Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Freewheeling => The Dark Side => Topic started by: Quint on 03 December, 2011, 01:53:53 am
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Since starting to ride a recumbent trike (full recline) the nearest I have got to staying dry is with an old Gore Tex Karrimoor jacket, no outside pockets and a good storm flap over the zip, I have tried North Face and Madison only to get soaked through pit zips or pockets as the rain (of course) just lays on top of you.
I would like Gore Tex preferably with no pit zips or outer pockets, any ideas :)
PS: I have resorted to wrapping myself in a yellow cycle cape from Argos when it pours but however you do it it flaps about and looks daft (and Barbara says I look like a giant jelly baby in it :o
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I gave up with a zipped jacket and went for an over the head job it does have a chest pocket ideal for your phone etc.
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Wheelbarrows :o only the uninformed amoeba could call an ICE trike a wheelbarrow, quick (in the right hands) and incredible fun.
However if the post is in the wrong place it shall be moved,
:)
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*watches thread with interest*
I'm not a big fan of waterproofs, generally preferring to be wet with rain rather than my own sweat, but for the odd occasion where they're actually useful it would be nice to have something that's a bit better suited to lying down on the job...
Drain holes in the elbows, anyone?
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Like any jacket I find once the rain's heavy enough to go through any zip I'm going to get wet anyway. Cold and wet is bad, warm and wet not so.
I currently have an ICE recumbent jacket that I got 2nd hand which is good but expensive.
Rich
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*watches thread with interest*
I'm not a big fan of waterproofs, generally preferring to be wet with rain rather than my own sweat, but for the odd occasion where they're actually useful it would be nice to have something that's a bit better suited to lying down on the job...
Drain holes in the elbows, anyone?
4c at 04-00 and wet this morning on my ride home, a storm flap over the zip is essential (the pocket on the Karrimoor was under the storm flap-intelligent design) and preferably Gore Tex
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Yeah, I tend not to ride in those sort of temperatures if I can avoid it (asthma kicks in below about 6C), and when I do, it's usually on an upwrong.
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i find that the "sealed zips" do the job for me.
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Yeah, I tend not to ride in those sort of temperatures if I can avoid it (asthma kicks in below about 6C), and when I do, it's usually on an upwrong.
Minus 14c is my lowest so far :P
Sealed zips ! My Madison had those front/pit/pocket zips and the sitting water just seeped in
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Wheelbarrow seems good to me. ;D
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Wheelbarrow seems good to me. ;D
Especially if it means we're allowed to compete in the wheelbarrow race...
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i find that the "sealed zips" do the job for me.
That's very interesting. I had been wondering whether these zips would resist the small puddles of water I sometimes get on my front. I presently have a paclite smock (over the head) but it was quite expensive even in a sale and I don't know if Haglofs still make them. Works very well but it was available only in black, which I am not keen on. Bit more choice with the sealed zip jackets.
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I'm currently considering a cycling cape and attaching it using elastic to my knees/thighs to see if that helps keep the worst of the rain off and yet keep me from boil-in-the-bag syndrome. However I'm worried that wind in the wrong direction would inflate the whole think like a Zeppelin.
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I'm currently considering a cycling cape and attaching it using elastic to my knees/thighs to see if that helps keep the worst of the rain off and yet keep me from boil-in-the-bag syndrome. However I'm worried that wind in the wrong direction would inflate the whole think like a Zeppelin.
This is what I am trying at the moment, Barbara is going to trim and re profile it so it is less bulky (make it like a long tuck under Tabard), it works in its original form quite well (heavy rain), also stops the wind very well :)
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(http://www.typhoon-int.co.uk/images/structure/products/xl/1253798006_typhoon_pic_f_clean.jpg)
http://www.typhoon-int.co.uk/products/commercial/aviation_drysuits/typhoon_over_water_passenger_/
Happy to help!
Being serious, a decent kayak drysuit might just work..
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Good way to lose weight (sweating)
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I find that a cycling shirt, wool jumper with pertex top copes with just about everything.
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(http://www.typhoon-int.co.uk/images/structure/products/xl/1253798006_typhoon_pic_f_clean.jpg)
http://www.typhoon-int.co.uk/products/commercial/aviation_drysuits/typhoon_over_water_passenger_/
Happy to help!
Being serious, a decent kayak drysuit might just work..
(http://www.defence.gov.au/news/NAVYNEWS/editions/4715/images/02-old%20divers%20pic.jpg)
Great. The new rainproofs for recumbent riders.
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The one in front is modelling the HPVelotechnik version, presumably?
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One selection of apparel sported on the HPVelo website used to be on the frame colour selection page.
Whilst the material itself might have been waterproof, I don't think the young lady wearing it whilst sitting on a trike would have been dry. Rubber/pvc and long kinky boots (probably spd-less) probably didn't do a lot to stop rain going places where she really wouldn't want it..
(Yes, I know this isn't much use without pictures...)
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I know the picture of which you speak. I may have studied the impracticality in some detail. Maybe. :demon:
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Worth getting wet for though :o
One selection of apparel sported on the HPVelo website used to be on the frame colour selection page.
Whilst the material itself might have been waterproof, I don't think the young lady wearing it whilst sitting on a trike would have been dry. Rubber/pvc and long kinky boots (probably spd-less) probably didn't do a lot to stop rain going places where she really wouldn't want it..
(Yes, I know this isn't much use without pictures...)
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Wheelbarrows :o only the uninformed amoeba could call an ICE trike a wheelbarrow,
IIRC upright trikes are/were know as barrows, and the riders thereof as barrow-boys.
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And I called my Ken Rogers tandem trike many other things as well, however, it doesn't appear that any company makes anything that will keep me dry on my back and Gore Tex has stated that the production run is to big to think about it, ah well.
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I don't like long sleeves as there is nothing to stop the water running in on the left hand side.
This means I always get a nice stream of cold water dripping down my left armpit when it rains.
Plus I find getting at the elbow lock a lot more fiddlely through the fabric.
I ended up looking at canoeing tops and found they do half sleeve cags.
So I've just ordered a Reed Short Sleeve Dry Cag (http://www.chillcheater.com/aqshop/catalogue.php?id=2116&page=).
I'm not sure how well I'll get it on over the armour plating but they looks interesting.
I've also ordered some pre-bent shorts from there as well ...... :facepalm:
I'll report back on how well they work once I've tried them in the rain ......... ;D
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What would do it for me (as the leak I get on the North Face is the chest pocket, being as we know laid on me back) is a waterproof tabard/reflective type waist coatie thing.
When raining I look like a bloody canary at the moment as I wrap myself in a cycle cape which however hard I try still billows about :o
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One thing I've just bought, but yet to try in anything other that a few spots of rain - so may yet be just an expensive experiment (or at least, a short sleeved windstopper/waterproof gilet) - is one of these:
http://www.probikekit.com/uk/clothing/mens/cycling-clothing/jerseys/castelli-gabba-windstopper-rain-cycling-jersey-1.html
- not exactly given away at 75 quid for a large in white (that's way cheaper than the other sizes..or rrp :o ) - and I've got the water-resistant-but breathable nanoflex arm/leg warmers and shorts to suit. My main nuisance is getting soaking on cold/fastish commutes to somewhere where I then sit for an hour or two getting cold and miserable, (beer/exercise permitting), before returning home.
First indications are that it certainly does the windstopper bit - had just a jersey under it when it was pretty cold last week, and it was fine. Minor drawbacks are the seams aren't sealed (mebbe washing durability?) and the zip's not waterproof, but being pretty breathable may well offset any odd zip leakiness - I can always stick a spare t-baselayer in my bag, so long as I'm not p*ssed through and getting cold as a result, I'll be a happy bunny.
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What would do it for me (as the leak I get on the North Face is the chest pocket, being as we know laid on me back) is a waterproof tabard/reflective type waist coatie thing.
I ride in a waterproof tabard/gilet at the moment.
I find they leak to much water in at the armpits.
Plus water leaks in through the zip.
So they are only good in a light shower.
Hence getting/trying out the more T shirt type half cag.
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maybe a full fairing would be the answer :).although i cannot keep up with you now ;D
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Happy Christmas Chris, I would love a full fairing but I don't think Barbara would be happy as it would most definately have to live in the house ;D
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you will have to buy her one as well ;). have a great christmas :thumbsup:
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tis the season to be merry, lots of whiskey, pies and jelly, chers Chris (and all others) ;D
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well i just put my rain jacket on back to front and leave the zip undone.
as i am very reclined on my catrike speed my back stays dry and cool if the rain lessens as the ride goes on, i just pull it down and bunched up across my lap, leave my arms in the sleeves to keep the spray from the wheels of them.
it works well in the cold as well on long slow climes pull it down so it is all bunched up on my lap at the top just pull it back up to keep the wind off on fast down hills.
i never have a cold back and i can use the big pocket across the back of the jacket as it is now at the front. :thumbsup:
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well i just put my rain jacket on back to front and leave the zip undone.
Believe it or not, I've never thought of doing that. I'll try it.
Er... or was that a joke? And I fell for it.
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Barbara did sugest this but (always a but) when one leans forward to use the water bottle it will (the law according to sod) flap loose, I am sure though that this idea could be adapted with a solid front and a double storm flap side zip, will Gore be brave enough to try this.
Doubt it
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What is this 'water bottle' of which you speak? :)
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the sort one drinks from ;D Tis the poxy computer I use at work, it sends stuff at will
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You appear to have a recumbent with a usable water bottle holder. What is this madness? ;)
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You appear to have a recumbent with a usable water bottle holder. What is this madness? ;)
You want a usable water bottle holder? See this and weep tears of envy :P
(http://images12.fotki.com/v335/photos/2/1621212/8381904/IMGP5447_-vi.jpg)
Note also the rear view mirror (stowed for maximum aerodynamic efficiency), MP3 player, lights (two visible in the photo, there's a third too), radio (Long Wave for Test Match Special) and, of course, the GPS.
Two nil, Kim I think.
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Oh my. :o
You are Captain Dashboard AICM5P.
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Captain Dashboard?!?
You mean there's someone out there with even more stuff cluttering the handlebars?
Dammit woman I need to know. Who is this masked hero?
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Look of awe :P
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Dammit woman I need to know. Who is this masked hero?
http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-04-17
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Glove compartment? Hmm.....
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You just know that there's somebody out there with a handlebar mounted ashtray, with matching lighter ;D
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I used (many moons ago) to smoke a pipe with a ventilated lid on top ;D
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well i just put my rain jacket on back to front and leave the zip undone.
Believe it or not, I've never thought of doing that. I'll try it.
Er... or was that a joke? And I fell for it.
no it is not a joke there is some video of me, at the Sheffield council strike with the jacket on back to front!
i pull the hood/collar up to cover the bottom part of my face and chin keeps me warm and dry
i did think about making a net panel to zip in but gave it a go without and it works so why got to all that trouble.
the only thing you have to remember to do it pull the draw strings tight at the bottom of the jacket so the jacket dose not hang down to low and ether rub on the chain or in my case drag on the floor, my trike has only 2" ground clearance.
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And this looks cool, yes?
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And this looks cool, yes?
If you're on a recumbent, it's sub-zero by definition (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38746.0), surely? :D
The usual rule about the dorkiness of cycle-specific clothing increasing with the square of the distance to the bike applies.
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Judging by the weather forecast it looks like I'll get the opportunity to try the arse-about-face-cycle-jacket method on this Saturday's 200 :(
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And this looks cool, yes?
people only notice when i get of the trike* and as the only normal person ever to have lived any one how wears there jacket differently to me must be nut jobs. ;)
*it must be the waxed handlebar moustache and long plated beard it tends to draw the eye
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My only worry about Markg0vbr's suggestion is that I might get knocked unconscious in an accident and some well meaning person 'adjusts' my head!!
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My only worry about Markg0vbr's suggestion is that I might get knocked unconscious in an accident and some well meaning person 'adjusts' my head!!
lol ;D mmmm i think i need a sticker to put on my jacket "this is the front or this way up" .