"I would have been interested, BUT my job precludes any events in the first week of any month...Its surprising how many events ARE scheduled in the first week of a month."What's the limit on numbers/how many places left?
That's a shame, although looking at the calendar next year's events seem quite evenly spread over the season. Mille Pennines entries filling up quite quickly!
Andy Corless
Most of the relevant info' has been uploaded but there's still a few bits to add. Website is primarily for those riding/organising.So nothing for WAGs and dreamers??
Event now has its own website at:
www.millepenninesaudax.com
Some loverly looking places on the photos on the new website
Well I've had my quiet season, doing only two thirds of the previous one, so this season I can stretch my legs again..
Entry done and dusted !!
Bring it on.......
Well I've had my quiet season, doing only two thirds of the previous one, so this season I can stretch my legs again..
Entry done and dusted !!
Bring it on.......
I posted this on 3rd October......
This afternoon I tried to enter AGAIN..... thankfully the website is up to the challenge, and gave me a red message saying I was already entered....
I tell you about my memory, but some don't believe....
I want to achieve an R2500, which I view as the purer test of my Randonneur ambitions than an SR.)
Hmmm. I am going to decide in the New Year, as my plans for 2016 aren't anywhere near being settled yet.
There will be drop outs so there being 100 filled places (as looks certain) at this early stage is mostly irrelevant.
And if the waiting list turns out to be oversubscribed by the time I decide, then I'll just tackle another hilly 1000 as a perm, probably a group perm. (My plans are at least certain enough for me to say I am going to do a 1000km ride, as I want to achieve an R2500, which I view as the purer test of my Randonneur ambitions than an SR.)
I've dithered long enough...95/100 places gone, it was time to click that button...I'm in :)
Is there a R2500 medal or badge, as I can't see it for sale (unless it is called something else, or I'm stupid)?I want to achieve an R2500, which I view as the purer test of my Randonneur ambitions than an SR.)
<---pure as the driven snow. I'd not heard of this award. I've apparently done it every season I have been Audaxing except for 2012 when I am missing a 400. Ah well.
Season is falling into place quite nicely now. I will have about 3 weeks to recover from a big trip into the hills and then into this.
Looks very nicely paced over the 4 days with the start time on Friday meaning we're not finishing at 9am or whatever on the Monday as seems to often be the case on 1000s. 115km with a 'flat' finish (does Andy Corless do flat?). Perfect.
"is there a rough route anywhere?"
The route has yet to be 100% finalised. The nearest online map can be found at: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10452919
There is an award but no medal or badge.Yet.
"I looked at the route, having been taken in by the benign seeming 11750m climb figure. I was thus thinking maybe this could be one for fixed. I suppose Hardknott and Wrynose are for walking anyway."
Have you actually entered? The reason I ask is that I can't see your name on the start sheet. If you haven't entered and plan to do so I suggest you get your entry in by the end of the month. We've already surpassed 100 entries!
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Ah go on then.
Ah go on then.
On fixed?
I am in. :)I will be travelling by train. A drive back to the south of England after ridding all this just sounds like trouble to me.
Will it be possible to leave a car at the start point for the duration of the event?
Not sure if I will drive or travel by train.
Rather than heading home to the East Midlands, I fancy heading very north for the Golden Road and Standing Stones 300 the following weekend, but I haven't ran this idea past the wife yet!I am in. :)I will be travelling by train. A drive back to the south of England after ridding all this just sounds like trouble to me.
Will it be possible to leave a car at the start point for the duration of the event?
Not sure if I will drive or travel by train.
BB
I live South Manchester so may drive to the start. If I had not slept enough I will get a B&B / hotel and head back Tuesday.I am in. :)I will be travelling by train. A drive back to the south of England after ridding all this just sounds like trouble to me.
Will it be possible to leave a car at the start point for the duration of the event?
Not sure if I will drive or travel by train.
BB
Any places left?At time of writing still open on AUK website.
Rather than heading home to the East Midlands, I fancy heading very north for the Golden Road and Standing Stones 300 the following weekend, but I haven't ran this idea past the wife yet!I am in. :)I will be travelling by train. A drive back to the south of England after ridding all this just sounds like trouble to me.
Will it be possible to leave a car at the start point for the duration of the event?
Not sure if I will drive or travel by train.
BB
Rob Gray isn't on the 1000, but planning to do some island hopping prior to the Golden Road and Standing Stones 300. I'm hoping to get the train up to join him after the 1000. I have just put my leave application in, so just waiting for approval before making any firm plans.Rather than heading home to the East Midlands, I fancy heading very north for the Golden Road and Standing Stones 300 the following weekend, but I haven't ran this idea past the wife yet!I am in. :)I will be travelling by train. A drive back to the south of England after ridding all this just sounds like trouble to me.
Will it be possible to leave a car at the start point for the duration of the event?
Not sure if I will drive or travel by train.
BB
I had the same thought - I'm vaguely thinking of getting a train to Oban and riding up to Stornoway from there. Long shot, mind.
well I've entered following confirmation from Andy that there were still places. Lots of work to do between now and then.
well I've entered following confirmation from Andy that there were still places. Lots ofworkFUN to do between now and then.
well I've entered following confirmation from Andy that there were still places. Lots of work to do between now and then.
You are not alone. A lot of hills and miles missing in the legs for me.
H
It's a turbot, you morons.OK OK, calm down. We cant all be flatfish experts.
Could be dab? As in I am a dab hand at all that cycling stuff :thumbsup:It's a turbot, you morons.OK OK, calm down. We cant all be flatfish experts.
Anyway, thanks for the info; but what's it got to do with training??
(Personally I think V needs some rollers.)
It's a turbot, you morons.
It's a turbot, you morons.
That's right, I've been told I need a turbot trainer. Although what a fish can tell me about riding a bicycle I am not so sure
I've looked it up on Google, so it must be true, the fastest fish on the bottom of the ocean is a motor pike and side carp.It's a turbot, you morons.
That's right, I've been told I need a turbot trainer. Although what a fish can tell me about riding a bicycle I am not so sure
With all this wet weather lately a fish can probably tell you quite a lot. Turbot training maybe the answer.
Meanwhile back at the event: I've managed to get the route down to about 1019 km but will try to knock some more off before the provisional route-sheet and event info' is due to be issued in March.
Entries still open for the time being due to notified DNSs.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
I've looked it up on Google, so it must be true, the fastest fish on the bottom of the ocean is a motor pike and side carp.It's a turbot, you morons.
That's right, I've been told I need a turbot trainer. Although what a fish can tell me about riding a bicycle I am not so sure
With all this wet weather lately a fish can probably tell you quite a lot. Turbot training maybe the answer.
This is my first 1000 so a little nervous. How does one plan and work out time stops once we go to to multiple days?
accommodation booked now thursday till thursday (need some recovery)
my plan was:
Jan 200 done (Dr Foster's Summer Saunter)
Feb 200 (Malmesbury Mash)
Mar 300 (Making Hay ECEd)
Apr 400 (Brevet Cymru)
May 600 (Bryan Chapman Memorial)
Jun 600 (Mae Mr Pickwick yn mynd i chwilio am ddreigiau a chwedlau. (clasurol).)
and then this.
Does this seem sensible, are there any gaping holes in my run up? This is my first 1000 so a little nervous. How does one plan and work out time stops once we go to to multiple days?
I'll be getting the jersey design back from the suppliers soon.
There'll be limited parking available at/or around the start for the duration of the event. There's also a park + ride about a mile or so from the event start. More details on this will be available around March/April when the provisional event info' will be ready. Distance now down to about 1003 km. I'll be getting the jersey design back from the suppliers soon. Entries still open.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
The lack of flexibility with teachers' holidays prevent me from entering this, but good luck to all the riders. Winter miles bring summer smiles...
Does anyone know if there will be car parking at the start location for the duration of the ride?Earlier in the thread...
I am fancying this (dont now why ;-) ) but I am not sure I will have enough battery time with my lights. I did the Pendel 600 and managed fine with light but this will be aprox double the night time riding I think. I have a Lezyne Deca drive this does about 7 hours on low and a Lezyne xl 400 as a back up which will do about 4 hours.
Will there be any facility's to charge lights at Hawes?
Rich...
I am fancying this (dont now why ;-) ) but I am not sure I will have enough battery time with my lights. I did the Pendel 600 and managed fine with light but this will be aprox double the night time riding I think. I have a Lezyne Deca drive this does about 7 hours on low and a Lezyne xl 400 as a back up which will do about 4 hours.
Will there be any facility's to charge lights at Hawes?
Rich...
not sure whether to use battery lights of get a dynamo ...
I managed a 17hr dark stint at xmas time in the dark on replaceable batteries but it was all a bit awkward
not sure whether to use battery lights of get a dynamo ...
I managed a 17hr dark stint at xmas time in the dark on replaceable batteries but it was all a bit awkward
I wouldn't worry: you'll not get that much darkness in 3 nights in northern England the middle of summer.
I am fancying this (dont now why ;-) ) but I am not sure I will have enough battery time with my lights. I did the Pendel 600 and managed fine with light but this will be aprox double the night time riding I think. I have a Lezyne Deca drive this does about 7 hours on low and a Lezyne xl 400 as a back up which will do about 4 hours.
Will there be any facility's to charge lights at Hawes?
Rich...
not sure whether to use battery lights of get a dynamo ...
I managed a 17hr dark stint at xmas time in the dark on replaceable batteries but it was all a bit awkward
I wouldn't worry: you'll not get that much darkness in 3 nights in northern England the middle of summer.
Unless it's raining ! ;D
I am fancying this (dont now why ;-) ) but I am not sure I will have enough battery time with my lights. I did the Pendel 600 and managed fine with light but this will be aprox double the night time riding I think. I have a Lezyne Deca drive this does about 7 hours on low and a Lezyne xl 400 as a back up which will do about 4 hours.
Will there be any facility's to charge lights at Hawes?
Rich...
If the T shirt looks nice I will enter it ;-) got to have some motivation to get me up them hills ;-)
Have you entered yet Rich ? do it do it do it :)
Steve
not sure whether to use battery lights of get a dynamo ...
I managed a 17hr dark stint at xmas time in the dark on replaceable batteries but it was all a bit awkward
I wouldn't worry: you'll not get that much darkness in 3 nights in northern England the middle of summer.
Finish with 1 minute to spare and drink some beer.
... Unless you plan to kip somewhere in the middle of nowhere I do not see how you can finish much before the finish time. ...
not sure whether to use battery lights of get a dynamo ...
I managed a 17hr dark stint at xmas time in the dark on replaceable batteries but it was all a bit awkward
I wouldn't worry: you'll not get that much darkness in 3 nights in northern England the middle of summer.
"Will blankets be provided or will we have to bring a sleeping bag?"I will take that as a yes and raise your "it's July" with an experienced "it's North Yorkshire, it can snow any day".
That will probably depend on the temperature. If it's boiling hot (it is the first weekend of July), you probably won't need blankets anyway.
Andy Corless
We might have to factor in fog like the Pendle had as well, I am still hovering on the enter button but worried about lights ;-)
Lets hope for sun and no wind for the whole ride ;-)
Rich...
Thanks Andy
Any idea on sizing for these - are they generous for the stated size or tight?
Assuming the airbeds are the ones bought for LEL and now available to organisers, they also come with rough blankets. I find a silk sleeping bag liner a useful addition.
Assuming the airbeds are the ones bought for LEL and now available to organisers, they also come with rough blankets. I find a silk sleeping bag liner a useful addition.
AFAIK Andy no longer has any blankets for the beds. Andy, if you need to borrow any blankets you need to let me know well in advance, preferably in the next week or two. I won't be able to sort you a couple of days before the event like last time, or even a week or two before.
I thought we'd ordered direct from Force GB (who seem to be Stag Sports Ltd on the Paypal receipt) and thus would be sent to our home address.
I ordered on 5th May.
The deadline for ordering jerseys is Sunday 05 June 2016. Jerseys will then be posted out to riders direct from the supplier by 1st class post on or around 25th June 2016, in order to arrive in time for the event.
Andy Corless
So planning equipment and wondering (Andy) whether there would be opportunities to charge usb lights at the central control? If you provide a bunch of multi plug extensions we could plug in lights, Garmins, cameras etc
Taken delivery of my super low gears. I will be pushing 26x30 up the steepest slopes.
Why is your chainring made out of corrugated plastic, hippy? ;D
Looks like there might be a minor change to the route, website has the central control in Askrigg rather than Hawes.This was given a while ago. Waiting for the final gpx and route sheet now to see if Andy has lost his sense of humour.
Paul. Leave the car at home. Ride to the start :thumbsup:I am catching the train. There is no way I would trust myself after all that riding to drive home to Reading :hand:
Paul. Leave the car at home. Ride to the start :thumbsup:
You don't return to the start. Overnights are at Askrigg. Nowhere near the start.
"Waiting for route sheets"
Probably going out on Saturday. The eagle-eyed will have noticed that I've had to re-modify the route on the last section. The route now goes direct from Askrigg to Bispham, cutting out Clitheroe. The final distance is now 1004 km. Both event websites have been updated!
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Starting to actually think about this ride now!
Got round to booking train tickets and all that jazz. I'd been focused on my last ride and then come back to a lot of demands on my time business wise.
Bring it on now! I am looking forward to revisiting some bits I have ridden before, and also discovering some new bits.
Hello Andy,
Will there be a power socket at Askrigg so I can charge a headlight?
Hello Andy,You and 100 others
Will there be a power socket at Askrigg so I can charge a headlight?
I'm borrowing a USB cache charger (or two) to go in the dropbag to avoid this scenario. Self sufficiency and all that.
Bought myself a pair of 28mm Michelin Pro4 Endurance this week, instead of my usual 25mm ones; thought I might gain a bit of comfort for my tour of the North. Slightly disappointed to find my extra £2 and 40g per tyre buys me less than 1mm extra width. ???
I'm borrowing a USB cache charger (or two) to go in the dropbag to avoid this scenario. Self sufficiency and all that.
Bought myself a pair of 28mm Michelin Pro4 Endurance this week, instead of my usual 25mm ones; thought I might gain a bit of comfort for my tour of the North. Slightly disappointed to find my extra £2 and 40g per tyre buys me less than 1mm extra width. ???
Using normal or wide rims? I've not run the 28s of these but I had a 25 Pro4End on the rear for the Tan Hill. You might find they're taller so could still get some extra comfort from them?
Probably getting first train up from London for this to make the 10am start so to save using holiday leave and money. Involves changing at Preston for Blackpool. Anyone know what these local trains are like around 8.30-9am on a Friday? Will I be able to get on amongst the commuter traffic?
Virgin site lets you make a cycle reservation but price was over twice what was available via thetrainline - so booked train via this and made cycle reservation separately by phone.
Event info' and route-sheet can now be downloaded at: https://millepenninesaudax.com/event-information/. I'll be e-mailing all entrants their own copies over the next week or so (apart from those that have already notified me of DNS) . You'll notice the route-sheet has the final section from Askrigg back to Bispham missing. This is because of the recent route change and this part of the route needs re-checking before issuing, which I'll be doing sometime early next week. It is then that entrants will receive their own copies.Will GPX files be available?
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
New axle and bearing kit is £25 per side, might as well have new pedals for £50!).Pedals are now disposable items. They last about 10 - 15K km and then I need some new ones. If it is a wet winter that time is less. It's all the plastic bodies and parts that are tress fitted into the bodies that makes maintenance impossible.
Just started to think about this in earnest, after spending the last few weeks trying to resolve the issue of being unable to up/download etrex files after upgrading to windows 10 (my solution was to go back to windows 8.1). Anyway, I was going to either drive, or ride to the event (adding on 600km). Now looking at the train (one gets in at about 00:30 Friday morning). Is there anywhere cheap I can stay that is open at that time?Travel Lodges are open 24 hours a day - but Blackpool is a holiday resort and it is summer, so I do not know how cheap it will be.
Just started to think about this in earnest, after spending the last few weeks trying to resolve the issue of being unable to up/download etrex files after upgrading to windows 10 (my solution was to go back to windows 8.1). Anyway, I was going to either drive, or ride to the event (adding on 600km). Now looking at the train (one gets in at about 00:30 Friday morning). Is there anywhere cheap I can stay that is open at that time?
I'm going to have to make some more changes to the route. This is because of road closures etc. The new route-sheet will be e-mailed to all entrants probably Thursday (it looks like you're going to have to take the A588 to/from Cockerham in both directions, as one of the roads (I think Ghants Lane) might be closed.It is an immense task doing a route sheet for 1,000km. I am sure we can cope with one or two road closures. I for one am not worried about this. Now if Hardknott pass was closed I would be concerned 8)
Andy Corless
Probably getting first train up from London for this to make the 10am start so to save using holiday leave and money. Involves changing at Preston for Blackpool. Anyone know what these local trains are like around 8.30-9am on a Friday? Will I be able to get on amongst the commuter traffic?
Euston - Preston - Blackpool North?
I booked the first London - Preston train (5:30)
And I thought I was being too laid-back about getting organised. :)
Anthony - I'm on that train too. See you bright and early! Had toyed with going night before but would involve more time off work for a cheap train. Or going up v late. I never sleep well before events anyway so a few hours in my own bed is better than nothing. Feeling woefully unprepared for this.
J
A plea from a little pleader:
If anyone booked on the Friday 05:30 from Euston, changing at Preston, returning on the Monday Blackpool North 17:12 (or Layton 17:16), changing at Manchester, is a DNS, can they PM me, as the four bike spaces are still reserved (I'm assuming at least two by audaxers).
Thanks for reading!
A plea from a little pleader:
If anyone booked on the Friday 05:30 from Euston, changing at Preston, returning on the Monday Blackpool North 17:12 (or Layton 17:16), changing at Manchester, is a DNS, can they PM me, as the four bike spaces are still reserved (I'm assuming at least two by audaxers).
Thanks for reading!
Are all the trains south booked up bike-wise? I've only got round to booking a one way ticket, oops.
Reminds me - and I've now signed up with Best Bike Split which claims to be able to give an optimised pacing plan for a route.
Also, interesting on the pacing front - I should only be producing >200W on 3 climbs in the whole day (Hardknott, Wrynose and the climb out of Kendal).
Also, interesting on the pacing front - I should only be producing >200W on 3 climbs in the whole day (Hardknott, Wrynose and the climb out of Kendal).
Well, I suppose the idea is to not go in the red at all. But on those climbs that is impossible
as somebody who's not cycled much out of wales, there an idiots guide to when to expect the crazy climbs you speak of?
Apparently I should aim for 240W up Hardknott and should be able to ride Day 1 in about 11.5h moving time, with a reasonable effort level (IF = 0.6).
Does anyone know if you need a bike reservation with Northern trains?
Nightmare today trying to confirm the reservation with Virgin
On day 1, at around 190-200km, Hardknott and Wrynose passes, both with 1:3 gradients.
Day 3, multiple very steep climbs including Rosedale Chimney, around the middle of the day, so between 100-200km in, at a guess.
Does anyone know if you need a bike reservation with Northern trains?
Does anyone know if you need a bike reservation with Northern trains?
According to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/static/images/structure/css/CycleLeaflet.pdf (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/static/images/structure/css/CycleLeaflet.pdf) there are no reservations available or required on any Northern services.
There is a sign at the top of Rosedale Chimney advising cyclists to walk down.Lucky we're going up it then. Went down it ok on last years Pendle. I think riding down is probably safer than walking at the bottom.
Booking with Virgin is simple, the trick is to use their East Coast website, not the West Coast one - that way you can book bikes online. They will automatically book bikes on all sections required or tell you there are no reservations available, i.e. full. They also tell you if reservations aren't possible - i.e. not required. You don't get the bike option until you go to the actual booking page. You can also use the First Great Western website which also does bike reservations.
I tried the East Coast web site but the price was more than twice what it was via thetrainline.com so I used that. Booked the cycle reservation by phone ok but the machine won't produce the bike reservation tickets. 3 trips to 2 different stations today. An online chat session, 3 phone calls to Virgin and the Trainline but still no joy.
Amusing at times though, after being told that I should know how their system works by Virgin, they asked if I could try Milton Keynes or Preston to pick up the tickets.
Well I never knew that. Just tried to book out and rtn trains, but no bike spaces on any :(
Booking with Virgin is simple, the trick is to use their East Coast website, not the West Coast one - that way you can book bikes online. They will automatically book bikes on all sections required or tell you there are no reservations available, i.e. full. They also tell you if reservations aren't possible - i.e. not required. You don't get the bike option until you go to the actual booking page. You can also use the First Great Western website which also does bike reservations.
I tried the East Coast web site but the price was more than twice what it was via thetrainline.com so I used that. Booked the cycle reservation by phone ok but the machine won't produce the bike reservation tickets. 3 trips to 2 different stations today. An online chat session, 3 phone calls to Virgin and the Trainline but still no joy.
Amusing at times though, after being told that I should know how their system works by Virgin, they asked if I could try Milton Keynes or Preston to pick up the tickets.
Is there a group doing anything on the Thursday evening
Is there a group doing anything on the Thursday eveninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKpuU2k1zD0
I enjoyed Jasper, but not the drunk. Thursday off work, and arriving in Blackpool 3pm-ish.Is there a group doing anything on the Thursday eveninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKpuU2k1zD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQF646B5eE
Dear rider,
Please find attached the final event info' and route-sheet for the forthcoming Mille Pennines 1000, due to be held over the weekend of 01 - 04 July 2016.
I now look forward to seeing you on the day and do hope you enjoy the randonnee.
Marcus - I think we all owe you an ice cream.I checked the tracks Marcus did and they matched mine in all but one small section outside Keswick - I checked the route sheet and I had made an error.
email!
email!
I guess the emails are being drip fed, nothing received here yet (and I have check my junk mail folder). Was there any additional info in the email, or the same as on the excellent website linked to much earlier in this thread?
Have a great ride everyone. I had planned to join you, but somehow managed to also book a place on La Marmotte and as I am in France I will ride that one.You have no taste :facepalm:
Won't have to deal with those high gradients either, hehe. Have fun.
Thanks Andy
Any idea on sizing for these - are they generous for the stated size or tight?
I have a 38" chest and the Force GB Medium i have is a snug fit, so i've gone for a Large this time
Marcus - I think we all owe you an ice cream.
Getting excited and also apprehensive about challenge ahead
Was that your first 600 too? That was fun. Still my fastest 600.I am a bit superstitious and will only order a jersey if I finish.
Jersey arrived. Def relaxed rather than race fit. Mines a medium (187cm tall, 70kg - and it's a bit loose - don't size up)
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Was that your first 600 too? That was fun. Still my fastest 600.I am a bit superstitious and will only order a jersey if I finish.
Jersey arrived. Def relaxed rather than race fit. Mines a medium (187cm tall, 70kg - and it's a bit loose - don't size up)
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BB
ABSOLUTE FIRST DRAFT - will review them again this afternoon. Do not download them and use them yet. You will die of lostness.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14498375 - there's a small one-way issue at km107 to tidy up
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14498861
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14499085
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14625420
Busy more than anything. But it is quite steep, with a couple of sweeping hairpins.
http://www.kirkbymoorside.info/traffic-accident-sutton-bank/
I will be using a Michelin Pro Race 4 25mm on the front in an attempt to get the best grip on the descents. Wonder what other people will be using. Down hill grip will be important in one or two place on the ride. :thumbsup:
BB
I will be using a Michelin Pro Race 4 25mm on the front in an attempt to get the best grip on the descents. Wonder what other people will be using. Down hill grip will be important in one or two place on the ride. :thumbsup:
BB
30mm tyres and hydraullic disc brakes
Conti Grand Prix 4 Season 25mm types...
I will try and compare will's gpx against mine and see if we have any deviation. Save downloading then until as late as possible and there is as much chance as ever that I have got them something like right.
There are differences between Will's and the routesheet in Lancaster, Keswick and Ambleside.
The event information is more or less the same as before. It's the route instructions that are different. There's about 35 more to send to entrants by email.
Andy Corless
There are differences between Will's and the routesheet in Lancaster, Keswick and Ambleside.
Just for clarity, are you saying there is a difference between Will's gpx and the routesheet or that Will's is true to the routesheet and there is a difference between those and the gpx files from diesel and myself?
Hopefully I have managed to avoid one way street transgressions. Not easy in RWGPS sometimes.Marcus
Hopefully I have managed to avoid one way street transgressions. Not easy in RWGPS sometimes.
So, weather?
Exactly the same situation here - I have a large which I will happily swap for a medium if anyone is interested (drop me a PM).Thanks Andy
Any idea on sizing for these - are they generous for the stated size or tight?
I have a 38" chest and the Force GB Medium i have is a snug fit, so i've gone for a Large this time
Large is too big :facepalm:
Anyone got a Medium that is too small for them and would like to swap?
Here?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/53%C2%B050'52.0%22N+3%C2%B002'19.5%22W/@53.847793,-3.0392962,140m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d53.847793!4d-3.038749 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/53%C2%B050'52.0%22N+3%C2%B002'19.5%22W/@53.847793,-3.0392962,140m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d53.847793!4d-3.038749)
https://ridewithgps.com/events/Mille-Pennines-1000km-2016
^ all my shit in one place
I'd love to be able to throw my Kinesis 4S Disc down those hills with hydro brakes and fat tyres but it's looking extremely likely the poor PX will be out again.
We're not going up that track to the Tan Hill again are we? Sense of humour failure waiting to happen up there ;)
"Hi Andy, I haven't received an email. Have they all now been sent?
russell<at>carson.tk"
No because your e-mail keeps bouncing however, I sent you a copy in the post this morning.
You can also print a copy off here at: https://millepenninesaudax.com/event-information/
I do have your entry though.
https://ridewithgps.com/events/Mille-Pennines-1000km-2016
^ all my shit in one place
https://ridewithgps.com/events/Mille-Pennines-1000km-2016
^ all my shit in one place
Hi Marcus, I have a slight difference day 3 204 km - but an important one - location of control in Thirsk.
I think this is third exit here and then Londis Garage for control. See https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14502714
Richard.
https://ridewithgps.com/events/Mille-Pennines-1000km-2016
^ all my shit in one place
Hi Marcus, I have a slight difference day 3 204 km - but an important one - location of control in Thirsk.
I think this is third exit here and then Londis Garage for control. See https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14502714
Richard.
Info sheet says anything around the market square is also good and I know I am aiming for more than a garage forecourt in the ideal world!
I have two back lights and a front light connected to a son delux. How vital is it that I also have retroreflectors? Will reflective tape/stickers do? I don't have any mounted, so I was just wondering about the rules. On AUK's website it's stated that "The responsibility for ensuring that a machine complies with the road traffic laws rests solely with the rider", but I'm a bit uncertain regarding UK traffic laws...
I have two back lights and a front light connected to a son delux. How vital is it that I also have retroreflectors? Will reflective tape/stickers do? I don't have any mounted, so I was just wondering about the rules. On AUK's website it's stated that "The responsibility for ensuring that a machine complies with the road traffic laws rests solely with the rider", but I'm a bit uncertain regarding UK traffic laws...
That sounds fine. UK regs are a bit of a mess, and as long as you're well lit up, any police officer will take the pragmatic attitude that you can be seen and you've made an effort to be seen, rather than sticking to the letter of the law (whatever it is).
https://ridewithgps.com/events/Mille-Pennines-1000km-2016
^ all my shit in one place
I had a look at the places where I noted differences in Will's GPX.
Your route through Lancaster matches the routesheet.
Through Ambleside is the same as Will's. The routesheet has L at TL SP Keswick. You continue straight on, to bear left into the one way system. They are very similar in terms of distance.
Through Keswick, you match the routesheet.
These differences are largely academic, except that if riding in a group, people may be going different ways.
I've only been through the first 500km so far. I'll look at the remainder tomorrow or Wednesday.
Who's doing a weather bagel for this?
Who's doing a weather bagel for this?Best not too look ...
What about the days with the bad weather though? ;)
So... I downloaded Marcus' files as tracks and I'm trying to divide day 1 into two parts as my eTrex cuts it off. Only I can't seem to make a new track after I shorten it by half. Base camp only gives me the option of creating a route. In which case it reroutes some parts. Does anyone know if it's possible to save files as tracks in Base camp?You could use GPS Visualizer (http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input) to downsample the number of trackpoints, it's what I'm planning to use to get Marcus' tracks on my eTrex (thanks Marcus btw :thumbsup:)
So... I downloaded Marcus' files as tracks and I'm trying to divide day 1 into two parts as my eTrex cuts it off. Only I can't seem to make a new track after I shorten it by half. Base camp only gives me the option of creating a route. In which case it reroutes some parts. Does anyone know if it's possible to save files as tracks in Base camp?Not sure what's going on there but my method==> Download Marcus's route as a GPX, create a new list in basecamp and import the gpx files ==> use the divide function which I think is under tools menu (looks like a pair of scissors) and chop it wherever you like and it will leave you with two tracks ==> double click the tracks to check the number of trackpoints are under 10,000 and then the Etrex will accept it. I have split the files into the sections on the route sheet so a total of 14 and the file sizes are well within the limits.
I have done 14 sections in separate files with routs and track points. All the tracks are black as I like this the best. All in one GPX file and have worked when copied as one file to eTrex 30. I have not checked on my old eTrex Vista but same method used to work 2 years ago.
I checked against Marcus's tracks and there was no difference that I noticed.
http://www.gpxeditor.co.uk/routes2/users/SteveFerry/MP1000 (http://www.gpxeditor.co.uk/routes2/users/SteveFerry/MP1000)
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Just looked at the weatherbagel. Not sure I'll want to do it/enjoy it if it rains a lot. I've survived tricky wet descents once too often. My luck is sure to run out!I've got new fancy Swiss brake blocks :thumbsup:
I'm really looking forward to it! I reckon the main danger is getting disheartened when I'm really close to home (and it's never very far from home for me).Oh dear. Easy for you to bail or not turn up then? A year ago I hated the idea of dns after paying the entry (I earn peanuts), but after dns-ing a few (being ill mainly), I have the attutude it's only a bike ride. Having said that, I've reluctantly gone out the last few months just to keep my rrty going. My audax enthusiasm this year has taken a nose dive.
Is there a definitive answer somewhere up-thread, as to whether there will be blankets available for sleeping? I can't find anythingI'm not sure it has been answered - I'm planning to take a silk sleeping bag liner in my drop bag, hopefully it'll give me more of a sensation of being in bed than just sleeping on an airbed in cycle clothes.
This will be my first ride over 600km and, while perhaps not the gentlest introduction to rides of this distance, at least using Askrigg as a base provides options if it gets a bit much to cut short or miss a stage. This has been in my calendar for a while and I had expected to have by now a new svelte light bike, swanky groupset and a GPS with mapping so I can see where I'm going. As it is, I will be on my old cycle-to-work scheme bike made of scaffolding tubes forged in Mordor and using a route sheet with a bull dog clip. However it's served me ok for other audaxes..
I'm also taking a sleeping bag liner so I can pretend I'm in a bed rather than on it.
Last weekend for me was like this... :sick:I don't remember seeing you on the snow/floods Dean 2013 :) . I used to think suffering/doing a hard ride gave me bragging rights/street cred. Just had a wet 30km ride home, and either I'm sweating in my gore jacket, or it's not working. Still making my mind up.
Offa's Dyke 600 - 8,469 metres ascending
https://www.strava.com/activities/622437404 (https://www.strava.com/activities/622437404)
By analysis of sheer ascending per kilometre it was harder than what we are going into, and at times, in some heavy rain, and on some gravelly descents and worse ascents, I even considered staying home this coming weekend.....
However, as always, after the ride you just want MORE..... ;D
I'm thinking of running a re-run of the event next summer specifically for those that have entered but can't make it this time (ie - DNS/DNF only), with a reduced entry fee (probably £25).
Of course, as flies drop... I imagine that also leads to no worries about drop bag size...Are we talking drop bag/holdall/rucksack/suitcase here?
Not that I was going huge or anything !!
Of course, as flies drop... I imagine that also leads to no worries about drop bag size...Are we talking drop bag/holdall/rucksack/suitcase here?
Not that I was going huge or anything !!
"Mille Pennine and LEL in the same year
Weather isn't looking particularly good and entrants are dropping like flies! I'm thinking of running a re-run of the event next summer specifically for those that have entered but can't make it this time (ie - DNS/DNF only), with a reduced entry fee (probably £25).
Don't think anyone's mentioned anything for Thursday evening yet, so in the absence of any other arrangements I'll be in the Albert and the Lion Wetherspoon's by 7 P.M. if anyone fancies a beer.https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool
Don't think anyone's mentioned anything for Thursday evening yet, so in the absence of any other arrangements I'll be in the Albert and the Lion Wetherspoon's by 7 P.M. if anyone fancies a beer.Do they have a place where you can park the bikes?
Do they have a place where you can park the bikes?
The Albert and the Lion has seating outside at the front. It is next to the Tower and is likely to be crowded. There will be many places and I do not know Blackpool. Does anyone know a pub with a garden where we can stash the bikes?Don't think anyone's mentioned anything for Thursday evening yet, so in the absence of any other arrangements I'll be in the Albert and the Lion Wetherspoon's by 7 P.M. if anyone fancies a beer.https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool
Depends on which train I manage to catch if I will be at the pub
GWS Veloboy
Very sad to say I won't be riding now :'(
I came off my bike last night after hitting something and landed on my face. Eight stitches now under my chin :-X
Very sad to say I won't be riding now :'(
I came off my bike last night after hitting something and landed on my face. Eight stitches now under my chin :-X
Well, the bags have been re-packed. Small rackpack with side panniers (easier to store the wet gear) in favour of heavier rackpack with side panniers (which wouldn't have been needed). My panniers (drop bag), are either too small or too big, so using one of my kids small rucksacks (I'm sure you couldn't fit more than five 2L bottles in it), so I hope Andy doesn't object.
Speedy recovery, veloboy. Do stitches=free drinks down the pub?
Hope to see someone at 'spoons tonight!
Jonah just emailed me for help. I do not know much about etrex but if someone can guide me, I can email him the stuff (as he is a self confessed idiot when it comes to technology!)
I believe our bearded fixed hard man is sorted now.
So Northern trains do have a space for bikes..... And in that space we have
My bike, me, 4 other people, about 20 bags, a toddler in a push chair and a dog..
Love trains
When d'yall think you'll be in the NYMs? I might ride over the hill and point and laugh as you pass, if it's not the middle of the night. There's definitely a photo-op at the Crag Bank turn, after Kildale.
When d'yall think you'll be in the NYMs? I might ride over the hill and point and laugh as you pass, if it's not the middle of the night. There's definitely a photo-op at the Crag Bank turn, after Kildale.
Sometime Sunday morning/early afternoon. Maybe later - unlikely to be the middle of the night unless things go extremely well or terribly. Shall I text when I get to Yarm? You may have to remind me...
When d'yall think you'll be in the NYMs? I might ride over the hill and point and laugh as you pass, if it's not the middle of the night. There's definitely a photo-op at the Crag Bank turn, after Kildale.
Sometime Sunday morning/early afternoon. Maybe later - unlikely to be the middle of the night unless things go extremely well or terribly. Shall I text when I get to Yarm? You may have to remind me...
I have a spreadsheet with a schedule predicting when I will get to Yarm
But this is on day 3 so if I make it that far it won't be when the plan says
Roughly when will riders be passing through Stanhope up to Kielder? Might have a ride out.When I was looking at the route I guessed tomorrow breakfast time, 9-10am ish (depends when people decide to leave the hall in the morning, I suppose some might even not sleep the first night). Suggested control is Co-op or Everyday cafe
What spot tracker package is Marcus using again?
What spot tracker package is Marcus using again?
Look back five posts :)
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93277.msg2049225#msg2049225
ETA: Ah - just read your post properly - not sure what type it is. He seems to making the most of the taily at the moment. Vroom!
Marcus out on western edge of Cumbria at moment. Heading back east to Hardknott?Or perhaps he'll have a paddle and top-up his tan on the beach? Maybe a sunset barbie?
Marcus out on western edge of Cumbria at moment. Heading back east to Hardknott?Or perhaps he'll have a paddle and top-up his tan on the beach? Maybe a sunset barbie?
;)
I think the Airnimal rider is Adam from Hackney Cycling club.
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Roughly when will riders be passing through Stanhope up to Kielder? Might have a ride out.When I was looking at the route I guessed tomorrow breakfast time, 9-10am ish (depends when people decide to leave the hall in the morning, I suppose some might even not sleep the first night). Suggested control is Co-op or Everyday cafe
Here's the full url of Gareth's tracker:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0vcSvCpkdLO90ATgOon583LaDBET8vDLA
A few more photos from yesterday. There's a whole load more at https://flic.kr/s/aHskCwfQVq - feel free to put names to 'em if you can.Might be Gareth Baines in a Bristol South jersey^ Or actually it looks more like Alex Bend.
Sandside, about two hours and 60km in with a decent tailwind from the start:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7268/27957533781_d32a6b2e7a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JAvELv)
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7340/27421431754_2f070056de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HM91j7)
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7423/27421357674_1fec177865_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HM8ChS)
And on Dunmail Raise. First (I think) overt the top:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7332/27932975202_d397648042_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JykNmJ)
Tandem-wrestling:Reg T behind the tandem.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7269/27933047392_51e37633f4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JymaPo)
Climbing out from Grasmere:
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7386/27421687163_f2a9b5773c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HMajeH)
Looks like Aidan Hedley to me:
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7340/27421659723_47d84846c3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HMab5B)
Best bike on show, for me, was this Raleigh Record Ace:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7390/28035627205_f0837ecf83_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JHpVdR)
That road floods (well, it used to, all those years ago ... )
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7340/27421431754_2f070056de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HM91j7)
If anyone does get round an carries a GPS - can you tell us the climb figure?
Best bike on show, for me, was this Raleigh Record Ace:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7390/28035627205_f0837ecf83_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JHpVdR)
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7340/27421431754_2f070056de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HM91j7)
Who else is on fixed apart from Jonah & jahs (above)?
It gives an angle on the magnitude of this event when someone can withdraw in Langthwaite (up Arkengarthdale on the east of Tan Hill) and then ride all the way over to the west coast to pick up the car.
some in-game action:
Best bike on show, for me, was this Raleigh Record Ace:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7390/28035627205_f0837ecf83_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JHpVdR)
I had a word with the rider when he got to Askrigg on the second loop. He'd gone straight out at about 11pm on Friday, and was back again on Saturday, a couple of hours ahead of the next rider. Fitting 700C wheels, in place of the original 27"s and deep-drop Tektro brakes leaves space for 35 mm tyres.
Peter Simon (Bynea CC). I remember him telling me about this bike project on the Bryan Chapman, oooh, 5 years ago.
Nice bit of footage Chris, what's the camera?
Erm. I don't know who this is. Which will probably be really embarrassing when someone I know really well pops up and says "I can't believe you didn't recognise me!". In my defence, there are a lot of people in the world, and I don't recognise nearly all of them. That's a really popular cycling road, and it was getting a bit awkward, taking pics of random riders who weren't on the Mille Pennines at all.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7493/27444958784_1a475b0866_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HPdA5y)
I had AT problems after Iceland, it took about 5 weeks of cycling very little to recover. Managed to get around Blacksheeps 4 & 6 with no AT problems.Here's the full url of Gareth's tracker:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0vcSvCpkdLO90ATgOon583LaDBET8vDLA
Oops forum curse, he has scratched with Achilles problems according to twitter
Soon though I'm into the windier bits, and I was very prone to side wind, indeed on many of the descents at full speed down, augmented by rear/side wind, it was just unsafe (at my weight), since a two foot change of course would have put me off road
Soon though I'm into the windier bits, and I was very prone to side wind, indeed on many of the descents at full speed down, augmented by rear/side wind, it was just unsafe (at my weight), since a two foot change of course would have put me off road
Yikes.
I weigh 15kg more than you and still have problems with high (or even medium) winds. Not sure how others cope with it but would like to know from any survivors!
Gnarly.You should give yourself a pat-on-the-back .. oh, I see you already have :P
Straight into the top three tough rides for me pop pickers.
Not good weather for 58kg riders.
Amazing though. Thanks massively to Andy and everyone else that helped with a properly challenging event.
Massive chapeau to all who finished. I think we can be pleased.
Commiserations to those who packed, but massive chapeau to all just for being on the start line. Takes guts (or stupidity) just to attempt such a ride.
If anyone does get round an carries a GPS - can you tell us the climb figure?
In metric, a fuckload.
38 riders have finished the inaugural Mille Pennines 1000.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
38 riders have finished the inaugural Mille Pennines 1000.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Out of 90 starters?!!!!!
Wow.
I was one of the 52 quitters :(
I quit on day 2 at Kielder, still had three hours in hand but it had taken ten hours to do 150k and there was still 210k to go finish the day, so it was looking like a 5-6am ETA at Askrigg which would mean a bit of toast and a cuppa then straight out into day 3. I am rubbish without sleep. So I packed.
First AUK ride in 13 years of SRs, PBPs, LELs, Mille Alba & Cymru etc. which has defeated me.
4 of us got a lovely B&B in Kielder, pub dinner, then finished day 2 yesterday at leisurely pace back to Askrigg, then rode back to Bispham today. 700km. Thoroughly enjoyable weekend but unfinished business.
https://www.strava.com/activities/630181998
I will be back to get the job done properly next time. Specifically:
*set off at 4am on day 2, rather than lying in till 6
*quick breakfast at Barnard Castle rather than lose an hour at Stanhope cafe
*MTFU
Thanks Andy & helpers, and massive kudos to the 38 :thumbsup:
The weather was cruel over Dunmail Raise this aft. First half of the field were fine, but the rain came on and gradually increased for the rest. A few pics:
A cheerful Deano (is there any other kind?) at Sandside, earlier:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7443/27741056090_c059c4c92e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jgoauw)
Deano, still cheerful, and clubmate, on Dunmail, climbing out from Grasmere:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7352/27407498244_acfde87536_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HKUAnb)
I will be back to get the job done properly next time. Specifically:
*MTFU
Thanks Andy & helpers, and massive kudos to the 38 :thumbsup:
This "top three tough rides" business; I was thinking that SimonP started this, the MC1K(a) and the HGWI1300 - all of which have a gnarly reputation (not necessarily deserved in each case!). I entered all 3, but only started 2. Did you ride either Mille Cymru? (forgive my Monday morning memory)
And what are your top three?? (I can guess one, if foreign allowed)
First AUK ride in 13 years of SRs, PBPs, LELs, Mille Alba & Cymru etc. which has defeated me.
Yep, they finished :thumbsup:
On arrival as Ascrigg I was having trouble finding vegan food, the tinned spagetti looked amazing and I was about to have a bucket load until I realised it was the kind with chunks of animal matter in it. That’s fine I’ll have the pasta I thought, but I was in a cheese sauce … dammit. So 4 slices of bread and jam filled the gap instead.
A quick canter through some of the day 1 video. There's an enormous amount of colour grading still to do with five different cameras on the go, best seen at 720p.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JWdisLuKgA
Descending to Swaledale (I think the front two are Joolz and Brian, who we shuttled with along the route):
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7445/27494488723_174cd5c4a6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HTArB2)
Keep the photos coming i'm waiting for one me me to pop up :)
My videos should be processed by now, you can see them on youtube
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gyav4AI8M
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs6obwH0-8
Keep the photos coming i'm waiting for one me me to pop up :)Cracking video Adam, captured the enormity of the event very well - I was the chap who you filmed (just) making it up Rosedale Chimney (30/30 gearing helps). I'm so glad there's evidence of this, I was starting to doubt I did it myself ;)
My videos should be processed by now, you can see them on youtube
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gyav4AI8M
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs6obwH0-8
I've uploaded a collection of photo's and videos made during the event onto the event website at: www.millepenninesaudax.com
You'll also find the provisional finishers list. The same list will appear on the AUK results website shortly.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Audax Club Hackney would like to thank Mr Corless and his team for an outstanding long distance cycling event. The club saw 7-riiders taking part, 5 of whom got round the gruelling leviathan from hell route. Those included Adam 'Kinzey' Kinsey, Julian 'Joolz' Wiliams, James 'Skilly' Skillen, Paul 'Paul' Manasseh & Justin 'Jonah' Jones
Ed Holt and Joss Wallace battled hard against the elements but unfortunately didn't make the entire distance this time.
ACH
I've uploaded a collection of photo's and videos made during the event onto the event website at: www.millepenninesaudax.com
You'll also find the provisional finishers list. The same list will appear on the AUK results website shortly.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
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Thanks so much Andy! You're a star.
+1 Andy (everyone looks fcuked!)
Availablilty of beds should not depend on how fast you are, of course, but I understood that a cock up had occurred beyond Andy's control...... and I speak as one who has often got to sleep-stops to find all the decent slots taken. If it's a first for you, mikey, count yourself lucky! ;)
The fastest riders got beds - but they are the riders most likely to finish anyway. So your correlation is a red herring.
Looks like a strong correlation between those who got a bed and those who finished....
I have of course spoken with some of the riders that were DNF and all seemed to want to give the event another go. With this in mind, I'm considering a re-run of the event next year, but only for those that were DNS/DNF.
I don't think there was anything wrong with the geography of the route. Although stage 2, at 362 km, might have seemed a bit too far for some riders, many riders arrived back at Askrigg between 10:00 pm & 01:00 am. If the event runs again, I'd likely shorten stage 2 and make up the distance on stage 4.
Andy Corless
Just reading through this, it sounds like a properly tough event test to sort the men from the boys and hard wimmin from the girls.
I'm not sure about the bed thing, I never got a bed when I did Blacksheeps 600 last year, but I was so knackard the hard floor was fine, as was my drop bag as a pillow. The faster guys get the beds, and have time to sleep - that's life, right. It is what it is, life isn't fair.
I would say leave it in the calendar as it is! Tough as you like. 362 km on the second day? Savage, but then, it will become an event in the annuals of endurance history rather than (yet another) mollycoddled Audax. That's not saying mollycoddled is a bad thing, but there are loads of, erm, less-savage events for people that want them (LEL, for example). This sounds like the kind of stuff of legends. Inspiring, limit pushing and tear-causing.
Some struggle with inspiration to finish unless there is a reputation of nastiness to fight. Really tough endurance events are in demand and it sounds like this is one for the calendar.
Please keep it! Events like this will do the reputation of Audax the world of good!
I would say I wish I had been there this year, but I'd be lying haha. ;D
Just reading through this, it sounds like a properly tough event test to sort the men from the boys and hard wimmin from the girls.
I'm not sure about the bed thing, I never got a bed when I did Blacksheeps 600 last year, but I was so knackard the hard floor was fine, as was my drop bag as a pillow. The faster guys get the beds, and have time to sleep - that's life, right. It is what it is, life isn't fair.
I would say leave it in the calendar as it is! Tough as you like. 362 km on the second day? Savage, but then, it will become an event in the annuals of endurance history rather than (yet another) mollycoddled Audax. That's not saying mollycoddled is a bad thing, but there are loads of, erm, less-savage events for people that want them (LEL, for example). This sounds like the kind of stuff of legends. Inspiring, limit pushing and tear-causing.
Some struggle with inspiration to finish unless there is a reputation of nastiness to fight. Really tough endurance events are in demand and it sounds like this is one for the calendar.
Please keep it! Events like this will do the reputation of Audax the world of good!
I would say I wish I had been there this year, but I'd be lying haha. ;D
After that lot, I fancy a bit of TLC, and I've entered the National 400 in the hope of waitresses bringing food to me, a three-course meal at every control, dancing girls and Pete serenading me to sleep with his harmonica (well, maybe not that last bit).
There isn't anything better than a shite chip shop in Lockerbie, you probably did quite well. In fact not in either if the "three L's of doom" - Lockerbie Langholm and Longtown... (blooming depressing trio of places if you ask me) - the best thing in the area is Gretna servicesI don't think there was anything wrong with the geography of the route. Although stage 2, at 362 km, might have seemed a bit too far for some riders, many riders arrived back at Askrigg between 10:00 pm & 01:00 am. If the event runs again, I'd likely shorten stage 2 and make up the distance on stage 4.
Andy Corless
For what it's worth, my opinion is that day 2 was a long day for sure. But not excessive, despite some tricky weather conditions.
Clearly the day started very hard, the section to Stanhope in particular is savage. Once at Lockerbie, it was a reasonably easy run back towards base along good faster roads.
What appears to have done for some, and was certainly a lower point for me was the controlling options at Kielder, and to a lesser extent Lockerbie (bad choice of chip shop for me). Maybe I should have read up a little more on options, but the shop was an interesting place and the lack of shelter made it not the best control at the time. It sounds like the pub and the forestry visitors centres were both options. I think I could have done with a sit down at that point, and certainly some hot food/drink!
Part of the appeal of the control location was that it is the most remote village in the world or something. I was surprised to not see a blind boy playing a banjo to be honest.
I am not sure what the answer is, as clearly, a village hall control would require more people and money. But certainly, I would investigate alternative options more closely if I were riding again. I probably should have stopped at the cafe at Newcastleton in hindsight, though whatever was eaten there, may have reappeared on that climb into the wind!
None of it is intended as criticism as given better weather, it probably would not have been such an issue, but in poor weather, it was just at the point where the thought of going further away from base might become unpalatable.
I actually really liked the pacing of the ride. The shorter day 1 (particularly with that tailwind!) meant you kept your powder reasonably dry for a tough day 2 and then a reasonably short (but very difficult) day 3 before a short victory lap on day 4.
Just reading through this, it sounds like a properly tough event test to sort the men from the boys and hard wimmin from the girls.
Could I have finished? I was in Langholm at about 7pm so I guess 3am finish for the day was possible.
So my analysis is that the route was hard and for me too hard to feel I could endure for the whole ride.
Is the route suitable? Without doubt YES! I for one only entered this ride because it was a challenge. Sometimes you get round and this time I did not.
Would I enter again? Yes.
Would I ride it next year? The way I currently feel no.
Great weekend, Great ride. Keep turning out the great routes Andy.
Same here.Just reading through this, it sounds like a properly tough event test to sort the men from the boys and hard wimmin from the girls.
it wasn't the difficulty that attracted me to the event, it was an opportunity to ride a load of new places in the N of England
Just been looking at the route and cross referencing it with the 2 x 100 cycling climbs book. By my reckoning we did these,
Whinlatter Pass
Burn Edge
Hardknott Pass
The Stang
Crawleyside
Egton High Moor
Rosedale Chimney
I’ve not included Wrynose as the book has it ascended from the East and we came from the West where it is much shorter. Have I missed any?
Just been looking at the route and cross referencing it with the 2 x 100 cycling climbs book. By my reckoning we did these,
Whinlatter Pass
Burn Edge
Hardknott Pass
The Stang
Crawleyside
Egton High Moor
Rosedale Chimney
I’ve not included Wrynose as the book has it ascended from the East and we came from the West where it is much shorter. Have I missed any?
On balance I'd say we had enough climbing :hand:
You should've said that was your game - Saturday morning, there was actually a dogleg out to Reeth which missed this beastie (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=398801&y=498513&z=115&sv=398801,498513&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=689&ax=398801&ay=498513&lm=0).
I'm pretty sure it is in the list, but I don't think anyone took that particular shortcut ;D
I'd probably have ducked into a hotel at 10pm,
Just been looking at the route and cross referencing it with the 2 x 100 cycling climbs book. By my reckoning we did these,
Whinlatter Pass
Burn Edge
Hardknott Pass
The Stang
Crawleyside
Egton High Moor
Rosedale Chimney
I have of course spoken with some of the riders that were DNF and all seemed to want to give the event another go. With this in mind, I'm considering a re-run of the event next year, but only for those that were DNS/DNF.
That's great thanks Andy, this is business I want to finish! Now I know the route, I know where I went wrong and how to improve enough to get the result. It really boils down to a simple case of HTFU. I'd try again tomorrow if I could - at least the weather's improved! Bring it on :thumbsup:
I just noticed over on FB that there will be a re-run 7-10 July next year :)
I just noticed over on FB that there will be a re-run 7-10 July next year :)
I just noticed over on FB that there will be a re-run 7-10 July next year :)
Will that just be for theweak pathetic excuses for humans that quit last timepeople who did not make it around last time? ;)
Not that I need another go around, but might be an interesting mid-season option if my plans for next year work out.
For avoidance of doubt, I have nothing but respect for anyone that was even at the start line of this event.
For avoidance of doubt, I have nothing but respect for anyone that was even at the start line of this event.Marcus - anyone who has met you knows what you meant. Only people with a fragile ego and no humour would have taken offence.
Will that just be for the weak pathetic excuses for humans that quit last time people who did not make it around last time?
The event will be open to all cyclists, including non-AUK members, in accordance with AUK regulations. The event should be appearing in the AUK calendar shortly.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines
There were better feeding options on or just off the route - for example, I spotted the entrance to Gretna Services, which isn't far past Lockerbie and has a massive food court where you can get a bucket of KFC, a vat of coffee etc, but the entrance is an unremarkable gap in a hedge, so you would never know it was there unless you'd been before.
Like Aidan, I'd be happy to help with arranging for local cafes or putting together a crib sheet of facilities on or close to the route. And I did tell Andy that I'd volunteer if he runs it again next year.
Don't stop at a pub!
Unfinished business to settle...I'm in :thumbsup:
"Unfinished business to settle...I'm in"
"As a DNS last time, unfinished business as well..
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Lovely rolling terrain over the high ground on the last day
There's a railway station at Garsdale Head, so getting to Wensleydale by public transport is possible.I did wonder this myself, about the start location, but we do not know the limitations on booking venues, trying to find over 100 bed spaces in Askrigg could be a challenge, but in Blackpool no problem.
I did wonder when looking at the event, if it wouldn't be a better idea to just have the Askrigg control as start/finish, as that would do away with bag drops, and the attendant problems of getting those bags back to a start/finish. In an ideal world the control would also be near a 24 Hour supermarket.
Hello all. Been looking at potential events for 2017 on the ElliptiGO. It was a toss up between this and LEL. I like a challenge and love Andy Corless routes. Pendle600 stripped me to my core (DNF with only 50k remaining), and finished over time on Heartbeat400 this year. So I figure MP1K finish will wipe the slate clear and I might actually finish an Andy Corless event!! Here's hoping 3rd time lucky :-D. Let the training begin! I might even have to get myself in a wind tunnel having read about the conditions experienced this year.
There's a railway station at Garsdale Head, so getting to Wensleydale by public transport is possible.I did wonder this myself, about the start location, but we do not know the limitations on booking venues, trying to find over 100 bed spaces in Askrigg could be a challenge, but in Blackpool no problem.
I did wonder when looking at the event, if it wouldn't be a better idea to just have the Askrigg control as start/finish, as that would do away with bag drops, and the attendant problems of getting those bags back to a start/finish. In an ideal world the control would also be near a 24 Hour supermarket.
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You're not gonah ride the whole beast are you Andy?
Imagine that fucker in Winter :demon:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Lovely rolling terrain over the high ground on the last day
Hungry...Ah yes a conversation is coming back to me, something about having a light year and not cycling that much ....
The >50% DNF rate should inform you about how tough this was.
I must have been on a different ride. There was some rain, but not enough to make anyone pack. Showers on day 1 and some persistent rain on the way to Keilder. But I did not consider it bad.The >50% DNF rate should inform you about how tough this was.
we did have rather extreme weather conditions last year, which probably accounted for many (half?) of the DNFs
I must have been on a different ride. There was some rain, but not enough to make anyone pack. Showers on day 1 and some persistent rain on the way to Keilder. But I did not consider it bad.
BB
It was the hills, quantity and quality that did for me. This year will be different ....I must have been on a different ride. There was some rain, but not enough to make anyone pack. Showers on day 1 and some persistent rain on the way to Keilder. But I did not consider it bad.
BB
The worst was on day 2, and I think that's when most quitters packed including me. ISTR two riders reported being blown right off their bikes that day. I packed because by 4pm I'd only covered 150km and the choice of same again plus a bit to finish that day by around 6am on day 3, or cosy B&B with pub dinner, was a bit of a no-brainer for a lightweight like me.
this ride is so scary but still appealling, which of the following is trueIf you do not enter you will never know.
I shouldn't enter, leave it to those who are more capable.
Or
go for it, attempting something that may be beyond me is the definition of audacious
?
I didn't train for it last year (was it a gold or silver grimpeur award?), as I thought it would be easier than MC2. I only got round through sheer stubbornness!I think my training plan is February AAANFRACTIOUS diy March the Dean April Lndon Wales Lindon. May BCM June ??? Maybe just lots of hill repeat sessions.
I didn't train for it last year (was it a gold or silver grimpeur award?), as I thought it would be easier than MC2. I only got round through sheer stubbornness!
Whilst out riding the Mere 200 last Sunday I was asked by several riders if entries were still being taken. The answer is yes!
Andy Corless
Event Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Made even tougher when the fast ones get the best beds, camping mats, or even blankets. Being a full value, watch the scenery go by, rider, has its disadvantages!I didn't train for it last year (was it a gold or silver grimpeur award?), as I thought it would be easier than MC2. I only got round through sheer stubbornness!
It's a tough old ride that's for sure
I've had a couple of queries over the weekend asking whether or not entries are still open. The answer is yes!
Everyone who completed last year's edition should by now have received their brevet card and medal. The commemorative waterbottle and T-shirt should be following shortly.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
"Whoops - entry just in"
I have your entry - there aren't many left!
Andy Corless
Just wondering - anyone know the controls we're visting this year ?
Just wondering - anyone know the controls we're visting this year ?
Just found this -
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14297233
Updated by the owner two days ago. No idea if this is Andy or his route helper so TREAT WITH EXTREME CAUTION. ABSOLUTELY UNOFFICIAL I need to plan now so I'm just going to use it as a rough guide until the official version is declared.
Just wondering - anyone know the controls we're visting this year ?
Just found this -
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14297233
Updated by the owner two days ago. No idea if this is Andy or his route helper so TREAT WITH EXTREME CAUTION. ABSOLUTELY UNOFFICIAL I need to plan now so I'm just going to use it as a rough guide until the official version is declared.
Yes, I'd seen that too Smeth. I noticed that it still had Askgrigg as the sleep stop so I was taking it as a rough guide only. That's why I was wondering about controls. Whatever happens, it's a good foundation for crafting a route when we get the routesheet.
All noted thanks. Just had a message back from originator - Andy's said route out by Thursday/Friday. Feel a bit of a pain but I'm a plan-aholic. :facepalm:
has been updated today to use Sedbergh :thumbsup:
Just found this -
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14297233
Updated by the owner two days ago. No idea if this is Andy or his route helper so TREAT WITH EXTREME CAUTION. ABSOLUTELY UNOFFICIAL I need to plan now so I'm just going to use it as a rough guide until the official version is declared.
I've recently volunteered as a helper at the central control - I think you're safe to plan that it will be Sedbergh ;D
On the plus side, there is a full moon for most of the night!You do not see the moon most nights up north.
[@Stu: we can all get GPS files from the ridewithgps page that you're looking at, created by the event team (I think). If you don't know how to do that for your particular device, it's probably one for the GPS sub-board.
Oh, and Don't Panic! :)
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On the plus side, there is a full moon for most of the night!You do not see the moon most nights up north.
[@Stu: we can all get GPS files from the ridewithgps page that you're looking at, created by the event team (I think). If you don't know how to do that for your particular device, it's probably one for the GPS sub-board.
Oh, and Don't Panic! :)
]
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I have been asked to post this from the originator of the RwGPS link of the ‘possible' route. This route is not produced by the MP 'team' but is based on last year's and details Andy had previously shared months ago (new control locations at Barnard Castle, Lanehead, Langholm, Ripon) and very, very recently the revelation of Sedbergh as the 'central control' as opposed to Askrigg. He has used Andy's new distances and get the same first and last day's and total as the MP site /Route tab advertises, but the 359km for Day 2 (2 more than last year btw) is not the same, and Day 3 is longer (than the MP site detail) if via Ripon. It may be that Andy's gone back to using Thirsk as the control W of NYMoors in which case another tranche of km on Day 2 is needed. Perhaps the route will go back to going us right over to Lockerbie again and then straight down the A6 via Shap to Sedbergh but the MP site still says 'via the Eden valley' in the amended text so that’s taken (on the ‘possible’ route) as via Kirkby Stephen.
Thanks Ian. Whoever posted that route put a lot of effort into it, what with the intermediate distances and sun/moon rise/set times!Are you in for this one Matt?
(Somewhat frustrating to still be waiting for the route outline with just 9 days to go before a 4-day ride. Hey-ho ... )
Are you in for this one Matt?Indeed! Travelling up with "fast Will" (currently leading our club points tally). I don't expect to ride the whole 1000; I may skip the East Coast section, or if the weather is bad I may skip the Hardknott loop - already ridden that once, and don't fancy the descents if damp.
I'm curious.... Is anyone riding the Pendle600 this weekend as well!?!? :o if so you're completely nuts!!! I had thought about it (for about 1/2 second!)
For 2016 riders:Andy set a limit last year and everyone ignored it. I will be taking one bag and as long as it is not a 90l monster sack you will be fine. I will be doing my usual minimalist thing with as little as possible.
Did Andy have any guidelines/limits on drop-bags?
(Not sure whether to pack the foot-spa ... )
I have changed the thread title to reflect this years ride. Time for a roll call -
Bianchi Boy
Laid Back Rich
Please add your names.
Also I will be in Blackpool on Thursday night and last year there was a meeting at the Spoons by the tower.
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool (https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool)
Anybody up for a meet up there on Thursday night? They do food till late and it is easy to find.
BB
BTW, as it seems like all the train routes from the London area to Blackpool with bicycle spaces are fully booked (or am I wrong?), do any of you have any tips on other ways to get there besides driving?
Hi All, has anybody received the route sheet yet? just checking in case i haven't received it for some reason.
Thanks for all the tips regarding train booking! I'll give it another try now.Might be worth reading this before you try on the VTEC site:
Thanks for all the tips regarding train booking! I'll give it another try now.Might be worth reading this before you try on the VTEC site:
http://road.cc/content/news/225264-virgin-trains-east-coast-%E2%80%98working-%E2%80%99-online-cycle-reservations
Final version should be e-mailed before Tuesday evening.
Andy Corless
I am sure there will be some crowd sourcing on this. I have the complete tracks from last year. Looks like much will be reused.Final version should be e-mailed before Tuesday evening.
Andy Corless
Andy, will you be issuing a gpx track? Or a link to an online version of the route where a track can be downloaded from? I don't use paper sheets as I cant read them at night and haven't got a hope in hell of creating a gpx from a route sheet in the time before the event.
Thanks :)
I am sure there will be some crowd sourcing on this. I have the complete tracks from last year. Looks like much will be reused.Final version should be e-mailed before Tuesday evening.
Andy Corless
Andy, will you be issuing a gpx track? Or a link to an online version of the route where a track can be downloaded from? I don't use paper sheets as I cant read them at night and haven't got a hope in hell of creating a gpx from a route sheet in the time before the event.
Thanks :)
Here is the track I did last year. I hope to be able to do a similar job given that there should be limited changes.
http://www.gpxeditor.co.uk/routes2/users/SteveFerry/MP1000 (http://www.gpxeditor.co.uk/routes2/users/SteveFerry/MP1000)
BB
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Right, a couple of people have asked me about the route, and about good eatin' along the way, so I've tweaked the RWGPS route posted above with some personal preferences of routes:
Eskdale - there are a couple of pubs before you go over Hardknott, including the Eskdale Inn, which does coffee and snacks as well as full-on meals, but I'd probably just eat earlier. But there's nowt else on route until Skelwith Bridge.
One of this year's entrants has asked me to post this:-This earlier passed on by Ian casts a little doubt on controls/route for day 2 and hence other days. Andy has obviously been working hard to bounce back from losing Hawes. I'm going to wait until he gets the sheet out before finalising anything. The originator can't do any more with it as he's travelling tomorrow am. Thanks all concerned for efforts so far.QuoteI have been asked to post this from the originator of the RwGPS link of the ‘possible' route. This route is not produced by the MP 'team' but is based on last year's and details Andy had previously shared months ago (new control locations at Barnard Castle, Lanehead, Langholm, Ripon) and very, very recently the revelation of Sedbergh as the 'central control' as opposed to Askrigg. He has used Andy's new distances and get the same first and last day's and total as the MP site /Route tab advertises, but the 359km for Day 2 (2 more than last year btw) is not the same, and Day 3 is longer (than the MP site detail) if via Ripon. It may be that Andy's gone back to using Thirsk as the control W of NYMoors in which case another tranche of km on Day 2 is needed. Perhaps the route will go back to going us right over to Lockerbie again and then straight down the A6 via Shap to Sedbergh but the MP site still says 'via the Eden valley' in the amended text so that’s taken (on the ‘possible’ route) as via Kirkby Stephen.
(he's having difficulty joining YACF, if anyone can assist).
Deno,
Great work. On day 2 I thought we were turning at Langholm and not Locherbie?
Thanks
BB
Day 4On that subject ...
You're on your own as it's the wrong side of the hills for me, but there are loads of places to get grub, and you can nip into Kirkby Lonsdale if you're desperate. I would point out that one rider (Paul Cre) rode straight through on Sunday night last year, and at the time I thought "What a fucking idiot", but after dealing with the crazy trucks on the A683 round Caton, then Monday morning rush hour in Lancaster, I kinda thought he might have done the right thing.
I'll be helping at Sedbergh at some point, anyway, so I'll hopefullyget to point and laughsee you lot.
Kielder - as well as the village shop (which doesn't stock much), there's a little shop at the garage on the main road (I think they do coffee), and the pub, which is farther off the route.
One of this year's entrants has asked me to post this:-This earlier passed on by Ian casts a little doubt on controls/route for day 2 and hence other days. Andy has obviously been working hard to bounce back from losing Hawes. I'm going to wait until he gets the sheet out before finalising anything. The originator can't do any more with it as he's travelling tomorrow am. Thanks all concerned for efforts so far.QuoteI have been asked to post this from the originator of the RwGPS link of the ‘possible' route. This route is not produced by the MP 'team' but is based on last year's and details Andy had previously shared months ago (new control locations at Barnard Castle, Lanehead, Langholm, Ripon) and very, very recently the revelation of Sedbergh as the 'central control' as opposed to Askrigg. He has used Andy's new distances and get the same first and last day's and total as the MP site /Route tab advertises, but the 359km for Day 2 (2 more than last year btw) is not the same, and Day 3 is longer (than the MP site detail) if via Ripon. It may be that Andy's gone back to using Thirsk as the control W of NYMoors in which case another tranche of km on Day 2 is needed. Perhaps the route will go back to going us right over to Lockerbie again and then straight down the A6 via Shap to Sedbergh but the MP site still says 'via the Eden valley' in the amended text so that’s taken (on the ‘possible’ route) as via Kirkby Stephen.
(he's having difficulty joining YACF, if anyone can assist).
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Day 4On that subject ...
You're on your own as it's the wrong side of the hills for me, but there are loads of places to get grub, and you can nip into Kirkby Lonsdale if you're desperate. I would point out that one rider (Paul Cre) rode straight through on Sunday night last year, and at the time I thought "What a fucking idiot", but after dealing with the crazy trucks on the A683 round Caton, then Monday morning rush hour in Lancaster, I kinda thought he might have done the right thing.
I'll be helping at Sedbergh at some point, anyway, so I'll hopefullyget to point and laughsee you lot.
What facilities will there be at Start/Arrivee? (if any!)
last year there was a meeting at the Spoons by the tower.
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool (https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/lancashire/the-albert-and-the-lion-blackpool)
Anybody up for a meet up there on Thursday night? They do food till late and it is easy to find.
BB
P.S. Matt, you'll be happy to know that we now have a working handbrake for the journey up to Bipsham :)To be honest, there are so many unknowns for me to fret about, I'd delegated that worry to you!
One of this year's entrants has asked me to post this:-QuoteI have been asked to post this from the originator of the RwGPS link of the ‘possible' route. This route is not produced by the MP 'team' but is based on last year's and details Andy had previously shared months ago (new control locations at Barnard Castle, Lanehead, Langholm, Ripon) and very, very recently the revelation of Sedbergh as the 'central control' as opposed to Askrigg. He has used Andy's new distances and get the same first and last day's and total as the MP site /Route tab advertises, but the 359km for Day 2 (2 more than last year btw) is not the same, and Day 3 is longer (than the MP site detail) if via Ripon. It may be that Andy's gone back to using Thirsk as the control W of NYMoors in which case another tranche of km on Day 2 is needed. Perhaps the route will go back to going us right over to Lockerbie again and then straight down the A6 via Shap to Sedbergh but the MP site still says 'via the Eden valley' in the amended text so that’s taken (on the ‘possible’ route) as via Kirkby Stephen.
(he's having difficulty joining YACF, if anyone can assist).
Have (at last) received Andy's MP1000 route sheet, for 66 hours time.
I have updated the RwGPS file iaw routesheet (turn south at Langholm not Lockerbie - thank goodness) which I suggest would now be worth sharing. Also as per routesheet I've changed the route to Buttertubs and Low Row / Crinkly Bottom climb to Arkengarthdale, and used the A170 and A61 through Thirsk to Ripon (as opposed to minor roads via Coxwold) and finally routed riders back along the A588 for the final hour (as opposed to minor roads - way out route). I cannot see other changes - maybe there are some.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14297233
All usual caveat user(?) warnings apply.
If you feel able to, please post on yacf.
is anyone here staying at the premier inn in Bispham on Thursday and planning to eat there? we had a decent dinner there last year
Event information and route sheet are in the process of being e-mailed to all entrants. A couple of distance errors have just become apparent which are being corrected.
Andy Corless
It's just been realised that the control closing times for some of the controls printed on the route-sheet are incorrect. The opening times, controls and distances are correct, just some of the closing times. I'll correct them tomorrow.
Andy Corless
Day 4On that subject ...
You're on your own as it's the wrong side of the hills for me, but there are loads of places to get grub, and you can nip into Kirkby Lonsdale if you're desperate. I would point out that one rider (Paul Cre) rode straight through on Sunday night last year, and at the time I thought "What a fucking idiot", but after dealing with the crazy trucks on the A683 round Caton, then Monday morning rush hour in Lancaster, I kinda thought he might have done the right thing.
I'll be helping at Sedbergh at some point, anyway, so I'll hopefullyget to point and laughsee you lot.
What facilities will there be at Start/Arrivee? (if any!)
[...] if you arrive back at the Bispham HQ during the Sunday night or in the early hours of Monday morning you’ll be able to rest/sleep at no extra charge if you don’t feel like driving home afterwards
weather looking better than last year :)
http://www.weatherbagel.com/f/304625da-e7b5-4748-9cee-770ef7552679
this is for full value riders
weather looking better than last year :)I almost wish I was doing it again, but it's a return to the Buzzard for me; no train or car required!
http://www.weatherbagel.com/f/304625da-e7b5-4748-9cee-770ef7552679
this is for full value riders
weather looking better than last year :)Looks like fitting my mudguards has had an effect.
http://www.weatherbagel.com/f/304625da-e7b5-4748-9cee-770ef7552679
this is for full value riders
Right, a couple of people have asked me about the route, and about good eatin' along the way, so I've tweaked the RWGPS route posted above with some personal preferences of routes:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22754388
Now updated with the control at Langholm rather than Lockerbie (05/07/17)
I've split the GPX into the 4 stages using Bike Hike, files can be downloaded using links below:
Stage 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1b4azbeeldl9an/mp_1.gpx?dl=0
Stage 2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3i6ki7o7hbvsd3n/mp_2.gpx?dl=0
Stage 3: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujguioyvhxneu33/mp_3.gpx?dl=0
Stage 4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhr83qcgk6xl8lt/mp_4.gpx?dl=0
Right, a couple of people have asked me about the route, and about good eatin' along the way, so I've tweaked the RWGPS route posted above with some personal preferences of routes:
Day 1: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22823845
Day 2: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22824534
Day 3: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22825091
Day 4: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22825433
Now updated with the control at Langholm and split at Sedbergh into 4 days (05/07/17)
If anyone wants to keep track, the changes to the h'official route are as follows (also listed on each track:(click to show/hide)
And onto the food.
TOP TIP - eat in Keswick rather than at Whinlatter (the cafe was absolutely rammed last year - you can just get a stamp for PoP at the Whinlatter visitor's centre).
There's a tiny village shop/cafe in Lorton as well, which is good for a coffee and a cake or some snacks.
Kirkstile Inn at Loweswater - good for bottle top-ups, but only worth stopping to eat if you have the time for a proper sit-down meal.
Gosforth village before Seascale has a very well-stocked village shop, including a coffee machine. Would recommend calling in here and just getting a receipt at Seascale (http://www.thevillagestoregosforth.co.uk/ - I'm not sure the cafe is actually open, but it's a couple of years since I was last there) .
Seascale - large-ish Co Op before you drop to the sea and a takeaway opposite, or a crappy McColl's on the front. Just snacks and supermarket food. Also public toilets on the front.
Eskdale - there are a couple of pubs before you go over Hardknott, including the Eskdale Inn, which does coffee and snacks as well as full-on meals, but I'd probably just eat earlier. But there's nowt else on route until Skelwith Bridge.
Once you're into Ambleside, there are plenty of choices around Windermere, Kendal and so on.
Day Two
Hawes - not likely to be much open early in the morning apart from newsagents - or an ATM if you're dead early.
Barnard Castle - the butcher's opposite to Costa opens early, and does a decent bacon sandwich. Costa might be open by the time you get there.
Stanhope - there's a Co Op and a cafe next to it, but the cafe at the Dales Tourist Centre is much better (opens at 9).
Above Stanhope there's Parkhead Station Cafe: http://www.parkheadstation.co.uk/tea-rooms.php
(I'm not sure of the opening times, but you could give them a call and just get a receipt in Stanhope before riding up Crawleyside to the cafe - it says 3 miles from Stanhope, and there's a board at the cafe for writing your time up Crawleyside. Don't expect this to be a quick 3 miles)
Blanchland - there's a shop and a decent cafe, but I wouldn't bother stopping unless you're on your knees. Hexham isn't that far, and this is probably the toughest section where you can lose the most time. N.B. the Waitrose at Hexham does NOT have a cafe, if anyone from down south is hankering after a taste of home.
Wark has a handy village shop.
Bellingham is just off route and there's a Co Op, a few cafes, a bakery and a bike shop.
Falstone - cafe in the old school. Just off route, and can be a good stop before slogging into the headwind over Kielder.
Kielder Reservoir - There's a nice cafe at the Tower Knowe Visitor Centre about 10-15 km before the village stores, they didn't seem to mind that we were oozing water all over the floor https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tower+Knowe+Visitor+Centre/@55.174844,-2.4751189,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x83c142965f854792!8m2!3d55.174844!4d-2.4751189. (thanks Jon for reminding me! I think there are public loos here as well)
Kielder control - as well as the village shop (which doesn't stock much), there's a little shop at the garage on the main road (I think they do coffee), and the pub, which is farther off the route.
Top tip - I'd just get a receipt at Kielder for PoP and ride the 20-25 km to Newcastleton and go to...
Copshaw Kitchen - excellent home cooked food. Open till five I think, and worth stopping. Steve and I stopped there last year after just getting a bar of chocolate for PoP at Kielder. If running late, call to check opening times (013873 75250) - they're pretty friendly and would probably stay open a little bit if they knew you were coming, as they offered to do just this last year when I mentioned the ride to them.
EDIT: someone has called them and they're open until 8 on Saturday night.
Newcastleton also has a couple of shops and hotels, so it's well-provisioned.
There's not a lot in Langholm Longtown or Lockerbie (another reason to stop at Newcastleton) - a quick garage stop, or pizza shop is about as good as it gets.Gretna Services - I noticed we passed this on the road from Lockerbie to Carlisle. You'll miss it if you don't know it's there, but on the B7076 between Kirkpatrick Fleming and Gretna, there is a secret entrance to the right in the hedge which takes you to the M'Way Services:
https://goo.gl/maps/995u2cZkPqR2
It's a proper motorway services with proper Motorway prices. But if you want a bucket of KFC, it's your lad.
Above removed as the route doesn't pass Gretna Services. I don't think there's much on the A7 from Langholm to Langtoon and Carlisle, but if anyone knows different, shout up.
Farther on, there's a McDonald's on the A7 in Carlisle, and obviously loads of options in Carlisle itself.
Don't try the McDonald's in Penrith if it's late as it's drive-thru only and they won't let you order on a bike. Last year, they wouldn't even let someone in a car order for us "cos I can still see them". FFS.
Tebay J38 services - the route passes the M'way services (on the right just before the A685 roundabout), and this is a pretty good option if you need something get you the last 10 miles or so to Sedbergh. The shop on the forecourt is 24-hour, and comes with a coffee machine.
Day 3
The control at Yarm is probably going to be the garage - if you take the right after the roundabout, though, there's a decent cafe at Kirklevington Prison. No, really. Ask at the counter for their "Just Visiting" stamp*.
Castleton - there's a Co Op and a cafe at the old school. The route also passes the National Park Centre at Danby, but I'd expect that to be rammed on Sunday afternoon. Either of those should get you to the control at RHB (which is a decent chippy).
After Robin Hood's Bay, there's not much on the route - a couple of pubs in Egton Bridge, or you can nip into Grosmont. After Egton Bridge there's nowt until Rosedale. You can top your bottles at one of the pubs or the campsite in Rosedale, and there are cafes and shop if you're early enough.
I wouldn't bother stopping in Hutton-le-Hole, but Kirkbymoorside is a good place to stop, with a couple of shops and takeaways to break up the long section to Ripon.
After Helmsley (loads of options), there's unlikely to be anything open except pubs, though there are plenty of those.
Ripon - if it's late, the 24-hour garage on North Street is likely to be the only thing open. There's nothing else 24-hour on the route, and it's a long way yet to Sedbergh. If it is early enough, there's a Costa and loads of stuff but you'll have to ride into town.
Masham - there's a Co Op open late on Sunday evening, and obviously plenty of pubs. I'd recommend the White Bear at the Black Sheep Brewery, which is signposted from the route.
I can't think of anything opening late up Wensleydale or Garsdale. Stock up at Ripon!
Day 4
You're on your own as it's the wrong side of the hills for me, but there are loads of places to get grub, and you can nip into Kirkby Lonsdale if you're desperate. I would point out that one rider (Paul Cre) rode straight through on Sunday night last year, and at the time I thought "What a fucking idiot", but after dealing with the crazy trucks on the A683 round Caton, then Monday morning rush hour in Lancaster, I kinda thought he might have done the right thing.
I'll be helping at Sedbergh at some point, anyway, so I'll hopefullyget to point and laughsee you lot. As ESL points out, there's a massive Spar at the western end of Sedbergh which you'll pass on day 1 at your left - great for grabbing any pocket food. EDIT: it opens 7 till 9, so it mightn't be open for many of you when you pass.
*They may not have a stamp
Good luck everyone!I second that. Been there, done that, not bought the t-shirt, not read the book, but bought the jersey, and a part of me wishes I was dreading the sufferfest again!
It was nice meeting up with some folk from this page and many more that perhaps lurk but don't post. An enjoyable weekend. I always knew it was going to be a very tall order to complete this event on the ElliptiGO but my mate Tim proved it can be done and in under 72 hours. Remarkable performance. I enjoyed my outing and finding my limits this time around. So thats 3 out of 3 DNFs/out of time on AC events (Pendle/Heartbeat/MP). Will I keep coming back until I finish one. Probably but not making an decisions now. If AC does a 200K I might be tempted and I could even bring a proper bike :-D
"too soft to finish last year's event in near apocalyptic/biblical conditions"
"James the fast" had a bit of a South African twang, but claims he comes from Kent, rolled in hours ahead of the next riders with broccoli and beer!
The question of the contribution of the weather to last years abandons was raised a number of times. It did rain with short down pours on the first day and for a few hours between Hexham and Kielder on the second. The wind was strong on some sections, but overall not a problem. I do not remember the biblical weather that people mention .....
Dean Clementson (Deano), some readers will have guessed from the location of said footwear repairs that I followed your advice for the route. I also made use of some of your food suggestions, so thanks. Sadly I couldn’t try the Copshaw Kitchen in Newcastleton as I arrived around 20:30, after closing. Also for your gift of time and effort to man the pumps and kettles, etc. at Sedbergh, along with the other volunteers. I spoke to Steve, Martin and John (I hope your knee recovers), no doubt I have missed many of you: I’m grateful for your assistance.
The final few miles to Sedbergh were horrendous and probably when I decided to pack. We followed the Garmin, where we should've followed the route sheet which would have taken us via main roads and not minuscule, gravel strewn steep lanes. What should've taken 30 minutes took well over an hour and I was ruined on rolling into control at 2320.
Deano, wish I'd met you to thank you in person for the fantastic route and eating tips listed above. That prison cafe was so good (great VFM, fast and friendly service, lovely setting...yes really!) that I told Andy it should IMH be the official control for Yarm, with garage for back-up control when cafe is closed.
It was my first experience of volunteering at a multi-day event and I took a lot of satisfaction from helping to keep the show on the road. It gives an even greater appreciation of the hard work Organisers put in for these events. I think it's fair to say that the additional help of Andreas and his wife doing sterling work in the kitchen on Friday night, plus Steve and John throughout the weekend, made a real difference for Andy and the rest of the team. Thanks all!Thanks Swiss Hat and the whole team. So many miles and events between you, you will know our gratitude. The feeling of care when you are handed the very thing you didn't know you wanted yet, when you can hardly string coherent worms together. Great.
Although not riding over the w/e I DIYed to/from the event with lightweight camping gear so still got out on my bike ;D
Although not riding over the w/e I DIYed to/from the event with lightweight camping gear so still got out on my bike ;D
... when you can hardly string coherent worms together.
are 'coherent worms' some Audax lingo I've not learn't yet
Hi all, took me a little while to get a YACF account set up. I rode most of this on my own but the highlights were chatting with others at the controls and along the way. I definitely need to get back to Yorkshire more often, the scenery was stunning.
If anyone is interested, I've written up my ride report here: http://www.christillapaugh.com/2017/07/millie-pennines-1000km-audax.html
Thanks to Andy for putting on the event and a massive thanks to the guys helping out in the kitchen. Those cups of tea after a long day out were a massive morale booster and the beans on toast in the morning set me up for the days ahead.
Hi all, took me a little while to get a YACF account set up. I rode most of this on my own but the highlights were chatting with others at the controls and along the way. I definitely need to get back to Yorkshire more often, the scenery was stunning.Interesting report. :thumbsup: This is a line you don't expect to see:
If anyone is interested, I've written up my ride report here: http://www.christillapaugh.com/2017/07/millie-pennines-1000km-audax.html
Thanks to Andy for putting on the event and a massive thanks to the guys helping out in the kitchen. Those cups of tea after a long day out were a massive morale booster and the beans on toast in the morning set me up for the days ahead.
Interesting report. :thumbsup: This is a line you don't expect to see:
My wife finished the MP last year and she thought I’d be ok so that was confidence boosting.
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Interesting report. :thumbsup: This is a line you don't expect to see:
My wife finished the MP last year and she thought I’d be ok so that was confidence boosting.
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Chris's wife Sarah Perkins is a bit special - in her first year of audaxing last year she got 93 points
Right now she's on 98 points, with 2.5 months to go to end of season.
Go Sarah! :thumbsup:
Interesting report. :thumbsup: This is a line you don't expect to see:
My wife finished the MP last year and she thought I’d be ok so that was confidence boosting.
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are 'coherent worms' some Audax lingo I've not learn't yet
They are now!
Hi All. I haven't caught up with everyone's updates and ride reports above yet. Its been an extremely busy week since. But here' a link to my report below. I hope it provides an insight to ElliptiGO and Audaxing. Ultimately we all face exactly the same challenges on a ride this extreme. huge congratulations to everyone that completed the Mille Pennines. Chapeau!!!
http://ultradiscostu.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/mille-pennines-1000km-audax-elliptigo.html (http://ultradiscostu.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/mille-pennines-1000km-audax-elliptigo.html)
I cannot read this blog. Am I the only one? URL cannot be reached by me.are 'coherent worms' some Audax lingo I've not learn't yet
They are now!
Coherent worms and almost in focus pictures about this stonker now available here:
https://wordpress.com/post/smethblog.wordpress.com/180
I cannot read this blog. Am I the only one? URL cannot be reached by me.are 'coherent worms' some Audax lingo I've not learn't yet
They are now!
Coherent worms and almost in focus pictures about this stonker now available here:
https://wordpress.com/post/smethblog.wordpress.com/180
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Thanks zakalwe, I can read the original link on all devices but am blundering a bit blog-wise. I'll edit the original as well.I cannot read this blog. Am I the only one? URL cannot be reached by me.are 'coherent worms' some Audax lingo I've not learn't yet
They are now!
Coherent worms and almost in focus pictures about this stonker now available here:
https://wordpress.com/post/smethblog.wordpress.com/180
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I think this is it:
https://smethblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/14/mille-pennines-2017/
Nice write-up, and it was nice to disturb your dinner of fish and chips at the services on the M40!
it was nice to bump into you both over your dinner of fish and chips at the services on the M40!
I have just checked, and I think that the ride took in no less than 7 of the hills mentioned in the '100 Greatest Hill Climbs': Winlatter, Hardknott, Wrynose, Buttertubs, Rosedale chimney, Sleights Moor, and Crawleyside.
No wonder it was tough!
How many people had knee problems on this ride? My right knee started aching toward the end of day 2, and a couple of other people mentioned the same thing... I'd be interested to know just how many knees succumbed to the hills!
I have just checked, and I think that the ride took in no less than 7 of the hills mentioned in the '100 Greatest Hill Climbs': Winlatter, Hardknott, Wrynose, Buttertubs, Rosedale chimney, Sleights Moor, and Crawleyside.
No wonder it was tough!
Did you not do The Stang over to Barnard Castle this year? That was in last year's route and also in the 100 Greatest Climbs book.
To be a little pedantic, you did Buttertubs from the wrong side for the book ;) (I've been in the Dales on holiday in June, with the book helping me plan a few painful rides).
I have just checked, and I think that the ride took in no less than 7 of the hills mentioned in the '100 Greatest Hill Climbs': Winlatter, Hardknott, Wrynose, Buttertubs, Rosedale chimney, Sleights Moor, and Crawleyside.
No wonder it was tough!
Did you not do The Stang over to Barnard Castle this year? That was in last year's route and also in the 100 Greatest Climbs book.
To be a little pedantic, you did Buttertubs from the wrong side for the book ;) (I've been in the Dales on holiday in June, with the book helping me plan a few painful rides).
Hello to everybody, this is my first post in this forum.Hi, remind me... daughter in Plymouth? If so we rode up Whinlatter together. I deserted you at the cafe and plodded on. Glad you enjoyed it and hope to see you in UK again. Sorry if mistaken identity.
I had a lovely time doing the ride (I obviously already have forgotten that I wanted to quit on the evening of day 2), everybody was nice and friendly. Thanks to Andy for all the work and thanks to all the other participants and volunteers for making this an unforgetable event. I forgot all your names, though, I am hopeless with names anyway and sleep deprivation doesn't help much either.
I am the german guy with the green Miyata with the S and S frame couplings mostly cycling on his own (because I was so slow)
In spite of a triple crankset, I had to get off the bike on the very steep climbs, so hats of to everybody who was able to ride those climbs. The good thing about pushing your bike is having a break for your muscles and knees, and you are not much slower anyway. My knees didn't hurt after the ride, and I took some pictures while pushing the bike.
I will ride a more detailed ride report with some pictures, but that's it for now.
Thanks again to everybody, I really enjoyed the ride!
Hello to everybody, this is my first post in this forum.Hi, remind me... daughter in Plymouth? If so we rode up Whinlatter together. I deserted you at the cafe and plodded on. Glad you enjoyed it and hope to see you in UK again. Sorry if mistaken identity.
I had a lovely time doing the ride (I obviously already have forgotten that I wanted to quit on the evening of day 2), everybody was nice and friendly. Thanks to Andy for all the work and thanks to all the other participants and volunteers for making this an unforgetable event. I forgot all your names, though, I am hopeless with names anyway and sleep deprivation doesn't help much either.
I am the german guy with the green Miyata with the S and S frame couplings mostly cycling on his own (because I was so slow)
In spite of a triple crankset, I had to get off the bike on the very steep climbs, so hats of to everybody who was able to ride those climbs. The good thing about pushing your bike is having a break for your muscles and knees, and you are not much slower anyway. My knees didn't hurt after the ride, and I took some pictures while pushing the bike.
I will ride a more detailed ride report with some pictures, but that's it for now.
Thanks again to everybody, I really enjoyed the ride!
Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk
Aha, sorry to hear that miyataman. I guess you and I yo-yo'd around on day 2, you seemed to be going pretty well to me. All the best anyway.Hello to everybody, this is my first post in this forum.Hi, remind me... daughter in Plymouth? If so we rode up Whinlatter together. I deserted you at the cafe and plodded on. Glad you enjoyed it and hope to see you in UK again. Sorry if mistaken identity.
I had a lovely time doing the ride (I obviously already have forgotten that I wanted to quit on the evening of day 2), everybody was nice and friendly. Thanks to Andy for all the work and thanks to all the other participants and volunteers for making this an unforgetable event. I forgot all your names, though, I am hopeless with names anyway and sleep deprivation doesn't help much either.
I am the german guy with the green Miyata with the S and S frame couplings mostly cycling on his own (because I was so slow)
In spite of a triple crankset, I had to get off the bike on the very steep climbs, so hats of to everybody who was able to ride those climbs. The good thing about pushing your bike is having a break for your muscles and knees, and you are not much slower anyway. My knees didn't hurt after the ride, and I took some pictures while pushing the bike.
I will ride a more detailed ride report with some pictures, but that's it for now.
Thanks again to everybody, I really enjoyed the ride!
Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk
Oiver was the one with the daughter in Plymouth riding the yellow bike. Oiver didn't finish the ride because of problems with his achilles tendon.
Hello to everybody, this is my first post in this forum.
I had a lovely time doing the ride (I obviously already have forgotten that I wanted to quit on the evening of day 2), everybody was nice and friendly. Thanks to Andy for all the work and thanks to all the other participants and volunteers for making this an unforgetable event. I forgot all your names, though, I am hopeless with names anyway and sleep deprivation doesn't help much either.
I am the german guy with the green Miyata with the S and S frame couplings mostly cycling on his own (because I was so slow)
In spite of a triple crankset, I had to get off the bike on the very steep climbs, so hats of to everybody who was able to ride those climbs. The good thing about pushing your bike is having a break for your muscles and knees, and you are not much slower anyway. My knees didn't hurt after the ride, and I took some pictures while pushing the bike.
I will ride a more detailed ride report with some pictures, but that's it for now.
Thanks again to everybody, I really enjoyed the ride!
Robert "Bob" Bialek also rode from Halifax to the start - and I assume he rode back afters.
The problem with back-to-back hard rides like that is stiffening up between - rather like problem those part-timers on the "Tour de France" have on Rest Days.Robert "Bob" Bialek also rode from Halifax to the start - and I assume he rode back afters.
I was chatting to Bob on the ride and was amazed he road to the start and even more amazed he did the Pendel 600 which finished 4 days before the start of this.
Well done Bob, true legend
Rich...
I knew of Bob before I started auditing through the world of caving. He co-authored a book called, 'Not for the faint hearted'. It is about the toughest caving trips in Yorkshire. He has done them all. Some of them are UTTERLY mental. I speak from experience! He is made of severely stern stuff!
Hi Arther, yes its Ralf. Of course I remember you. We cycled some time together on day 1.Hello to everybody, this is my first post in this forum.
I had a lovely time doing the ride (I obviously already have forgotten that I wanted to quit on the evening of day 2), everybody was nice and friendly. Thanks to Andy for all the work and thanks to all the other participants and volunteers for making this an unforgetable event. I forgot all your names, though, I am hopeless with names anyway and sleep deprivation doesn't help much either.
I am the german guy with the green Miyata with the S and S frame couplings mostly cycling on his own (because I was so slow)
In spite of a triple crankset, I had to get off the bike on the very steep climbs, so hats of to everybody who was able to ride those climbs. The good thing about pushing your bike is having a break for your muscles and knees, and you are not much slower anyway. My knees didn't hurt after the ride, and I took some pictures while pushing the bike.
I will ride a more detailed ride report with some pictures, but that's it for now.
Thanks again to everybody, I really enjoyed the ride!
Ralf?
Hi there, welcome to YACF.
Well done on finishing, and thanks for your cheery company on the ride.
Did you manage to get the ferry from Hull and ride home afterwards?
Arthur (chap on the black Genisis with Carradice)
It seems that 1400 km of hills; headwinds etc experienced by most on the recent LEL isn't enough for some people as I'm already receiving enquiries from LEL finishers about when can they enter the next Mille Pennines.Why did Andy have to publish this? Does he not know I have said I will NOT ride this again?
The date for next year's edition has been set for 06 - 09 July 2018! Next year's events haven't yet been published in the AUK calendar (well mine haven't anyway). Publication normally takes place sometime during August/September so I suggest that prospective entrants keep their eyes peeled on the AUK calendar (the deadline for BRM is 01 October - so it should appear before then!) http://www.aukweb.net/events/
The route will be more or less the same as the previous two editions, with a few tweaks. This will be the last MP1K for at least 2-years! There'll be no MP1K in 2019!
The event website will be updated in due course.
Andy Corless
I'm up for it again - really enjoyed this year's.
Anyone know of any other 1000k rides in the UK next year btw ? I heard that the Mille Cymru might be on again ...
I heard that the Mille Cymru might be on again ...
Anyone know of any other 1000k rides in the UK next year btw ?
Andy from Belgium told me the Borders might be run for the last time next year. The org is working on new event(s) apparently.I'm up for it again - really enjoyed this year's.
Anyone know of any other 1000k rides in the UK next year btw ? I heard that the Mille Cymru might be on again ...
I intend on riding the Border of Belgium in early September next year. I will get the ferry from Hull and ride to the start.
Dave C
The Essex 1000 will go to Wales and back. It won't just be in the east of England.
It might be worth noting that previous PBPs have had a system where riders can enter PBP earlier depending on the longest brevet they rode the previous year.
The Essex 1000 will go to Wales and back. It won't just be in the east of England.
It might be worth noting that previous PBPs have had a system where riders can enter PBP earlier depending on the longest brevet they rode the previous year.
Certainly worth noting - though the chances of a mere 600k being insufficient to get a place are extremely thin.
with photos.Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
Crikey no flies on some people. First entries in within an hour of it going into the calendar. 8)Recidivists??
Which rider were you? The small picture in your profile doesn' ring a bell.with photos.Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
I mistook you for a guy I met in Scotland. Ti Enigma bike.Which rider were you? The small picture in your profile doesn' ring a bell.with photos.Great write up thanks. You were right. Google translate was hilarious. Love the idea of drinking tea "gallonweise". Our paths crossed several times. On that tough day 2.
unfortunately in German, but google translate might give some entertainment. :)
https://zonencross.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/millepennines-2017/
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?
Mulling over an entry....
Does that mean going down Hardknott? Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?
Mulling over an entry....
Does that mean going down Hardknott? Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!
I don't think going down Hardknott that way would be any worse in the wet than heading from west to east and the descent from wrynose to cockley beck would certainly be a good deal better. It's not a deal breaker either way I just like to get the route right in my head before entering 😬Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?
Mulling over an entry....
Does that mean going down Hardknott? Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!
You always have to go down one side of Hardknott. They're both scary in the wet
I have drafted a route based on Andy's published text in the Audax UK calendar entry http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-62/
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
1004.9km + 12769m
Note that:
1) From Ambleside the 2018 route goes west across Wrynose and Hardknott Passes to Seascale (this will mean passing the 'Esk Fest' https://www.eskfest.com/ (https://www.eskfest.com/): and missing its wonderful music and, err, aroma)
2) Selects Keswick as a control as opposed to Whinlatter Pass (which is nevertheless climbed)
3) Uses Sedbergh as a control on Friday and Saturday night, but Askrigg on Sunday night (NB not certain of the last assertion as conflicting info in AC's details but the distances work for Askrigg and don't for Sedbergh)
4) From Sedbergh heads for Stanhope past the Howgills/Wild Boar Fell via Kirkby Stephen, Brough and Middleton (ie not via Hawes). There is 1400m of climb in the first 80km: which compares with 1600m of climb in 70km in 2016 (Askrigg to above Crawleyside/Stanhope) and similar in 2017 (Hawes to above Crawleyside/Stanhope).
5) Resurrects the high road across to Lockerbie (control) from Langholm (as 2016 route)
6) For the last 100km dash, leaves Askrigg and from Hawes heads SW past the iconic Ribblehead Viaduct https://www.visitcumbria.com/carlset/ribblehead-viaduct/ (https://www.visitcumbria.com/carlset/ribblehead-viaduct/) and through Ingleton (as in 2016)
Enjoy!
Has the loop out to Seascale changed direction for next year? The list of controls reads Arnside, Seascale, Keswick so assume out over Wrynose & Hardknott and back over Whinlatter?
Mulling over an entry....
Does that mean going down Hardknott? Wouldn't fancy that in the wet!
You always have to go down one side of Hardknott. They're both scary in the wet
Doing Wrynose first gives better views.I recall looking back to admire the views, perhaps to catch a glimpse of the Isle of Man ;D. The view resembled the space immediately below this text :facepalm:
Doing Wrynose first gives better views. The descent through Little Langdale is narrow and technical, so there's no opportunity to appreciate the landscape. Coming off Hardknott you get a view of the Roman fort. Dunmail Raise is also easier to do from the North.
This came through on our work email - it may be relevant for several of our number...
New Road Layout in Lancaster
The road layout in Lancaster around the one-way system at the two bridges is going to be changing for a period of roughly 6 months beginning in January 2018. One of the bridges (northbound towards Morecambe) on the A6 is going to be closed, the southbound bridge into Lancaster will become two-way, with associated changes to the road layout around Our Lady’s Catholic College and the Kingsway road junction.
It will likely cause traffic chaos in the centre of Lancaster possibly resulting in long queues. The new Bay Gateway bypass will probably be a faster way to reach Morecambe and Heysham from Junction 34 on the M6.
A map of the changes is available at the link below:
https://www.lancashirecare.nhs.uk/media/Bulletin_New_Style/11%20December%202017/Route%20map%20for%202018.pdf (https://www.lancashirecare.nhs.uk/media/Bulletin_New_Style/11%20December%202017/Route%20map%20for%202018.pdf)
In all probability this year's route will be re-routed to avoid Lancaster, with the first control at Caton rather than Arnside.And maybe avoid Lancaster on the way back too, leaving the A683 at Caton and heading through Quernmore to Cockerham, effectively retracing the route out? The distance is almost identical.
Hi Andy, the brevet card, the water bottle and the metal thingy (what's the word for it?) arrived today. Thank you very much! I have really good memories of the ride.Hi Ralf,
Unfortunately, I won't be able to ride next year. We are setting up our first 1200km brevet in Berlin this year: Berlin Wien/Vienna Berlin:
https://berlinwienberlin.wordpress.com/category/english/ (https://berlinwienberlin.wordpress.com/category/english/)
So if anybody is interested, there are cheap flights to Berlin with Uneasyjet. The website is in English and German. Registration opens end of January.
Ralf
This really appeals to me and scares me at the same time.You came into Llandovery while I was there (trying to eat).
On Saturday I did the brevet cymru, reaching 240km (new quay) at 11hrs 10mins and 300km (llandovery) at 14hrs 35 mins. Is this in line with the required fitness for potentially finishing?
The Brevet Cymru has roughly the same amount of climbing per km as the Mille Pennines but the MP1K is run at a reduced minimum average of 13.3kph.
It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted.Just entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Andy
Me too. I wonder why I do these things to myself.It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted.Just entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Andy
From the way you were going on Brevet Cymru, you'll have no problems, Simon.It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted.Just entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Andy
Thx Ajax Bay your confidence is appreciated!From the way you were going on Brevet Cymru, you'll have no problems, Simon.It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted.Just entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Andy
It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted.Just entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Andy
Guilty as charged, y'r honour...
Be good to catch with you both :)And me. Whoops!It isn't full yet - entries are still being accepted. AndyJust entered. Eeekkk...!!!
Started compiling a list of ETAs for controls/eating and been browsing Deano's excellent guide. Looking forward to getting the full route sheet and annotating it into day route cards.I took full advantage of Deano's shared knowledge and on Day 2 I ate at the station cafe above Stanhope (just before the Blanchford turn that I subsequently failed to take) and at Falstone (just before you get to Kielder reservoir), and (not on Deano's list) at a chippy (Fontanas) on the main (A6) road coming out of Carlisle, opposite ASDA.
0, BISPHAM , Hambleton , Pilling 17, R on A588 26, COCKERHAM 43, CATON 51, Over Kellet 64, MILNTHORPE , Newby Bridge 86, BOWNESS 95, AMBLESIDE , A593 to Skelwith Bridge, then 100, R to Little Langdale 106, WRYNOSE PASS 112, HARDKNOTT PASS , BOOT 121, ESKDALE GREEN (and L) 129, HOLMBROOK R + L , DRIGG 134, SEASCALE , Gosforth L on A595 142, CALDER BRIDGE and R 154, ENNERDALE BRIDGE , R onto A5086 and R 160, LAMPLUGH , LOWESWATER 172, R thro' HIGH LORTON , BRAITHWAITE 186, KESWICK 212, AMBLESIDE 219, Windermere 233, KENDAL 250, SEDBERGH 0, SEDBERGH 22, Kirkby Stephen 29, Brough 52, Middleton 73, STANHOPE 74, R $ Edmundbyers 79, L $ BLANCHLAND 88, BLANCHLAND 105, HEXHAM , L B6531 $ Heydon Br , X A66, X br (Tyne), L , Fourstones, R, R&L, SO 118, L on B6320 131, Bellingham @br, L 145, NB Falstone café (L600) 160, KIELDER 188, NEWCASTLETON, R 199, LANGHOLM 229, LOCKERBIE , SE on B7076 // M74 269, CARLISLE, A6 300, PENRITH , A6 through Shap 315, SHAP , 2.4km L $ ORTON 326, ORTON, R B6260 330, TEBAY, A685 , 6k L B6257 , 6k L A684 347, SEDBERGH 0, SEDBERGH , A684 $ Hawes , L $ ASKRIGG 33, ASKRIGG 45, REDMIRE 46.4, L $ Catt'k Garr'n 53, Join A6108 and off 62, CATTERICK G'N 66, Cross A1(M) br 67, Brompton-on-S R 70, SCORTON L&R B1263 81, R A167 L 83, L B1264 $ YARM 94, YARM (Shell or Prison Cafe) , A1044 , R $ HILTON , SEAMER 106, STOKESLEY , 3rd @ O $ Gt Ayton 107, O A173 108, R $ EASBY 112, Easby 116, KILDALE 118, 2.4 after, R @x W'DALE 122, 1/2 way down hill, L 125, CASTLETON 128, DANBY R&L(SO) 129, L $ Danby Beacon 134, L @ T Whitby 138, E on A171 148, Whitby R on A171 152, L $ R H BAY B1447 157, ROBIN HOOD'S BAY , FYLINGTHORPE 160, L on A171 S 161, R $ Ruswarp B1416 165, 2.7k L down to Littlebeck 166, R on A169, down hill and L 174, GROSMONT 176, EGTON, and L 192, ROSEDALE ABBEY 199, HUTTON-le-H 203, R on A170, after 1.3k , Kirkbymoorside (Food) 214, HELMSLEY 237, THIRSK , A61 W RIPON 254, RIPON 268, MASHAM , Leyburn 280, MIDDLEHAM , X R Ure br (Fort) , L $ WENSLEY , A684 $ Hawes 305, BAINBRIDGE, R x R Ure 313, R A684 $ SEDBERGH 336, SEDBERGH 0, SEDBERGH 17, KIRKBY LONSDALE , R+L $ Carnforth 20, WHITTINGTON 25, ARKHOLME 29, L $ HALTON 43, LANCASTER 44, R A588 55, COCKERHAM , A588 to 73, HAMBLETON , $ Fleetwood 81, BISPHAM |
I've thrown my hat into the ring for my first multi day Audax. Hoping that the return to Sedbergh each night will make this a slightly less daunting prospect than a straight out and back or a single big loop. More like 3 consecutive 300km-400km events with a bonus epilogue!
Live in Kendal so the first day is all local roads and I am familiar with the second day from Hexham back to Sedbergh. The start of the 2nd day and all of the 3rd day (if I make it that far!) will be completely new territory.
Started compiling a list of ETAs for controls/eating and been browsing Deano's excellent guide. Looking forward to getting the full route sheet and annotating it into day route cards.
Getting excited/nervous already ;D
Started compiling a list of ETAs for controls/eating and been browsing Deano's excellent guide. Looking forward to getting the full route sheet and annotating it into day route cards.I took full advantage of Deano's shared knowledge and on Day 2 Iate at the station cafe above Stanhope (just before the Blanchford turn that I subsequently failed to take) and at Falstone (just before you get to Kielder reservoir), and (not on Deano's list) at a chippy (Fontanas) on the main (A6) road coming out of Carlisle, opposite ASDA.
While you wait for the 'full routesheet', here's my effort at an abbreviated one (attached) based on this RwGPS route, which has had Andy's imprimatur: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
There are some route hacks in it (?3) - have fun spotting them.
I'll have to update it for this year once the controls have been finalised. Looks like the only changes will be start and end of day 2. Gretna Services returns!
Stage 4 is again a direct run from Sedbergh back to Bispham, but cutting out the stretch through Lancaster. Riders can opt to go via Lancaster if they wish to do so.I have just amended the (my) RwGPS route to reflect what Andy has said/implied, cutting south from Caton and retracing the route out to Cockerham, avoiding Lancaster.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
Perhaps I should adopt Flatus's mantra of just staying below 140 (HR) bpm.
Stage 4 is again a direct run from Sedbergh back to Bispham, but cutting out the stretch through Lancaster. Riders can opt to go via Lancaster if they wish to do so.I have just amended the RwGPS route to reflect what Andy has said/implied, cutting south from Caton and retracing the route out to Cockerham, avoiding Lancaster.
Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
But NB this is 'guesstimate' (Cockerham to Milnthorpe on Day 1 and Caton to Cockerham on Day 4) and riders will wish to consult "the event information and final route-sheet [which is] more or less finished" when issued.
1000km MP1K Audax
Start: Bispham (Blackpool)
Controls: Caton(43), Seascale(135), Keswick(186), Sedbergh(250), Stanhope(323), Kielder(417), Lockerbie(480), Penrith(550), Sedbergh(597), Yarm(692), Robin Hood's Bay(755), Ripon(853) and Sedbergh (933) Bispham(1013).
My pleasure. I will endeavour to amend this route with any additional information Andy shares, and note that in the 'description'
" https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995 "
Just having a lunchtime peruse of this, wanted to say thanks for compiling that route, I've copied it to my account for final amendment and splitting by day once Andy confirms the final details.
Plenty of choice going through Bowness (R@T). You don't want to go into Windermere or Ambleside - it's just wasted time.
Coop is better (imo) and there's a post office next door which have given me a nice stamp (and sold ripe bananas) the last two years. Think the 'takeaway opposite Coop' is not open anymore - wasn't last year. (I got a pizza there in '16.) Dive into Gosforth just not worth it.
Nearly all riders will be going through Kendal after 5pm so all the daytime cafes will be closed. And so will Greggs.
Easy to miss. And anyway only the very fastest riders will be there before 10pm (ie about 5 last year made Sedbergh by 9pm last year) and the start at Bispham's an hour later this year.
Riders will be through Kirkby Stephen before the shops open (at 7). If they aren't through by 6 they will not be completing Day 2 (my prediction).
Immediately after Stanhope, above Crawleyside, Parkhead Station Cafe - used last year (on Deano's recommendation) opens at 9am. Bacon and egg bap, and coffee iirc: tasty and pretty quick. Worth ringing them (01388 526434) from Stanhope if a group of riders planning to stop. And as a bonus, you're not doing the Crawleyside climb on a full stomach.
I ate here last year. Again good and quick - a few hundred metres off route.
I went to the village shop - they had run out of milk (Friday at 4pm). It is open till 5:30pm. The SPAR in Newcastleton's the next place (25km further on) and carries rather more stock - it's on the left, next to deno's "Copshaw Kitchen". Shops in Langholm and Lockerbie.
Once in Robin Hood's bay, there a village shop on the left hand side, before the drop down to the fish and chip shop
In Kirkbymoorside, the burger takeaway and shop are both right by the roundabout. Good place for assembling a group for the twilight/dark last (long) 130k to Sedbergh.
Mobile food van in the layby as you enter Kirkby Lonsdale
Is there a .gpx or .tcx file available for the route? If not is the route the same as last year so I can find it and download it from Strava?The route is not the same as last year and the changes are significant - particularly the first day and the first part of the second day (kilometres 25-213, 250-310, 448-516 (Lockerbie), 968-986) and the location in Sedbergh of the 'central' control.
I happened to be in Ripon today, and there is a Mcdonald's there - I didn't spot the opening times, but according to the internet it's open 24 hours. It's a bit of a detour as it's at the southern end of town. It's a long lonely ride to Sedbergh after that, though, so it might be your badger: https://goo.gl/maps/YrBaNTsoD352'Your badger' will need to be worth 5km extra riding to you (and I know how I felt late Saturday).
Thank you Ajax Bay for the gpx.Cracking map Sloth, thanks!!!
...I made a map: https://goo.gl/Ku31tD
looking at the weather forecast, seriously thinking about taking the mudguards off my audax rig. On a lesser event I'd be using my summer bike, but I need the lowest gearing.I am reminded of the conversation I had after waiting for a German (I think) at the top of Rosedale Chimney last year. He asserted that he found it made more sense, physically, to walk up the steepest hills (as he had been as I powered (not) up the multiple 33% hairpins a few minutes earlier).
never been so nervous about a ride
Probably a daft question, how do people set alarms to wake up in the morning without disturbing others?What time are you planning to leave? Riders will be preparing to leave 'the People's Hall from 3.30am on the second day (I predict). Last year a good group was away by 4:15.
Don't want to be comatose whilst my phone goes off waking everyone else up!!
I'm proper bricking it, got to be the hardest thing I've ever entered and haven't done anything more than a 400 so far this year.
Good point about riding with others, if you find yourself riding with others whose plan is not too far removed from your own it makes sense to adjust to suit so that you've company on the road. Bit of company often prompts me to reduce faff time and push through any lows on the way to keep pace. I'm definitely looking to maximise sleep time and be on the road by 7 each day at the latest and treat each leg like a day ride rather than an endless slog, at least that's the spin I'm putting on it in my head for a little 'positive mental attitude'🤣🤞By 7? Wow. My plan is to be on the road by 5. I know I won't be finished by sunset each night so plan to make use of all the light in the morning.
hopefully I can keep close to my usual pace across each day, but it's been too long since I've done multi-day rides to have any real confidence on that front.
For those who expect to make full use of the 75 hours available, the rider needs to have a plan for the last day. Bispham is only 80k from Sedbergh: 5 hours including a safety margin (hors delai after 1400) so leave no later than 9am (control closes around 8am).
5 hours eating and sleeping means getting back to Sedbergh from RHB by 4am Monday.
So with 336k to do on Day 3, starting at 7am (say) that's 21 hours = 16kph average during the day. Entirely doable.
5 hours eating and sleeping means getting back to Sedbergh from Keilder/Lockerbie by 2am Sunday.
So with 346k to do on Day 2, starting at 5am (say) that's 21 hours = 16.5kph average during the day. Entirely doable.
5 hours eating and sleeping means getting to Sedbergh from the Lakes by midnight Friday - implies a day average of 19kph for that short day (250k). Entirely doable.
YMMV, as may your sleep requirement, and indeed your propensity to plan.
See you there.
HTH
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Loads of stuff in Kirkby Stephen - a Co Op and newsagents are all that's likely to be open at passing time, though.Quote from: Ajax BayRiders will be through Kirkby Stephen before the shops open (at 7). If they aren't through by 6 they will not be completing Day 2 (my prediction)......
Stanhope - there's a Co Op and a cafe next to it, but the cafe at the Dales Tourist Centre is much better (opens at 9).
Above Stanhope there's Parkhead Station Cafe on the Waskerley Way: http://www.parkheadstation.co.uk/tea-rooms.php - just follow the gravelly track out to it. I'm not sure of the opening times, but you could give them a call and just get a receipt in Stanhope before riding up Crawleyside to the cafe - it says 3 miles from Stanhope, and there's a board at the cafe for writing your time up Crawleyside. Don't expect this to be a quick 3 miles.Quote from: Ajax BayImmediately after Stanhope, above Crawleyside, Parkhead Station Cafe - used last year (on Deano's recommendation) opens at 9am. Bacon and egg bap, and coffee iirc: tasty and pretty quick. Worth ringing them (01388 526434) from Stanhope if a group of riders planning to stop. And as a bonus, you're not doing the Crawleyside climb on a full stomach.
Nowt AFAIK - go to the Co Op for a receipt and carry on to Parkhead or Blanchland.It would be
ETA -Kirkby Stephen to Stanhope in two hours would be... impressive.
Toughest bits for heat and hills will be approaching kielder and leaving robin hood's bay.I'd add the NYM Eskdale roller coaster from Kildale across to where you join the A171.
Not many of the control towns have 24 hour facilities as far as I can tell so going nocturnal to avoid the heat is not an option.
Kielder(417) - if you're not going to make Kielder by 1700 (village shop closing time) then . . . 'Kielder' Tower Knowe Visitor Centre is 13km earlier, on the right, overlooking Kielder Water (well signed and has cafe - closes at 5pm)There's a pub in Kielder too which does food.
I was thinking more about food and water than the ability to control. Theres only so much that can be carried.Toughest bits for heat and hills will be approaching kielder and leaving robin hood's bay.I'd add the NYM Eskdale roller coaster from Kildale across to where you join the A171.
Not many of the control towns have 24 hour facilities as far as I can tell so going nocturnal to avoid the heat is not an option.
Stanhope(323) ATM 3 doors down from Coop
(Parkhead Station cafe opens at 9am Saturday - recommended, and they know some may stop there) It's 4km and 235m up Crawleyside, above Stanhope. Food there in 2016 was a darn sight faster than the cafe in Stanhope. They cook to order.
Kielder(417) - if you're not going to make Kielder by 1700 (village shop closing time) then . . . 'Kielder' Tower Knowe Visitor Centre is 13km earlier, on the right, overlooking Kielder Water (well signed and has cafe - closes at 5pm)
Lockerbie(480) ATM and see Andy's info
Penrith(550) ATMs. Shell Garage is open 24 hours (on the A6 road going south after the centre of town)
Yarm(692) 24 hour garage
Robin Hood's Bay(755) ATM down in village - Fish Box closes at 6pm on Sunday (NB 260k to go)
Ripon(853) 24 hour garage
As an aside, in 2016, two of us ended up in the 'Cross Keys' in Canonbie (01387 371010, 40km from Kielder). Excellent food, fantastic beds and the best 11 hours sleep I've had this century.
Jon B and another left Kielder around 5 in 2016 heading for Lockerbie and then SE (while we eventually found beds in Canonbie). AIUI they made it to the 'sleep' control 12+ hours later, took 2 hours and then set off for RHB at about 8am Sunday. They completed before 1pm - as the lanterne rouge group, I think. Amazing performance. Possibly relevant that they'd ridden 'within themselves' for the first 450k.Kielder(417) - if you're not going to make Kielder by 1700 (village shop closing time) then . . .As for not making Kielder by 5, that would leave 189km to get back to sedbergh, probably 10-12 hours completing the ride from that position would be impressive.
How many actually started and how many finished?
Mine host at the Sedbergh central control - Gail - waiting for the first in on Sunday afternoon.
https://ibb.co/ctLO2T (https://ibb.co/ctLO2T)
Andy Gregg got back from Robin Hood's Bay about 5pm Sunday and after having something to eat and waiting around a bit, rode on to Bispham getting there, by design, just before AC the organiser opened up the finish at 10pm. Here's his bike in the afternoon sunshine:Racing wheels with 16f/21r spokes? I’ve just been looking at those for my racing bike (I keep getting dropped) but I prefer 32 spokes per wheel for Audax. Chapeau for the fast finish!
https://ibb.co/dEWD2T (https://ibb.co/dEWD2T)
Merida Reacto Team
Ultegra (mechanical) derailleurs/STIs
Rotor semi compact 52/36 (but with a 34t fitted)
11-40 cassette (with Wolf Roadlink)
4000S IIs on Fulcrum Racing 3s
7cm lifts under the tribars
...they had walked up both Wrynose and Hardknott...
The link to the jersey does not work - anyone have a working one!
http://forcegb.com/club-shops/mille-pennines-1000-
Any veteran has advice to offer?
Thanks for the advice.
Time is normally not an issue for me, I tend to finish first or second in most 200 and in the faster 5% in longer 300 and 400.
Last year I got to Kings YHA at 10 PM. I am good at clearing controls quickly and I don't faff around.
Useful to know that beds are only available for the quick ones, so it is more of a "race" than I thought... ;D
You mention bunks, but I read somewhere they have inflatable beds? Presumably part of the LEL stash
Thanks...
Yes, looking at your speed day 1 looks easy, and as you say it's only Wrynose and Hardknott (somehow I though it would be the reverse order).
Day 3 is the killer.
I was thinking one option to get more/better sleep is to rent a room in Sedbergh for night 1 and 2... I suppose night 3 one gets back so late that it's not worth it and the day after is just a stroll anyway...
I see the 2020 event is up and very tempting, perfect time of the year for me.Here's an estimate of the route Andy will offer: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30720474?beta=false
I understand the night control is 50 miles from the start/finish, . . . I also understand there are airbeds and showers, but not blankets, from what I read on some reports.
It might a bit ambitious as a first Mille, but I value logistics over terrain, I pretty much only do AAA events anyway, so I see the climbs as a plus, and would probably get bored stiff to cycle on a flat 1,000. I have done Hardknott and Wrynose in the past, so I am familiar with those gradients and the challenges they present (more going down than going up to be fair), I will probably reduce further my already generous 28 inch lowest gear
Any veteran has advice to offer?
Changed heading for next year's event.Things you only do once:
I'm in. Want a big event for next year and this fits the bill.
BB
Finish the Mille Pennines.Maybe @Bianchi Boy can change the thread title again?
Here's his bike in the afternoon sunshine:'Gas man' Andy completed PBP (unsupported, on the same bike) in 51 hours.
https://ibb.co/dEWD2T (https://ibb.co/dEWD2T)
Merida Reacto Team
Ultegra (mechanical) derailleurs/STIs
Rotor semi compact 52/36 (but with a 34t fitted)
11-40 cassette (with Wolf Roadlink)
4000S IIs on Fulcrum Racing 3s
7cm lifts under the tribars