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Kim

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #200 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:23:31 pm »
IFF reader knows what a hectare is.

I'm not entirely convinced that anyone[1] knows what a hectare is.  It's one of those things you have to look up each time.... :)


[1] Apart from farmers and mistake agents.  And I'm sceptical about the mistake agents.

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #201 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:25:46 pm »
It's easy.  :-)

A hectare is about two and half acres, and an acre is a furlong long by a chain wide, as any fule kno.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #202 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:28:49 pm »
IFF reader knows what a hectare is.

I'm not entirely convinced that anyone[1] knows what a hectare is.  It's one of those things you have to look up each time.... :)


[1] Apart from farmers and mistake agents.  And I'm sceptical about the mistake agents.
One hectare is a hect of ares
An are is a hect of square metres.
What could be simpler.


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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #203 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:29:58 pm »
It's 1% of a square kilometre.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #204 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:32:44 pm »
A hectare is about 1 rugby union pitch, including the bit behind the goals. Or a bit more than a football pitch.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #205 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:33:08 pm »
IFF reader knows what a hectare is.

I'm not entirely convinced that anyone[1] knows what a hectare is.  It's one of those things you have to look up each time.... :)


[1] Apart from farmers and mistake agents.  And I'm sceptical about the mistake agents.
One hectare is a hect of ares
An are is a hect of square metres.
What could be simpler.

It's the hects that are the problem.  See also hectopascals.

Davef

Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #206 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:38:02 pm »
IFF reader knows what a hectare is.

I'm not entirely convinced that anyone[1] knows what a hectare is.  It's one of those things you have to look up each time.... :)


[1] Apart from farmers and mistake agents.  And I'm sceptical about the mistake agents.
One hectare is a hect of ares
An are is a hect of square metres.
What could be simpler.

It's the hects that are the problem.  See also hectopascals.
I think deci and deca are worse. Get those two the wrong way round would be a hectoblunder.


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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #207 on: 09 July, 2020, 06:07:05 pm »
Better to write deka than deca. Not only is it more distinct from deci, but it preserves the Greek/Latin, hard going up/soft coming down distinction.

And what's the problem with hectopascals?
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #208 on: 09 July, 2020, 08:45:11 pm »
A hectare is about 1 rugby union pitch, including the bit behind the goals. Or a bit more than a football pitch.
I was going to write that. Before The Event we discussed the fires in NSW at Scouts. Got them to visualise a hectare by comparing it to a rugby pitch, then worked out how many are in a grid square. Then looked at a map of NSW. The largest fire was $scarynumber of hectares. A bit less than the size of Surrey, Sussex and Kent put together.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #209 on: 18 August, 2020, 07:54:08 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/18/atlantic-ocean-plastic-more-than-10-times-previous-estimates

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That would indicate a concentration in the Atlantic of about 200 million tonnes of these common plastics.

 :facepalm:

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #210 on: 18 August, 2020, 08:05:58 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/18/atlantic-ocean-plastic-more-than-10-times-previous-estimates

Quote from: Grauniad
That would indicate a concentration in the Atlantic of about 200 million tonnes of these common plastics.

 :facepalm:
That is a lot of plastic. Arithmetic seems in the right ballpark. Not sure concentration is the right word.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #211 on: 18 August, 2020, 09:20:30 pm »
A concentration of large amounts of plastic could be something like the Great Garbage Patch, relative to less polluted waters. Trying to be kind here.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #212 on: 19 August, 2020, 12:04:28 am »
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/18/atlantic-ocean-plastic-more-than-10-times-previous-estimates

Quote from: Grauniad
That would indicate a concentration in the Atlantic of about 200 million tonnes of these common plastics.

 :facepalm:
That is a lot of plastic. Arithmetic seems in the right ballpark. Not sure concentration is the right word.

Concentration is definitely not the right word  :demon:

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #213 on: 19 August, 2020, 03:22:13 am »
Concentration is the amount of something in a given volume so it's [weight] per [volume]. Both must be specified.

Davef

Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #214 on: 19 August, 2020, 06:03:19 am »
The estimated concentration is 200MT per Atlantic, an atlantic’ being an obscure non SI unit of volume equal to 310,000,000,000,000,000 cubic metres.  :-)

The zA zeptoAtlantic is a more useful unit for day to day use.
I had 1.7 zA of Guinness yesterday lunchtime.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #215 on: 19 August, 2020, 08:34:08 am »
It's only wrong if they've tried to make it maths. Otherwise it's just a lot in one place.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #216 on: 19 August, 2020, 08:43:19 am »
The estimated concentration is 200MT per Atlantic, an atlantic’ being an obscure non SI unit of volume equal to 310,000,000,000,000,000 cubic metres.  :-)

The zA zeptoAtlantic is a more useful unit for day to day use.
I had 1.7 zA of Guinness yesterday lunchtime.

EDIT: several
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #217 on: 19 August, 2020, 09:33:19 am »
A hectare is about 1 rugby union pitch, including the bit behind the goals. Or a bit more than a football pitch.

Depends on the size of the in-goal areas, and the width of the pitch, works for something like Twickenham at a full 70m wide and with 22m in-goals, but not a lot of the cabbage patches I used to referee on

Wasn't an acre by definition the area of land that one man with one ox could plough in a day?  I'm not sure which ox was used for the furlong x chain normalisation
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #218 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:07:56 am »
The estimated concentration is 200MT per Atlantic, an atlantic’ being an obscure non SI unit of volume equal to 310,000,000,000,000,000 cubic metres.  :-)

The zA zeptoAtlantic is a more useful unit for day to day use.
I had 1.7 zA of Guinness yesterday lunchtime.

EDIT: several
What's that in Olympic swimming pools?

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #219 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:26:49 am »
The estimated concentration is 200MT per Atlantic, an atlantic’ being an obscure non SI unit of volume equal to 310,000,000,000,000,000 cubic metres.  :-)

The zA zeptoAtlantic is a more useful unit for day to day use.
I had 1.7 zA of Guinness yesterday lunchtime.

EDIT: several
What's that in Olympic swimming pools?

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It's 5123.44 times the area of Wales.

We just need the conversion factor for Wales / Olympic swimming pools to finish the calculation.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #220 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:32:26 am »
Lake Superior is about 4 times the size of Wales, if that's any help.

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Davef

Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #221 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:36:01 am »
We have lost a dimension, slipping from volume to area.

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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #222 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:44:01 am »
We just need the conversion factor for Wales / Olympic swimming pools to finish the calculation.

There used to be a website for this but it disappeared some time ago. Also had other useful conversion factors like lengths in double decker buses.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #223 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:54:00 am »
We have lost a dimension, slipping from volume to area.
It got stuck in the Tardis.
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Re: Arithmetic that makes you cringe
« Reply #224 on: 19 August, 2020, 11:57:46 am »
The Register standards converter still exists, although as a Wales is a unit of area, you would need a Wales x Double-decker bus equivalent to O-SSPs
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