japans-risako-kawai-celebrates-gold-medal-win-by-slamming-coach-to-the-mat-twice_1920305.html (http://zeenews.india.com/sports/rio-olympics-2016/watch-japans-risako-kawai-celebrates-gold-medal-win-by-slamming-coach-to-the-mat-twice_1920305.html)
The coach seemed to like it.

Ah - she said she'd told him she wanted to if she won, & he said 'fine'. So she did.
Apparently she did it to him after her semi final win (and probably choreographed it with him beforehand).
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 19 August, 2016, 10:01:15 pm
"Oh, shut up, you stupid people!" says diving colemantator Bob Ballard, having just eesisted the temptation to refer to an Egyptian diver as a geezer from Giza creating a geyser.

but how many other nations would appreciate that kind of humour, only the ex-colonies surely?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: rafletcher on 19 August, 2016, 10:19:08 pm
Watching the women's hockey final, I'm struck by the lack of histrionics. There's more than a few footballers could learn some lessons in sportsmanship from those ladies.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 19 August, 2016, 10:46:21 pm
what a game!

had to take a work call in the last Q and missed the equaliser, but wasn't the penalty shoot out something else.

Amazing, well done ladies.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Basil on 19 August, 2016, 10:50:59 pm
Blimey.  That Hinch is a bit good.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: drgannet on 19 August, 2016, 10:54:37 pm
Watching the women's hockey final, I'm struck by the lack of histrionics. There's more than a few footballers could learn some lessons in sportsmanship from those ladies.

Yeah they could. I work with a hockey unpire and the umpires have a lot of power. They decide the length of a yellow card suspension based on where, what happened, what's gone before, etc., so there's no messing. Also, have you noticed how players sprint off to sit their time out? That's because the time starts when their bum hits the bench - what a great rule!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 19 August, 2016, 11:07:11 pm
Watching the women's hockey final, I'm struck by the lack of histrionics. There's more than a few footballers could learn some lessons in sportsmanship from those ladies.

Yeah they could. I work with a hockey unpire and the umpires have a lot of power. They decide the length of a yellow card suspension based on where, what happened, what's gone before, etc., so there's no messing. Also, have you noticed how players sprint off to sit their time out? That's because the time starts when their bum hits the bench - what a great rule!

Similar in rugby, as a ex-ref I never had any issues with disciplining a guy a foot taller and 5 stone heavier than me, they took it, and we discussed in in the bar afterwards.  Look at the punishment for Neil Back's aggression towards a ref.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: simonp on 19 August, 2016, 11:16:08 pm
What a performance from Hinch.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 19 August, 2016, 11:22:06 pm
she was the star of the match in Q2/Q3, considering how many penalty corners the Netherlands had
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 19 August, 2016, 11:26:03 pm
Tom Daley blew away the competition in the 10m platform prelims tonight - he was 10 points clear of the second placed guy, and 30 points clear of the world no1. Fingers crossed he doesn't collapse in the semis, and repeats the performance in the final! Plus, a guy very nearly hit his head off the platform.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Peter on 20 August, 2016, 12:14:52 am
I still remember the tremendous Greg Luganis hitting the board years ago; sickening.  It's been a sad progression for him since his days as one of the world's greatest sportsmen.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 August, 2016, 02:32:34 am
For years I've been under the mistaken impression that Louganis was dead, so I suppose being not dead can only be regarded as a Good Thing.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 August, 2016, 02:40:54 am
Walthamstow boy loses taekwando gold medal in very last second of bout.  P155 :(
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 August, 2016, 02:51:18 am
In the middle of all the fuss about that U Bolt's ninth gold medal can I just take a second or two to point at two-time drug cheat Justin Gatlin and shout "Ha ha! You got beaten by Japan!"

Edit: USAnia just got DQ'd but the colemantators are unable to figure out why ???
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 August, 2016, 12:10:36 pm
GB got DQd for the men's 4x400m and nobody still knows why.

In the middle of all the fuss about that U Bolt's ninth gold medal can I just take a second or two to point at two-time drug cheat Justin Gatlin and shout "Ha ha! You got beaten by Japan!"
Japan have gone for very short shorts this year.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: andyoxon on 20 August, 2016, 01:48:11 pm
Caster Semenya has abnormally high levels of Testosterone which allows her an unfair advantage (according to many people).

They say such levels "make her the equivalent of a man".

But, if she's a woman, even with high levels of Testosterone, that's an advantage just like Simone Biles (the Gymnast) being 4'8" tall or Serena Williams having the build she has.

Afro-Caribbean people are inclined to build lots of fast-twitch muscle around the Glutes.  That is a huge advantage when it comes down to covering short distances bloody quickly.

Isn't it a case of just saying she's gifted in terms of athletic ability?

Probably rightly controversial in Cs's case.  Caster Semenya has a recognised generally deleterious medical condition which apparently puts her (untreated) testosterone levels into the normal male range; unlike SBiles who one assumes is simply at the low end of normal height variation.  (edit) I gather CS has previously received treatment to reduce the effective level of her testosterone, enabling her compete within regulations governing allowed testosterone levels for females.  This has changed and she now competes with her high testosterone level.* It seems likely that CS's musculature has been shaped by high testosterone, which may well be an athletic advantage for her; either way, having to cope with her condition can't have been easy.

* taking this extract at face value...

Quote
Ross Tucker, a professor of exercise physiology in South Africa, points to Semenya's career as an example of natural testosterone's effect. In 2009, before the public knew she was intersex, Semenya dominated the 800m race at the world championships in Berlin. Then the IAAF instituted its testosterone rule. Semenya was required to suppress her levels, and voilá: Her performance dropped off. Though she won a silver medal at the London Games (behind a Russian runner who has since been accused of doping), she failed to move beyond the semifinals in Beijing. After the testosterone rule was suspended in 2015 and she went back to her normal levels, she started dominating again. In April this year, she won the 400m, 800m, and 1500m races at the African Championships—all on the same day. "Now, she is untouchable," Ross wrote recently.

Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 August, 2016, 04:36:35 pm
Tom Daley is making a complete arse of this semi final and is very unlikely to get to the final.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 20 August, 2016, 07:13:12 pm
But BRITON L Heath won gold in a boaty thing, as did YORKSHIRE's N Adams in the boxing, so hurrah!
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 20 August, 2016, 07:16:59 pm
that paddling fast in a stright line is quite impressive.

One of my favourites tonight, modern pentathlon
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 20 August, 2016, 07:41:38 pm
Are these horses trained???
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 20 August, 2016, 07:52:40 pm
yes the horses are trained on the course ahead of the event which sets the target time. The tricky thing for the competitors is the horse/rider combination is selected by lottery and they only get 20 minues together before their round
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 20 August, 2016, 09:41:49 pm
It's good that the athletes' homecoming parade will be in Manchester. The velodrome was expected to be a white elephant when it was built as part of the Olympic bid. How many medals have come out of that investment?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 21 August, 2016, 12:14:35 am
Germany fail in a penalty shoot-out  :o
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 01:51:47 am
Get in there, BRITAIN's M Farah :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: ElyDave on 21 August, 2016, 08:30:48 am
no way I could stay up for that one.

Shame about the fade in the modern pentathlon
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 08:38:59 am
And BRITAIN's Other Chap got fourth, admittedly after two better-placed finishers were DQ'd for being out of lane/having a fistfight on the last lap/the murder of Rasputin/being FOREIGN ect. ect.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Jaded on 21 August, 2016, 08:50:12 am
Pre dickted we will beat the FOREIGNS into third place in the medal table.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 09:27:23 am
What price Crazy P Sagan doing something unlikely in the mountain biking?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 04:19:26 pm
I don't know who's in charge of the music played at the various venues but they deserve a medal.  They just played Sabbath's "Iron Man" at some of the marathon stragglers :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 04:37:29 pm
And who is this with the blue and white jersey and the very orange frame up in third place.

Crazy P Sagan, that's who :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 21 August, 2016, 07:02:49 pm
And who is this with the blue and white jersey and the very orange frame up in third place.

Crazy P Sagan, that's who :thumbsup:

Bitten by Faerie Deflatus and the gremlins in the end.

The Spanish men's MTB XC team win the prize for most impressive pr0n star 'taches.  ;D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 07:03:27 pm
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Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: woollypigs on 21 August, 2016, 07:33:52 pm
Gold to Team DK in handball \o/
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 August, 2016, 07:43:55 pm
The judges at the last boxing bout must have been watching a different fight from me ::-)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Legs on 21 August, 2016, 07:46:59 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  :-\
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: TigaSefi on 21 August, 2016, 07:47:29 pm
Bent boxing judges throughout the Olympics :(
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 21 August, 2016, 07:53:55 pm
French guy was being a wus, covering up. How's the Brit supposed to hit him if he does that? Not fair ref.

French commentators having an orgasm though. They're pretty good  at parochial.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mattc on 21 August, 2016, 08:02:49 pm
GB got DQd for the men's 4x400m and nobody still knows why.

More detail here: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/20/team-gb-martyn-rooney-4x400m-relay-team-disqualified-final-rio2016-athletics

Rooney was in the comm/pundiots box with Balding and Michel Johnson when the "explanation" came out; he was livid. MJ waas very diplomatic explaining the rules and procedures, and agreed that it was the tiniest infraction possible, giving no advantage to GB - or the other two team DQed, miraculously promoting ..... BRAZIL into the final!

It was quite nice to see Rooney so cross-  most athletes in that situation would have bottled up their anger and mouthed a few platitudes. Heart on sleeve stuff  :thumbsup:

Tragically unlucky.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: mcshroom on 21 August, 2016, 09:40:07 pm
Considering his sweary interview after his 400m individual heat, I bet there were some very nervous staff in the BBC studio when he was asked about that.
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: spesh on 21 August, 2016, 09:58:10 pm
French guy was being a wus, covering up. How's the Brit supposed to hit him if he does that? Not fair ref.

French commentators having an orgasm though. They're pretty good  at parochial.

Monsieur Chauvin pour le victoire.  ;)
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: LEE on 23 August, 2016, 09:37:44 pm
Bent boxing judges throughout the Olympics :( Boxing History

FTFY
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Redlight on 24 August, 2016, 10:30:54 am
Is it finished?  Damn.  Missed it again.   :demon:
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Andrew on 24 August, 2016, 10:59:35 am
Missed what?
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 26 August, 2016, 07:25:14 am
Is it finished?  Damn.  Missed it again.   :demon:

Never mind, it'll all happen again, just c.1,400 days to wait.   

You can read about it here:

https://www.olympic.org/news/tokyo-2020
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 August, 2016, 08:25:01 am
Mods, this needs its own thread :D
Title: Re: The Rio Olympics.
Post by: C-3PO on 08 September, 2016, 11:27:40 pm
Masters,

May I respectfully, shiniley and obsequiously plead with you that there is a glorious and worthy separation between the Olympics and the Paralympics (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99045.0).

I, of course, am limited to competing in the Olympics. R2D2, being of limited [removed. ed] is the Paralympic YACF servant of choice. As he is not here, I shall look after his interests as best as I want.