Post by: LEE on 04 July, 2012, 01:47:19 pm
Brief is similar but not so rigid.
1 - Try to post only photos of your bike in an obvious touring role (definitely none propped up against a blank garage wall).
2 - The photo should give a sense of your camping/touring trip. The photo should have some merit without the bike in there.
3 - The bike should be side on and prominent enough for people to drool over (not just a bike lying on its side on the grass in the distance)
4 - People ARE allowed in the photo but it IS about the bike (so do not obscure any part of the bike with any part of a human if possible)
5 - Give a brief description (no touring stories) - Bike Make & model / Luggage Brand & model / Location / any notable mods or custom bits
6 - Bikes don't need to be fully loaded but you should be carrying luggage, in a touring situation, rather than just riding with a credit card and a saddlebag (the regular gallery has a "Member's Bikes" thread)
7 - Try to curb your natural YACF instincts to reply to a photo post with a humorous comment and thereby repeatedly re-post the same image multiple times (Note..you can always remove your "humorous" comments any time you like in order to clean up the thread, leaving just nice touring bike photos).
Note: The idea of these photos is to make viewers want to jump up, hang some panniers on a bike and ride off to a distant campsite.
The current leader in the (my decision is arbitrary and final) "Best Fully Loaded Touring Bike Photo" is Deano with this one from page 6.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6677747515_be909a47fa_z.jpg)
Remember, we want to see the bike clearly, it isn't a holiday snap thread. It should be clearly a photo of your bike in a nice place (not a nice place that happens to have a bike somewhere in the distance)
Some perfect examples (to show the preferred standard). See below for contributors...
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5010/5335240888_cbf158822d_b.jpg)
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded2.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7279668446_e5cdcdfb2a_k.jpg)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/lindagordinho/May%20holiday%20Scotland%202012/118-1.jpg)
Post by: LEE on 04 July, 2012, 01:54:37 pm
Thorn Raven Tour (Rohloff Hub) / Ortleib Bike Packer Plus (rear) & Ortleib Front Rollers. Altura Bar Bag / Normandy 2012 / Schwalbe Marathons 26x1.5" / SON dynamo and B&M CYO light / slack chain / Dry-bag (for sleep mat) between rear panniers.
Blackburn Rear Rack / Tubus Duo Low-riders (real quality) at front.
Zoom
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GMujtekU68s/T7o8WT9KMII/AAAAAAAAAKM/NZCpt3rDWC0/s640/Thorn%2520Raven%2520Luggage.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2012, 02:15:12 pm
I have a general shortage of decent photos that meet those criteria. This one's not bad, as its photographic shortcomings[1] serve to further invoke Rule 9:
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/yacf_ecosse_2011/IMG_20110918_153142.sized.jpg)
HPVelotechnik Streetmachine GT with Ortlieb front and back rollers, modified Topeak tri-bag, custom Ortlieb/Camelbak hydration system. Probably a Cyclaire bag hanging under the seat containing pump and toolkit, too.
Forth road bridge in the pissing rain (my first ever trip to Scotland!). Waited 30 minutes for the wind to subside a bit before crossing.
The bike has more mods than you can shake a stick at, including: BB7 discs with Tektro levers, SON hub + B&M lighting, upgraded rear wheel, Thorn short cranks with wide-range chainrings, modified propstand, stem botch gadget / lip balm mount, modified Specialized computer.
This one's a better picture of the bike itself, on the way to Bristol after a YACF camping weekend the previous year. Luggage is Altura Orkney / Halfords fit-anything front panniers, brakes and chainset are original.
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/SMGT/PICT0191.sized.jpg)
[1] The cable wonkiness is an artefact of the bridge bouncing.
Post by: IanDG on 04 July, 2012, 02:21:31 pm
On the Kylerhea ferry (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/2294361930/) by windy_ (http://www.flickr.com/people/acf_windy/), on Flickr
A Henry Burton (Aravis) Audax frame - components are constantly changing (bike looks a bit different now) but I'm still using the Agu-sport Quorum canvas panniers
A long time since I've loaded up for a tour. This was taken on the Kylerhea ferry back in 2005. I've done a couple of tours since. The one pictured is when I cycled down to Torridon and spent a weekend with Phil Malcolm, MSeries, Blonde and the Pingus. I then carried on south and then returned to Lewis via Skye and the Uig -Tarbert ferry
From the same trip
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2254/2293572993_f15ce9ae5c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/2293572993/)
The road over the Quirang (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/2293572993/) by windy_ (http://www.flickr.com/people/acf_windy/), on Flickr
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3068/2294361082_24d1d294d6.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/2294361082/)
The road to Applecross (http://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/2294361082/) by windy_ (http://www.flickr.com/people/acf_windy/), on Flickr
Post by: Charlotte on 04 July, 2012, 02:27:47 pm
My Roberts Transcontinental at the beach after the Dun Run 2011. Built up by my own fair hand, it's kitted out with SON hub, IQ Cyo and lots of lovely goodies like Salsa Bell Lap bars and a Tubus Locc rear rack. 35c M+ tyres for bombproof happiness.
Full Ortlieb regalia, plus Arkel big bar bag and tail pack. The front rack is a non-lowriding variety as I like the extra space above the wheel to bungee yet more crap to.
Post by: mcshroom on 04 July, 2012, 02:42:26 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-56_kj7x70DU/TqbuYGOe4FI/AAAAAAAAAnQ/bVcTPVnPgTU/s640/IMG_0161.JPG)
My Dawes Vantage just off the Corran Ferry and on the way up to the Lecht Ski Resort in the Cairngorms last October.
EBC Waterproof panniers on rear and their non-waterproof panniers on the front The tent is a coleman vipor on the top of the rear rack. The Topeak road morph lives on the top tube permanently.
The bike is mainly spec as supplied but with Spa handbuilt wheels (36h Deore LX hubs, rigida snyper rims), charge spoon saddle, M520 spd pedals and an Alivo chainset to lower the gearing. Front racks Avenir alloy lowriders (now replaced with a much nicer tubus tara) and shod with 35mm marathons.
Post by: LEE on 04 July, 2012, 02:55:35 pm
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/YACF%202009/camp24.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2012, 03:01:27 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/YACF_rutland_2012/IMG_3521.sized.jpg)
On the left we have my trusty 2007 vintage (before they switched to cheap sus forks and disc brakes) Dawes Discovery 501, again sporting the Ortlieb front and back roller panniers, and a bike bag in stuff-sack bungeed to the rear rack. Upgraded with two sturdy A719 wheels with XT and 3N80 dynamo hubs, butterfly bars, rigid seatpost, BG saddle, B&M lighting, Hebie propstand, Topeak rear and modified Halfords front lowrider racks. Shod with 38mm Schawalbe Marathon Cross tyres for this trip (it normally wears 28mm Marathons for day to day use).
On the right, modelled by the lovely barakta on what is her first loaded bike camping trip, we have her 2011 ICE Sprint RS fitted with the Altura Orkney panniers and a Carradice rack bag. The trike is mostly stock, with customised hand controls, BB7 discs on the front and Tektro IO on the rear, Marathon Plus tyres, Axa bottle dynamo driving a B&M Cyo and a pair of Spanninga Pixeo rears, assorted gadget mount botchery, and a pair of modified B-Twin mirrors mounted to the mudguard supports. The flagpole doubles as a half-wave aerial for the FM receiver mounted in the seat pocket, allowing her hearing aid to work in windy/noisy conditions.
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/YACF_rutland_2012/IMG_3522.sized.jpg)
Those Altura panniers really are huge...
Post by: LindaG on 04 July, 2012, 03:13:41 pm
Taken on Mull a few weeks back.
The bars are new Bontrager ones but I don't know their name. Comfy though.
2005 Dawes Horizon (aluminium), Carradry front and rear panniers, original rear rack, Tubus Tara front rack, Continental Touring 32 tyres, new wheels - Alivio hubs, mavic rims, 36h. Deano's nice front Hope 1 light.
The front (black) 'guard is SKS, lifted from my dead Pompino. The rear (silver) is the original.
Tent - Coleman Avior 3. I think. Bungee'd to the rear rack, underneath
Flipflops - Asda, 2009 vintage.
Post by: epa611 on 04 July, 2012, 03:33:39 pm
Mrs epa611 (she's the "e") in Sweden a few years back
Post by: tiermat on 04 July, 2012, 03:41:43 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-43-MHVwJ22w/T5kmyg-saUI/AAAAAAAAB2o/7ioyyyqC29E/s852/P1000112.JPG)
And same town, different view:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XJC7LewKp6g/T5km0jRKkvI/AAAAAAAAB2w/0Bh5DWqYRpM/s852/P1000113.JPG)
Post by: Ariadne on 04 July, 2012, 04:02:08 pm
Here's Penny the Roberts in Greece:
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m170/gillianlaw/Europe285.jpg)
Roberts women's tourer, with tubus racks
Ortlieb panniers and an Edinburgh Bike Coop bar bag
Panaracer Paselas
God, I love that bike!
Post by: jogler on 04 July, 2012, 06:30:55 pm
Does this qualify?
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/yacf_baton/IMG_20120401_131331.sized.jpg)
picture credit belongs to Kim otp
Post by: jogler on 04 July, 2012, 06:32:44 pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67610004@N03/6895284692/in/set-72157629729916603
ETA
Ortlieb Bikepacker rear panniers
Agu Sport Quorum front panniers
Blackburn rear rack
Blackburn low riders front rack
Ortlieb 5ltr barbag
Carradice Camper Longflap on SQR brkt
Topeak Triathlon bag on crossbar
Cannondale M800 Beast of the East frame
35mm slick tyres
Deore XT front & rear mechs
Deore 8 speed XT thumbshifters
Post by: andrewc on 04 July, 2012, 06:42:30 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7279668446_e5cdcdfb2a_k.jpg)
Blue Meanie in the Lofoten Islands, Norway in June 2004. An Orbit Routier frame with MTB drivetrain and the first set of wheels I ever built. Now relegated to day rides & lighter trips as he shimmies like a bastard with that much weight on!
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2429/3970204090_14dd4e5e0a_b.jpg)
Blue Meanie on the Rallarvegen (http://www.rallarvegen.com/index.php?m=aboutrallarvegen&lang=en) in Norway, September 2005.
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1393/1353198580_7fbba23d6f_o.jpg)
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 July, 2012, 06:44:49 pm
(http://www.peeble.com/load1.jpg)
(http://www.peeble.com/load2.jpg)
Post by: plum on 04 July, 2012, 06:55:24 pm
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/997/sam0264d.jpg)
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6973/sam0258m.jpg)
Post by: plum on 04 July, 2012, 06:57:11 pm
Do not load your bike like I do. It handles like a supermarket trolley full of car batteries.I bet it's fun trying to get that up a flight of stairs.
(http://www.peeble.com/load1.jpg)
(http://www.peeble.com/load2.jpg)
Post by: mike on 04 July, 2012, 07:00:58 pm
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/mikes99mail/P1000859.jpg)
(should have bought ortleibs for the front too.. the carradice were cheaper but v fiddly and flimsy in comparison)
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2012, 07:02:53 pm
Does this qualify?
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7233/6895284692_080bcd151e_z.jpg)
I'd say so! You'd have to work quite hard to put any more load on the bike, as evidenced by the spoke deflection being sufficient to foul the rear mech every time you changed all the way down on a steep climb. I think I tried and failed to pick it up.
I was amused on that trip that someone (I forget who) commented on how *my* bike must be awkward to handle with 'all that weight' on the back - it isn't of course, because a SWB 'bent + rider is naturally front-heavy, so a couple of medium-density rear panniers serve only to improve the traction.
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2012, 07:06:56 pm
Do not load your bike like I do. It handles like a supermarket trolley full of car batteries.
Interestingly, if you do have to pack a supermarket trolley with a heavy load, going for a rogerzilla back-heavy approach greatly improves the handling...
Post by: andrewc on 04 July, 2012, 07:09:09 pm
Post by: andrewc on 04 July, 2012, 07:20:04 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7502595950_f792c4cfce_k.jpg)
Post by: PH on 04 July, 2012, 09:36:28 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7503241808_a8c73e5ce0_c.jpg)
The lightest I've toured, too light, it's the only tour where I'd wished I'd packed more. Bike is my Hewitt Cheviot SE, a great bike that I don't ride enough. No clues as to where it is, on a island hopping ten day Scottish tour.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8434/7503436392_92009eebd0_c.jpg)
Next time I toured Scotland I packed more, more than needed and a lot of it didn't get used, or used so little it wasn't worth taking. The Bike is my current most ridden, XACD frame and Rohloff that started life in my Thorn Raven.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7246/7503148546_fc3679106e_c.jpg)
Happy medium, it took a while to get there, now having used this kit a few times it feels right for me, I haven't felt I needed something I didn't have or take anything that wasn't needed. Most of my camping is long weekends, with two 10 day tours a year, no winter trips and all UK or Europe, any further or longer and I'd have to think again. Photo from a couple of weeks ago in Roker at the end of a C2C that was wet, wild and a lot more fun than I expected.
Luggage is Ortlieb Front Rollers, tent separated inner/outer in Alpkit drybags, Pendle saddlebag. I try and keep the saddle bag pretty empty for provisions or adding/removing clothes on route. First bar bag is a Vaude leaky newer one a Vaude waterproof.
Post by: mcshroom on 04 July, 2012, 10:07:55 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BiKUN5iKdX8/Tsel4Zfq_pI/AAAAAAAAAwI/gZWPWYuY7r0/s640/IMG_0170.JPG)
Post by: Kim on 04 July, 2012, 10:11:48 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/cycling/IMG_20120518_161354.sized.jpg)
Post by: rower40 on 04 July, 2012, 10:42:53 pm
Do not load your bike like I do. It handles like a supermarket trolley full of car batteries.Do NOT drink out of the front waterbottle. It is there to keep the front wheel on the ground.
(http://www.peeble.com/load2.jpg)
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 04 July, 2012, 11:34:10 pm
Post by: greenmeansgo on 04 July, 2012, 11:41:29 pm
On LEJOG last year, somewhere not far south of Inverness, skirting round the south side of Loch Ness.
Kona Sutra 2009, with Shimergo set up. Ortlieb rear panniers, Carradice carradry on the front. Ace trip!
And more of a close-up at Inverness station
(http://i45.tinypic.com/262bqly.jpg)
Post by: Robh on 05 July, 2012, 12:18:41 am
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8019/7182690513_7ac8882139.jpg)
Post by: Andrij on 05 July, 2012, 06:54:24 am
Post by: billplumtree on 05 July, 2012, 08:09:44 am
At the start of the trip, under the Kessock bridge in Inverness:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-buk6Jeg-o3A/T9Tu5FO26TI/AAAAAAAADCg/kEQGEqOT5cg/s576/P1030912.jpg)
Bike is a Salsa Vaya, new this year. Basic Shimano kit mostly, apart from a gorgeous Middleburn jewellery-like chainset, 46-36-24. The 24 ring saw plenty of use, in conjunction with the 32 sprocket. Tubus racks, Altura panniers. Downtube shifters, which it took me all of 10 minutes to get used to again after 15 or so years of Ergo levers. 26" wheels, with BB7 cable discs and 1.5" Marathons. His name's New Walter.
This is at Huisinis, where I camped for a couple of nights:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9EN_zobR9tk/T9UBtg9pKEI/AAAAAAAADXA/IHocHHok5OM/s576/P1040129.jpg)
And on the road to Huisinis:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vTU9o64XQUw/T9TvbRCnvbI/AAAAAAAADIQ/mueP-5mKZeY/s576/P1040082.jpg)
View from the saddle:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XTTYdU1oHDU/T9TwFpqvnVI/AAAAAAAADPA/-IPEu-a342Y/s576/P1040233.jpg)
Salsa Woodchipper bars - shallow drop, highly flared, extremely comfy. Cane Creek brake levers, cos they're the same shape as Campag ergos, and as a bonus you can get 'em with retrotastic gum-coloured hoods.
Comfortable, stable, lovely. And orange.
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 05 July, 2012, 10:12:06 am
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Two from a trip to the Cevennes in France in 2010.
Dawes Sardar, (since fitted a disc to the front), Brooks B17 saddle, Carradice front and rear panniers and rack bag, Ortlieb bar bag, Saunders Spacepacker tent, Trangia stove. The bottle under the downtube is for the meths.
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 05 July, 2012, 10:26:16 am
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2wd8412.jpg)
Those village water fountains are a god send...... next photo was moments after the first
(http://i49.tinypic.com/14szme0.jpg)
Post by: jogler on 05 July, 2012, 11:06:56 am
A Dawes Sardar.An absolutely cracking tourer.One of those bikes that is better under load than otherwise.
:thumbsup:
I've always regretted selling mine :(
What I should have done is NOT "roadified" my Cannondale M800 mtb & sold it as purchased & kept the Sardar.
Hindsight is always 20-20 vision dontyaknow ::-)
Post by: chillmoister on 05 July, 2012, 12:19:44 pm
(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo237/chillmoister/211.jpg)
luggage: Ortlieb bike packer plus on the back and roller Plus on the front and bar bag
Tyres: Schwalbe Marathons - 1.5"
Saddle: Spa Nidd - broken in on tour!
Rohloff Hub
Wine - French of course!
Calvados - from the local market!!
Post by: Paul Rainbow on 05 July, 2012, 01:52:19 pm
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded1.jpg)
Karrimor Rear panniers
Agu Front
Topeak barbag
Ortieb seat pack
Corsica 2010 - Bike upgraded with Bar end shifters and dynohub
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded2.jpg)
Agu front panniers (welded seams) fell apart in the heat. Had to super glue them back together!
Scotland West Coast Tour 2012 - Applecross Peninsula
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded3.jpg)
YHA Tour so traveling light
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded4.jpg)
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded5.jpg)
Post by: LEE on 05 July, 2012, 03:29:51 pm
Post by: Majorbloodnok on 05 July, 2012, 04:20:10 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 July, 2012, 04:49:18 pm
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/utf-8BQnJhaW50cmVlLTIwMTExMjAxLTAwMzEyLmpwZw.jpg)
A bit better. Tina our Orbit Routier tandem on the Atlantic coast of France in 2010. More Ortlieb loveliness:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/SDC10370.jpg)
Post by: Paul Rainbow on 05 July, 2012, 05:57:21 pm
cyclofabrica setting a high standard of photos perfect for this thread.
Thanks Lee! ;D
Last 2 for now... Mallorca Tour 2010 - Final Day arriving at Palma at Sunset
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded6.jpg)
(http://www.mediafabrica.co.uk/bike/images/fullyloaded7.jpg)
Post by: bikepacker on 05 July, 2012, 09:44:53 pm
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/ireland01.jpg)
Photo by Emmanuel Sarraco. A French fellow cycle camper we happened to camp two nights running at the same sites.
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/ireland02.jpg)
By the peace bridge in Londonderry.
Post by: Bledlow on 07 July, 2012, 10:59:54 am
The definition of fully loaded seems pretty elastic, not least my own.I've toured like that - from hotel to hotel, or (if one counts it as touring) hostel/B&B weekends. On a Roberts Audax.(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7503241808_a8c73e5ce0_c.jpg)
The lightest I've toured, too light, it's the only tour where I'd wished I'd packed more. Bike is my Hewitt Cheviot SE, a great bike that I don't ride enough. No clues as to where it is, on a island hopping ten day Scottish tour.
Post by: PH on 08 July, 2012, 07:03:58 pm
The definition of fully loaded seems pretty elastic, not least my own.I've toured like that - from hotel to hotel, or (if one counts it as touring) hostel/B&B weekends. On a Roberts Audax.
The lightest I've toured, too light, it's the only tour where I'd wished I'd packed more. Bike is my Hewitt Cheviot SE, a great bike that I don't ride enough. No clues as to where it is, on a island hopping ten day Scottish tour.
Yes, different strokes, I hostel tour with the saddlebag and bar bag. My companion on a hostel/B&B E2E took more than I do camping, fluffy towel, trainers, jeans... that's not a criticism, he never asked me to pedal for him.
Post by: Carradice bag lady on 08 July, 2012, 09:33:03 pm
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(http://i46.tinypic.com/2whftbs.jpg)
Two from a trip to the Cevennes in France in 2010.
Dawes Sardar, (since fitted a disc to the front), Brooks B17 saddle, Carradice front and rear panniers and rack bag, Ortlieb bar bag, Saunders Spacepacker tent, Trangia stove. The bottle under the downtube is for the meths.
Post by: Carradice bag lady on 08 July, 2012, 09:34:23 pm
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2ep0cqc.jpg)Excellent carradice panniers in action great to see them keep me in work yaaaaaayyyy
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2whftbs.jpg)
Two from a trip to the Cevennes in France in 2010.
Dawes Sardar, (since fitted a disc to the front), Brooks B17 saddle, Carradice front and rear panniers and rack bag, Ortlieb bar bag, Saunders Spacepacker tent, Trangia stove. The bottle under the downtube is for the meths.
Post by: arvid on 09 July, 2012, 10:01:11 pm
Just before a non-camping night at the Severn Bridge Travelodge, but I had camped the 3 nights before.
Post by: Chris N on 16 July, 2012, 07:11:22 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7561664008_e2f15f33a7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26008756@N08/7561664008/)
Loaded Inbred (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26008756@N08/7561664008/) by cnarborough (http://www.flickr.com/people/26008756@N08/), on Flickr
Setup as a rigid dinglespeed (32/20 + 34/18), with full set of frame bags for luggage: Bikepack.eu saddlebag, Revelate Designs Tangle bag and an Alpkit drybag on the bars. I was also carrying a small backpack for water, food and some clothing.
Post by: Charlotte on 30 July, 2012, 03:46:16 pm
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UujH8rSTDaI/UBW-ZEAah1I/AAAAAAAAFpI/j-LoEv0cKk8/s800/Lyope_060.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 30 July, 2012, 03:58:28 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/SMGT/IMG_20120727_183154.sized.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 July, 2012, 04:05:12 pm
A question to Kim and Charlotte (not a criticism), why do you do your Ortliebs up like that? I pull the shoulder strap down into the clip on the side at the bottom and wonder if I'm missing something?
Post by: JenM on 30 July, 2012, 04:10:09 pm
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/jcm56/P1000898.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 30 July, 2012, 04:16:37 pm
A question to Kim and Charlotte (not a criticism), why do you do your Ortliebs up like that? I pull the shoulder strap down into the clip on the side at the bottom and wonder if I'm missing something?
Shoulder straps are pointless extra faff and weight if you're not going to be carrying the panniers around on foot (as a general rule, I have bicycles to avoid the need for carrying things around, and in a touring situation I can imagine wanting to lug at most a single front-roller around for any amount of time), so they stay at home.
That just seems like the natural way to seal them for optimum waterproofing.
Not entirely clear in that picture, I've got the over-the-top straps crossed over between the two back-rollers. This mainly acts as a baffle to stop the water in the bag on top of the rack from sloshing about too much, but also provides a useful temporary thing-holder and knobbles the simplicity of the quick-release for traffic-lights-in-That-London security.
The clip at the bottom is, as far as I can determine, designed for securing a 7 Watt flexible solar panel across the rear panniers with zipcord. :D
Post by: Charlotte on 30 July, 2012, 04:20:01 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 July, 2012, 04:23:29 pm
Again, not inferring any criticism just curious. :-*
Post by: Kim on 30 July, 2012, 04:23:42 pm
Also, with the uberlightweight Ortlieb bags, they're thin enough to roll up the top like a dry bag, rather than just fold down and secure with the cross-strap.
Not just the uberlightweight ones, though how well it works depends on how crammed they are. I pack to allow two folds.
I thought this was the whole point in the roll-top design. ???
Post by: Kim on 30 July, 2012, 04:25:46 pm
Also, by using the bottom clip you can pull the top roll down nice and tight which looks better for waterproofing plus it squeezes the contents down from the top so helps stop stuff rattling.
Once you've expelled the air and taken up the slack by closing in a dry bag style, the cross strap achieves the same thing.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 July, 2012, 04:28:14 pm
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They were well full so it was tricky to get enough material to roll up. I like at least 2 rolls to guarantee watertightness.
I don't think it really matters how you do it. I love Ortliebs as they really are watertight although I've not tried other brands apart from my old 1980s Karrimors which weren't remotely waterproof.
Post by: Kim on 30 July, 2012, 04:34:20 pm
I've only had an Ortlieb leak when I crashed and made a hole in it (and that's now fully repaired with the appropriate patches). They really are splendid.
Not that I have any complaints about the cavernous Altura Orkneys in that regard - they've done equally well in the face of serious drenchings - they just fouled the rear brake on the Streetmachine.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 30 July, 2012, 04:38:21 pm
See, you've closed the external pockets our way! :P
;D That's cos there aren't any clips or little shoulder straps.
Post by: matthew on 30 July, 2012, 04:41:19 pm
When youth hostling the shoulder straps become very useful for carting the bags from the cycle store to the dorm. However when camping I can see they become superfluous as the bike is parked next to the tent. Or in Kims case tied to the tent by a guy line.A question to Kim and Charlotte (not a criticism), why do you do your Ortliebs up like that? I pull the shoulder strap down into the clip on the side at the bottom and wonder if I'm missing something?
Shoulder straps are pointless extra faff and weight if you're not going to be carrying the panniers around on foot (as a general rule, I have bicycles to avoid the need for carrying things around, and in a touring situation I can imagine wanting to lug at most a single front-roller around for any amount of time), so they stay at home.
Post by: Polar Bear on 30 July, 2012, 04:55:02 pm
Post by: Luke on 31 July, 2012, 10:29:57 am
That's the Union chain bridge over the Tweed, just over halfway along the coast and castles route.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7682979662_562b73470e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60205142@N04/7682979662/)
IMG_0556 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60205142@N04/7682979662/) by Hey look, it's Luke! (http://www.flickr.com/people/60205142@N04/), on Flickr
Post by: tiermat on 31 July, 2012, 10:36:22 am
If you're bear-sized the shoulder straps are a complete waste of time, just like the Ortlieb barbag straps.
This ^, I just use the tops clipped together as handles to carry my Ortliebs. If I need to carry them further (i.e. through airports etc) I have a cheap holdall which will take both panniers and the barbag.
Post by: Joe.B on 14 August, 2012, 09:15:30 am
This one was taken on Dartmoor along the route of the Devon C2C. The second tour my Daughter and I have done together.
Our next kit up-grade will be sleeping matts which stow more compactly.
Post by: Butterfly on 18 August, 2012, 07:14:11 pm
Post by: CrinklyLion on 20 August, 2012, 09:51:28 am
Post by: LEE on 20 August, 2012, 09:55:41 am
That is cool :thumbsup:. Reasonably small mats definitely help for tandem camping :).
But never trade off comfort in a sleeping mat. (Just take one really nice one for you...kids can sleep anywhere and their hips still work in the morning)
Post by: Arellcat on 20 August, 2012, 10:54:00 am
RANS V2 Formula 26 at Niagara Falls. Up top is an Inertia seat bag and underneath, a Terracycle rack hanging my old Edinburgh universal panniers that were being scraped to pieces on every tight corner, thus ruining my careful pre-tour sewing and mending session. They very nearly didn't make it through the ride, so when I was home, I replaced them with Arkel RT-40s.
Post by: mark on 28 August, 2012, 01:34:04 am
LHR Terminal 5, en route to the Tuscany-Corsica-Sardinia tour.
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Arcu Correboi, Sardinia. That's the SS125, Orientale Sarda in the background. The new highway goes through a tunnel here. I took the old road up and over the pass.
The bike: Nitto Campee steel front and rear carriers, TA Zephyr triple crank (22-34-46), 8 speed cassette (12-32), friction shifting, downtube shifters, Brooks Swift saddle under the rain cover, SON hub, Schmidt e-delux headlight, Cane Creek direct pull (V-brake) front brake, Shimano cantilever rear brake, Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (26x1.5), Crank Bros. eggbeater pedals. I used to share Charlotte's feelings about having a place to put extra stuff on the front of the bike, now I'm starting to think about saving weight with just a low rider rack in front. I built both wheels myself a few years back for my Sicily tour, they're still performing beautifully.
Baggage: Ortlieb bar bag (smallest one), Ortlieb panniers (roll-top in front, conventional closure in back), Rivendell "Keven's bag" under the saddle. I used to bring the Ortlieb adaptor to turn one pannier into a backpack. This time I brought a lightweight day pack that weighs less and takes up less space than the Ortlieb adaptor, and is a better backpack.
Post by: clarion on 28 August, 2012, 07:43:50 am
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Butterfly and her Van Nicholas
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TGL & Thorn Cyclosportif
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Post by: thesloth on 28 August, 2012, 08:41:52 am
Cannondale Touring Ultra 08 in Morocco
Post by: bobb on 28 August, 2012, 08:55:36 am
(http://www.zaribor.com/raz/pics/fullyloaded.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 September, 2012, 09:36:51 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/7965314234_1103cf5e44_z.jpg)
(Does this photo qualify for the thread? It's not yet "in a touring situation" but it was taken a minute before leaving.)
Post by: mcshroom on 09 September, 2012, 10:23:17 pm
This was from my tour in June, the last tour with this bike before it's frame cracked :(. The phone box was in the middle of nowhere on the north coast road between Melvich and Tongue
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Post by: Feline on 09 September, 2012, 11:03:49 pm
Orbit Pegasus Sport 700c tandem.
Caradice Super-C panniers. Front rack is Tubus low rider.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/feistyfeline/Semaine%20Federale%202012%20Niort/IMGP0127.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 September, 2012, 11:15:54 pm
Post by: Feline on 09 September, 2012, 11:23:27 pm
Note the flesh-coloured aircraft about to crash into the bridge at the top left of the first photo. ;D
Yes, I have mad photography skillz. I tend to forget which corner of my iphone the lens is in ;D
Post by: plum on 10 September, 2012, 04:41:12 pm
Post by: IanDG on 11 September, 2012, 12:17:02 am
Schoolboy error there. In any situation which requires queuing, especially at ports and the like, always ride nonchalantly to the front and park up as if you own the place. First on first off is your right.
Bikes first on with the Calmac Stornoway - Ullapool sailing but always last off. Never bothered me as the cars are up the road and there isn't a constant stream of traffic passing you for the first few miles.
Post by: marcusjb on 11 September, 2012, 09:04:11 am
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fb043 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/7975642775/) by marcus_jb1973 (http://www.flickr.com/people/marcusjb/), on Flickr
Our beast of burden on it's way up into the hills
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7975644099_80a512a4a4.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/7975644099/)
fb076 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/7975644099/) by marcus_jb1973 (http://www.flickr.com/people/marcusjb/), on Flickr
We are working on travelling lighter.
Post by: LEE on 11 September, 2012, 09:52:23 am
Post by: marcusjb on 11 September, 2012, 10:17:38 am
1280m? Looks like it were a grand ride down though Marcus.
Not at that point - dropped a couple of hundred metres before heading up to 1500ish. To reach that point, we'd climbed very gradually for just over 40km.
The high point of the trip (on bikes) was 1609 metres on the Puerto De San Glorio - and that was a heck of a descent (20 odd km back down to 300m). Hot discs and frazzled riders at the end of that!
Picos De Europa - highly recommended touring country.
Post by: clarion on 18 September, 2012, 12:45:01 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0729.jpg)
Not quite. This is two-speed cycle touring:
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 September, 2012, 01:23:06 pm
Serious question - what made you decide to put the pump on the seat tube cage rather than the down tube? I ask out of curiousity because I have the same model of pump but have always carried it on the down tube cage bosses.
Post by: clarion on 18 September, 2012, 03:37:18 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 September, 2012, 07:34:19 pm
Disappointed not to hear an exquisitely reasoned ergonomic advantage though. :D
Post by: jane on 18 September, 2012, 08:32:03 pm
1 Aug 2012 10:01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16762068@N04/8000673810/) by saoirse.davis (http://www.flickr.com/people/16762068@N04/), on Flickr
This is about as heavily loaded as I travel. I rarely use my front pannier rack. This was as much as I needed on a five week trip around Scotland. I am intrigued by the other cycle tourists I meet who are loaded front and back, especially when there are two of them loaded thus. What on earth have you got in there? And trailers, goodness me! I only use my trailer to transport items of furniture, or, more usually, the Lewisham Cyclists stall, gazebo and huge piles of cyclist stationary and propaganda etc to various summer fairs. I have never carried enough when touring to fill a trailer, even in the days when I had children with me.
Post by: jane on 18 September, 2012, 08:37:13 pm
In my experience (and I have sailed on quite a few) Calmac ferries generally put bikes on first, off last. Apparently, they believe it's safer. The only time (that I remember) it being otherwise was on the little one that goes from Fishnish to Lochaline. And there were only two cars on it. And me.Schoolboy error there. In any situation which requires queuing, especially at ports and the like, always ride nonchalantly to the front and park up as if you own the place. First on first off is your right.
Bikes first on with the Calmac Stornoway - Ullapool sailing but always last off. Never bothered me as the cars are
up the road and there isn't a constant stream of traffic passing you for the first few miles.
Post by: Kim on 18 September, 2012, 09:01:03 pm
This is about as heavily loaded as I travel. I rarely use my front pannier rack. This was as much as I needed on a five week trip around Scotland. I am intrigued by the other cycle tourists I meet who are loaded front and back, especially when there are two of them loaded thus. What on earth have you got in there? And trailers, goodness me!
To be fair, a pair of front panniers are a legitimate alternative to your tent on the rear rack and bar-bag. That can give better weight distribution, and not all bikes will take bar-bags. My standard setup (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=61057.msg1282190#msg1282190) is probably about the same amount of stuff.
I agree that trailers seem too much like faff for touring, though they do make some sense as an alternative to panniers stability-wise on tadpole recumbent trikes, and practicality-wise on tandems. There's also the use-case where a trailer can enable you to carry touring kit on a non-touring bike, so you've got the right bike for the job when you get wherever you're going. Oh, and the edge-case where you don't have the dexterity for high-density packing.
Post by: jogler on 18 September, 2012, 09:03:15 pm
Post by: clarion on 18 September, 2012, 09:08:10 pm
Packing stuff into the trailer's a doddle. Especially good if you have a wet tent.
Only downside is using trains. And that's a biiiig downside. Though I have been tempted to go for a bike which can fold onto the top of the trailer to treat the whole lot as a big bag for train use...
Post by: Butterfly on 18 September, 2012, 09:12:33 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 September, 2012, 09:13:31 pm
Post by: Kim on 18 September, 2012, 09:16:21 pm
When I used a trailer, I filled it with a porta potty and toilet tent so I still had most of my stuff on the bike. I usually find that whatever space I have, I fill. Any spare space means I take more shoes and blankets. :)
Hmm. We need a portaloo (I know a porta potty is something different) onna Carry Freedom pic for the "I carried this on my bike" thread. I'd settle for a TARDIS. :)
Post by: Kim on 18 September, 2012, 09:18:17 pm
I though the idea of using front panniers in addition to rear was to balance the load and have less effect on the bike's handling, rather than to carry more stuff - supposedly.
I reckon they're also more train-friendly than a pile of stuff bungeed to the rear rack. And a good size for day rides.
Post by: mcshroom on 18 September, 2012, 09:32:33 pm
Also 4 bags is good for a weeks shopping :)
Post by: jane on 19 September, 2012, 06:07:10 am
I agree about the weight distribution. Indeed, on my the Holdsworth, and an old Orbit Caraway, my previous touring bikes, when climbing steep hills, the front wheel would tend to lift. When I bought the Roberts, I fitted a front rack, for this reason, intending to use front panniers. However, I found that it has such a long wheelbase, and the wheels are so tough and heavy I guess, this doesn't happen. (I did feel it threatening on Hardknott once, but I had to get off and walk it anyway. My days of climbing stuff over 29 percent loaded are over, I think) I tend to use trains to get to and from touring areas, so I prefer not to struggle with four bags. Two is so much simpler.
Four bags for a weeks shopping? I used to manage the shopping in two Ortliebs. But we are a small family, I guess. And we have milk and most veg delivered.
Post by: mcshroom on 19 September, 2012, 09:27:11 am
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 September, 2012, 10:05:57 am
My days of climbing stuff over 29 percent loaded are over, I think)Whereas mine are... a complete fiction! I'm impressed at the idea of ever riding such a steep hill, lot alone loaded.
My "trecker" can lift the front wheel even without panniers. Someone said this is because of the suspension forks bouncing on rough surfaces, but they have rather little movement in them so I'm not sure it's that. As for shopping, I find two panniers usually enough, but we're another small family.
Post by: LEE on 19 September, 2012, 10:10:10 am
I though the idea of using front panniers in addition to rear was to balance the load and have less effect on the bike's handling, rather than to carry more stuff - supposedly.
Yes.
My Thorn Raven really comes into its own when it's loaded front and rear. The Thorn literature states that it is supposed to be loaded thus in order to make the most of its lovely loaded handling.
I don't carry any more stuff, I just have a more organised and distributed load. My wet tent can have its own front pannier if necessary.
I found that I can organise a small front pannier, which has a convenient shoulder strap, as a "grab Bag" with essential stuff for a night on a ferry...etc.
Post by: tiermat on 19 September, 2012, 10:21:22 am
Post by: Kim on 19 September, 2012, 01:49:14 pm
I find rear panniers are fine for normal shopping, but if I'm buying bulky items like toilet rolls then the space availible is important. Also if I have things like fizzy water (which I'm a bit addicted to ;-[) then I'd prefer not to overload the rear wheel which already has to deal with rather a lot of me on it.
I do our regular shopping on a pair of naff rear panniers, occasionally bungeeing things like loo roll to the top of the rack. About once a month I dig the trailer out and do a bulk buy of heavy things (orange juice is my vice, but also things like tins of beans and several kilos of rice) from the nearest Crap Tescos[1]. This is less annoying than doing an online delivery from the Crap Tescos in Solihull, as although their stock control is similarly rubbish, you haven't wasted 3 quid and a couple of hours hanging around when half the order is missing. You also get to ride your bike very slowly and off-load any accumulated recycling.
[1] Tesco's non-value own-brand orange-juice-from-concentrate is significantly nicer than the other supermarkets' equivalents.
Post by: clarion on 19 September, 2012, 01:51:46 pm
Post by: Kim on 19 September, 2012, 02:02:20 pm
Post by: clarion on 19 September, 2012, 02:04:00 pm
Post by: jane on 19 September, 2012, 05:10:49 pm
Tongue in cheek doesn't really work online does it. Twice on this thread I've tried to inject a humorousMy days of climbing stuff over 29 percent loaded are over, I think)Whereas mine are... a complete fiction! I'm impressed at the idea of ever riding such a steep hill, lot alone loaded.
My "trecker" can lift the front wheel even without panniers. Someone said this is because of the suspension forks bouncing on rough surfaces, but they have rather little movement in them so I'm not sure it's that. As for
shopping, I find two panniers usually enough, but we're another small family.
tone into my thread only to be taken completely seriously. I have never managed Hardknott fully loaded. Bet someone has though. Walking up it with full panniers is just as hard though, if not harder.
I have managed to get round the Drumbeg Rd, though and a few other steepish hills over the years. The Roberts Roughstuff has some very low gears. And I can climb as slow as 2 mph.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 19 September, 2012, 05:18:48 pm
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... (without any load) and had front wheel lifting problems. I got off and walked. The gearing is now even lower (24t on the front and 34t on the back) so would like to try again one day.
Although I have front panniers I can't use them on the bike shown above cos it's got bouncy forks so I need one of these (*) (http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=product&under=range&product_id=77)
(*) And believe me, I really want one but just can't justify it.
Post by: LEE on 19 September, 2012, 06:16:45 pm
AHEAD riser/stem makes it a quick job.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 19 September, 2012, 06:19:43 pm
Post by: Kim on 19 September, 2012, 06:21:50 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 19 September, 2012, 06:59:17 pm
Post by: David Martin on 20 September, 2012, 09:44:54 pm
Post by: clarion on 23 September, 2012, 10:10:35 pm
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 September, 2012, 10:23:03 pm
Post by: clarion on 23 September, 2012, 10:26:58 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 September, 2012, 10:31:26 pm
Post by: LEE on 26 September, 2012, 04:06:25 pm
It was, of course, back heavy, but even climbing Somerset hills in first gear, the front wheel only lifted once or twice, and not seriously. Handling was much better than I'd feared, possibly because the load was so low down.
I imagine the overall lowish gearing came into its own while carrying panniers. It was a bit undergeared for me unladed.
Post by: clarion on 26 September, 2012, 04:52:59 pm
Post by: fhills on 27 September, 2012, 09:23:17 am
In my global* web search for parts/fix for my Dahon Speed Pro I came across a post from some poor **rd out in Asia somewhere with the touring version (surely the most misconceived bike ever) of the Speed Pro. Fat chance he had of getting spares if I struggled to get them here and I came across folks trawling the US for bits and still giving up.
* no exaggeration - eventually fixed one problem with my bike when on an Italian island by communicating with a guy in Hawaii who disassembled his bike and took pics (Dahon changed its specs so often it would have probably struggled to tell me what bits it had put together to make mine) and getting bits shipped at considerable postage expense from the wonderful CH Whites.
My opinion may seem extreme, but I know of a few folk in the bike trade who have similar views.
Post by: marcusjb on 27 September, 2012, 09:33:11 am
He's ridden around the world many times (he has ridden over 600000 km in the last 50 years). Since 2010, he's been using a Brompton. I saw it at the world championships this year - quite a beaten up Brompton with his luggage dwarfing the bike! Amazing.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304806_490220497673844_789337386_n.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_St%C3%BCcke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_St%C3%BCcke)
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke?ref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke?ref=ts)
http://www.heinzstucke.com/index.php?mmod=staticContent&IDf=67 (http://www.heinzstucke.com/index.php?mmod=staticContent&IDf=67)
Post by: clarion on 27 September, 2012, 09:34:20 am
I do get frustrated with the lack of standardisation at Dahon, and finding parts is a nightmare. Even the couple of spokes we need to replace have proved to be an unusual size, and we'll be sourcing them via the interwebs.*
I also know that nobby and literida OTP have toured on folders (Dahon & Brompton respectively IIRC).
* Edit: Update. As we speak, Butterfly has informed me that a nice chap will cut down some longer spokes (he obviously has one of those cool benchtop tools for cutting & threading spokes :thumbsup:
Post by: RJ on 27 September, 2012, 09:37:12 am
Post by: clarion on 27 September, 2012, 09:40:19 am
Post by: Oscar's dad on 27 September, 2012, 09:43:50 am
We were out last night on one of our regular mid-week rides (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=22529.3240). Tomsk turned up on his Ridgeback folder complete with racks front and back. On Saturday he's taking it up north for a week's touring.
Post by: fhills on 27 September, 2012, 10:17:18 am
Touring on folding bikes? See Heinz Stucke:
He's ridden around the world many times (he has ridden over 600000 km in the last 50 years). Since 2010, he's been using a Brompton. I saw it at the world championships this year - quite a beaten up Brompton with his luggage dwarfing the bike! Amazing.
That doesn't surprise me at all - I meant to add a bit to my post about a Brompton being different. Clearly packing is a challenge but I'm perfectly sure that build quality is up to it. Mine is built like a tank and Brompton had the sense, seen as boring by some I know, to get the design right and not endlessly tinker with it/test bits on their customers.
No problem with my Brompton wheels at all.
Yes Clarion, very good bike shops can make spokes/adapt them - a bike shop in Italy offered to do this. A bike shop in the same town was a Dahon dealer but they had to give up on getting bits out of Dahon Italy so clearly their parts provision/dealer support was just as c**p there. Hence I went to Whites.
Post by: fhills on 27 September, 2012, 10:18:27 am
I know someone whose Dahon touring solution is a BOB Yak (occasionally complete with folding boat).Presumably he tows the Dahon behind the Yak?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 September, 2012, 12:34:39 pm
Touring on folding bikes? See Heinz Stucke:That looks like a spare crank poking out of his l/h front pannier pocket...
He's ridden around the world many times (he has ridden over 600000 km in the last 50 years). Since 2010, he's been using a Brompton. I saw it at the world championships this year - quite a beaten up Brompton with his luggage dwarfing the bike! Amazing.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304806_490220497673844_789337386_n.jpg)
Post by: marcusjb on 27 September, 2012, 03:10:39 pm
That looks like a spare crank poking out of his l/h front pannier pocket...
Actually no - it was a pretty big knife!
Post by: clarion on 27 September, 2012, 03:11:51 pm
Post by: Domestique on 29 September, 2012, 02:01:36 pm
2_Flat_Erics Ridgeback
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My Aravis
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Post by: Deano on 29 September, 2012, 09:47:21 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6988439134_f4207f5a25_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/6988439134/)
Dadeldhura and the Api range (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/6988439134/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr
Post by: LEE on 01 October, 2012, 04:52:15 pm
Post by: Deano on 01 October, 2012, 06:27:42 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 October, 2012, 07:33:56 pm
Each have their advantages.
Deep ;D
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 October, 2012, 10:17:19 pm
The historic soul of the Carradice is as deep as the mighty Yamuna, the modern spirit of the Ortlieb is as high as the mighty Himalaya. Now you hear the sound of one hand packing.Each have their advantages.
Deep ;D
:D
Post by: Kim on 01 October, 2012, 10:27:34 pm
Post by: Deano on 02 October, 2012, 08:03:04 pm
The historic soul of the Carradice is as deep as the mighty Yamuna, the modern spirit of the Ortlieb is as high as the mighty Himalaya. Now you hear the sound of one hand packing.Each have their advantages.
Deep ;D
:D
;D
Post by: Andrew Br on 02 October, 2012, 08:49:00 pm
Now you hear the sound of one hand packing.
Is that a euphemism ?
Post by: Pingu on 06 October, 2012, 10:53:23 pm
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9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/4001563129/) by The Pingus (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_pingus/), on Flickr
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3431/4001607167_78e1581ab0_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/4001607167/)
19 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/4001607167/) by The Pingus (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Post by: IanDG on 07 October, 2012, 07:26:23 pm
Post by: Krad on 07 October, 2012, 10:10:40 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cKE42cpiEaU/UG7CKH1_8mI/AAAAAAAAAQI/x1R1jgsz1v0/s903/IMG_0835.JPG)
Post by: marcusjb on 08 October, 2012, 08:46:03 am
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3431/4001607167_78e1581ab0_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/4001607167/)
19 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/4001607167/) by The Pingus (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Properly good touring photo!
Post by: Deano on 08 October, 2012, 10:01:36 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6696151435_c37085a4dd_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/6696151435/)
And these are from Turkey.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7006/6388794327_c81c1ed309_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/6388794327/)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6677747515_be909a47fa_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/6677747515/)
Post by: clarion on 08 October, 2012, 10:16:20 pm
Post as many photos as you like of that bike. It's worked hard enough.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 09 October, 2012, 06:26:12 am
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 09 October, 2012, 07:41:26 am
Am I allowed to post a second photo?
Moooaaarrrr!
Post by: Deano on 09 October, 2012, 10:11:22 pm
Third one is the odd one out. There's actually some scenery.
Post as many photos as you like of that bike. It's worked hard enough.
There's a lot of scenery in the first photo - it's just all the same. And the second photo has scenery, behind the cloud and snow..
Post by: clarion on 14 October, 2012, 09:32:13 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMG_1964_zps6f5da6e3.jpg)
Not quite fully loaded. I need to sort out the lighting to fit a barbag. And the panniers weren't that full - I just had the front ones for the sake of convenience.
Post by: clarion on 14 October, 2012, 09:32:56 pm
Post by: bikepacker on 27 October, 2012, 01:39:51 pm
Touring? On a folding bike? Are you mad?
Pauline and I have toured in France on folding bikes.
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/airnimal03.jpg)
So we must both be mad. ;D ;D
Post by: mmmmartin on 14 November, 2012, 08:06:18 pm
The bike shop where we bought more spokes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/6180197287/)
Med to Manche last September. Bike is 12 year old Galaxy from the back of my mate's garage, with extra shininess of two new sparkly spokes added by me next to a canal when two others broke. Hence the momentary halt to the journey at bike shop. Ortlieb back panniers are v waterproof, front Altura are not at all but cheaper and handy for keeping stove and tools in. Also food after supermarket visit. And wine, Troops For The Use Of, Quantity Litres One, Container Plastic.
Great trip, bike bus to the south, recommended. Brittany Ferries back from St Malo, worth every farthing.
Post by: mmmmartin on 14 November, 2012, 08:18:05 pm
P5120081 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/4609254942/)
This is fun, isn't? Now I have worked out how to do it, here's another one, same bike but on the trip down the Loire in the coldest May for 25 years.
Post by: mmmmartin on 14 November, 2012, 08:21:42 pm
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6146/6001028945_d6f23a2766.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/6001028945/)
It's all about the bike (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/6001028945/)
Post by: mmmmartin on 14 November, 2012, 08:28:19 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3136/2962329508_e7b69315aa.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/2962329508/)
bike on cycle route by motorway (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29651652@N06/2962329508/)
The bike is a Cannondale, which had an alu frame and was a brilliant bike with lots of good kit on it but I never got on with it for some reason, so sold it to a mate who loves it and took it to Iceland, where it gave good service.
That's all for now. I might come back after the next tour, which is to southern spain. The original plan was to ride carelessly along the sunny coast, which in January would be largely car free. The current plan seems to involve flying into Gibraltar and riding across the mountains to Madrid. In January. Sometimes there is snow. i am trying to learn Spanish. This will either be a trip that is very good. Or bad. Or both, but certainly character-building.
Post by: fhills on 15 November, 2012, 08:27:04 am
Post by: mmmmartin on 15 November, 2012, 02:20:52 pm
bridges
there are some truly spectacular ones. They can be a bit high and very windy, making it tricky to get across on a bike. DAMHIKT
Post by: clarion on 15 November, 2012, 02:21:27 pm
Post by: LindaG on 16 November, 2012, 08:30:26 am
Post by: sg37409 on 17 November, 2012, 01:00:53 am
Tandem holiday, near Josselin in Brittany.
Setting off for the next campsite. The tandem holidays we took were my favourite ever. Couple of near-divorce-totally-ballistic arguements, but so many more fun times. This was our last trip before the kids.
Post by: jane on 17 November, 2012, 10:03:53 am
[img height=480 width=640]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/96x3aumbszo5g2m/Photo%2014-08-2012%2016%2036%2016.jpg?dl=1[/img]
[img height=480 width=640]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/c1xb8yizbu4olu1/Photo%2015-08-2012%2009%2049%2029.jpg?dl=1[/img]
[img height=480 width=640]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/5y2nv52a8r0vvxp/Photo%2014-08-2012%2016%2036%2000.jpg?dl=1[/img]
Packed up after a night by Loch Rannoch
[img height=480 width=640]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/jh5ayuo24zk98ty/Photo%2005-04-2012%2012%2051%2052.jpg?dl=1[/img]
Nearing the end of Dungeness to Durness.
[img height=480 width=640]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/0gd3yunp6u4p8vd/Photo%2023-08-2011%2010%2038%2025.jpg?dl=1[/img]
I may have posted some of these elsewhere. Apologies.
Yes, yes, I know they're all in Scotland. How boring am I?
Now back to the washing.
Post by: LindaG on 17 November, 2012, 10:59:12 am
Do you do a lot of offroad touring? And what's that GPS machine you have? Would you recommend it?
Post by: jogler on 17 November, 2012, 11:07:49 am
Post by: jane on 17 November, 2012, 11:15:07 am
It is a bit battered now, and needs a refurb and I lost the waterproof, shockproof cover in Glen Affric. Probably lying at the bottom of the bog that nearly swallowed me up.
Post by: LindaG on 17 November, 2012, 11:19:36 am
Post by: Tomsk on 20 November, 2012, 07:32:12 pm
My Ridgeback Attache folder, in Ripon this October, going to York from the Lakes. Just about enough stuff for frosty nights, using the bike bag for extra insulation. Geared very low [on SRAM 7sp - wrecked the original Shimano Nexus 7] and got up a few 20% hills, including the 'Struggle' from Ambleside to the top of the Kirkstone. With my size 11s, rear panniers won't work, [without changing the rack for something higher and further back.] The original one is pretty solid, though.
Just needs a new stem to have the right amount of matt blackness.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 20 November, 2012, 08:06:02 pm
Post by: Tomsk on 21 November, 2012, 08:58:02 am
Carrying even more STUFF, on the way back from the York Rally. And some very nice ironwork in Ramsey: Fenland towns seem to go in for interesting clocks, mostly marking Queen Victoria's Jubilees. This one is a monument to the first Baron Ramsey, however.
The bike is my 1997 Dawes Acoma [mtb with drops] that gets used more for shopping than expeditions :( I finally wore out the Conti Top Touring 2000s on this trip; they had been on for at least 10 years - the tread detatched in several places on the rear and started flapping around!
Post by: tiermat on 21 November, 2012, 09:07:55 am
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387/Tomskinessex/268.jpg)
Great photo! In May(IIRC) this year, PB sat just to the right of that photo replacing a worn out tyre before we rode off towards York.
Post by: fhills on 21 November, 2012, 09:14:28 am
What's that Ridgeback folder? - a rebadged Dahon of some sort?
I kind of hope not though
Post by: Tomsk on 21 November, 2012, 11:02:26 am
I like your appriach to tyre use Tomsk :)
What's that Ridgeback folder? - a rebadged Dahon of some sort?
I kind of hope not though
Yeah, fhills - its really a Dahon - old style re-bar type frame. Triple-butted alloy, very light and apart from the new SRAM hub has received LX brake levers and a much better quality Bontrager 6061 handlebar that I had lying around. The stem is a mod. to accomodate its 6'+ rider - sawing off the original clamp and using a shim [Fosters finest aluminium iIrc!] to attach a conventional threadless stem probably invalidates the warranty!! I also wore out the folding pedals [flats, clips & straps added for this tour as well as the B17] - in non-touring mode I use the original padded saddle, which isn't too bad and now have MKS folding pedals, which seem better quality than the Suntours.
The only other camping tour I've done on it was around Argyll in 2009.
Post by: Thing2 on 05 December, 2012, 10:10:16 pm
A not quite fully loaded Dobbin, with extra wheel trailer, on tour over Thanksgiving. We failed to take a picture before putting the tent up!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2gXgE0lULDk/ULLozCrk29I/AAAAAAAACcc/Q1q1YcyrKuQ/s400/IMG_20121122_150351.jpg)
Post by: Butterfly on 06 December, 2012, 10:41:02 am
Post by: LindaG on 06 December, 2012, 03:29:33 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 06 December, 2012, 06:33:45 pm
Post by: clarion on 06 December, 2012, 07:15:58 pm
Post by: marcusjb on 06 December, 2012, 07:18:45 pm
We were taken with how long it wasn't, what with using an Extrawheel rather than a more conventional trailer.
Quite! I do like the concept of Extrawheels and have seen a number of tandems with them.
Our beast of burden at the seaside
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/7975642775_1c42117ccc.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/7975642775/)
fb043 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcusjb/7975642775/) by marcus_jb1973 (http://www.flickr.com/people/marcusjb/), on Flickr
Post by: Thing2 on 06 December, 2012, 08:23:11 pm
Post by: Deano on 17 April, 2013, 10:54:59 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8115/8658231959_9b4d192d01_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/8658231959/)
Post by: Dibdib on 17 April, 2013, 11:01:14 pm
(mine's the duffel coat, ta)
Post by: Deano on 17 April, 2013, 11:07:54 pm
Maybe I should have made it clear - it's the tomb of Cyrus the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great)
There's nowt great about Billy Ray, except for his mullet, which is one for the ages.
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 April, 2013, 07:06:01 am
Post by: Oscar's dad on 18 April, 2013, 08:35:57 am
The snap was actually taken in 2010 at Retreat Farm, Little Baddow but my submission lingered in a corrupted e-mail account until it was recently retrieved by Ron who runs the gallery. We were on a mini shakedown tour in preparation for our epic French cycle camping trip that happened later in the year and is described HERE. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30495.50)
Post by: Deano on 18 April, 2013, 07:43:49 pm
And a bin for Jane!
Ahem (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=49529.msg1465017#msg1465017).
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 April, 2013, 07:47:32 pm
Post by: pavel on 20 April, 2013, 07:30:29 pm
Here are a few photos of our bikes, loaded up, at various stops along the way:
Bianca having a good time on a downhill on her 43" size Fuji touring bike, in the hills of Kentucky:
(http://way-word-way.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/DAB5FA46-E6B0-4AFE-914E-90B81279431611.jpg)
A bit of a rest outside a small old time shop in a typical small town USA. My Thorn Nomad with Ortliebs on the back and Carradice supper C's up front. I've since switched to a full carradice setup:
(http://way-word-way.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/0A6160DA-9800-401C-A76C-A9CE3F477B5A18.jpg)
Happy to cross another state line:
(http://way-word-way.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/534340B8-D7F1-48A6-A0E8-77542230E5C322.jpg)
Post by: jogler on 20 April, 2013, 07:36:08 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 April, 2013, 12:06:57 am
hello; I just discovered this forum today. Last summer my twelve year old daughter and I decided we wanted to do something a bit crazyIf you're doing crazy, you've found the right forum! :o ;D :thumbsup:
Quote
A bit of a rest outside a small old time shop in a typical small town USA. My Thorn Nomad with Ortliebs on the back and Carradice supper C's up front. I've since switched to a full carradice setup:Thorn Nomad? Carradice? Suspiciously British for small town USA! (Glances at Surly in corner of room... Nah, it's not American, it's British Racing Green!)
Post by: Butterfly on 21 April, 2013, 11:35:41 am
Post by: slope on 21 April, 2013, 04:58:44 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8119/8650684683_4582453368_o.jpg)
Post by: LEE on 21 April, 2013, 05:55:24 pm
hello; I just discovered this forum today. Last summer my twelve year old daughter and I decided we wanted to do something a bit crazy and so we toured from North Carolina to Texas over an eight week period. It had been twenty years since I last toured on a bicycle and her first time out, in fact she had only learned to ride a bike two years prior. 2012 was the hottest summer on record for many days and several states and over the first while we sent back a good ten pounds of gear. You quickly learn to do with less in the mountains, in the heat. The experience was marvelous!
Here are a few photos of our bikes, loaded up, at various stops along the way:
Bianca having a good time on a downhill on her 43" size Fuji touring bike, in the hills of Kentucky:
(http://way-word-way.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/DAB5FA46-E6B0-4AFE-914E-90B81279431611.jpg)
Welcome to YACF.
Jesus H Christ! That's quite a descent.
Post by: Andrij on 07 May, 2013, 12:27:11 pm
(Velo-touring is addictive)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 07 May, 2013, 05:31:58 pm
And - Carpathian Cycling Club :thumbsup: "Green-blue-grey fir, spruce, pines and beech" well it sounds like mountain summer in a sentence.
Post by: Andrij on 11 May, 2013, 06:26:57 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z9uQzN_Ef88/UY5_BptImKI/AAAAAAAACD4/VdE0M4KDU8U/s576/P1030470.JPG)
ETA commentary, as per OP...
* Hewitt Cheviot SE, modified for disc brakes (canti bosses remain)
* matching Ortlieb luggage (5 pcs), bar bag has map carrier
* Topeak rear rack, forget what's on the front
* SKS Longboard mudguards
* Brooks Team Pro saddle, Ti rails
* SON dynamo, dynamo f/r lights (battery backups, too)
* SPOT Tracker (the small orange thing on the rack, between water bottle and flags)
* eTrex30
Post by: LeFlic on 15 May, 2013, 05:20:45 pm
Setting off for 10 days in France this weekend so the Ortliebs might get a good test if this weather continues. I have also changed the bracket for the handlebar bag so that it is lower and may well add a rack bag at some stage.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8741862624_3de8d2d5c9_n.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clive795/8741862624/)
IMGP0025 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/clive795/8741862624/) by clive795 (http://www.flickr.com/people/clive795/), on Flickr
Post by: clarion on 15 May, 2013, 06:12:09 pm
Post by: bikepacker on 15 May, 2013, 07:12:55 pm
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/bikestratford02.jpg)
Post by: toestrap on 20 May, 2013, 04:35:48 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/8899244947_610ed91871_c.jpg)
Near Barrage de Camboux, Cévennes. Dawes Galaxy, Karrimore Iberian Panniers, Ortlieb handle bar bag. The yellow stuff sack strapped to the pannier rack proved really useful. It was light and provided flexible storage for things like trackies, rain gear and other stuff for the day. (edited slightly to give it the full 'Gauloises' treatment)
Post by: Polar Bear on 20 May, 2013, 07:22:27 pm
Newly built Jackson at Stratford upon Avon on the way to yacf meet at Long Itchington.
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/bikestratford02.jpg)
Have to say that the photo does not do justce to a truly beautiful bike. :)
I wa' raaht about that saddle tho'. ;D
Post by: LEE on 21 May, 2013, 03:21:59 pm
Newly built Jackson at Stratford upon Avon on the way to yacf meet at Long Itchington.Looks great and, in black, the Ortliebs give a good option for those who can't decide between the Ortliebs and the Carradice (I initially assumed they were Carradice).
(http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/pictures/bikestratford02.jpg)
Post by: clarion on 21 May, 2013, 03:39:06 pm
Post by: jogler on 21 May, 2013, 03:44:08 pm
(I initially assumed they were Carradice).
Nope,they are proper panniers :demon: ;D
Post by: drossall on 21 May, 2013, 10:04:25 pm
Not as adventurous as you lot - this is my Mercian loaded for Scout camp. I seem to need a lot more kit than I would for camping myself - basically the rear rack is carrying the real camping gear, and on the front is the paperwork, extra shoes for uniform, and so on.
Still, at least I get to ride to that event each year :thumbsup:
Post by: LEE on 22 May, 2013, 10:48:04 am
(http://img3014.photobox.co.uk/52759790d73972da5adde3aa28b92fbd0054ec7658c1a93637af9286e18d320bbf258815.jpg)
Looks superb*
*Bar Tape is also available in black (and a wide range of other colours that aren't those 2 colours)
Age-old cycling dilemma "Go for a ride or mow the lawn?..go for a ride or mow the lawn?....." (Yes Clarion & Butterfly...this applies to you)
Post by: drossall on 22 May, 2013, 06:52:22 pm
Black is boring. You used to be able to get cable housings in those colours too. I've got black tape on a bike where black is a key colour, but why have it on this one?
Post by: Salvatore on 23 May, 2013, 01:41:57 pm
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5324/8790708253_ddd1d09deb_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/8790708253/)
Post by: clarion on 23 May, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
That's what I love to see. :thumbsup:
Post by: Butterfly on 26 May, 2013, 04:42:23 pm
Age-old cycling dilemma "Go for a ride or mow the lawn?..go for a ride or mow the lawn?....." (Yes Clarion & Butterfly...this applies to you)
Oh it's no dilemma - we haven't got a lawn mower :D
(Well we have, it's a beautiful vintage push-along one that isn't up to the rough-stuff that we call a lawn ::-))
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 May, 2013, 02:52:59 pm
Get yourselves a scythe! Or perhaps blades on the wheels of a bike?
Age-old cycling dilemma "Go for a ride or mow the lawn?..go for a ride or mow the lawn?....." (Yes Clarion & Butterfly...this applies to you)
Oh it's no dilemma - we haven't got a lawn mower :D
(Well we have, it's a beautiful vintage push-along one that isn't up to the rough-stuff that we call a lawn ::-))
Post by: andrewc on 27 May, 2013, 10:20:23 pm
Thorn Nomad at Boscastle harbour.
Post by: LEE on 28 May, 2013, 10:54:25 pm
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2820/8852959110_42857069bd_b.jpg)
Thorn Nomad at Boscastle harbour.
Nice setting.
What bottle-cage do you use for your Fuel bottle? I need one for large and small Trangia bottles. (That's the large on yours right?)
Post by: Deano on 28 May, 2013, 10:55:06 pm
http://bikebuddy.co.uk/
Post by: Kim on 28 May, 2013, 11:46:10 pm
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=29814.msg573417#msg573417 refers
Post by: andrewc on 29 May, 2013, 01:05:03 pm
That's a Bikebuddy.
http://bikebuddy.co.uk/
Correctamundo.
The Profile bottle cages I use for waterbottles will actually take a 1L Sigg bottle or a 1.5L mineral water bottle, so would probably take the Trangia bottle as well. I've used one in place of the Bikebuddy but it was too easy to knock the bottle out sideways. The Bikebuddy is very secure.
Post by: LEE on 29 May, 2013, 01:53:26 pm
I like the look of the Bike Buddy (very butch bit of kit).
Will check diameter of small Trangia fuel bottle to check it will accept both large and small otherwise will go for the cheaper, expandable cage + Toe-strap option.
Since I don't have camping plans beyond 4 day mini-breaks I expect the small bottle is more than adequate.
Post by: Deano on 29 May, 2013, 02:04:18 pm
I found it a bit fiddly to remove and fit the bottle, although it seems they do a quick release version as well.
I have one of the Topeak ones Kim mentions - that certainly takes the small Trangia bottle, I don't know if it would take the larger bottle.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 29 May, 2013, 02:34:07 pm
The BikeBuddy won't accept the small Trangia bottle. At least, mine wouldn't. I can't remember the exact model (it broke in India, which was mainly my own fault, as it was in quite an exposed spot under the top tube, and the handlebars kept smacking into the bottle, which deformed the bottle and eventually caused the cage to shear).
I found it a bit fiddly to remove and fit the bottle, although it seems they do a quick release version as well.
I have one of the Topeak ones Kim mentions - that certainly takes the small Trangia bottle, I don't know if it would take the larger bottle.
No, the BikeBuddy won't accept the small Tangia bottles. I have bent a standard metal bottle cage to accept it. I have the QR version which takes the large Trangia bottle just fine :thumbsup:
Post by: Deano on 29 May, 2013, 02:40:00 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 29 May, 2013, 02:41:30 pm
OD, how do you get on with the QR thingummy? That was my biggest annoyance with the non-QR version.
I've not used it much but thus far it seems fine.
Post by: russellm on 01 June, 2013, 01:28:11 pm
(http://www.russellmason.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DSCF6444-800x531.jpg)
Post by: tom_e on 02 June, 2013, 05:16:04 pm
Post by: edscoble on 11 June, 2013, 10:51:18 am
My fully loaded tourer isn't exactly fully loaded in the purest of sense, it doesn't even have a rack (I have a hatred toward them apart from the front one on my randonneur bike), but it's fully loaded with all the equipment (tent, sleeping bag, inflatable mattress, electronic stuff, clothes etc.) for a 1 month 3,000km tour from centre London to Casablanca, Morocco.
After the ride, I have spend several hours remembering the route as it was never planned, we just use the compass and head south, or if we got stuck, we use our Android phone with the Google Maps feature (off maps) that allowed us to pinpoint our location.
We never done any research, we just got up and go, the only thing we planned is the equipment and who's who carrying what;
(http://ridewithgps.com/ruter/2668030/full.png)
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2668030
My touring bike with 65" (48/20), I've never used the 22t cog and deeply regretted spinning down the Pyrenees and Sierra Nevada without a freewheel.
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh167/edscoble/touringbike.jpg)
As per the rules, here's the background;
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh167/edscoble/facebook_993112358jpg.jpg)
In Morocco;
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh167/edscoble/DSC00664.jpg)
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 11 June, 2013, 10:53:02 am
Post by: edscoble on 11 June, 2013, 10:59:53 am
Post by: edscoble on 11 June, 2013, 11:09:54 am
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 11 June, 2013, 11:26:19 am
Thank, been on a different forum before, just not this one (joined this due to Audax in general).
Yes, I've been following your builds / projects etc elsewhere.
Post by: clarion on 11 June, 2013, 12:03:23 pm
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 11 June, 2013, 12:35:47 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 11 June, 2013, 12:57:05 pm
Just wondering, why the aversion to racks?
Post by: edscoble on 11 June, 2013, 01:13:07 pm
Panniers, using the Ortlieb front roller classic as a benchmark to match the size of the kit I've took are 1590g altogether.
So, that mean over 2,000g worth of equipment before you start packing them and already affect how the bicycle handle (especially with thin-walled frame), I've tried that previously with the girlfriend when we went on a two days tour in the Lake District, I carry for two (just the necessary) and it was hell, frame flex, too much weight on the rear, have to pump the tyres over 100psi to compensate, etc. the fact it got a fixed wheel drivetrain didn't help.
The saddlebag (Revelate Designs) weight under 400g, the framebag is under 260g.
Panniers and rack = 2,000+g.
frame and saddle bag = 560g.
When fully packed with the saddlebag and rack, the biggest difference is that the bike feel softer, slightly more numb but still feel like a normal bike, one week into the tour, I've got used to the bicycle completely and it start to feel like an audax bicycle on a 200k.
The framebag is mounted in what we call a dead weight, in the centre of the triangle meaning it barely affect the bicycle handling, only how the steel tubing absorb the vibration (hence slightly numb).
Saddlebag act like a compressor, it's strap very tightly that when getting out of the saddle, it doesn't swing, if done properly, it shouldn't move in the slightest no matter how hard you shook the bicycle.
Post by: edscoble on 11 June, 2013, 01:32:02 pm
Wow, we need a kit list to see how you fit all that in !! Lightweight isn't the word.
Saddlebag.
1 man tent (excluding the poles).
sleeping bag (0 degree).
inflatable mattress (size of a coke can).
boxer short.
thick woolly sock for sleeping
Rapha softshell jacket (useless, used for five days but that's it).
merino baselayer.
medical bag (pill, bandage, cream, etc.)
European USB plug (France, Spain and Morocco use the same plug)
1x inner tube.
Framebag.
E-Werk convertor to power phone, camera, etc. from the dynamo.
2 camera (big and small, can do with just the small)
Kindle.
Android smartphone.
passport.
lips balm.
sun cream (threw away after France, I'm pink already).
maps (brought them while in the country, then throw away when left the country).
Red water bottle (under the downtube of the bike).
15mm spanner.
allen keys set (the Topeak Hexus II).
10+ patches.
2+ glue.
Leatherman Wave.
lots of zip tie.
Bike wear.
Rapha touring short (credit card + cash in tiny pocket).
Rapha merino jersey (fricking amazing).
Gore bibs short (threw it away after Spain).
normal sock for riding.
Vans Authentic shoes.
Probably missed some stuff, Ryan of Oak Cycles build the fork (to get the geometry more road-like with 73 degree HT and ST, with decent amount of trail), and add brazed on for the bottle cage and mount.
What I could do without;
Get rid of the Softshell jacket for a thin ultralight rain jacket and a Uniqlo ultralight down jacket, the latter is great for the morning when it's almost cold in the sleeping bag, both will pack smaller than the Softshell jacket too.
Only one camera, Sony RX100 with a larger sensor mean I don't have to take my bigger camera, also charge off the camera without a battery charger.
Clipless pedals, only because descending on a fixed wheel doing over 120rpm on the Pyrenees is hard work keeping your feet in the clip, I'll stay with clip and strap if I have a freewheel.
Post by: Pip on 14 June, 2013, 02:27:41 pm
Salsa Vaya 2 from 2011 with Avid BB5 discs. Very comfortable, but would need Sram's 40/27 chainset for proper hilly loaded touring. The 48/34 set up was fine for gradients up to 10% with this load
Black Isle:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/cliplesspedals/2013-03-11152454_zps7113d0d0.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/cliplesspedals/media/2013-03-11152454_zps7113d0d0.jpg.html)
Dornoch:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/cliplesspedals/2013-03-11150503_zpse20f97ba.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/cliplesspedals/media/2013-03-11150503_zpse20f97ba.jpg.html)
Post by: LEE on 19 June, 2013, 06:21:31 pm
Thorn Raven Tour. Rohloff Speedhub. (Basically same set up as last year but with the addition of a fuel bottle to support my change from gas stoves to Trangia)
Schwalbe Marathons 26x1.5"
Altura Barbag (may get an Ortlieb, just to be fully waterproof)
New Shimano A530 "touring pedals" (SPD on one side, flats on the other). These are really nice and allow you to pop to the shops in any old shoe or flip-flop.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JLGdetguqUw/UcAP2hKVxBI/AAAAAAAABQY/KzqQ2qM-4ys/w958-h719-no/IMG_8936.JPG)
Ortliebs were once again flawless. Simple things like separate strap adjusters on the lids (to hold clothing..etc) make life so much easier.
Yes the chain is slack but it's absolutely spent. I have a new sprocket, chain and chainring being delivered this week. It's been such a long time since they were replaced I can almost pull the chain off the chainring and sprocket.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Djc6Kucgea8/UcAP9gUaUZI/AAAAAAAABR0/5ZdpAkS1eTk/w958-h719-no/IMG_8990.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ndVfWZwG2rQ/UcA9ZTqcMjI/AAAAAAAABXg/uRI9OKSdWxU/w958-h719-no/IMG_9058.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RYPSe61E_Kg/Uc1nipHuLVI/AAAAAAAABgA/Ci4h23bNqbg/w958-h719-no/Raven+Tour+Normandy+D-Day+2500.jpg)
Here are the three bikes on tour that week (Keeks's Specialised Tri-cross, Urban_Biker's Dawes Ultra Galaxy and my Thorn Raven Tour)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VwD4Ct918AA/UcAQKZgvcyI/AAAAAAAABUI/j66Sb_dTuXM/w958-h719-no/IMG_9126.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3Tox5oW9wM0/UcA9glBG6JI/AAAAAAAABY0/19tHCsFdvTY/w958-h719-no/IMG_9127.JPG)
Got to say that Keeks's red Ortliebs really show up well.
Post by: edscoble on 21 June, 2013, 10:07:20 am
I would like to know just what you take? I assumed the biggest difference are the -5 sleeping bag (bulky!) and cooking equipment?
Just how was the bike with the heavyweight tyres? I'm always wary about those because of the difference in ride comfort.
Forget to says I already made a tiny blog about the London to Morocco trip;
http://londontocasablanca.tumblr.com/
Post by: Woofage on 21 June, 2013, 10:16:18 am
That look great, while I'm a great believer that you don't need a high end touring bike to go on a tour, it does make it a lots more enjoyable to ride for sure.
Thorn bikes are priced well into what I would call "high end" bike territory ;). I doubt you'd get any change out of £2k.
Post by: edscoble on 21 June, 2013, 10:31:30 am
(http://www.evanscycles.com/product_image/image/398/347/1fa/81751/product_page/jamis-coda-sport-2013-hybrid-bike.jpg)
Post by: marcusjb on 21 June, 2013, 10:33:04 am
That look great, while I'm a great believer that you don't need a high end touring bike to go on a tour, it does make it a lots more enjoyable to ride for sure.
Thorn bikes are priced well into what I would call "high end" bike territory ;). I doubt you'd get any change out of £2k.
If you read that statement, I think the poster is suggesting that the Thorn IS a high-end machine (and they are, especially with a Speedhub etc.).
Post by: edscoble on 21 June, 2013, 10:37:19 am
Post by: Woofage on 21 June, 2013, 10:47:22 am
I wasn't suggesting it wasn't a high end bike, just that while you don't need a high end bike, it does make the ride more enjoyable.
Sorry if I misunderstood. I agree with your statement: for example, a classic steel MTB frame makes a good foundation for a tourer and these are inexpensive and plentiful. My current runaround (although not actually used as a tourer there's nothing to stop it being one) is an On-One Inbred ex-MTB with rigid forks, road tyres and slightly faster gearing.
Post by: LEE on 24 June, 2013, 01:00:54 pm
That look great, while I'm a great believer that you don't need a high end touring bike to go on a tour, it does make it a lots more enjoyable to ride for sure.
Thorn bikes are priced well into what I would call "high end" bike territory ;). I doubt you'd get any change out of £2k.
You won't get any change at all out of £2K for a Thorn Rohloff any more. In 2007 you would have got £951 change. A huge chunk of that is the Rohloff hub. Looking back to 2007, when I bought mine, it was a very cheap way of buying the hub.
Thorn make the Sherpa though. Basically a derailleur version of the Raven Tour, for £1300 complete.
Nowadays £1300 isn't remotely high-end. Check out the Roberts "Rough Stuff" frame prices (Roberts charge £1000 for the Rohloff hub).
However, as mentioned above, Old School ridgid MTBs are worth seeking out as a perfect "global tourer" project. Their long wheel-bases, compared to modern MTBs, make them suited to carrying a full load.
Here is slope's 1992 Raleigh Peak
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/9107214333_dc33946051_o.jpg)
Here's my 1996 Saracen Force Trax. Compared to a modern budget MTB it's simply awful off road but very very lovely on it.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M-VmkWwOTXg/UQuQnzkiheI/AAAAAAAAA1o/nVRlET5UTdc/w958-h719-no/France+2008+1.jpg)
Post by: Ivo on 25 June, 2013, 07:52:49 pm
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/vilnius-moskou/large/IMGP6922.jpg)
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/vilnius-moskou/large/IMGP8586.jpg)
Post by: Ivo on 25 June, 2013, 07:53:48 pm
[IMG]http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/vilnius-moskou/large/IMGP9214.jpg)
Post by: LEE on 28 June, 2013, 11:48:33 am
I just had a quick flick through this thread again.
Aren't loaded touring bikes just lovely? There's something extremely purposeful about them.
Whenever I ride mine I love the mid-set it forces me into. They dictate your pace, there's no need to push harder as extra effort rarely increases your speed very much, so you're best bet is just sitting up, plodding along and taking in the views.
Keep posting photos.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 June, 2013, 12:59:49 pm
I can't see that last image Ivo. Is it just me?I can't see it either, though I can see the other two (which are lovely).
Post by: tom_e on 28 June, 2013, 01:36:55 pm
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/vilnius-moskou/large/IMGP8628.jpg)
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/vilnius-moskou/large/IMGP9214.jpg)
Mmmm, very adventure looking trip. Jealous.
Post by: Marco Stefano on 27 July, 2013, 02:06:38 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3707/9343882127_bbc3e70527_o.jpg)
Different makes of panniers, but at least similar colour schemes. I need a barbag for map & camera.
Post by: MAC on 13 August, 2013, 10:43:08 pm
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5010/5335240888_cbf158822d_b.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 August, 2013, 11:00:55 pm
Post by: LEE on 21 August, 2013, 09:43:07 am
My Santos Travelmaster 2.6 alu in Northumberland. Great trip.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5010/5335240888_cbf158822d_b.jpg)
Great reference photo for this thread.
1 - Nice scenery? Check
2 - Clear photo of bike and touring kit? Check
3 - Makes people want to load up a bike with camping gear and head off into the distance? Check.
Post by: clarion on 21 August, 2013, 10:19:19 am
Apparently ::-)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 August, 2013, 11:44:51 am
Post by: Kim on 21 August, 2013, 12:00:04 pm
How can you tell it's pointing the wrong way?
Handlebars are pointing downhill.
Post by: clarion on 21 August, 2013, 12:21:38 pm
How can you tell it's pointing the wrong way?
Something I've been ticked off for many times (sorry, fboab, this is just the most recent, albeit also t-i-c, example). Please note that there was a closer version of the wide angle image:
Quote
She doesn't get out much, so, while I was waiting for my meeting on Clapham Common early this morning, naturally I asked Whsh the Woodrup to pose.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMG_4026_zpscd58443b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ado15/media/IMG_4026_zpscd58443b.jpg.html)
Please note the valves almost aligned (yes, I do use collars and dustcaps - wanna make summat of it?), and the pedals as aligned as they could be and still support the bike. Apologies for my lack of forward planning, as I left the marmite at home.Clazza, clazza, classic n00b error there- it's facing the wrong way. We need to be able to take the mick out of your grubby sprockets. ;)I'm left handed and don't care :P
My sprockets are shockingly grubby, though. You've probably been saved from a real fright.
Post by: LEE on 21 August, 2013, 12:25:57 pm
Post by: clarion on 21 August, 2013, 12:30:42 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 August, 2013, 12:51:03 pm
Downhill? They're pointing across the path we can see, parallel to a path we can't see but infer is there from the signpost in the background. The path we can see is going downhill.How can you tell it's pointing the wrong way?
Handlebars are pointing downhill.
And, yes, he's definitely using a prop stand!
Post by: LEE on 21 August, 2013, 03:12:24 pm
??? He does ???
As opposed to a Band-Stand.
It was my attempt to win the Edinburgh Fringe best joke award.
Post by: clarion on 21 August, 2013, 03:20:42 pm
Post by: Butterfly on 21 August, 2013, 04:31:18 pm
??? He does ???
As opposed to a Band-Stand.
It was my attempt to win the Edinburgh Fringe best joke award.
It's alright Pet, I got it! ;D
Post by: Canardly on 22 August, 2013, 09:28:40 pm
Post by: andrewc on 26 August, 2013, 07:12:43 pm
Needs a "Long Vehicle" sign :D
Post by: Chabang on 06 September, 2013, 08:03:08 am
Post by: matthew on 06 September, 2013, 11:50:45 am
travel light?
You're new here and yet you have caught onto Butterfly's reputation for having everything when cycle camping.
Post by: clarion on 06 September, 2013, 05:50:08 pm
Post by: Kim on 06 September, 2013, 09:20:34 pm
To be fair, a lot of what was carried to Mildenhall was for the Little Duck.
He's quite compact and lightweight himself, but as with German touring recumbents, it's all the accessories that add up...
Post by: cycleman on 10 September, 2013, 10:33:04 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/9716977102_2b5c68171d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28688525@N08/9716977102/)
milldenhall2013 034 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28688525@N08/9716977102/) by cycleman108 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28688525@N08/), on Flickr
trailer is a carry freedom city carrying cooking gear ,downmat ,sleeping bag , sleeping bag liner ,tarpaulin,wild county venturi 2 tent . the panniers had cans of food and cloths in them :)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 11 September, 2013, 10:36:10 am
Post by: billplumtree on 11 September, 2013, 01:21:54 pm
Post by: LEE on 11 September, 2013, 04:06:04 pm
Post by: clarion on 11 September, 2013, 04:38:10 pm
Post by: RichForrest on 11 September, 2013, 07:50:45 pm
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/silverbackcyclist/549754_10151382218117729_1079782597_n.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/silverbackcyclist/media/549754_10151382218117729_1079782597_n.jpg.html)
On the way across to Watlington on a mini tour in June
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/silverbackcyclist/2013-06-29094354_zps7b14eb90.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/silverbackcyclist/media/2013-06-29094354_zps7b14eb90.jpg.html)
Post by: Kim on 15 September, 2013, 06:58:35 pm
From the top of Watership
Post by: BrianI on 15 September, 2013, 08:19:37 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/andover2013/Photo0681.sized.jpg)
From the top of WatershipDownUp this weekend. The photo doesn't show how astoundingly windy it was up there.
Nicely colour coordinated bike, seat and panniers! :)
Post by: Kim on 15 September, 2013, 08:22:34 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/andover2013/Photo0681.sized.jpg)
From the top of WatershipDownUp this weekend. The photo doesn't show how astoundingly windy it was up there.
Nicely colour coordinated bike, seat and panniers! :)
As opposed to the rims, which are neither the same colour, nor the same size, or even hole count.
Post by: PH on 15 September, 2013, 08:48:50 pm
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3679/9763045551_23c3f6f3a6_c.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 16 September, 2013, 08:31:50 am
Tina the Tandem (Orbit Routier) in Bures Hamlet (the Essex half of Bures) yesterday. We were on our way back from a night away at The White Horse, Edwardstone.
Post by: Otto on 16 September, 2013, 05:17:38 pm
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/ottocat/_1010044_zps831dfc53.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/ottocat/media/_1010044_zps831dfc53.jpg.html)
Post by: edscoble on 17 September, 2013, 08:58:40 am
Post by: Moultonaught on 17 September, 2013, 02:32:40 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/westywagen/DSC_0414_zps4e4ffd10.jpg)
Note the full size paper mache Captain Haddock in the background...
Post by: LEE on 17 September, 2013, 02:50:22 pm
Not the best pic, but does this count?
Hmmm..possibly getting "Worst Photo of a Fully Loaded Touring Bike 2013" award.
Good news is that it may get "Best Garden Furniture photo" award
Post by: Moultonaught on 17 September, 2013, 02:58:48 pm
nice lemon drizzle cake...
Post by: Viking on 12 November, 2013, 02:22:32 pm
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6068/6052707409_86e3284abc_z.jpg)
Post by: interzen on 19 November, 2013, 04:09:41 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/969414_10151404263201636_518761582_n.jpg)
First trip out on the green Genesis during the summer; I've refined my packing setup since then.
(the bike spec's changed a bit too - it's now in Tour Divide mode, meaning it's running fixed instead of singlespeed)
Post by: Andrij on 19 November, 2013, 08:45:32 pm
Post by: interzen on 19 November, 2013, 09:38:44 pm
Poor effort - the top of the front rack is empty! ;)
"This space intentionally left empty .... for cake"
Post by: LEE on 20 November, 2013, 08:12:19 am
Post by: interzen on 20 November, 2013, 10:25:33 am
Is that an intentional wild-flower garden or is Clarion your gardener?It's actually my back garden before it was visited by Mr. Glyphosate - the combination of a 'proper' summer and birds crapping seeds everywhere meant that keeping the weeds etc. under control was an absolute nightmare.
Still. it's an appropriate setting for an off-road touring machine :P
Post by: quixoticgeek on 12 December, 2013, 09:32:17 pm
(http://quixotic.eu/misc/TouringBe01_sm.jpg)
Touring in Belgium/France - Giant Escape M2 heavily fiddled with, Ortlieb Back Roller Classics, plus tent etc... on the rack.
(http://quixotic.eu/misc/TouringBrompton01_sm.jpg)
On the way to Netherlands for a couple of weeks cycling - Brompton with 8 speed upgrade, Old T bag on the front, Ortlieb dry bag bungied to a Carradice SQR rack on the back. In background, the Thalys I used to cheat my way there...
J
Post by: Torslanda on 12 December, 2013, 10:47:02 pm
BLOODY HELL! ;D Well done! Good effort! :thumbsup:
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 December, 2013, 11:55:49 pm
Post by: quixoticgeek on 13 December, 2013, 12:08:25 am
At first glance, I thought you'd wheeled your bike into a church!
I have cycled into pubs, offices, houses, stations, and other buildings, but never a church... It was the station at de Panne, just over the border into Belgium.
J
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 December, 2013, 12:15:40 am
Post by: niggle on 12 February, 2014, 08:08:05 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/12487217565_befed97d5b_z.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7302/12487369093_5de93c4894_z.jpg)
Not a standard Dalesman, I bought it as frameset and put my own selection of Ebay and internet bargain bits on it. Note extreme high rise Humpert High Charisma stem. Also note cheapo Canyon/Challenge rear panniers £20 each from Argos.
Post by: fhills on 13 February, 2014, 09:20:21 am
Also note cheapo Canyon/Challenge rear panniers £20 each from Argos.
Are those Karrimors on the front - the ones with the somewhat odd fixing system which involves fastening Karrimor's own "lugs" to the rack?
Post by: Ivo on 13 February, 2014, 10:55:44 am
Also note cheapo Canyon/Challenge rear panniers £20 each from Argos.
Are those Karrimors on the front - the ones with the somewhat odd fixing system which involves fastening Karrimor's own "lugs" to the rack?
Karrimor had several different fixing systems while the bags stayed the same. The 'odd' version is actually quite good if you don't use the plastic discs you have to fix to the rack but in stead simply thread a flat bungee through it (or a rubber band) and fix the bottom of the pannier in this way.
Post by: fhills on 13 February, 2014, 11:09:59 am
It's a nice system though a bit problematical if you want to use the panniers on a different bike or use different panniers on that bike where the discs might get in the way (and be wrongly positioined for a different size of Karrimor disc-lok pannier.
I use the small ones (which do look very like those on niggle's bike) on a bike which doesn't usually need a pannier swap. The two small ones on the back are very nice for a day ride and they look slightly retro which I like.
I'm not sure how your flat/bungee system works Ivo - are you referring to slotting something through the small slots at either side of the long disc-lok connecting slots?
My panniers click onto the top of the rail with a little "lockable" softish plastic lever but I must admit that I'd be a bit wary of using these on a major trip - these hooks don't look all that strong, you wouldn't be able to replace the locking lever thing if it broke and the entire hook assembly is fastened by a screw.
Do get back to us niggle about what those panniers are.
Post by: niggle on 13 February, 2014, 11:45:35 am
Post by: fhills on 13 February, 2014, 12:34:09 pm
Yours maybe a slightly earlier system than mine.
Mine use the Disc-lok, BLUE locking buttons and the rail is plastic (though no worse for that).
Pity that Karrimor went the way of so much British industry.
Post by: niggle on 13 February, 2014, 02:33:50 pm
Post by: Ivo on 13 February, 2014, 09:10:45 pm
The Karrimors are attached to the rack by plastic hooks with red locking buttons (which you can just see above the panniers). They are pretty secure in use and quite quick and easy to attach and detach, but yes they do look a bit flimsy and are no doubt completely irreplacable, though possibly another hook system could be attached to the metal rails?
When your hooks break (I seldom had them break, only in an accident), you can fix the bags to the rack with zip-ties or a cableclamp.
Post by: niggle on 13 February, 2014, 11:05:52 pm
Certainly to carry on with a tour etc., and I do always have a few zip ties with me, but a permanent fix would be needed eventually so that I can remove and replace the panniers.The Karrimors are attached to the rack by plastic hooks with red locking buttons (which you can just see above the panniers). They are pretty secure in use and quite quick and easy to attach and detach, but yes they do look a bit flimsy and are no doubt completely irreplacable, though possibly another hook system could be attached to the metal rails?
When your hooks break (I seldom had them break, only in an accident), you can fix the bags to the rack with zip-ties or a cableclamp.
Post by: Ivo on 14 February, 2014, 08:19:43 am
Certainly to carry on with a tour etc., and I do always have a few zip ties with me, but a permanent fix would be needed eventually so that I can remove and replace the panniers.The Karrimors are attached to the rack by plastic hooks with red locking buttons (which you can just see above the panniers). They are pretty secure in use and quite quick and easy to attach and detach, but yes they do look a bit flimsy and are no doubt completely irreplacable, though possibly another hook system could be attached to the metal rails?
When your hooks break (I seldom had them break, only in an accident), you can fix the bags to the rack with zip-ties or a cableclamp.
It's indeed more something like, fix it at the roadside with zip ties, and replace the hooks at home. Last time I broke a hook on tour was 2002 I guess, when a Belgrade cardriver smashed his door into my pannier.
Post by: clarion on 04 April, 2014, 08:13:36 pm
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7402/13628825695_ea66507689_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mLki4n)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 April, 2014, 10:32:25 pm
Post by: Butterfly on 04 April, 2014, 10:42:04 pm
They must be Copenhagenistas or Amsterdammers or maybe evenAnd are staring at the steps up to the Worth Way thinking 'Who on Earth puts steps on a cycle route?' ::-) :facepalm:DoughnutsBerliners - from somewhere that riding a bike is a non-thing that you just do. Why else would they carry normal people suitcases on bike trailers? Unless they're Japanese, of course.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 April, 2014, 10:43:25 pm
Welcome to Britain!They must be Copenhagenistas or Amsterdammers or maybe evenAnd are staring at the steps up to the Worth Way thinking 'Who on Earth puts steps on a cycle route?' ::-) :facepalm:DoughnutsBerliners - from somewhere that riding a bike is a non-thing that you just do. Why else would they carry normal people suitcases on bike trailers? Unless they're Japanese, of course.
Post by: Vince on 04 April, 2014, 11:28:54 pm
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/VinceHall/CyclingStuff/Essex%20Weekend/20140328_185838_zps9e3990a9.jpg)
Post by: thing1 on 05 April, 2014, 02:21:10 am
... in South America (Torres del Paine; El Chalten)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-56jIZr4F7Yo/TX1kIop5MPI/AAAAAAAAAUc/8Dky4JLE5d0/s800/DSCF1015.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KWdQiHb52_c/TX116XVK7jI/AAAAAAAAAes/j1zH34Ip_p4/s800/DSCF1226.JPG)
... in California (with Extra wheel trailer)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2gXgE0lULDk/ULLozCrk29I/AAAAAAAACcc/Q1q1YcyrKuQ/s896/IMG_20121122_150351.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 April, 2014, 04:22:52 am
Post by: Tewdric on 05 April, 2014, 08:46:27 am
Post by: Pingu on 05 April, 2014, 10:41:13 pm
Post by: Thing2 on 06 April, 2014, 03:56:01 pm
I think something's missing.
One of the minor issues with cycling in remote areas is the lack of other people to take your photo. :D
Post by: Andrew Br on 06 April, 2014, 11:53:35 pm
On that basis, at least one of you could/should be in the picture ;).
It doesn't detract much from the awesomness though.
Deity/imaginary friend of choice, I'd love a tandem.
Post by: drossall on 07 April, 2014, 12:06:09 am
Unless I've got it very wrong, tandems are "bicycles made for two".Technically, they don't have to be for two; the defining feature of a tandem is that the seats are arranged one behind the other, because "tandem" means "at length". By contrast, a "sociable" cycle has the seats side by side.
Of course, neither arrangement is possible on a solo, but you could have more than two seats.
Post by: fhills on 07 April, 2014, 08:40:49 am
But on the subject of "tandems" and the ilk there is this, the bibici.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/d_cherubini/3772975700/?rb=1
I have seen someone quite merrily riding one solo - in fact as I rode past them it took me a while to figure out what it was.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 April, 2014, 05:29:53 pm
:D
Post by: LEE on 09 April, 2014, 09:56:00 am
Dobbin (Thorn Adventure, 2004 derailleur edition)
... in South America (Torres del Paine; El Chalten)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-56jIZr4F7Yo/TX1kIop5MPI/AAAAAAAAAUc/8Dky4JLE5d0/s800/DSCF1015.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KWdQiHb52_c/TX116XVK7jI/AAAAAAAAAes/j1zH34Ip_p4/s800/DSCF1226.JPG)
... in California (with Extra wheel trailer)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2gXgE0lULDk/ULLozCrk29I/AAAAAAAACcc/Q1q1YcyrKuQ/s896/IMG_20121122_150351.jpg)
Awesome (Literally, not in the American sense. True-life example - "Wow, this spreadsheet is Awesome!")
Can I suggest a £5 bendy mini tripod for allowing Thing 2 to be part of your slideshow?
Post by: Pip on 09 April, 2014, 07:32:31 pm
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/cliplesspedals/2014-03-20122622_zpsbba16b64.jpg)
Post by: thing1 on 09 April, 2014, 09:19:38 pm
Can I suggest a £5 bendy mini tripod for allowing Thing 2 to be part of your slideshow?
yah... I think I was actually carrying one of those - at least in South America. Suggestion of actually thinking to use the damn thing taken on board... (Although these days cycling snaps are almost always done with the phone, so needs procurement of a new tripod solution)
And thanks :)
Post by: fhills on 10 April, 2014, 08:07:05 am
Mini-tour in Kent
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/cliplesspedals/2014-03-20122622_zpsbba16b64.jpg)
Brave man doing even a mini tour on a Speed Pro - you've instantly beaten all those souls crossing deserts in my book.
Is that the 21 speed version? (I have one - great fun when working but .....)
Post by: Pip on 10 April, 2014, 10:39:14 am
The bike is about 9 years old, and I have never had a problem with it. The SRAM Dual drive hub gives a fantastic range of gears with an 11-28 + 7 speed cassette. The bike is as comfortable commuting in London, pottering about on a towpath or climbing a Spanish puerto.
On this trip, I returned home via Swains Lane in Highgate with two heavy panniers and a bar bag and stole the KOM on Strava!
(That's a terrible lie, for which I apologise :))
Post by: fhills on 10 April, 2014, 10:49:01 am
:)
You've been rather lucky I think.
I agree totally about the DualDrive though I use mine with the SRAM 12-32 cassette which is what I think it came with - great gearing - been up mountains on it - don't need any more.
I may now and again, to avoid boring other folks, send you the odd PM on this topic, if it's OK with you.
Always useful to know other Speed Proers - to swop info etc.
Post by: Pip on 10 April, 2014, 12:45:13 pm
Post by: LEE on 10 April, 2014, 12:58:41 pm
Can I suggest a £5 bendy mini tripod for allowing Thing 2 to be part of your slideshow?
yah... I think I was actually carrying one of those - at least in South America. Suggestion of actually thinking to use the damn thing taken on board... (Although these days cycling snaps are almost always done with the phone, so needs procurement of a new tripod solution)
And thanks :)
I got one of these off Ebay for <£5
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mini-Tripod-Stand-Holder-For-All-Mobile-Phone-Apple-iphone-Samsung-HTC-Nokia-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/F7YAAOxy2HFSVvly/$(KGrHqZ,!q4FE0wFToLYBSVvlySg9w~~60_12.JPG)
They are very plasticky but they work and weigh very little.
Post by: nikki on 11 May, 2014, 04:23:31 pm
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14157101451_ded71fab1f_z.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 May, 2014, 07:57:31 pm
OT, but I see TGL had not only the same cap as me but the same jersey - somehow it all looks much cooler (and simultaneously more sensible) on him!
Post by: tom_e on 18 May, 2014, 02:47:57 pm
Plus the other three members of the family's transport elsewhere (incl. another fully loaded adult bike and a followme). A succesful camping trip and a test run for summer holiday. :D
Post by: clarion on 18 May, 2014, 03:08:01 pm
Post by: IanDG on 18 May, 2014, 04:02:10 pm
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1384246_10152403641292486_2289881317336533884_n.jpg)
Post by: Salvatore on 18 May, 2014, 04:10:06 pm
Note:
handy spork bag under saddle
brand new barbag (handmade by Kelly)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2932/14026868170_f17afc680a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nnvndE)
Post by: jogler on 18 May, 2014, 07:05:40 pm
I like to travel somewhat lighter
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1384246_10152403641292486_2289881317336533884_n.jpg)
I too have pair of Agu Quorum rear panniers :)
Windy is the first other cyclist I have seen using them
& a pair of matching front panniers
Post by: tom_e on 18 May, 2014, 07:12:45 pm
I like to travel somewhat lighter;D Probably wise, but I think our mistake in that may have been a few years ago rather than this particular packing session.
Post by: Butterfly on 19 May, 2014, 01:08:36 am
I like the spare bike! :DI like to travel somewhat lighter;D Probably wise, but I think our mistake in that may have been a few years ago rather than this particular packing session.
Post by: bumper on 01 July, 2014, 12:22:55 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5509/14363257628_a926b9da2f_z.jpg) (http://flic.kr/p/nTes5U)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 July, 2014, 02:33:05 pm
Post by: Polar Bear on 01 July, 2014, 02:41:59 pm
I like to travel somewhat lighter
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1384246_10152403641292486_2289881317336533884_n.jpg)
I too have pair of Agu Quorum rear panniers :)
Windy is the first other cyclist I have seen using them
& a pair of matching front panniers
Never mind the panniers, just look at the view ...
Post by: bumper on 01 July, 2014, 02:56:52 pm
That's an inspiring photograph.
The sky was black about 2 hours after taking it. It thundered and drizzled a little but blue sky has resumed :thumbsup:
Post by: Robh on 01 July, 2014, 03:32:11 pm
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14517765016_3cd3ae4314.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/o7TkKo) (https://flic.kr/p/o7TkKo)
Post by: RichForrest on 07 July, 2014, 01:18:23 pm
Here it is parked next to our Fiesta for scale ;D ;D
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/silverbackcyclist/LoadedTandem_zps8eba0270.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2014, 01:20:45 pm
Good thing there's a flag on the back, though. You're so hard to see on the road...
Post by: interzen on 07 July, 2014, 01:28:21 pm
I like to travel somewhat lighterAnd I lighter still:
(http://36x17.org.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/og2-scaled.jpg)
Admittedly, I carry clothing and whatnot in a backpack but everything else I'm likely to need on an off-road tour is fixed to the frame in some way or another (I have a framebag but rarely use it since if there's a strong crosswind it makes the handling 'interesting')
Post by: RichForrest on 07 July, 2014, 01:30:54 pm
That looks strangely elegant, actually.
Good thing there's a flag on the back, though. You're so hard to see on the road...
May not be elegant when we try and climb a hill on it!!
Mind you I have changed the 28t for a 32t on the back (which may help!) and added an additional pannier rail to the top of the rack (held on with zipties of course).
Don't think we will have much trouble with traffic on it lol
ALC flag added for show ;D
Post by: Kim on 07 July, 2014, 01:33:21 pm
Post by: RichForrest on 07 July, 2014, 01:43:45 pm
Just in case it happens again ;D
Post by: perpetual dan on 07 July, 2014, 04:52:14 pm
I like to travel somewhat lighterAnd I lighter still:
...
What's the seat bag? Is it any good?
And ... the spare tube looks a bit exposed down there. Is it not filthy when you come to use it?
Post by: interzen on 07 July, 2014, 04:56:24 pm
Revelate Viscacha1 and 'yes'. Respectively.I like to travel somewhat lighterAnd I lighter still:
...
What's the seat bag? Is it any good?
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And ... the spare tube looks a bit exposed down there. Is it not filthy when you come to use it?Not excessively so - the downtube/BB shell gets in the way of the worst of the muck. Anyway, as Sod's Law dictates that you'll only get a puncture when it's pissing down with rain it's fairly easy to clean prior to fitting anyway.
1 - https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha
Post by: Deano on 07 July, 2014, 07:27:57 pm
I'm not in the market, just curious.
Post by: interzen on 07 July, 2014, 07:37:50 pm
Jeez, it's expensive, though.You get what you pay for - exchange rates don't help.
I'm currently researching options with respect to making my own gear, since there are a few things that I'd like that the Viscacha (or pretty much any other seatpack I've investigated) doesn't have.
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How's it compare to the alpkit thingie?No idea. I got fed up of waiting for Alpkit to get their act together and get their bag in stock so I pulled the trigger on a Viscacha instead. I don't regret it. I've pretty much given up on Alpkit now because their supply chain is utterly piss-poor.
Apparently andrewc has an Alpkit seatpack - obviously the stars aligned just so when he ordered it.
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And how much stuff do you get in it?Word of God (Eric Parsons, the guy who founded Revelate) is 8 litres expandable to 16-17 litres. Combining the seatpack and a backpack (Wingnut Enduro) I can carry enough clothing and the like for a 2-3 week off-road tour. That said, my touring setup has been fairly viciously optimised.
Post by: matthew on 09 July, 2014, 08:51:28 am
I put the trailer on the back of the tandem to see if it would fit and what it looked like for this weekends camping meet at Watlington.
Here it is parked next to our Fiesta for scale ;D ;D
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/silverbackcyclist/LoadedTandem_zps8eba0270.jpg)
And I assume you are sticking to main roads only so that the junctions have sufficient radius that you can make the corners. :P
That looks like an awesome setup, just don't take a wrong turn and have to U-turn.
Post by: cycleman on 09 July, 2014, 08:32:43 pm
Post by: davelodwig on 16 July, 2014, 03:08:10 pm
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10488745_1522046838026523_1148113782_n.jpg)
Post by: clarion on 16 July, 2014, 03:27:33 pm
Did you meet my sister btw?
Post by: LEE on 16 July, 2014, 03:49:25 pm
Post by: davelodwig on 16 July, 2014, 04:16:46 pm
Nice.
Did you meet my sister btw?
Yes we did, she was much faster than us though.
Post by: clarion on 16 July, 2014, 04:35:27 pm
Post by: davelodwig on 16 July, 2014, 05:01:20 pm
"...and it was all Yellow.."
Still need a yellow drybag for the tent to go in though.
Post by: Polar Bear on 16 July, 2014, 05:12:53 pm
Post by: nikki on 16 July, 2014, 07:55:27 pm
"...and it was all Yellow.."
Still need a yellow drybag for the tent to go in though.
Might one of these be a) The Right Yellow and b) big enough for the tent?
Waterproofing-wise, I can attest that they're rated at least up to 4 days touring in North Wales.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 July, 2014, 11:38:56 pm
Waiting at Stroud station for the train taking us to the start of the DunRun.I spy plant pots. Does this mean no more hanging baskets? :o :(
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10488745_1522046838026523_1148113782_n.jpg)
Post by: davelodwig on 17 July, 2014, 10:51:16 am
You need an Ortlieb Rack Pack. We have a yellow one which Mlle PB carries the sleeping bags in. I'm going to have a green or black one for easy stowage of the tent. Being an 'end to end' closure rather than stuffing the tent in from one end will make it easier and quicker, especially valuable when the weather is inclement.
We have a large collection of dry bags, it's just they generally have other stuff in them at home, and I forgot to remove the large winter sleeping bags from the big yellow one. I do like the ortliebs though and the fact it all clips together is great, might have to see if I can pick one up before our next trip.
Post by: clarion on 23 July, 2014, 06:21:04 pm
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3865/14723800604_2fc00b681f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/or6jX7)P7210016 (https://flic.kr/p/or6jX7) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Bikes belonging to Gill & Tony Pearson, en route around the coastline of Britain.
Post by: Deano on 31 July, 2014, 11:24:31 pm
Anyway, this was me last week, round the Applecross pensinsula:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2897/14794377971_2d91f31e2b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oxk49g)
Post by: Luke on 02 August, 2014, 03:19:12 pm
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3864/14744630344_e57c32eb60_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/osW5Uy)Brommie camping. (https://flic.kr/p/osW5Uy) by Hey look, it's Luke! (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Post by: Clare on 03 August, 2014, 08:32:56 am
Post by: woollypigs on 03 August, 2014, 08:58:24 am
Post by: Clare on 03 August, 2014, 09:51:27 am
Post by: epa611 on 03 August, 2014, 09:51:57 am
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d68/epa611/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/DSC_0308_zps68wsv346.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/epa611/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/DSC_0308_zps68wsv346.jpg.html)
Post by: Domestique on 03 August, 2014, 03:04:17 pm
A surprisingly capable set-up.
Been thinking about a front bag for my Brompton, that looks good.
What bag is that please?
Post by: Luke on 05 August, 2014, 06:22:47 pm
A surprisingly capable set-up.
Been thinking about a front bag for my Brompton, that looks good.
What bag is that please?
It's the standard S bag. I'd imagine it'd be ideal for commuting to an office, but it's not a great for camping stuff. Lots of small compartments and no real capacity for bulky items. It's also very not waterproof.
Post by: Domestique on 05 August, 2014, 07:05:49 pm
Post by: Pingu on 06 August, 2014, 10:48:49 pm
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3922/14846428792_c959f56d8a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oBVQ3d)
IMG_3631 (https://flic.kr/p/oBVQ3d) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/people/36539950@N00/), on Flickr
Post by: andrewc on 06 August, 2014, 11:40:52 pm
Post by: αdαmsκι on 21 August, 2014, 12:49:10 pm
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/14985784751_393ed29571.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 01:13:25 pm
I did a cycle camping tour to Greece using my Ribble audax bike.Blimey, I never thought I'd see a Ribble Blue on this thread :thumbsup: Amazing what you can do on them. I still love mine.(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/14985784751_393ed29571.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 01:16:21 pm
Post by: αdαmsκι on 21 August, 2014, 01:20:51 pm
By the way, what type of bag have you got slung under the cross bar?
A large Wildcat Ocelot (http://www.wildcatgear.co.uk/shop/frame-bags/ocelot/), which housed my waterproof jacket; arm & knee warmers; phone; wallet; keys; suncream; and bits of food for the road. An X-large would have been a better fit, but would have been too big for the other bikes.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 01:28:13 pm
Post by: LEE on 21 August, 2014, 01:29:49 pm
I did a cycle camping tour to Greece using my Ribble audax bike.I carry about the same amount of stuff on a day ride.(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/14985784751_393ed29571.jpg)
Post by: Andrij on 21 August, 2014, 01:39:04 pm
I did a cycle camping tour to Greece using my Ribble audax bike.Blimey, I never thought I'd see a Ribble Blue on this thread :thumbsup: Amazing what you can do on them. I still love mine.(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/14985784751_393ed29571.jpg)
Guess I should add this one...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YSZlMv7uE7o/Spw2BXMECbI/AAAAAAAAAWA/UkDm6y3WjgE/s800/IMG_0029.JPG)
On the climb along the D65 from Vieux Port to Le Val-Anger in Normandy.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 August, 2014, 01:45:52 pm
Post by: BobScarle on 21 August, 2014, 03:36:22 pm
(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w417/BobScarle/IMG_1475_zpsb14b915b.jpg) (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/BobScarle/media/IMG_1475_zpsb14b915b.jpg.html)
It is an audax bike but worked really well on a short tour recently. This picture is by lake Vyrnwy in Wales
Post by: haydenw on 21 August, 2014, 07:55:11 pm
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140523_180604_zps5560e156.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140523_180604_zps5560e156.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140524_193553_zps2ecaf750.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140524_193553_zps2ecaf750.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140525_121344_zps696e8185.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140525_121344_zps696e8185.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140525_191633_zps67c12079.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140525_191633_zps67c12079.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140526_102637_zps942ca666.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140526_102637_zps942ca666.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/hayden-w/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140526_174811_zps85500d21.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/hayden-w/media/Nottingham%20to%20Edinburgh/20140526_174811_zps85500d21.jpg.html)
Post by: LEE on 22 August, 2014, 12:45:06 pm
Post by: marcusjb on 22 August, 2014, 05:54:27 pm
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14814089947_470c56e4a8_z.jpg)
Post by: madcow on 06 September, 2014, 10:44:28 pm
Returning from Arran in June, on the Brodick -Ardrossan ferry. Fully loaded ,real steel Bob Jackson 631 tourer, built (not by me ) with close clearance so I can only fit 25mm tyres. However the wheels are from a tandem we used to own so they are 40 and 36 spokes, and Durano plus tyres are pretty robust . Only one visit from the p fairy , due to a patch coming adrift.
Full camping kit carried around Arran, Kintyre ,Jura and Islay .
My usual set up is front pannier 1-sleeping bag, thermarest , towel and lock
front pannier 2 -food
rear pannier 1 - clothing in plastic bags
rear pannier 2-cooking gear, stove etc.
Tent -Ortlieb nallo 2 GT on top of rack. (https://flic.kr/p/oPa77y)
Post by: Kim on 06 September, 2014, 11:00:26 pm
My usual set up is front pannier 1-sleeping bag, thermarest , towel and lock
front pannier 2 -food
rear pannier 1 - clothing in plastic bags
rear pannier 2-cooking gear, stove etc.
Tent -Ortlieb nallo 2 GT on top of rack.
It's interesting how much space people allocate to the different things.
My typical set up is:
Front pannier 1: Extra bike clothing layers, gadgetry, drugs, tools, spares, cable lock, misc valuables, etc.
Front pannier 2: Food, cooking gear, stove + fuel, "wet stuff" I remove mid-ride.
Rear pannier 1: Downmat, sleeping bag + liner(s), down jacket (unless it's seriously summer) in stuffsack, folding stool.
Rear pannier 2: Tent, cleanish clothing (in drybag), wash things including towel (in drybag), dirty clothing (loose at bottom of pannier).
Strapped to top of rack position for drying clothing and temporary attachment of extra supplies. Mesh stuffsacks are your friend for this.
Shuffle that around a bit if it's a DF bike and the front panniers need to be kept light compared to the back.
I suppose a major influence is how much bedding you need for a decent (and warm) night's sleep, and how much food and clothing you can get away with not carrying on a given trip. I can't reasonably see how I could get away with not taking up the equivalent of nearly a whole rear pannier with bedding, for example.
Post by: Ivo on 07 September, 2014, 09:57:59 am
Post by: madcow on 07 September, 2014, 11:20:29 pm
I am unlikely to test it to extreme but it's nice to know.
Tent goes in a separate stuff sack because its often damp.
Post by: LEE on 09 September, 2014, 01:43:49 pm
Final approach to the Ferry at Ouistreham (Caen) from the west.
Post by: Moultonaught on 09 September, 2014, 01:55:56 pm
(Nice bike and set up too!)
Post by: Deano on 17 September, 2014, 11:21:28 pm
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3877/15248622476_4b60c6fe61_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/15248622476/)
Post by: phil653 on 19 October, 2014, 04:09:59 pm
Mission accomplished: Portuguese coast by British Eagle training bike transformed in fully loaded tourer. Very close clearance for 28mm tyres forced the rear brake in-board. Note coordinated bottles but couldn't manage lining up the valves too, sorry.
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/DSCF4711_zps84ff3ed0.jpg)
Post by: clarion on 29 January, 2015, 06:10:18 pm
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15774895777_f1aca26c16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF)PA270003e (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
Post by: Kim on 29 January, 2015, 06:13:56 pm
Post by: clarion on 29 January, 2015, 06:31:49 pm
Post by: phil653 on 29 January, 2015, 06:42:35 pm
Post by: Butterfly on 29 January, 2015, 09:48:40 pm
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15774895777_f1aca26c16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF)PA270003e (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
What goes where? I'm struggling to match the number of items to their possible resting places on just those two bikes.
The bike seat goes on the other bike.
The large black Alturas with grey pockets go where the bike seat is.
The smaller grey Alturas go on the front rack of that bike.
The Caradice super C saddle bag goes on that bike.
The tent goes under it's flap.
The large red Ortliebs go under the bike seat on my bike. (The bags go on first then the sleeping bags and pillows are inserted).
The small red Ortliebs go on the front rack thereof.
The Ortlieb barrel bag on the far right of the picture goes behind the bike seat, attached to the top of the large Ortliebs.
The black Basil basket with an oasis bottle sticking out of it goes on my handlebars.
The baby goes in the seat.
Post by: Jurek on 29 January, 2015, 10:01:11 pm
A different (and admirable) world to mine.
I tend to ride with a sixpence in the jersey pocket, and hope for the best....
:thumbsup:
It's such a shame that Joan appears to have taken a crestfallen / WTF is this? pose in that photo ;)
Post by: Kim on 29 January, 2015, 10:09:53 pm
The bike seat goes on the other bike.
The large black Alturas with grey pockets go where the bike seat is.
The smaller grey Alturas go on the front rack of that bike.
The Caradice super C saddle bag goes on that bike.
The tent goes under it's flap.
The large red Ortliebs go under the bike seat on my bike. (The bags go on first then the sleeping bags and pillows are inserted).
The small red Ortliebs go on the front rack thereof.
The Ortlieb barrel bag on the far right of the picture goes behind the bike seat, attached to the top of the large Ortliebs.
The black Basil basket with an oasis bottle sticking out of it goes on my handlebars.
The baby goes in the seat.
...and then it all goes on a train. :D
Post by: Joe.B on 29 January, 2015, 10:24:50 pm
Post by: clarion on 29 January, 2015, 10:47:42 pm
Post by: nikki on 30 January, 2015, 06:46:54 am
Post by: Kim on 30 January, 2015, 01:43:48 pm
Post by: Vince on 30 January, 2015, 01:45:32 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 January, 2015, 01:52:32 pm
Very impressive! :thumbsup: Both in terms of load and organisation.(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15774895777_f1aca26c16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF)PA270003e (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on FlickrWhat goes where? I'm struggling to match the number of items to their possible resting places on just those two bikes.
The bike seat goes on the other bike.
The large black Alturas with grey pockets go where the bike seat is.
The smaller grey Alturas go on the front rack of that bike.
The Caradice super C saddle bag goes on that bike.
The tent goes under it's flap.
The large red Ortliebs go under the bike seat on my bike. (The bags go on first then the sleeping bags and pillows are inserted).
The small red Ortliebs go on the front rack thereof.
The Ortlieb barrel bag on the far right of the picture goes behind the bike seat, attached to the top of the large Ortliebs.
The black Basil basket with an oasis bottle sticking out of it goes on my handlebars.
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The baby goes in the seat.And then, if he's anything like mine was at that age, he pushes you in the back up hill. "Faster! I'm helping you!"
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 January, 2015, 01:53:31 pm
I don’t know about anyone else round here but this thread is one of my favourite things on the internet. Guaranteed to lift my spirits and have me dreaming and scheming for a we tour.Yep. Quite a few of these threads do that for me, actually. It's kind of endorphins by proxy through the interweebles. Not as good as the real thing, but can prompt you out there.
Post by: Moultonaught on 30 January, 2015, 01:59:54 pm
I don’t know about anyone else round here but this thread is one of my favourite things on the internet. Guaranteed to lift my spirits and have me dreaming and scheming for a we tour.Yep. Quite a few of these threads do that for me, actually. It's kind of endorphins by proxy through the interweebles. Not as good as the real thing, but can prompt you out there.
Very true, and even if it doesn't prompt you out there, it's a reminder that, odds on, you'll be out there sometime soon-ish...
Post by: LEE on 30 January, 2015, 02:08:28 pm
This is what two bikes worth of luggage looks like:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15774895777_f1aca26c16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF)PA270003e (https://flic.kr/p/q2YsVF) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
It's a good job you cycle because you probably all wouldn't fit in a car with that lot.
Post by: marcusjb on 02 February, 2015, 09:00:29 am
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8618/16399907926_79b5948208_c.jpg)
Post by: Jayjay on 02 February, 2015, 08:16:52 pm
Ely town centre, getting some breakfast calories before heading North and homewards.
Ice Sprint FS, M+ tyres, Radical small sidepods, Ortlieb Roller Classics, MSR Hubbahubba tent, waterproofs and
The Cateye 1100 rear light is on a DIY lightpole to clear the loaded rack.
Breakfast was fried and good.
Post by: cycleman on 03 February, 2015, 07:51:17 am
Post by: Wobbly John on 03 February, 2015, 08:01:39 am
... talking of which, there'd be a couple of inches of snow there if it was today!
Post by: mcshroom on 15 March, 2015, 06:08:36 pm
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vq6b5LDlNc4/VQXAfoS9pgI/AAAAAAAAI-s/_PHwRbe43ac/w737-h553-no/20150310_155000.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cg7ywJ6YB4A/VQXA4_A1BWI/AAAAAAAAI_M/LyiV-t1H4t8/w737-h553-no/20150310_134012.jpg)
Post by: Ruthie on 15 March, 2015, 07:23:49 pm
How was the bike? Everything you'd hoped for?
Post by: mcshroom on 15 March, 2015, 07:29:42 pm
I think one of the striking things was that when I took the bags off, though it was obviously lighter, the riding characteristics were very similar to loaded up. When I did the same with my Vantage, the bike felt really skittish unladen, so the horizon must be more stable as a tourer.
The brown bar tape is looking a little scruffy now on one side as it got damaged being dragged around in the wet, but yes I do like it. I could do with finding a silver stem to finish the bike off too :)
Post by: quixoticgeek on 15 March, 2015, 07:40:23 pm
(http://photos.quixotic.eu/Microadventure-2015/01-24/brompton-touring01_sm.jpg)
Slightly different to most of the tourers pictured in this thread.
My Brompton set for a weekends camping. Front bag contains my huge synthetic winter sleeping bag, 3L of water. Rear bag contains everything else.
Julia
Post by: Butterfly on 22 March, 2015, 08:50:47 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/103/292166197_16764b670f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rPqQe)Picture 022b (https://flic.kr/p/rPqQe) by misssherriff (https://www.flickr.com/people/52883981@N00/), on Flickr
Post by: Butterfly on 22 March, 2015, 11:15:49 pm
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8734/16711946390_a3c4c25c42_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rsM6qJ)marjory (https://flic.kr/p/rsM6qJ) by misssherriff (https://www.flickr.com/people/52883981@N00/), on Flickr
Post by: sg37409 on 23 March, 2015, 05:57:12 am
Not quite as fully loaded as many (but south-east Asia doesn't require ever so many clothing options).
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8618/16399907926_79b5948208_c.jpg)
Excellent. Must admit am a bit surprised you left the mudguards on though.
Post by: marcusjb on 26 March, 2015, 08:05:50 am
We rode through very hefty, but warm rain for sustained periods at points.
Post by: Deano on 27 March, 2015, 11:17:38 pm
I was quite pleased to have mudguards in India, despite it being pre-monsoon.
Post by: fhills on 28 March, 2015, 07:55:51 am
Excellent. Must admit am a bit surprised you left the mudguards on though.
What a bizarre comment.
Some private joke?
Post by: sg37409 on 01 April, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
Post by: marcusjb on 01 April, 2015, 03:06:39 pm
Post by: sg37409 on 01 April, 2015, 03:46:05 pm
Have a thorn tandem with S&S which has 3 couplers only and leaves the timing chain on. Avoids lot of dirty hassle there at expense of getting into 2 suitcases. (Makes much easier/faster to get into car though)
Post by: marcusjb on 01 April, 2015, 03:53:44 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 April, 2015, 04:08:26 pm
Carbon drive belts for true avoidance of dirty hassle! So nice to take them off and have perfectly clean hands.
So your lovely Co-motion tandem has hub gears?
Post by: marcusjb on 01 April, 2015, 04:39:38 pm
Carbon drive belts for true avoidance of dirty hassle! So nice to take them off and have perfectly clean hands.
So your lovely Co-motion tandem has hub gears?
Rohloff and dual Carbon Drives - it's a good combination and we're expecting a lot of life out of the belts (20000+km is not unheard of - sure it's probably still not cheaper than chains even with that life span, but beyond cost, the cleanliness is a major factor, they are quiet (do squeak a bit in sandy conditions) and look cool as anything. The Rohloff works well touring. Wouldn't choose it on a bike for going fast - but loaded touring, it's good so far.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 April, 2015, 05:00:53 pm
Post by: woollypigs on 01 April, 2015, 05:05:38 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 April, 2015, 05:10:55 pm
OD! got your Surly yet?
No but I think it's a certainty - and I shall be ensuring it appears on this thread in due course! First of all I need to do a couple of jobs on the Ribble and make some room in the Man Cave. Hopefully after Easter I will be able to pull the trigger.
Post by: woollypigs on 01 April, 2015, 05:13:34 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 01 April, 2015, 05:14:48 pm
\o/ do it can't go wrong with atLHT.Disc Trucker :thumbsup:
Post by: woollypigs on 01 April, 2015, 05:59:46 pm
Post by: mmmmartin on 01 April, 2015, 11:17:55 pm
Post by: Butterfly on 09 April, 2015, 10:17:17 pm
Setting off for our Easter camping trip. :)
Post by: clarion on 09 April, 2015, 10:19:07 pm
Post by: Ivo on 10 April, 2015, 08:32:25 am
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/600mt2015/large/IMGP4352.jpg)
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/600mt2015/large/IMGP4373.jpg)
It's 9 years since I first past this signpost, it looks like they never cleaned it since then.
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/600mt2015/large/IMGP44421.jpg)
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/600mt2015/large/IMGP4481.jpg)
Post by: Butterfly on 21 April, 2015, 11:45:24 pm
Post by: clarion on 22 April, 2015, 12:56:17 pm
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7618/16611618093_954cef2c7d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/riUTjv)P4190212e (https://flic.kr/p/riUTjv) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
Panniers older than Butterfly:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8818/16609378324_cd8bed6d92_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/riHpvN)P4190216e (https://flic.kr/p/riHpvN) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8759/17231811025_6251dc858a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sfHx56)P4190217e (https://flic.kr/p/sfHx56) by TJ Clarion (https://www.flickr.com/people/93751227@N04/), on Flickr
The waterproof cover was made by Graham to cover saddlebag, mat and tent. It incorporates a pocket at the back for shopping.
Post by: Canardly on 23 April, 2015, 08:44:01 pm
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m158/canardly1/P1000356_zps28c0a215.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/canardly1/media/P1000356_zps28c0a215.jpg.html)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 April, 2015, 11:48:03 am
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8741/17099961588_d2d0df2a92.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s44LPW)
The remaining cooling towers at Didcot are not really visible in the photo but were quite distinct in real life. And the shaggy horned cattle looked enormous when it was sitting down.
And the next day outside Crofton beam engines:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7657/17099971498_2456573385.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/s44PLN)
Note the YACF jersey draped over the tent at the back for bonus points (it was that kind of weather where jersey + base layer was too cool, but putting a jacket on was too warm, so I took the jersey off and wore the jacket without it).
Post by: Vince on 27 April, 2015, 12:02:53 pm
Checkendon, Oxfordshire.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 April, 2015, 12:32:22 pm
While I'm doing this stuff, here's another one from somewhere else in Berkshire on what turned out to be wrong taken-on-impulse bridleway but had a handy post to lean the bike against.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7714/17287241261_e05d8a9dfd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/skBCxP)
Note the hat drying on the back (I was still wearing the jersey at that point).
Post by: Joe.B on 18 May, 2015, 10:14:18 am
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5326/17522863865_90bb96f50f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sGrfWv)A short recumbent camping tour around the argyll sea lochs. (https://flic.kr/p/sGrfWv) by Joe.Audax (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5460/16900204564_633e024dac_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rKpY2j)A short recumbent camping tour around the argyll sea lochs. (https://flic.kr/p/rKpY2j) by Joe.Audax (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5350/17520576132_69f38043ae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sGewSQ)A short recumbent camping tour around the argyll sea lochs. (https://flic.kr/p/sGewSQ) by Joe.Audax (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: Ivo on 20 May, 2015, 09:27:38 pm
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP9632.jpg)
Italy
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP0334.jpg)
Croatia
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP0410.jpg)
Bosnia
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP0561.jpg)
Croatia again
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP0817.jpg)
Slovenia
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP1185.jpg)
Italy again
(http://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/rondjeadria/large/IMGP1229.jpg)
Austria
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 20 May, 2015, 09:42:19 pm
\o/ do it can't go wrong with atLHT.Disc Trucker :thumbsup:
Correct. (I'm thinking of selling mine)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7673/17882558186_50c8026a48_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tfdMwJ)
Post by: Deano on 20 May, 2015, 09:53:08 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8832/17721630660_296f4dfaff_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sZZZod)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5331/17882837986_ef32132555_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tffdGS)
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 20 May, 2015, 10:02:24 pm
Travellin' light up to Tan Hill on the Surly 1x1:
Did you camp there? I keep meaning to.
*Notices Hilleberg bag. Shuts up.*
Post by: Deano on 20 May, 2015, 10:23:53 pm
It was my mate's first cycle camping trip:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8842/17722335900_ee109171f8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t14B2w)
(He doesn't do lycra).
It's quite a good destination from here, cos although it was bastard hard getting up there into the wind, it was all downhill on the way back, with a massive tailwind. Actually, the Etape du Dales was coming up Arkengarthdale on the Sunday when we were going back home, and we both enjoyed seeing them struggle into the wind. A few riders were blown to a standstill.
The only problem with staying there is dealing with the hangover in the morning. The last thing I remember from Saturday night is my mate asking what time they stopped serving, and the barmaid replying that it was quarter to one, and they hadn't stopped yet.
Bombing down Sleightholme Moor shook the cobwebs away, though ;D
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 20 May, 2015, 10:40:41 pm
Yes, we did - they charge a fiver. All the prices have gone up (last time I camped there, the landlord waved his hands and asked for two quid in the charity box, though I still put a fiver in) - it always felt fairly cheap, as I think they were underselling themselves, given they have a captive audience.
It was my mate's first cycle camping trip:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8842/17722335900_ee109171f8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t14B2w)
(He doesn't do lycra).
It's quite a good destination from here, cos although it was bastard hard getting up there into the wind, it was all downhill on the way back, with a massive tailwind. Actually, the Etape du Dales was coming up Arkengarthdale on the Sunday when we were going back home, and we both enjoyed seeing them struggle into the wind. A few riders were blown to a standstill.
The only problem with staying there is dealing with the hangover in the morning. The last thing I remember from Saturday night is my mate asking what time they stopped serving, and the barmaid replying that it was quarter to one, and they hadn't stopped yet.
Bombing down Sleightholme Moor shook the cobwebs away, though ;D
And that is the exact reason why I haven't stayed there yet, just don't trust myself :D I've always dropped down to Muker or stayed in Hawes.
Post by: Jayjay on 22 June, 2015, 06:28:20 pm
Ice Sprint FS, Radicaldesign small side pods, Ortlieb roller classics and MSR tent on top with my waterproofs. The white thing on the headrest is my high level light mount for a Cateye 1100, the dynamo light on the rack leaves little other space for a secondary light with luggage attached. M+ tyres have over 10000 miles on, though the tread is getting low.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/398/19033035256_5a70de9412_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uZThhh)York Cycle Rally 2015 (https://flic.kr/p/uZThhh) by John Jackson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/29179705@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: IanDG on 27 July, 2015, 10:57:42 am
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7413/27470665066_e797d1716f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HRukEj)11755141_10153496418122486_349613486415278634_n (https://flic.kr/p/HRukEj) by ian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/acf_windy/), on Flickr
Post by: LEE on 27 July, 2015, 01:46:31 pm
Brief is similar but not so rigid.
1 - Try to post only photos of your bike in an obvious touring role (definitely none propped up against a blank garage wall).
2 - The photo should give a sense of your camping/touring trip. The photo should have some merit without the bike in there.
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 27 July, 2015, 01:57:52 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/496/19938787496_dd790b80a4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd)
daleftw-12.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd) by Dale FTW (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129018234@N07/), on Flickr
Post by: IanDG on 27 July, 2015, 02:11:02 pm
Loaded for the off - A weekend away to help at the National 400
Nice bike but let's try to remember the guidelines...
Brief is similar but not so rigid.
1 - Try to post only photos of your bike in an obvious touring role (definitely none propped up against a blank garage wall).
2 - The photo should give a sense of your camping/touring trip. The photo should have some merit without the bike in there.
Stornoway Ferry Terminal and full bags - suggests I'm going somewhere further than 'rgate?
Post by: clarion on 27 July, 2015, 02:15:56 pm
It is a very, very fine bicycle, and I'd say it was (at least partially) loaded :)
Post by: IanDG on 27 July, 2015, 02:20:52 pm
Post by: Kim on 27 July, 2015, 02:21:18 pm
"Fully loaded" is in the eye of a beholder. I've no objection to lightweight bikepacking for credit-card touring, sensible off-roading or hard people who can sleep in audax hotels; it's all good. :thumbsup:
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 27 July, 2015, 02:28:18 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/471/19965021905_9926af4e6d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wqeXrB)
daleftw-8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wqeXrB) by Dale FTW (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129018234@N07/), on Flickr
Post by: woollypigs on 27 July, 2015, 02:32:32 pm
Windy is clearly going somewhere, not that many places on Windy's back yard to go cycle touring if you live on the island and don't want to repeat your last trip :)
I dream about going touring in Scotland and the ferries will be a big part of that tour and one of the reason for why I want to go touring in Scotland.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 July, 2015, 04:23:59 pm
Nevertheless, I think Lee does well to remind us of the guidelines for the thread, if only to prompt some more scenic photos.
Post by: IanDG on 27 July, 2015, 04:27:05 pm
Nevertheless, I think Lee does well to remind us of the guidelines for the thread, if only to prompt some more scenic photos.
+1 to that
Post by: nikki on 27 July, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
>>> https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=92143.msg1896062#msg1896062
Post by: Mr Larrington on 27 July, 2015, 06:36:14 pm
Stunning views at the top of Hartside...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/496/19938787496_dd790b80a4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd)
daleftw-12.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd) by Dale FTW (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129018234@N07/), on Flickr
That looks horribly familiar. One time we approached from the Alston side and it was as though someone had put the mist and murk in place with the aid of a ruler. Bright sunshine to the east then BANG!
Post by: LEE on 27 July, 2015, 08:07:01 pm
Surely, this is bikepr0n, not a photo competition?
Well it was supposed to be Bike 'n' Location Pr0n as we have several galleries for nice bikes already.
Deano is Lord & Master of the perfect combo. (When he's not breaking up Tarmac using his body parts. Get Well Soon Deano).
No qualms about the luggage content, this thread was intended for any amount of touring luggage (see OP) as a breakaway from the very strict rules of www.fullyloaded.com
I expect Windy will soon have a camera full of jealousy-inducing location Pr0n.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 July, 2015, 09:34:10 am
Post by: marcusjb on 28 July, 2015, 09:51:11 am
Stunning views at the top of Hartside...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/496/19938787496_dd790b80a4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd)
daleftw-12.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wnVuSd) by Dale FTW (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129018234@N07/), on Flickr
That looks horribly familiar. One time we approached from the Alston side and it was as though someone had put the mist and murk in place with the aid of a ruler. Bright sunshine to the east then BANG!
It looks horribly unfamiliar. I have only ridden it once; at night in a howling gale. The visibility was so poor and the wind so strong, I really couldn't tell whether I was going up or down, so missed the top completely!
Post by: Deano on 03 August, 2015, 09:38:34 pm
Deano is Lord & Master of the perfect combo. (When he's not breaking up Tarmac using his body parts. Get Well Soon Deano).
Cheers, LEE!
Have another photo (breaks all the rules, but what the hell):
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6682875755_3b90501710_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bbxu8M)
Post by: mcshroom on 11 October, 2015, 11:28:06 pm
oh and
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EhAxVKSAgRU/VhA2lUCmX8I/AAAAAAAAKls/36E-DusY2uI/s640-Ic42/20150928_160339.jpg)
Post by: Deano on 12 October, 2015, 10:40:30 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5807/22104244392_f8f492d0d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zFh2KW)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 13 October, 2015, 01:56:07 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EhAxVKSAgRU/VhA2lUCmX8I/AAAAAAAAKls/36E-DusY2uI/s640-Ic42/20150928_160339.jpg)Fully Laid-en.
The Harris Tweed with the deerstalker, please.
Post by: perpetual dan on 27 October, 2015, 11:23:02 pm
(http://blog.a-dan.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/20151024-_1060744.jpg)
It's an on-one inbred, with normal pannier-rack friendly chain-stay mounted disc brakes. I have bags that weren't on the bike, but that was enough to keep me going for a few days.
Post by: Ruthie on 28 October, 2015, 08:38:14 pm
A steel Dawes Horizon, and an aluminium Dawes Horizon, both blue, different vintages.
Post by: mcshroom on 28 October, 2015, 08:53:52 pm
Was wonderful up there though :)
Post by: Ruthie on 28 October, 2015, 09:31:59 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5752/21488890514_4a9f1164ec_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yJUbuj)Northwest Highlands 2015 012 (https://flic.kr/p/yJUbuj) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: mcshroom on 28 October, 2015, 09:39:13 pm
Post by: hujev on 13 November, 2015, 11:02:09 pm
(http://hujev.net/image/velo/med/rczPA143389.jpg)
In the Upper Peninsula (aka "UP", Michigan), October 2015.
surly LHT with 'mostly good parts', but the frame etc. being replaced next tour with Woodrup on order!
More about ye bikke: http://rjl.us/velo/2005LHT.htm
Where?: http://upbt.org/whyup.htm
Post by: Ruthie on 27 November, 2015, 06:32:12 pm
Post by: Pingu on 29 November, 2015, 11:23:14 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/566/21924367709_4282261200_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zpo7FP)Northwest Highlands 2015 002 (https://flic.kr/p/zpo7FP) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
:thumbsup:
Post by: vantage on 10 January, 2016, 10:21:26 am
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z441/billmcfadden76/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/20150615_081706_zpsd1frfrdv.jpg) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/billmcfadden76/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/20150615_081706_zpsd1frfrdv.jpg.html)
Post by: Ruthie on 10 January, 2016, 10:26:03 am
Post by: vantage on 10 January, 2016, 12:12:19 pm
Post by: woollypigs on 10 January, 2016, 01:34:23 pm
... before the gps got me lost ...Clearly not lost enough since you found your way home :)
Nice looking bike and set up :)
Post by: bumper on 10 January, 2016, 01:44:44 pm
Post by: Kim on 10 January, 2016, 01:52:21 pm
... before the gps got me lost ...Clearly not lost enough since you found your way home :)
It's not a bug, it's a feature. GPSes are second only to NCN signage for taking you to places you'd never normally explore. ;D
Post by: Tomsk on 10 January, 2016, 08:39:50 pm
2nd failed attempt at touring last year. Got 20 ish miles from home before the gps got me lost (clearly technology was to blame), chickened out and returned home :facepalm:
But...getting lost is how you happen on the unexpected and interesting, and sometimes bad - yes, I know. In life as in cycle-touring...
Post by: Deano on 10 January, 2016, 09:25:21 pm
I've done the same thing a few times - I've got the bike ready and taken ages packing everything, then gone "sod it" and went home. The most was Kirkby Stephen, which made for a near-100 mile day ride with a camping load :facepalm: - the least was about three quarters of a mile into a headwind. If you're not in the mood, you're not in the mood.
Post by: Ruthie on 10 January, 2016, 10:04:11 pm
That's an Avior X2 on the back too which I believe was what you used touring with mcshroom :)
That was such a good tent. Great minds think alike and get lost twenty miles from home-alike eh?
Post by: vantage on 11 January, 2016, 03:33:43 pm
Some lighter kit has since been bought...specifically that big stupid hulking mat.
Absolutely love that bike to bits though :)
Post by: vantage on 11 January, 2016, 03:35:14 pm
That's an Avior X2 on the back too which I believe was what you used touring with mcshroom :)
That was such a good tent. Great minds think alike and get lost twenty miles from home-alike eh?
;D
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 11 January, 2016, 04:52:06 pm
I did that once, too. I was using the same panniers as you!The bags of misadventure!
Post by: BobScarle on 18 February, 2016, 09:40:31 am
Last year I rode from Redditch to Mid-Wales via this bridge in Ludlow, and had some lovely weather.
(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w417/BobScarle/IMG_1551_zpsllb8wuf7.jpg)
Now I have got my mind accepting that summer will happen again this year I can start to plan my route. I have seven days to play with so the tour will be a good bit longer.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 February, 2016, 10:39:24 am
But before I do I thought I should post a picture of my bike. Why? Because I want to.The best reason! Equal first with 'Because we want to see it'. :)
Post by: phil653 on 02 March, 2016, 07:37:51 pm
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4474_zpsdkhzacd9.jpg)
Post by: phil653 on 02 March, 2016, 07:39:07 pm
Post by: LEE on 03 March, 2016, 09:40:55 am
Not mine. Spotted this in S. of France last week. Never saw the owner, but he or she sure is thirsty. 5.5l of bottles on board and another cage on the back of the stem. A neat idea I've not come across before. I wonder what happened to the low-rider front panniers: rack mountings present, load missing.
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4474_zpsdkhzacd9.jpg)
There's so much good sense in using bottle cages/holders that accept 1.5-2.0 litre bottles in hot countries that I may see what the capacity of my cages is.
It sure beats the decanting routine outside supermarkets.
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2016, 11:54:45 am
Not mine. Spotted this in S. of France last week. Never saw the owner, but he or she sure is thirsty. 5.5l of bottles on board and another cage on the back of the stem. A neat idea I've not come across before. I wonder what happened to the low-rider front panniers: rack mountings present, load missing.
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/IMGP4474_zpsdkhzacd9.jpg)
That looks like the bike of someone who's had their panniers nicked.
Post by: Samuel D on 03 March, 2016, 02:14:13 pm
Post by: phil653 on 03 March, 2016, 02:54:03 pm
Or the owner, wherever they are, has the panniers with them. Probably at the supermarket picking up a few bottles of water.
Clearly 6 litres of water is nowhere near enough and more bottles are required. Shame there were no shops in the vicinity. The bungee from the stuffsack and the lock bodged on to the rack makes me suspect that if the panniers have gone walkabout, they're not accompanying their owner.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 March, 2016, 03:42:24 pm
Post by: tom_e on 03 March, 2016, 04:01:42 pm
The bike belongs to a weight weenie who was worried about the extra 1500g or so of panniers.
I'm guessing it's the extra € rather than g. That setup probably wasn't blessed with the budget of many of the other fine examples on here and they made do with what bits they had.
I'm intrigued by the fact they fitted racks but not panniers, but that does still help strap stuff on I suppose.
Post by: vantage on 03 March, 2016, 05:34:01 pm
I'm guessing it's the extra € rather than g. That setup probably wasn't blessed with the budget of many of the other fine examples on here and they made do with what bits they had.
I'm intrigued by the fact they fitted racks but not panniers, but that does still help strap stuff on I suppose.
That's a good point. Racks are dirt cheap compared to panniers.
I'd guess the water was for both drinking and cooking. Maybe even washing on less 'posh' sites or wild camping.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 March, 2016, 05:50:42 pm
That's eight quid for a set of panniers!
Post by: LEE on 03 March, 2016, 05:58:33 pm
The bike belongs to a weight weenie who was worried about the extra 1500g or so of panniers.
The aero penalty of panniers is far worse than the weight penalty.
In a headwind they would fare much better than someone with front & rear panniers.
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2016, 06:06:41 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 March, 2016, 09:11:18 am
Probably simpler than that: Second-hand bikes (and bikes not bought in the UK) often have useful things like racks, lights and mudguards attached.Just noticed it's a Giant. Giant Squadron. Looks like a '90s mtb but google it and it comes up "Giant Squadron touring bike", and it does look like the kind of thing often sold in much of Europe as a tourer. So it might have come with rear rack and mudguards, but the front one looks like an add on.
Post by: Jakob W on 04 March, 2016, 10:37:27 am
Post by: Pingu on 05 March, 2016, 12:28:48 am
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 06 March, 2016, 11:47:36 am
Post by: Pippa on 12 March, 2016, 03:20:48 am
This was in Waihi, New Zealand, just near the start of the rail trail. One we could actually cycle on for once!
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1535/25620042011_dd4a1a9198_z.jpg)
Post by: hatler on 12 March, 2016, 10:15:52 am
That looks glorious.
Post by: Canardly on 12 March, 2016, 10:47:24 am
Post by: perpetual dan on 28 March, 2016, 06:48:55 pm
(http://blog.a-dan.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/approaching_Rye.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 March, 2016, 07:16:07 pm
Sorry for the people in the pic getting in the way of the bikes and luggage. But here is a pic of adamski and I with our steeds and all our luggage on our current 9 month cycle tour. We have tried to travel as light as possible, and have so far pretty much used everything we have bought with us, so I think we got the packing just about right.Good to see you're exposing the Godzoners to YACF. :D
This was in Waihi, New Zealand, just near the start of the rail trail. One we could actually cycle on for once!
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1535/25620042011_dd4a1a9198_z.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 March, 2016, 07:16:34 pm
A nice stretch of rough but ridable track approaching Rye on Saturday morning, having camped at Cackle Street.Beware of the witches...
(http://blog.a-dan.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/approaching_Rye.jpg)
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 28 March, 2016, 09:28:43 pm
Post by: JerryS on 28 March, 2016, 10:42:40 pm
A nice stretch of rough but ridable track approaching Rye on Saturday morning, having camped at Cackle Street.
(http://blog.a-dan.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/approaching_Rye.jpg)
What front rack are you using?
I'm looking for something that puts front panniers higher than a lowrider would.
Post by: perpetual dan on 28 March, 2016, 11:10:53 pm
Post by: tiermat on 14 April, 2016, 02:50:34 pm
The InBred, in Villafrance Del Pendes in April of this year.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-43-MHVwJ22w/T5kmyg-saUI/AAAAAAAAB2o/7ioyyyqC29E/s852/P1000112.JPG)
And same town, different view:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XJC7LewKp6g/T5km0jRKkvI/AAAAAAAAB2w/0Bh5DWqYRpM/s852/P1000113.JPG)
That was the old bike, this is the new...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GQ6Jzgca29HESJSNPePtDKLtaoT2DskG3CPTVjec60FDzwD2EID3jyWYrV6VcO22URIcC75NTN_CoSGeQT2m4U0WcFwavqMjrSj9CQQT-M5T_mGphExLUKZp2vmlPdsTohujJZA_NF4nOmcOiQ-EjiEPY2p5-kd6M8rIk77c5l4uk4Js3rS-aiX4-5zG41KC1oaVnnRpuuaikqGiFgJkGQ-jO6KIxXiY_zZauGzT1-aK8moLzcsz00bh5vehIDFsQPG7jaXf5j6CKC5beBhxrSZDjYh1MObzQY2ckqDc2jQe89CD90dB9NWw2FLxFRGLx3qsr98Fq4VA1NwcRqfRV7rg4dDe6oEiqXKQDBC4j94pyRb1nTEKR6KP_r7GCqJbWZ-1g2jZ4crdjCead30AkOmwYufRSQ4GP-AZXuhgX6gPFc3g-F_ovjS_PcnCaqi4DhK3fWizTshytYoJdzN4orxrFttrhLvcTrEtMeygA-IZV6U484jWoo5gnm02JyynKIrVg-xhrblRYOByEtep_F6WuRzQnRto8HT44AUmTyERS4_LShg6vpCCjEYKmtc=w1180-h885-no)
Can you spot the difference? :D
Post by: mcshroom on 14 April, 2016, 02:53:18 pm
Post by: Samuel D on 14 April, 2016, 02:58:32 pm
Post by: marcusjb on 14 April, 2016, 02:59:57 pm
Post by: mcshroom on 14 April, 2016, 03:19:04 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 April, 2016, 03:27:46 pm
Post by: tiermat on 14 April, 2016, 03:37:40 pm
This is not the (only) change, but you can't see it on the other photo...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OrPwhH1nkHGT0GulupXHy7XEbh_p_2lKpnc2gRH0awVGy_D45MmJADUwaREngltVOJvEW2d0OOm_FAFrjpHqUeaqNnTlo5xc5T9y9UTS49JmWoJr_iEDdvPsR-EYd8Wmbud4SygFLnMCVkhxQ5Wovjy1qkN_Kde5fOncu8GhiUlA37DC-l_v5FJyM46LreieZu3is7HJVXWBEjhDbEY392Q1PfDZSZ8BJ1NJVJA8F_TuZy2W7w9wlP664JZNG4bYQgh_EIiTjxiBxuN_Av38_Xz34j5z6Z5FAvAu69OVahDoiR4s2wpaKJinU-bMn6pNCuXlJzzibNLqdHBNc-z7qirauKGhe3Ab0PxtT0wn9tAgEIV8f-5JW8JBGGCfzhxCk1wSMR4Qpw_SXwySBTL1H3S_40oClDyGT1SUiApgj5synd7GcQQKBX0AwLLXUN2wj6k15Kbs-724JCTXzgX6JPU8c0K__WdNC5GlugmVzbgha4nJG5XTnMKYLtviPrM6J8KQtFsnncMjhZEox5-ImWdnKM9bldlVtbHxeOYNI7eU2-9uf1udWjkZM50Sr-w=w1180-h885-no)
Post by: BrianI on 10 May, 2016, 10:03:48 am
Perhaps that's a nice project to be getting on with, at least it's cheaper than buying an n+1! :smug: :smug:
Post by: LEE on 10 May, 2016, 11:55:40 am
You know, seeing all those loaded tourers makes me think that getting my old circa 2008 Chromoly 520 Dawes Horizon out the loft
Yes, you should absolutely do this.
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
Post by: Vince on 10 May, 2016, 03:27:42 pm
Post by: Jakob W on 10 May, 2016, 04:14:14 pm
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
And uphill they induce grunts! (Or is that just me...)
Post by: BrianI on 10 May, 2016, 04:26:36 pm
Plus rebuilding my Dawes horizon would also mean I could mtbfy my currently rigid decathlon mtbso commuter / off road pootler by putting the suspension fork back on, for maximising off road fun. I could then use the rebuilt tourer for commuting purposes, leaving my road bike fox audax!!You know, seeing all those loaded tourers makes me think that getting my old circa 2008 Chromoly 520 Dawes Horizon out the loft
Yes, you should absolutely do this.
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
Does this seem a cunning plan?
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Post by: tiermat on 10 May, 2016, 06:58:46 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dJGGWDGBgA8mx3kJDerprz0vYGQhPKLBROOMrxgrdis1BZhhpBoLo8-WIgOVN-ZUNITZv6iJIaCDZmNT0kD4dxMpaAjd05kYh-p4qYn-BBMOGcN3O4cus5GGJ8UMrR-XJCJqXkylxo2W8IEsmclWc5jLH7S-2BmXE8IvyoVLFaCdtrOMxXIOkzZB4zw9dHQxEBWXHbGFyk1dOOa5PYxXoS9MAAVwTqnXUg6l--YsLhEE8oYji97cZdDOfZzHS5B4ZpGG7I7awywXlkwt0DBqzmZ9OI9BVtoMAuhOwWbtj8Jku4MrQzy54fGjz4e_Kgq-0UmS_sJFMq1V95vhH2J3H7fawiqA1M6Zs9kiC1DXy3D-u6rYd6EESIWBT8Ew2-MOr_yexhtJLXH2nAWUv3qMhWL0NhCTJsWuVSGisc-OOIiT14yRII0F7lgQm-R5Yrd7ff18z1ZYBkKGfJg_V0RIVMlZ444XEC8rl2jSEjsnuaRXcTsthUmCxasGEA025MpArcvGXvpdgfaebtlYodKpbeKW2xhPVCx6KzbZIYFj-H183xogtBMtvB4twBTrXm4-_Z2LQmJmJh3FfBCX9aKJJaf03w=w1180-h885-no)
Post by: BrianI on 14 May, 2016, 08:58:54 am
Here is the Renegade, in holiday mode, on the shores of the Med:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dJGGWDGBgA8mx3kJDerprz0vYGQhPKLBROOMrxgrdis1BZhhpBoLo8-WIgOVN-ZUNITZv6iJIaCDZmNT0kD4dxMpaAjd05kYh-p4qYn-BBMOGcN3O4cus5GGJ8UMrR-XJCJqXkylxo2W8IEsmclWc5jLH7S-2BmXE8IvyoVLFaCdtrOMxXIOkzZB4zw9dHQxEBWXHbGFyk1dOOa5PYxXoS9MAAVwTqnXUg6l--YsLhEE8oYji97cZdDOfZzHS5B4ZpGG7I7awywXlkwt0DBqzmZ9OI9BVtoMAuhOwWbtj8Jku4MrQzy54fGjz4e_Kgq-0UmS_sJFMq1V95vhH2J3H7fawiqA1M6Zs9kiC1DXy3D-u6rYd6EESIWBT8Ew2-MOr_yexhtJLXH2nAWUv3qMhWL0NhCTJsWuVSGisc-OOIiT14yRII0F7lgQm-R5Yrd7ff18z1ZYBkKGfJg_V0RIVMlZ444XEC8rl2jSEjsnuaRXcTsthUmCxasGEA025MpArcvGXvpdgfaebtlYodKpbeKW2xhPVCx6KzbZIYFj-H183xogtBMtvB4twBTrXm4-_Z2LQmJmJh3FfBCX9aKJJaf03w=w1180-h885-no)
Linky no worky!
Post by: BrianI on 14 May, 2016, 09:04:13 am
You know, seeing all those loaded tourers makes me think that getting my old circa 2008 Chromoly 520 Dawes Horizon out the loft
Yes, you should absolutely do this.
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
New wheels ordered yesterday! :)
Post by: tiermat on 14 May, 2016, 09:04:35 am
Here is the Renegade, in holiday mode, on the shores of the Med:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dJGGWDGBgA8mx3kJDerprz0vYGQhPKLBROOMrxgrdis1BZhhpBoLo8-WIgOVN-ZUNITZv6iJIaCDZmNT0kD4dxMpaAjd05kYh-p4qYn-BBMOGcN3O4cus5GGJ8UMrR-XJCJqXkylxo2W8IEsmclWc5jLH7S-2BmXE8IvyoVLFaCdtrOMxXIOkzZB4zw9dHQxEBWXHbGFyk1dOOa5PYxXoS9MAAVwTqnXUg6l--YsLhEE8oYji97cZdDOfZzHS5B4ZpGG7I7awywXlkwt0DBqzmZ9OI9BVtoMAuhOwWbtj8Jku4MrQzy54fGjz4e_Kgq-0UmS_sJFMq1V95vhH2J3H7fawiqA1M6Zs9kiC1DXy3D-u6rYd6EESIWBT8Ew2-MOr_yexhtJLXH2nAWUv3qMhWL0NhCTJsWuVSGisc-OOIiT14yRII0F7lgQm-R5Yrd7ff18z1ZYBkKGfJg_V0RIVMlZ444XEC8rl2jSEjsnuaRXcTsthUmCxasGEA025MpArcvGXvpdgfaebtlYodKpbeKW2xhPVCx6KzbZIYFj-H183xogtBMtvB4twBTrXm4-_Z2LQmJmJh3FfBCX9aKJJaf03w=w1180-h885-no)
Linky no worky!
Oh, I will fix it shortly (need to be on my computer, not on my phone)
Post by: tiermat on 14 May, 2016, 09:56:28 am
Can you see it now?
Post by: Ruthie on 14 May, 2016, 09:57:38 am
Post by: tiermat on 14 May, 2016, 10:00:10 am
Nope.
Weird, G+ must be playing silly buggers...
Any better now?
Post by: nikki on 14 May, 2016, 10:05:01 am
We have visuals!
Post by: BrianI on 14 May, 2016, 04:04:21 pm
Still nopeNope.
Weird, G+ must be playing silly buggers...
Any better now?
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Post by: Pancho on 14 May, 2016, 04:19:42 pm
:thumbsup:
We have visuals!
I don't.
Post by: Polar Bear on 14 May, 2016, 06:11:16 pm
I have long given up trying to post piccies on here - it's just too stupidly daft a process. In c21 surely it should be easy as pie? Even faceache is easy.
Post by: Pancho on 14 May, 2016, 06:16:15 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 May, 2016, 03:56:11 pm
Excellent! Looking forward to hearing of (and hopefully seeing!) this and the mtb-ified mtb. :DYou know, seeing all those loaded tourers makes me think that getting my old circa 2008 Chromoly 520 Dawes Horizon out the loft
Yes, you should absolutely do this.
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
New wheels ordered yesterday! :)
Tiermat: still can't see it!
Post by: Andrew Br on 17 May, 2016, 05:15:17 pm
Tiermat: still can't see it!
Nor can I. It's very disappointing since I really want to see what it looks like with and without luggage.
Post by: BrianI on 17 May, 2016, 07:06:41 pm
Still waiting on the new wheels. I'm also pondering on drive train replacement on the 2008 Dawes horizon. The Sora 8 speed triple sti are very rattly inside, plus I've never been happy with the performance of the cantilever brakes, both the tektro oryx, plus tektro cr720.Excellent! Looking forward to hearing of (and hopefully seeing!) this and the mtb-ified mtb. :DYou know, seeing all those loaded tourers makes me think that getting my old circa 2008 Chromoly 520 Dawes Horizon out the loft
Yes, you should absolutely do this.
Fully-Loaded tourers force you to ride at the ideal speed for inducing grins.
New wheels ordered yesterday! :)
Tiermat: still can't see it!
So I think an "upgrade" using tektro drop bar v brake lever, deore v brakes, and ye olde worlde bar end shifters is the best plan. Stick with 8 speed (my 2014 pinnacle dolomite road bike still uses 8 speed) or upgrade to 9?
Post by: Deano on 22 May, 2016, 09:38:26 pm
Brian - the one on the right has the Tektro v-brake levers which are still going strong after umpteen thousand miles*, and the shifters are Shimano 9-speed, set to friction so I could use a 7- 8- or 9-speed cassette. It's currently 9-speed, but I can't be bothered to index the gears properly.
*apart from the rubber hoods.
Post by: Peter on 23 May, 2016, 10:20:50 am
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 May, 2016, 10:22:32 am
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 May, 2016, 10:32:00 am
And the bike on the left is one of the most elegant bikes you'll ever see - in one of the world's perfect spots!
Almost the most elegant of bicycles. The saddle rather lets it down in my opinion. A proper Brooks or similar saddle would be an improvement on what looks like a Selle Flite, more at home on an out and out racer methinks. :)
Post by: Peter on 23 May, 2016, 10:54:53 am
But the bike on the left isn't fully loaded – it only has one pannier! (Why?)
I didn't post the picture - and my man carries the heavy stuff!
Post by: Peter on 23 May, 2016, 10:56:11 am
And the bike on the left is one of the most elegant bikes you'll ever see - in one of the world's perfect spots!
Almost the most elegant of bicycles. The saddle rather lets it down in my opinion. A proper Brooks or similar saddle would be an improvement on what looks like a Selle Flite, more at home on an out and out racer methinks. :)
Brooks are fine if you ever need to eat one. Completely inappropriate for a vegetaran in normal circumstances, however!
Post by: Kim on 23 May, 2016, 12:10:15 pm
And the bike on the left is one of the most elegant bikes you'll ever see - in one of the world's perfect spots!
Almost the most elegant of bicycles. The saddle rather lets it down in my opinion.
Elegant bicycles are always let down by saddles, thobut.
Post by: BrianI on 23 May, 2016, 03:27:01 pm
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7589/27109278891_b5c8ddf016_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hiy99c)
Brian - the one on the right has the Tektro v-brake levers which are still going strong after umpteen thousand miles*, and the shifters are Shimano 9-speed, set to friction so I could use a 7- 8- or 9-speed cassette. It's currently 9-speed, but I can't be bothered to index the gears properly.
*apart from the rubber hoods.
:thumbsup:
I'm still waiting on the new wheels for my Horizon. I could take a photo of it just now, but it in no way would qualify for being a fully loaded bike - seeing as it it just frame, fork & seatpost! :-[
Post by: Deano on 24 May, 2016, 12:50:35 am
But the bike on the left isn't fully loaded – it only has one pannier! (Why?)
Peter has Staff* for such things.
*me
Post by: Peter on 24 May, 2016, 12:54:57 am
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 06 June, 2016, 01:33:07 pm
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/theredeyejedi1/2016%20Lejog/IMG_2194_zpszmhxgrma.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/theredeyejedi1/IMG_2331_zps9z47rz8l.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/theredeyejedi1/IMG_2302_zpsnrazin2m.jpg)
Post by: Oscar's dad on 06 June, 2016, 01:45:03 pm
Post by: marcusjb on 06 June, 2016, 02:04:12 pm
Another 'fully loaded' but lightweight setup.
Post by: BrianI on 06 June, 2016, 06:20:33 pm
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7418/27431668861_2420b9eedb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HN3trX)2016-06-06_05-46-47 (https://flic.kr/p/HN3trX) by BrianInnesPhotography (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianinnesphotography/), on Flickr
Just waiting on £300 order from Spa cycles...
Post by: IanDG on 06 June, 2016, 06:25:49 pm
Still nowhere near fully loaded! Finally got pair of budget hybrid wheels for y Dawes horizon rebuild:
Not even fully equiped! ;)
Post by: IanDG on 06 June, 2016, 07:07:41 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cjg6_SzWkAA-GII.jpg:large)
Another 'fully loaded' but lightweight setup.
Careful Marcus - I got into trouble with OP for less (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=61057.msg1895918#msg1895918) ;)
Post by: Ruthie on 06 June, 2016, 08:39:51 pm
Still nowhere near fully loaded! Finally got pair of budget hybrid wheels for y Dawes horizon rebuild:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7418/27431668861_2420b9eedb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HN3trX)2016-06-06_05-46-47 (https://flic.kr/p/HN3trX) by BrianInnesPhotography (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianinnesphotography/), on Flickr
Just waiting on £300 order from Spa cycles...
Oh, good, we're back to being bike twins Brian :D
My friend Christine also rides our bike, she is also awesome, so I guess you need to be awesome to ride one of these :D
Post by: Ruthie on 06 June, 2016, 09:10:58 pm
Ah, well ;D
Post by: Torslanda on 07 June, 2016, 01:15:29 am
Post by: Ruthie on 08 June, 2016, 04:50:21 pm
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7324/26953311414_7fa639ee95_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H4LLrL)Haltwhistle June 2016 013 (https://flic.kr/p/H4LLrL) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
Haltwhistle June 2016 016 (https://flic.kr/p/H36hwa) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7122/27508330506_64b17ed3d4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HUPohs)Haltwhistle June 2016 023 (https://flic.kr/p/HUPohs) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: Peter on 08 June, 2016, 04:59:40 pm
Post by: Ruthie on 08 June, 2016, 05:09:09 pm
I had a lovely time pottering about yesterday, and that was enough adventure this time. It's brilliant to be home.
Post by: BrianI on 09 June, 2016, 04:54:50 pm
NCN 68 yesterday.
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7324/26953311414_7fa639ee95_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H4LLrL)Haltwhistle June 2016 013 (https://flic.kr/p/H4LLrL) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
Haltwhistle June 2016 016 (https://flic.kr/p/H36hwa) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7122/27508330506_64b17ed3d4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HUPohs)Haltwhistle June 2016 023 (https://flic.kr/p/HUPohs) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
Nice choice of Bike! Hopefully my Dawes Horizon will be up and running soon!
Post by: Kim on 14 June, 2016, 04:48:54 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/normandy2016/2016_06_11_11_16_24.sized.jpg)
Post by: MagnusOpus on 21 June, 2016, 09:58:34 am
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7344/27718068051_be4e8bd331_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JemkX2)_1020122 (https://flic.kr/p/JemkX2) by Mike Clampitt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/67686073@N08/), on Flickr
Post by: bobb on 26 June, 2016, 10:50:13 am
On the road out of Malham, June 2016.
Post by: JenM on 26 June, 2016, 07:34:10 pm
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/jcm56/P1010799_zpshjiquarw.jpg) (http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/jcm56/media/P1010799_zpshjiquarw.jpg.html)
Post by: LEE on 26 June, 2016, 11:51:02 pm
And the bike on the left is one of the most elegant bikes you'll ever see - in one of the world's perfect spots!
Quite a statement given some of the images on this thread.
Post by: muddypete on 06 July, 2016, 11:17:15 pm
Heavy...
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/2ugjhj89rcva661/AABe8K3kl-BpgOGcvqFWN3Z3a?raw=1)
Evolution. The expensive way to buy a bike: one component at a time.
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/onbdojbi80ol0tp/AAAuJZYS8zGkc4QMZuuuZnPXa?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/8frlpdw3x3524yb/AADQmoaVZEp33Wvec30uyI6na?raw=1)
Grizedale forest: bulky. Dinner is at the Langdale Pikes, on the horizon.
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/wwi6j5nw5xemcvx/AACj5-7vPCzCh3fdcb4wJ7Oua?raw=1)
Panniers...
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/f8bezz8t3dzlsin/AAC1VU2WzKyIjY5hWK9zKNlua?raw=1)
...fill with water (Holy Island).
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/zsdod7op8hw0cyd/AACJ7vgO8TdjsFI2XjxGH-LHa?raw=1)
The solution? Carry less stuff!
(https://www.dropbox.com/sc/5jsagh0epz09rtk/AAC11KFQ_OnDuXCDlMuvDKXja?raw=1)
Post by: JerryS on 17 July, 2016, 09:34:48 pm
(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o562/jsiddle1/P1020595.jpg) (http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/jsiddle1/media/P1020595.jpg.html)
Post by: Ivo on 27 July, 2016, 07:05:50 am
(https://fotoalbum.dds.nl/ivo_m/karavano2016/large/IMGP4323.jpg)
Post by: clarion on 27 July, 2016, 09:32:18 am
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 July, 2016, 09:39:44 am
Wrocław is a beautiful city, and quite cycle friendly at least in the centre – I suspect the suburbs might be a bit of a mega-road mess though. Make sure to visit some of the islands in the river.
Post by: clarion on 27 July, 2016, 10:13:38 am
Post by: Ivo on 27 July, 2016, 07:04:04 pm
Wrocław is a beautiful city, and quite cycle friendly at least in the centre – I suspect the suburbs might be a bit of a mega-road mess though. Make sure to visit some of the islands in the river.
Well, the cycling infrastructure in the suburbs is rather 'German', badly designed, sometimes disappearing at the spots you really need it. So a lot of locals just don't use it.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 July, 2016, 07:10:02 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 August, 2016, 01:57:08 pm
We started the tour with a meths bottle underneath the down tube but the homemade mounting broke so the bottle ended up in a rear pannier - thankfully it didn't leak.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zps8hn8x1ah.jpg)
Post by: mike on 05 August, 2016, 02:14:13 pm
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/mikes99mail/IMG_3128_zps6z62itx3.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 August, 2016, 02:28:41 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 August, 2016, 02:37:07 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 August, 2016, 02:39:01 pm
It was a happy accident that my existing Ortlieb luggage was red as Disc Truckers only come in one colour!
Actually that's wrong, now they come in blue and the colour of Fred, last year there was no choice.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 August, 2016, 02:41:00 pm
Perhaps this simply means that black is the universal pannier colour as it matches everything (or nothing, depending on your point of view... )
Post by: Oscar's dad on 05 August, 2016, 02:53:09 pm
Post by: Salvatore on 20 August, 2016, 06:57:03 pm
Ridgeback
And again a few days later with different washing drying on the back.
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8199/28494475223_6dbb7ef942_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KpXCKz)Picnic spot (https://flic.kr/p/KpXCKz) by John Spooner (https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/), on Flickr
Post by: HeltorChasca on 20 August, 2016, 08:53:29 pm
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160820/f441f873e41eb51c08e7ed028e1a9c05.jpg)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 22 August, 2016, 07:40:41 pm
Post by: Kim on 22 August, 2016, 08:14:20 pm
Post by: HeltorChasca on 24 August, 2016, 09:33:25 pm
There doesn't look to be room for her on the back there. Presumably she sits on that sheepskin or whatever it is, right at the front of the rack? All those flags can't be helping progress into the head wind!
Luckily for me, she's a tiny 20kg 6yod. That sheepskin is fashioned by my fine hands and works rather well. Our first day took us quickly into the dunes with a tailwind, but a few days later a 'Dutch Hill' got the better of us. 40 miles into the eye of a 20 mile an hour headwind had my 14yod bleating much better.
I was fine of course. Flags tickled my legs a bit but otherwise my supremely aerodynamic bicycle-brick sailed along.
I was staggeringly proud of my 14yod for digging her heels in and getting to camp before dark. And I was staggering
Post by: tom_e on 29 August, 2016, 08:46:52 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 September, 2016, 10:53:15 pm
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8079/28785743934_d46c851ef9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KRGsMU)
And just for completeness, here's the tree:
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7535/29409990895_1f33d187a1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LNRTEx)
Post by: mr ben on 26 February, 2017, 06:48:33 pm
This is my commuter, commandeered for touring duties last year when my arm was recovering from surgery and couldn't cope with drop bars.
Trek 7100fx circa 2003; only extras are mud guards, schwalbe marathon pluses, racks, and bar ends. Rear paniers were bought with the bike, a steal from the shop as they were the last pair (presumably discontinued), Brookes cotton duck I think, excellent quality if slow to fit and remove. Front panniers are Ortlieb, and bar bag (not in picture) is a Vaude with map case on the top. (Shorts drying on rack and Yorkshire flag model's own).
Photo taken on out-of-date film on a Zenith XP camera I had for my 14th birthday, while I was riding the Way of the Roses in 2016. This was approaching the summit of Scosthrop Moor. Ramblings here: http://www.sloeburn.co.uk/?p=817
(http://www.sloeburn.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CNV00047.jpg)
Post by: Joe.B on 05 March, 2017, 10:21:24 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/655/33272663095_2436406acd_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SGc6x6)20170303_084249 (https://flic.kr/p/SGc6x6) by Joseph Bulloch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: Deano on 06 March, 2017, 05:35:32 pm
Post by: Joe.B on 06 March, 2017, 07:12:03 pm
Post by: Joe.B on 21 April, 2017, 02:11:14 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2831/34045931751_d3f5e30b2d_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TSwini)IMG_20170419_115426939 (https://flic.kr/p/TSwini) by Joseph Bulloch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 April, 2017, 02:51:53 pm
Post by: clarion on 24 April, 2017, 11:56:19 am
Post by: Ham on 05 May, 2017, 03:54:47 pm
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gWkgbsFg70I/WQyGUipoEwI/AAAAAAABA2Y/WnWGgCnBe9UeMiCTq9v0s-JKAATcDmFOwCPcB/s640/IMG_20170428_105502.jpg)
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 May, 2017, 06:59:55 pm
Full camping kit packed in there, including food, clean clothes, even a towel! Yup, I knew where my towel was.
Post by: Butterfly on 28 May, 2017, 10:11:05 pm
Post by: IanDG on 29 May, 2017, 01:51:02 pm
Another one of my Aravis/Henry Burton loaded on a Donegal tour 3 years ago - Recently I've been riding it less and less as the Genesis Equilibrium and Surly Cross-Check do everything it does but with a bit more at each extreme. So saying good bye to this one and currently building it up for one of my lads to tour on.
Post by: mcshroom on 30 May, 2017, 12:24:54 am
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4204/34904982586_943bd3c933_o.jpg)There's a lot of weight high up on the front there. How did you find the handling?
Full camping kit packed in there, including food, clean clothes, even a towel! Yup, I knew where my towel was.
Post by: phil653 on 30 May, 2017, 02:44:17 pm
Mission accomplished: Portuguese coast by British Eagle training bike transformed in fully loaded tourer. Very close clearance for 28mm tyres forced the rear brake in-board. Note coordinated bottles but couldn't manage lining up the valves too, sorry.
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah311/berry30/DSCF4711_zps84ff3ed0.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4204/34904982586_943bd3c933_o.jpg)There's a lot of weight high up on the front there. How did you find the handling?
Full camping kit packed in there, including food, clean clothes, even a towel! Yup, I knew where my towel was.
Forgive me butting in but... A-ha! Somebody else who loads the same as I did Perversly some might say as it's contrary to received wisdom, but I've always loaded with a front end bias. Partly it's down to bodging on to unsuitable frames and that's the way I could get my racks to fit, and partly its due to being on the lardy side so I'm already asking a lot of the rear wheel and loading this way evens things out.
As far as handling goes, it's fine once underway but starting from a standstill the bars feel, indeed are, heavy and don't for heaven's sake try going no-handed. What sayeth you, mrcharly?
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 May, 2017, 02:54:28 pm
One pannier is just full of sleeping bag - it a summer buffalo bag, maybe [Edit] 900gm. The other side is mostly clothes with odds and ends. Some museli bars.
The rear had tent, food, tools, cooking gear including pans and stove.
I'm probably going to ditch the bagman and put a rack on the rear, so I can put more weight in the saddlebag, also sometimes I might want to put the panniers on the back and strap a stuffsack on the front.
It handled fine down hills and through turns, ok through potholes, fords and over cobbles. Not so nice at very slow speeds though.
Post by: Kim on 30 May, 2017, 02:57:13 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 30 May, 2017, 03:39:52 pm
Post by: wood_dweller on 02 June, 2017, 08:50:04 am
(https://s21.postimg.org/4j5y1nth3/wakacje_wsakwy_albania.jpg)
Post by: ickrust on 20 June, 2017, 02:18:01 pm
https://goo.gl/photos/wyyaD1u1sNytGJCTA
Post by: rogerzilla on 20 June, 2017, 10:32:21 pm
Post by: Oxford_Guy on 06 July, 2017, 07:13:05 pm
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/oxford_guy/Bike/IMG_8618_zpsmxjzfrfz.jpg)
Post by: Oxford_Guy on 07 July, 2017, 07:34:26 pm
Not really fully loaded, but with enough gear for a weekend's camping at a local music festival recently (was only 16 miles away). Vaude Aqua Panniers and bar bag, Alpkit Gourdon drybag rucksack to carry the tent, leaving my hands free to carry the panniers to the campsite:
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/oxford_guy/Bike/IMG_8618_zpsmxjzfrfz.jpg)
What's this cr@p with Photobucket not allowing free 3rd party hosting? :-(
Need to find another image host...
Post by: trekker12 on 07 September, 2017, 12:39:44 pm
Above the Inn Valley on the way to the Brenner Pass
Post by: sg37409 on 07 September, 2017, 10:13:45 pm
Post by: Butterfly on 08 September, 2017, 12:31:25 pm
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
Post by: Butterfly on 08 September, 2017, 12:46:16 pm
2 years ago
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 September, 2017, 12:48:16 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)A bar bag on the back and a backpack on the bars. Fully loaded and some! :thumbsup:
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
Post by: Kim on 08 September, 2017, 02:56:12 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
I like the way this appears to have gained a bag since the previous photo you posted from the same tour...
Post by: LEE on 08 September, 2017, 03:03:26 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
I know I said fully loaded but that's taking the piss!!
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 September, 2017, 03:11:30 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
Has it actually got a front wheel?
Post by: Kim on 08 September, 2017, 03:13:05 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
Has it actually got a front wheel?
It does. I checked.
Post by: LEE on 08 September, 2017, 03:25:50 pm
I assume that brick outhouse is part of the touring setup?(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4415/36838389046_83a16d44f5.jpg)
Our Circe Helios by a wheelwright's oven in Norfolk last week.
Has it actually got a front wheel?
Post by: hatler on 08 September, 2017, 05:35:45 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4369/36588845740_1cdafcef7e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XKep6W)The end. St Malo to Caen via the Loire. Some great cycling, and a lot of learning for me (https://flic.kr/p/XKep6W) by sg310 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24775321@N02/), on FlickrPegasus Bridge ?
Post by: sg37409 on 08 September, 2017, 10:22:51 pm
Post by: hatler on 09 September, 2017, 10:14:40 am
Indeed it isOf course, this is when we crossed but missed each other by about 20 miles.
Post by: sg37409 on 09 September, 2017, 11:58:59 am
Indeed it isOf course, this is when we crossed but missed each other by about 20 miles.
Actually, not. IIRC, that was in 2016: I was following the coastline on my "dads and lads" tour, you happened to be in Bayeaux when we passed. This year I went from St Malo to Caen via a few days in the Loire on my own.
Post by: phil653 on 21 December, 2017, 08:21:39 am
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4633/38216342865_3a6c54efd9_b.jpg)
Post by: Aushiker on 16 January, 2018, 12:17:19 am
Day 1: Esperance to Albany: The Unconventional Ride. Ready set go ... Esperance foreshore before heading out on my 10 day 750 km ride from Esperance to Albany in Western Australia.
Post by: Aushiker on 16 January, 2018, 12:18:53 am
Day 6: Esperance to Albany: The Unconventional Ride. 750 km in 10 days. Made the inlet having survived the Hamersley Inlet Link Trail log steps.
Post by: LEE on 18 January, 2018, 02:30:21 pm
(http://aushiker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2017_December_Salsa-Mukluk.jpg)
Day 1: Esperance to Albany: The Unconventional Ride. Ready set go ... Esperance foreshore before heading out on my 10 day 750 km ride from Esperance to Albany in Western Australia.
That looks like the sort of bike that encourages you to sit up and take in the views.
Post by: Aushiker on 19 January, 2018, 09:47:57 am
That looks like the sort of bike that encourages you to sit up and take in the views.
It is a fairly upright riding position for sure; much the same as most mountain bikes.
Post by: tom_e on 19 January, 2018, 01:23:53 pm
Post by: Chris N on 14 May, 2018, 10:49:30 am
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/973/41058458975_97700ae24e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25yckp6)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 May, 2018, 08:31:03 pm
Post by: Robh on 15 May, 2018, 09:47:07 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/824/28261566668_103df1a6bd_c.jpg)Very nice! Remiss of me not to have checked it out at the weekend!
Post by: rogerzilla on 13 June, 2018, 10:24:21 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 June, 2018, 03:12:02 pm
Post by: Kim on 14 June, 2018, 03:15:04 pm
I think the shape of the bars plays a part, perhaps (these are wide and splayed).
Seems likely. I'm not much of a honker, but I find that it's one thing that my slightly-too-wide butterfly bars are really good for.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 June, 2018, 03:22:48 pm
I'm not much of a honker,Except on the last day of a tour with no showers! :D
I think the French have it right on this terminology: (http://www.menssuitstips.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/John-Travolta-dancing-in-Saturday-night-fever.jpg)
Post by: Robh on 14 June, 2018, 04:35:57 pm
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Post by: Paul H on 14 June, 2018, 05:14:41 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/955/41156002205_5a01503cae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25GPgAV)
Woods (https://flic.kr/p/25GPgAV) by Paul (https://www.flickr.com/photos/phbike/), on Flickr
First appearance of this bike in this thread, though the panniers have probably appeared several times and the unseen Rohloff has been here on other bikes.
Post by: perpetual dan on 14 June, 2018, 05:58:53 pm
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Post by: nikki on 15 June, 2018, 09:34:29 am
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1746/42790562051_02a81c5588_c.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1739/42087356354_4ba0a65eea_c.jpg)
Post by: Kim on 25 June, 2018, 05:01:44 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/red_baron/2018_06_22_16_50_54.sized.jpg)
(Barakta can have her banana bags back now.)
Post by: ElyDave on 25 June, 2018, 09:00:05 pm
Post by: Kim on 25 June, 2018, 09:02:18 pm
can you use those bottles on the move?
Normally I have a tube attached to one of them, clipped with a magnet to the bottom of the seat. The banana bags got in the way of that. Since I was only riding to/from the station, the bottles are both empty.
Post by: JennyB on 25 June, 2018, 09:23:07 pm
Post by: Kim on 25 June, 2018, 10:40:18 pm
Couldn't you get those panniers a lot power and closer when you don't have to worry about heel strike? Probably need a custom rack though.
Absolutely, but for a ten minute ride on a bike that shimmies alarmingly with a camping load, I opted for the simplicity of not adjusting the pannier fixings from their positions for my touring bike.
(There's also some entanglement with the arm of the rear disc brake that means a large pannier isn't entirely sensible with that rack anyway. In the real world it usually just carries a rack bag, but front rollers are occasionally handy. The proper solution would be an aerodynamic tail fairing, of course.)
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 June, 2018, 08:49:33 am
Post by: Kim on 26 June, 2018, 11:33:46 am
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 June, 2018, 12:54:41 pm
Post by: sg37409 on 26 June, 2018, 01:14:41 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1819/41198826700_644012c94c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25LAKQh)D72_2551 (https://flic.kr/p/25LAKQh) by beqi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1787/41198467110_06e4c50ea7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25LyUWs)D72_2308 (https://flic.kr/p/25LyUWs) by beqi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/), on Flickr
Post by: mcshroom on 27 June, 2018, 08:23:56 am
Post by: Kim on 27 June, 2018, 10:50:53 am
Is that concentration or terror in the second pic Kim? ;D
A combination of both, I think.
Post by: Moose57 on 20 July, 2018, 10:55:11 pm
Two chums and I on recent ride to Paris, I had Carradice the others aggreed it was the best and most practical.
Post by: Moose57 on 20 July, 2018, 11:12:32 pm
Post by: cycleman on 21 July, 2018, 08:24:34 am
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qLKfGozCZx2XPqYe7
Post by: kyuss on 22 July, 2018, 07:14:05 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/TcpoPjx.jpg)
Post by: bludger on 26 July, 2018, 12:16:53 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ArYAGkQ.jpg)
I wouldn't normally have this much crap on the bike for a tour but I needed to take some semi posh clobber with me to europe.
All the bags are from Planet X PODSACS aside from the red drybag which is from overboard. And the 'small' saddlebag which is botranger.
The small saddlebag just held tubes!
Post by: fhills on 26 July, 2018, 02:58:59 pm
Model name/price?
Have you used it much?
How do you rate it?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 31 July, 2018, 02:29:06 pm
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Nice!
Post by: Nick H. on 31 July, 2018, 02:47:01 pm
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Crikey! That is some extreme bikepacking! The rear pack looks like some sort of hideous giant insect. Are there any downsides to having the weight there?
Eta: and that would seem to be a Topanga Diamondback with Biopace...so it must be very old, but it's in beautiful condition. Pls tell us the wheel and tyre specs.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 31 July, 2018, 05:09:38 pm
Post by: ElyDave on 01 August, 2018, 11:57:35 am
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has gone into these, plus a water bladder behind my head. Seat cushion absent as I was just test fitting the panniers. The rear strap is actually better not on the rack (that space is now taken by a spare tyre anyway) but hanging off the back of the headrest/seat
(https://i.imgur.com/Grzh4Dh.jpg)
Off on hols tomorrow
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 August, 2018, 04:17:53 pm
all this, and moreBut surely taking your own wine rack on holiday defeats the point?!
(https://i.imgur.com/khMHjjb.jpg)
has gone into these, plus a water bladder behind my head.
Post by: ElyDave on 01 August, 2018, 09:39:24 pm
Post by: Kim on 06 August, 2018, 09:10:57 pm
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/cycling/2018_08_05_13_40_59.sized.jpg)
Post by: bludger on 06 August, 2018, 09:15:40 pm
That's a big Podsac under the seat I assume?
Model name/price?
Have you used it much?
How do you rate it?
I've actually done a review on it - check the parts and accessories section.
Long story short yes they're terrific!
Post by: kyuss on 06 August, 2018, 10:40:36 pm
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Crikey! That is some extreme bikepacking! The rear pack looks like some sort of hideous giant insect. Are there any downsides to having the weight there?
Eta: and that would seem to be a Topanga Diamondback with Biopace...so it must be very old, but it's in beautiful condition. Pls tell us the wheel and tyre specs.
The rear saddlebag was a bit of an eyesore, but there's next to no weight in it, just a sleeping bag. Bike handles great with all the weight low down up front. Really surprised with it to be honest considering its humble beginnings. Got some Ortlieb Front Rollers on the shopping list and with a bit more experience/practise with packing I'll hopefully lose a bit of bulk from the saddlebag too.
Yep, an all original, barely used 1991 (I think) Diamondback Topanga for the princely sum of £17 off ebay. They're the original wheels (Exage hubs, unknown single wall rims). The cups and cones are looking a bit pitted so wheels are on the shopping list too. The tyres are 26 inch Halo Twin Rail 2.2. Not the first choice for a touring tyre, but I had to have fat gumwalls for the hipster points, and these were within budget. They're pretty fast rolling and comfortable and with a shot of Stans in the tubes they've yet to meet the fairy. Tempted with some Compass Rat Trap Pass when they wear out though.
Post by: Nick H. on 06 August, 2018, 11:13:30 pm
Post by: perpetual dan on 09 September, 2018, 08:03:32 pm
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Post by: rogerzilla on 09 September, 2018, 08:34:18 pm
Post by: Chris N on 09 September, 2018, 08:45:55 pm
Cotic Escapade (lightly) loaded on my way to Bicester a couple of weeks ago.
Post by: Joe.B on 11 September, 2018, 10:02:02 pm
Little Joe did really well, 31 miles on our longest day and still full of energy.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1883/44573589742_9ee3993aba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aUPiiY)IMG_20180830_125041319 (https://flic.kr/p/2aUPiiY) by Joe B (https://www.flickr.com/photos/84858164@N02/), on Flickr
Post by: rogerzilla on 15 September, 2018, 08:30:51 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 17 September, 2018, 03:47:19 pm
NB Fred's rear panniers done up correctly. Double NB, his front panniers are the City model, different from Front Rollers but also done up correctly...
https://flic.kr/p/YQfnG8
Post by: Kim on 17 September, 2018, 05:25:29 pm
As such the City-Roller closure, with fixed sockets for the buckles to neatly clip into on the side of the bag, and D-rings for attaching a shoulder strap is a superior design. Unfortunately, the City-Rollers don't have the useful internal pockets of the Front/Back-Rollers.
Front/Back-Rollers can be closed by connecting the ends of the closure together in the drybag style, but this compromises the waterproofing if the bag is lightly loaded. Alternatively, you can leave the ends dangling in the breeze, which is fugly.
Post by: rogerzilla on 17 September, 2018, 08:31:01 pm
Post by: matthew on 17 September, 2018, 09:47:26 pm
This is a bugbear of mine: Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.
If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.
Post by: Kim on 17 September, 2018, 10:04:44 pm
This is a bugbear of mine: Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.
If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.
When I've done that, my Front Rollers (which are the heavy ones, because recumbent) go in one hand, and my Back Rollers go in the other. If I'm using the overspill dry bag too, it has a strap that works for shouldering.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 18 September, 2018, 01:06:27 pm
This is a bugbear of mine: Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.
If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.
Agreed, the shoulder straps are very useful for carrying your panniers off the bike. And they allow the panniers to be PROPERLY closed thus rendering them very waterproof to the point where I never bother wrapping stuff in plastic bags as the panniers won't leak - ever.
Only on yacf ;D
It's one of the may reasons I love this place :thumbsup:
Post by: Kim on 18 September, 2018, 02:14:18 pm
Agreed, the shoulder straps are very useful for carrying your panniers off the bike. And they allow the panniers to be PROPERLY closed thus rendering them very waterproof to the point where I never bother wrapping stuff in plastic bags as the panniers won't leak - ever.
Plastic bags aren't for the panniers leaking, they're for organising stuff, not having to bring dirty panniers into your tent and - where applicable - preventing the stuff from leaking on other stuff.
I keep my gadgets, wires, medication, wash things, clean clothes, food etc in dry-bags and not-quite-dry-bags[1], but my down sleeping bag goes straight into a Back-Roller with just its non-waterproof stuff sack for protection. It's never got wet. I put dry clothing in a dry-bag to share a pannier with dirty clothing and/or a wet tent and seat cover.
As for shoulder straps, if you want to use them for carrying the bag on your shoulder, the best place for them to be while riding along is inside the bag where they won't get wet or covered in dust. That (along with having to re-adjust the length) is why I don't like the Ortlieb approach of using them to close the bag, or for that matter the Radical/Brompton approach of not having the strap on detachable buckles/hooks.
Of course, sometimes the shoulder strap is the only way to waterproofly close a lightly-loaded Front/Back-Roller, and therefore necessary.
[1] Alpkit Apollo: Silicone cordura with un-taped seams and a drawstring closure in a variety of sizes and bright colours. Great for organising your things, and it'll *mostly* contain a shampoo leak.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 18 September, 2018, 02:28:50 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 September, 2018, 03:18:34 pm
Post by: Oscar's dad on 18 September, 2018, 03:52:57 pm
Post by: Ham on 18 September, 2018, 03:54:48 pm
I've moved away from having separate bags-within-panniers for organisation, because I find it takes up more room. It's easier to fit everything in when individual items can tessellate and squash into spaces rather than having things in big lumps.
Vertical rolling in
Post by: trekker12 on 21 September, 2018, 03:12:45 pm
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.
I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?
And more importantly, why can't I find them in green to match the pannier?!
Post by: Kim on 21 September, 2018, 03:21:16 pm
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.
I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?
About the same as the rack fixings do.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 September, 2018, 03:29:03 pm
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.
I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?
About the same as the rack fixings do.
Leaks haven't been a problem.
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 September, 2018, 08:29:43 pm
No shoulder straps on the way back from Uffington. I have a feeling the Super Cs might have originally come with shoulder straps, I know I have various Carradice shoulder straps, but I've never had a use for them on any bike luggage other than bar bags, and only occasionally then.
Post by: Kim on 23 September, 2018, 08:31:17 pm
Post by: mcshroom on 02 October, 2018, 06:18:15 pm
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 October, 2018, 06:23:29 pm
Post by: mcshroom on 02 October, 2018, 09:14:13 pm
Post by: mattc on 14 December, 2018, 08:48:35 pm
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(It's some random dude on the TCR group. Possibly taken in Argentina.)
Post by: perpetual dan on 29 May, 2019, 10:02:08 pm
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Post by: lmm on 04 June, 2019, 01:04:50 pm
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Post by: bludger on 21 July, 2019, 12:14:23 am
From my last tour and 400 in Belgium (left the sleep system and bar bag at the HQ for the brevet).
This photo is my phone wallpaper. It was from the last day, riding west on the Belgian coastline towards Dunkirk and the ferry.
People often remark that it looks like a parachute hanging off the back but it works 💁♂️
Post by: chopstick on 18 January, 2020, 11:05:47 am
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 18 January, 2020, 11:21:08 am
Post by: chopstick on 18 January, 2020, 09:28:30 pm
That certainly is heavily loaded. But heavy loads can be good too! Hope you enjoyed it and maybe are planning the next one.Thanks :)
I'm hoping to do a couple of short trips with tent when I get the chance and, all things being well, I'm hoping to get a short tour in with my nephew in the summer.
Post by: Wowbagger on 18 January, 2020, 10:01:26 pm
Post by: Moose57 on 12 March, 2020, 11:42:00 pm
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Post by: Ruthie on 15 March, 2020, 08:35:50 pm
Post by: andrewc on 15 March, 2020, 08:57:54 pm
Sadly, I am..... :(
Post by: Paul on 15 March, 2020, 10:13:19 pm
And my dad was a bus inspector, so he heard it a lot too.
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 15 April, 2020, 12:33:44 pm
Long, long ago on the (wrong) way to Narbonne. I didn't really need that much stuff.
Post by: Luke on 10 June, 2020, 06:37:39 am
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Raleigh (https://flic.kr/p/2jaufmd) by Luke Hayes (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60205142@N04/), on Flickr
And again but this time in January, with the required extra kit.
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Raleigh (https://flic.kr/p/2jaryza) by Luke Hayes (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60205142@N04/), on Flickr
Post by: morbihan on 22 June, 2020, 12:06:21 pm
Taking delivery of these guys we had built up for touring next week.
The trouble is that we are still marooned at home in Bermuda which is 20 square miles. We were supposed to be touring in France on them about now.
Ah well there is always next year!
Post by: hatler on 22 June, 2020, 12:11:30 pm
:-)
Stunning setups you've got there.
Post by: morbihan on 22 June, 2020, 06:13:51 pm
Are you worried about losing each other in a crowd ?
:-)
Stunning setups you've got there.
;D A mate described them as marmite bags.
Post by: Joe.B on 20 August, 2020, 11:29:07 am
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Post by: Oscar's dad on 20 August, 2020, 11:58:54 am
Post by: Joe.B on 29 August, 2020, 10:18:34 am
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Post by: bristolgravel on 12 April, 2021, 01:17:14 pm
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Post by: rogerzilla on 12 April, 2021, 09:03:20 pm
Post by: bristolgravel on 13 April, 2021, 11:24:11 am
Fully loaded? That's stripped for racing!I have a tent, quilt and mat in the saddle bag, a pair of shoes underneath it and clothes in the handlebar bag. Carbon tent pole strapped to the underside of the top tube. Clothes in the handlebar bag and tools/spares in the small top tube wedge. Odds and ends in the fork bag. All bags made by me to fit this bike.
Never done any racing, but like to travel light. More bag space just means carrying more, but also understand that people like to carry more.
Post by: Oscar's dad on 13 April, 2021, 12:08:04 pm
Fully loaded? That's stripped for racing!I have a tent, quilt and mat in the saddle bag, a pair of shoes underneath it and clothes in the handlebar bag. Carbon tent pole strapped to the underside of the top tube. Clothes in the handlebar bag and tools/spares in the small top tube wedge. Odds and ends in the fork bag. All bags made by me to fit this bike.
Never done any racing, but like to travel light. More bag space just means carrying more, but also understand that people like to carry more.
Wow! I have much to learn from you when it comes to packing light!
Post by: salar55 on 13 April, 2021, 11:34:35 pm
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 14 April, 2021, 08:43:50 am
Post by: Oscar's dad on 14 April, 2021, 09:33:53 am
Definitely not stripped for racing! Nice contrasts.
Historically I have very much been in the "take everything including the kitchen sink" camp but I would like to try a more minimalist approach and move towards backpacking luggage systems. The thing I don't like about traditional panniers is they can become dislodged when comedy off-roading whereas bike packing bags probably won't.
Post by: salar55 on 14 April, 2021, 09:45:00 am
Post by: Kim on 14 April, 2021, 01:14:50 pm
The thing I don't like about traditional panniers is they can become dislodged when comedy off-roading whereas bike packing bags probably won't.
I hadn't encountered this phenomenon until I used a pair of front-rollers on the back of my Reasonably Priced Mountain Bicycle[1] descending the lane with the shark-infested potholes at speed on one of the Tan Hill rides. The main fixings were fine, but the lower hooks kept getting shaken out from behind the rack struts.
It seems that the suspension on my touring bike (which has done plenty of comedy off-roading over the years) serves to keep the bags attached, as well as not rattling your BRANES. The main problem there is riding through a gap in the undergrowth that's narrower than the low-riders.
[1] Not very Mildly Inappropriate, I know, but I did end up wading through a bog and chucking the bike in a beck on the way up, so I was grateful for proper Ortliebs...
Post by: Oscar's dad on 14 April, 2021, 01:34:44 pm
The thing I don't like about traditional panniers is they can become dislodged when comedy off-roading whereas bike packing bags probably won't.
I hadn't encountered this phenomenon until I used a pair of front-rollers on the back of my Reasonably Priced Mountain Bicycle[1] descending the lane with the shark-infested potholes at speed on one of the Tan Hill rides. The main fixings were fine, but the lower hooks kept getting shaken out from behind the rack struts.
It seems that the suspension on my touring bike (which has done plenty of comedy off-roading over the years) serves to keep the bags attached, as well as not rattling your BRANES. The main problem there is riding through a gap in the undergrowth that's narrower than the low-riders.
[1] Not very Mildly Inappropriate, I know, but I did end up wading through a bog and chucking the bike in a beck on the way up, so I was grateful for proper Ortliebs...
Exactly. Some years ago me and The Current Mrs R were moving at speed along a very busy A road astride Tina the Tandem and one of my ancient Karrimor rear panniers became dislodged and jammed the rear wheel causing a rapid and unwelcome emergency stop. Said pannier went in the bin as soon as we got home.
Post by: Kim on 14 April, 2021, 01:41:51 pm
Exactly. Some years ago me and The Current Mrs R were moving at speed along a very busy A road astride Tina the Tandem and one of my ancient Karrimor rear panniers became dislodged and jammed the rear wheel causing a rapid and unwelcome emergency stop. Said pannier went in the bin as soon as we got home.
I bought a pannier from Aldi when I was a newbie cyclist and had that happen. It managed to fold the rear mudguard up and lock the wheel while negotiating le Col de Priory Road in busy traffic (it's always in busy traffic, otherwise you'd manage to avoid the pothole). It was immediately relegated to cyclo-tat storage duty, and hasn't been near a bike since. Friend who'd bought the same panniers had one end up under a taxi not long afterwards.
As a result, I've learned not to be cheap about luggage, and to eschew gravity-powered fixings.
Post by: woollypigs on 14 April, 2021, 03:24:24 pm
I was sooo glad that we have a friendly French couple on a tandem behind us, as they found the pannier about 5 miles back from where I found out we had lost the kitchen pannier. Cause I would have been spend adding a 10km round trip to that days riding on that surface.
Yes, back then the Carretera Austral was that *rough* that I didn't notice the loss of a pannier, compared to what it is now. I just saw a new movie about the building of the Carretera Austral. Many sections that I have burned into my mind to be rougher than the worst of Sustrans "best". Now have nice smoooooooth tarmac.
Don't worry the tandem was paid in chocolate for their service.
Post by: salar55 on 14 April, 2021, 11:20:39 pm
Post by: L CC on 15 April, 2021, 07:43:16 am
Post by: perpetual dan on 19 July, 2021, 12:19:51 am
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For the record, that's a pair of front rollers, Alpkit frame and saddle packs, a large Haberland bar bag and a pair of bottles.
Post by: ElyDave on 04 September, 2022, 08:12:13 am
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 September, 2022, 08:23:28 pm