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General Category => Audax => PBP => Topic started by: Phixie on 27 August, 2019, 05:47:25 pm

Title: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Phixie on 27 August, 2019, 05:47:25 pm
This is to congratulate all P-B-P riders on their achievements and to commiserate with all those who didn’t manage to complete.  Now that the dust has settled and the rare sunny Bank Holiday is over, I shall be grateful to receive as soon as possible details of riders who rode the event on fixed, the height of their gear and whether they managed to complete or not.  This information is to be included in a forthcoming issue of Arrivée.  Details of other riders, if known, will also be welcome in case they are not netizens of this parish.

In addition, I shall be delighted to hear about anyone who rode a RM event of >1,000KM this season on fixed (Perms obviously excluded) though there tend to be fewer such events in a P-B-P year.

Hoping to hear from lots of riders.

Regards.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Jonah on 27 August, 2019, 09:58:03 pm
I pushed 90" this year and finnished
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 August, 2019, 10:03:04 pm
The only one I know of (other than Bjorn), was Eleanor Jaskowska. She did it fixed, with 46x18. No idea what that is in funny units. Not sure what her finish time was.

J
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: JonB on 27 August, 2019, 10:09:20 pm
I pushed 90" this year and finnished
I heard rumours of this garguantian gear but thought it must have been a PBP myth ... 68" for me.

E-mail has been dispatched to Phixie with details of 9 Audax Club Bristol fixed riders and also listed below,
Paul Rainbow 73”
Luke Joy Smith 78”
Telbert James 70”
Jon Banks 68”
Neil Veitch 69”/73”
Adam Watkins 71”
Marcus Mumford 76”
Eleanor Jaskowska 68”
Sean Smith 70”* Retired due to illness at 445 Km

Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 27 August, 2019, 10:18:14 pm
Spencer Klaasen of Audax Kansas City rode fixed as usual, no idea how many inches. Perhaps you can judge from this finish video. It's now 10 years since he rode LEL on fixed.

https://vimeo.com/356219408
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Phil W on 27 August, 2019, 10:48:19 pm
Tomsk and Steve Abraham rode fixed
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: jiberjaber on 27 August, 2019, 10:50:39 pm
Tomsk and Steve Abraham rode fixed

As did Joss
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: teethgrinder on 27 August, 2019, 11:01:05 pm
Tomsk and Steve Abraham rode fixed

Tomsk did.
I rode 53/17 in 1999.
This time I rode 52/18 (77") singlespeed, with a freewheel.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: rob on 28 August, 2019, 07:07:24 am
Got round on 79”
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Deano on 28 August, 2019, 07:24:17 am
Shaun Hargreaves, of course.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: T42 on 28 August, 2019, 07:57:46 am
The only one I know of (other than Bjorn), was Eleanor Jaskowska. She did it fixed, with 46x18. No idea what that is in funny units. Not sure what her finish time was.

J

 :thumbsup:  Me neither. Something to do with obsolete currency, I believe - pennies and farthings.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Tomsk on 28 August, 2019, 02:13:38 pm
I was on 72" for PBP [development = 5.74m/47 x 18 - equally mystifying unless you're familiar with the jargon]; 65" on the other side for the ride to and from.

165mm cranks were kinder to my knees - 68" and 170s last time.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: hellymedic on 28 August, 2019, 02:43:53 pm
The only one I know of (other than Bjorn), was Eleanor Jaskowska. She did it fixed, with 46x18. No idea what that is in funny units. Not sure what her finish time was.

J

 :thumbsup:  Me neither. Something to do with obsolete currency, I believe - pennies and farthings.

46/18 * 27 = 69
46/18 * 26.3 = 67.2 (assuming 700c wheel and 23mm tyre)...
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: thisisgrace on 28 August, 2019, 02:50:22 pm
There was an American guy riding fixed who I kept passing. He was either RUSA or Seattle Randonneurs but for the life of me didn't catch his name. Think he's done PBP a couple of times now.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 28 August, 2019, 03:43:09 pm
Shai Shprung did a list of the fixed riders in 2015. Data Protection has affected that sort of data mining. It should be possible to cross reference the tracking data and photos to see if any were on 2019. I'm not particularly interested in fixed, so I won't be bothering.

http://shprung.com/pbp/?mode=list&cc=Fixed
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 28 August, 2019, 03:46:08 pm
The only one I know of (other than Bjorn), was Eleanor Jaskowska. She did it fixed, with 46x18. No idea what that is in funny units. Not sure what her finish time was.

J

 :thumbsup:  Me neither. Something to do with obsolete currency, I believe - pennies and farthings.

It's useful for the joke about a 24 inch gear.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Phixie on 28 August, 2019, 03:51:01 pm
There was an American guy riding fixed who I kept passing. He was either RUSA or Seattle Randonneurs but for the life of me didn't catch his name. Think he's done PBP a couple of times now.

Fixed is not big in the USA, but it was probably Spencer Klaassen - see reply no. 4 on this thread from ESL. 
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Bunker22 on 28 August, 2019, 04:09:15 pm
An Audax Club Portsmouth rider (Plodder)  completed on fixed. Postie will be able to say what his gearing was. (As far as I understand it was 1 (gear)  ;D)
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: FifeingEejit on 28 August, 2019, 04:15:57 pm
The only one I know of (other than Bjorn), was Eleanor Jaskowska. She did it fixed, with 46x18. No idea what that is in funny units. Not sure what her finish time was.

J

 :thumbsup:  Me neither. Something to do with obsolete currency, I believe - pennies and farthings.

46/18 * 27 = 69


5.75 feet
or 1.92 yards
or 0.09 Chains?
Pointless working out in chains, miles or furlongs...
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 28 August, 2019, 04:25:25 pm
Was anyone faster than Ian Hands on fixed?
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 28 August, 2019, 04:30:41 pm
No
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: rob on 28 August, 2019, 04:31:24 pm
Was anyone faster than Ian Hands on fixed?

That's a hell of a ride.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 28 August, 2019, 05:28:49 pm
Was anyone faster than Ian Hands on fixed?

That's a hell of a ride.

It's quite a complicated story. His father was Adrian Hands, a committed 'full value' rider, with a time of 88'55 in 2003. Adrian succumbed to motor neurone disease in 2011, and his friend John Ende founded 'La Société Adrian Hands',  https://adrianhandssociety.com  as a sort of antidote the exclusive 'La Société Charly Miller', which celebrates US riders who do less than Charly Miller's time of 56 hours, 40 minutes in 1910. https://rusa.org/pages/CharlyMiller

Ian is the first to achieve both.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Eric Hyom on 29 August, 2019, 08:08:05 am
I rode the 1983 PBP on a 48-20, or 64.8 gear, I enjoyed the spin.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: josser on 29 August, 2019, 08:52:42 am
Tomsk and Steve Abraham rode fixed

As did Joss

Hi, I did it on 48x17, on 28mm tubeless tyres with 170mm cranks, roughly equal to about 76”? I’m not very good at doing the conversion! Only got off and walked once on the first ramp into Bécherel for about 10m (it was 2am in the morning and I ran out of gas!)  Knees were absolutely fine throughout, just left with some numbness in fingers and toes...  Always something slightly hypnotic about riding long distances on fixed I think.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Plodder on 29 August, 2019, 02:53:51 pm
An Audax Club Portsmouth rider (Plodder)  completed on fixed. Postie will be able to say what his gearing was. (As far as I understand it was 1 (gear)  ;D)

I was on 72". Same as last time.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: wilkyboy on 19 September, 2019, 06:37:32 pm
I started on 79-inches — for some reason  ::-)

Flipped to 75-inches at Mortagne.  Illness meant I spent quite a while there before pushing on to Villaines and slept until the morning, still ill.

Got to Brest okay, quicker overall than 2013 in spite of the six hours or so lost on the first two stages, but performed a strategic abandon at Loudéac on the return, 790km ridden, to save a couple of additional chilly nights chasing cut-offs, to get home a day early and in good shape to move house. 

PBP on fixed will still be there in four years' time, health and fitness permitting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Karla on 19 September, 2019, 06:40:13 pm
I started on 79-inches — for some reason  ::-)
I believe the reason is called Rob  :demon:
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: rob on 19 September, 2019, 08:58:39 pm
I started on 79-inches — for some reason  ::-)
I believe the reason is called Rob  :demon:

I have apologised.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Greenbank on 19 September, 2019, 09:48:48 pm
Sorry to hear of the DNF

Quote
... Flipped...

PBP on fixed will still be there in four years' time, health and fitness permitting  :thumbsup:

And all on the same ratio from start to finish hopefully!
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: JonB on 20 September, 2019, 08:53:52 am
Got to Brest okay, quicker overall than 2013 in spite of the six hours or so lost on the first two stages, but performed a strategic abandon at Loudéac on the return, 790km ridden, to save a couple of additional chilly nights chasing cut-offs, to get home a day early and in good shape to move house. 

I remember chatting* to you in Loudeac in the bike park just as were setting off into the very chilly night - shame about the abandon but as you say the oppportunity will be there again in 4 years especially true for you at such a young age  :thumbsup:

* I think the issue of appropriate gear inches was discussed ;)
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: wilkyboy on 20 September, 2019, 06:53:09 pm
I have apologised.

You have  :thumbsup:

* I think the issue of appropriate gear inches was discussed ;)

I think everyone may have had an earful   ::-)

And all on the same ratio from start to finish hopefully!

But not necessarily.  The rules allow for flippage, I believe, so long as both sides are fixed.
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Greenbank on 20 September, 2019, 07:15:26 pm
And all on the same ratio from start to finish hopefully!

But not necessarily.  The rules allow for flippage, I believe, so long as both sides are fixed.

The administrator of the system has previously expressed a preference for no changes during an event: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=20136.msg361264#msg361264
Title: Re: Fixed Anciens
Post by: Phixie on 21 September, 2019, 09:35:48 am
Indeed, but only a preference.  If using both cogs on a double sided fixed hub increases your enjoyment or success, then go for it.  It is even theoretically possible to use a double chainring with a suitably different pair of cogs to maintain chain tension, but a high profile fixer (no longer, apparently, OTP) tried it some considerable time ago, only to find a greater frequency of chain breakages, which he took as a hint not to buck the system.