LEL costs and entry price

[hellymedic]

5 nights, room only in a summertime Travelodge or Premier Inn would add up to more, even without food...

Either you have a dim view of Travelodges or a very rosy view of what's provided on LEL.

Travelodge in Christchurch had no food and almost no furniture...

[Graeme]

Danial, any plans to introduce a French style helmet compulsion in the week running up to LEL2025?
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Just getting my two-penneth in early.
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[alwyn]

Hah no. I do feel for the PBP team - they’ve had to deal with some appalling civic bureaucracy this edition.

[Ivo]

Hah no. I do feel for the PBP team - they’ve had to deal with some appalling civic bureaucracy this edition.

Which might call for some route redesigning next time to evade the areas with the worst petty bureaucrats.

[quixoticgeek]

Which might call for some route redesigning next time to evade the areas with the worst petty bureaucrats.

"Due to overburdening bureaucracy, this year's PBP will start outside of France and not goto Brest"

J

[Lightning Phil]

Hah no. I do feel for the PBP team - they’ve had to deal with some appalling civic bureaucracy this edition.

Which might call for some route redesigning next time to evade the areas with the worst petty bureaucrats.

Paris Basel Paris …

[LateStarter]

Germans are second largest contingent so Paris-Berlin-Paris makes sense

[quixoticgeek]

Germans are second largest contingent so Paris-Berlin-Paris makes sense

Given the issues in France. Surely Prague Berlin Prague?

J

[sibi]

Germans are second largest contingent so Paris-Berlin-Paris makes sense

Given the issues in France. Surely Prague Berlin Prague?

Too short, take three capitals: Vienna - Prague - Berlin  and back

[Salvatore]

Brest

I met a Russian one year who'd ridden to Paris via Belarus and was planning to return the same way, so if all went to plan he could claim to have ridden Brest-Paris-Brest-Paris-Brest.

[Redlight]

Paris-Bordeuax-Paris?  Much more interesting route (if a bit longer)

[marcusjb]

Brest

I met a Russian one year who'd ridden to Paris via Belarus and was planning to return the same way, so if all went to plan he could claim to have ridden Brest-Paris-Brest-Paris-Brest.

I've always had my eye on doing that Paris-Brest-Paris - I suspect it will be many years or never again before travel into those parts is possible (it was fairly challegning logistically to get to Brest due to entry/exit requirements)

[slugbait]

Germans are second largest contingent so Paris-Berlin-Paris makes sense

Given the issues in France. Surely Prague Berlin Prague?

Too short, take three capitals: Vienna - Prague - Berlin  and back

Surely the logic behind PBP is that you start just outside the capital and cycle to the western extremity of that country. Hence the German equivalent is Berlin (actually Potsdam)-Selfkant-Berlin. This gets you pretty close to 1200km.

[LittleWheelsandBig]

PBP originally started in the centre of Paris.

[Mr Larrington]

If they did Potsdam-Bielefeld-Potsdam it'd last forever as confused riders try to find the non-existent city at the halfway point

[mzjo]

If they did Potsdam-Bielefeld-Potsdam it'd last forever as confused riders try to find the non-existent city at the halfway point

Thus introducing the notion of a timeless Audax, like cricket's timeless Tests. Although somewhere in there would also be the notion of a non-Audax Audax (perhaps using the basis of a Klein bottle to calculate the delays).

[Cudzoziemiec]

Germans are second largest contingent so Paris-Berlin-Paris makes sense

Given the issues in France. Surely Prague Berlin Prague?

Too short, take three capitals: Vienna - Prague - Berlin  and back

Peace Race Mk2 ?