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Title: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: andyoxon on 18 November, 2008, 01:44:14 pm
How's the series panning out do you think?

I thought the last one (Mon BBC3) was quite gripping, and slightly shocking.

Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: pcolbeck on 18 November, 2008, 01:48:17 pm
It's brilliant entertainment. The fact that horrid things do happen and that at any time they might kill off one of the main characters helps with the tension massively. I do worry that apparently MI5 only have a team of six people to handle security for the whole of the UK though :)
Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: mattc on 18 November, 2008, 02:08:04 pm
I do worry that apparently MI5 only have a team of six people to handle security for the whole of the UK though :)

I have a feeling that this only became apparent during the last series. Before then I had the impression they were just another team (aren't they called 'Section D' ?). Anyway, we shouldn't worry - they only deal with London problems, so maybe the other 90% of MI5 deals with the Provinces.

p.s. could we 'spoiler' this thread's title if you guys reveal any more details of the next show? :)
Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: Jacomus on 19 November, 2008, 09:44:49 am
It used to be so good, back in the day of the infamous "arm in the deep fat fryer" episode.

Now they are just trying to be too cool and have lost me.

 :(
Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: citoyen on 23 November, 2008, 04:04:59 pm
It used to be so good, back in the day of the infamous "arm in the deep fat fryer" episode.

It was her head! Mother-in-law has every series on DVD and we've recently watched that first series again - and that scene is still one of the most shocking things I've ever seen on telly.

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Now they are just trying to be too cool and have lost me.

I think it went off the boil in the third series, when it became very apparent that it was trying to be a copy of 24, but I've been watching this current series and finding it thoroughly brilliant - OK, so the whole thing is utterly preposterous, but the one with the terrorists bombing a market place was suspense-drama at its finest.

d.
Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 November, 2008, 09:28:31 am
The cliff-hanger at the end of Saturday's was a cracker. Not an actual cracker - that wouldn't be very good. A metaphorical cracker.
Title: Re: Spooks...
Post by: border-rider on 24 November, 2008, 11:13:36 pm
O
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watching the latest now  :o
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 24 November, 2008, 11:42:19 pm
Just watched (no7) too, it was excellent, tense stuff - a tad gruesome though  :o  I got a bit of a 'Bourne flavour', with music etc, when Lucas was fighting in the Moscow kitchen scene.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 24 November, 2008, 11:55:32 pm
Burning through the cast...

My last post was just as ****** **** ***'s ******

Blimey.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 25 November, 2008, 12:02:08 am
Burning through the cast...

My last post was just as ****** **** ***'s ******

Blimey.

It doesn't quite get up to the deep fat fryer I guess - but yikes - graphic.  Mind you I wondered what that Russian was having his head put in by Lucas to begin with...
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 25 November, 2008, 12:06:21 am
yes, this thread was in my mind then, and I had a similar expectation :)
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 25 November, 2008, 09:31:24 am
*still stunned*
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonyh on 26 November, 2008, 06:54:38 pm
*still stunned*

Same here. Didn't even get round to opening the beer I'd lined up!

Anyone else seeing "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" references?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: citoyen on 26 November, 2008, 07:36:06 pm
I missed it this week but I've downloaded it to watch later. The comments on this episode are intriguing to say the least... I can't wait.

d.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Adrian on 26 November, 2008, 08:11:34 pm

Anyone else seeing "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" references?


Like the retired analyst who is brought back being called Connie, that sort of thing?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonyh on 01 December, 2008, 08:54:20 am

Anyone else seeing "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" references?


Like the retired analyst who is brought back being called Connie, that sort of thing?


Indeed, but also the "flushing out the Mole" operation seemed to have more similarities to TTSS than it had to, eg between what Ricky Tarr and Lucas do. Perhaps just an impression. Anyway, if some "homage" is intended, I'm glad.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonyh on 02 December, 2008, 08:15:47 am
Watching episode 7 for the second time was even more tense!

more similarities to TTSS than it had to

Hmm. Not sure, but there did seem to be things like bits of TTSS (Jim Prideaux dons different jacket and exits through fire door), and also "Smiley's People" (vital package stowed in brothel). Just the inevitable content of spy stories?

Big difference: in TTSS there were no direct clues about who the Mole was. (Or I missed them... very likely!)
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 December, 2008, 01:18:57 am
That was quite a finale. I can't wait till the next series to find out what's going to happen. I need to know now!
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonyh on 07 December, 2008, 05:31:45 am
I need to know now!

You are ahead of things? Accessed secret information?? or...

You need only wait till tomorrow night! (but that might make it worse.)

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 December, 2008, 12:09:46 pm
I'm in Scotland. The last 3 episodes have been on Saturday nights, not Mondays. So I've seen the end of the series now.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 07 December, 2008, 05:50:56 pm
they sneakily didn't do the Tuesday-of-the-week-before early showing on BBC3 last week :(

Haven't seen it yet.  So Shhhhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonyh on 07 December, 2008, 05:56:06 pm

Sorry Kirst, and thanks.
I ought to write out 100 times "I must not jump to conclusions", but doubt if I'll ever learn!

(anyone else rush to switch off at the end, before they do the "next week" bits?)
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 07 December, 2008, 06:12:47 pm
I'm not going to tell you anything about it except my nails are bitten to the quick!
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 December, 2008, 10:59:24 pm
Have you lot not watched it yet? Come on, I need to talk about it. Bloody hell!
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 08 December, 2008, 11:13:28 pm
Yep - watched.

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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 09 December, 2008, 10:26:36 am
It was well done, tense, a few surprising twists.  A pretty good series IMO.

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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: mattc on 09 December, 2008, 10:50:50 am
(anyone else rush to switch off at the end, before they do the "next week" bits?)
Of course! (well, I use the remote actually)

What's the point in knowing what happens in the next episode? Never udnerstood this previewing business ...

Anyway:
Great programme.
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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 09 December, 2008, 12:43:35 pm
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I'm glad that didn't happen.

Do you know Peter Firth used to be a Double Decker?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: clarion on 09 December, 2008, 03:03:52 pm
No.  But I do remember an odd series he was in as a kid that was on sunday afternoons.  Summat about Hungary 1956 and stuff (never did work it all out).

Wondered what had happened to him.  He was quite cherubic as a youth.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 09 December, 2008, 08:25:22 pm
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;D

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 09 December, 2008, 08:57:11 pm
Please STFU.
I can't see this 'til I'm home on Thursday (assuming that I programmed the box with lights correctly- there's never a 12 year old around when you need one).

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 09 December, 2008, 09:01:27 pm
Ah.
I can see how the previous post might read.
What I meant was that 12 year olds (or young persons of the world, exact age not being critical to what I was trying to say) might be able to do techie stuff better than..........

Oh you know what I mean.
Don't you ?

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: alan on 09 December, 2008, 10:23:59 pm
Yeah,I do
.My grand-daughter is more IT & techie than I am, & she is quite chuffed when she demonstrates same :-[
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 09 December, 2008, 10:54:02 pm
Please STFU.
I can't see this 'til I'm home on Thursday (assuming that I programmed the box with lights correctly- there's never a 12 year old around when you need one).



Well don't read the f-ing thread then. It says SPOILER in the thread title.  ::-)

Berk!  ;D
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Manotea on 09 December, 2008, 11:06:42 pm
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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 10 December, 2008, 04:29:24 pm
BBC NEWS | Magazine | Can truth serum work? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7773261.stm)

Is this what was 'used' on Harry?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 10 December, 2008, 04:32:38 pm
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Ah yes, it was a substantial metal table, was it not? And dramatic license can work wonders...  I tend to think xxxx is not alive.
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Post by: border-rider on 10 December, 2008, 04:35:54 pm
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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 10 December, 2008, 10:34:04 pm

Well don't read the f-ing thread then. It says SPOILER in the thread title.  ::-)

Berk!  ;D


OK- guilty.
But I was worried that secrets would leak out, if you know what I mean.
And if you do, "The geese fly south over Krakow".

Nuff said.
Hope to watch it tomorrow.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: mr magnolia on 10 December, 2008, 10:42:42 pm
I'm in Scotland. The last 3 episodes have been on Saturday nights, not Mondays. So I've seen the end of the series now.

we got well and truly perplexed in this house by the combination of bbc1 / bbc3 consecutive episodes and then the switch to Saturdays for what we thought must be repeats...

completely bonkers - but gripping yarns!
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 11 December, 2008, 08:55:50 pm
Watching it now.
I've broken out a glass of the nice wine  :thumbsup:

Will report back.

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 11 December, 2008, 09:46:07 pm
Bloody hell.

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 11 December, 2008, 10:22:41 pm
Good, Eh?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 11 December, 2008, 10:25:07 pm
Can we talk about it now then ?

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Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 11 December, 2008, 11:09:56 pm
Go ahead.
At the moment I can't say anything more coherent than "Bloody hell".  :o

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 11 December, 2008, 11:14:07 pm
Can we talk about it now then ?

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WARNING

Here is a message for anyone who has not watched the last episode (or any other for that matter). My next post is liable to contain visible, unhidden spoilers.

If you don't want to read them

WhyTF ARE YOU HERE?!!!!  >:( >:(

 ;D

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: clarion on 11 December, 2008, 11:15:01 pm
Nooooooo!!!!! I've not seen it yet! :o










Oh - but I'm not bothered.  As you were ;D
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 13 December, 2008, 09:19:05 pm
OK, I've watched it again.
On reflection, I can conclusively say "Bloody hell".

Bring on the next series.

HTH  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: gordon taylor on 13 December, 2008, 10:30:38 pm
I enjoyed it too.
I was actually, literally, sitting on the edge of my seat.

Great entertainment.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: alan on 15 December, 2008, 12:53:36 pm
Hope Harry can breathe in there o.k. untill the start of the next series :demon:
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 04 November, 2009, 06:01:25 pm
Hope Harry can breathe in there o.k. untill the start of the next series :demon:

Which is tonight - heads up

What news of Harry ?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Karla on 04 November, 2009, 07:49:28 pm
We're going to get a major character return to help save him, apparently.

I'm not talking about Zoe...
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 04 November, 2009, 07:52:34 pm
Looking forward to this though I'll be in the pub when it's on.
I'll avoid this thread 'til I've seen recording.

I don't want Tony calling me a berk again  :P ;D

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 04 November, 2009, 10:29:56 pm
Oh, that was good.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: pcolbeck on 04 November, 2009, 10:31:58 pm
Most excellent. Role on next week.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: her_welshness on 05 November, 2009, 12:16:02 am
Bloody briliant  :thumbsup: Totally gripping stuff. And you can watch the next episode on Friday, I believe on BBC Three!

8 episodes for a season is a tad short but Mr Welshness and I both agreed that the writing was very tight, I don't think there is going to be any filler/fluff for the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: alan on 05 November, 2009, 05:32:17 am
Hope Harry can breathe in there o.k. untill the start of the next series :demon:

A bit of a bummer that...he's in the boot of that car for many months :loses no weight,maintains personal hygiene o.k.-ish(on the face of it) & when he gets out some foreign tw*t wants to give him the bullet.Thank god for Ros,Lucas et al :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Karla on 05 November, 2009, 01:46:08 pm
I thought it was a bit 24ish myself. Still, we'll see. 

I liked the fact that the Indian bloke commented, "everyone else was at it like rabbits" when reviewing Harry and Ruth's relationship.  So...I (along with every viewer) wasn't the only one to notice that then.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 05 November, 2009, 10:50:58 pm
Looking forward to this though I'll be in the pub when it's on.
I'll avoid this thread 'til I've seen recording.

I don't want Tony calling me a berk again  :P ;D


;D

What amazes me about spooks is that (at least for me) every episode is feature film quality (and we're talking good films here - not your B movie crap). Excellent stories, excellent writing, and excellent acting. Edge of the seat stuff.

I also like the fact that they don't flinch from killing people off. Keeps you well and truly guessing.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: alan on 06 November, 2009, 07:15:34 am
the fact that they don't flinch from killing people off. Keeps you well and truly guessing.


a bit like the contracting business :demon:
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 06 November, 2009, 02:29:14 pm
Oh ! Exciting !
That was gripping.

It was good to see Ruth back, even if it is only for one episode.
It reminded me of the "Racist" episode a few series back when I laughed out loud:-

Ruth is standing over unconscious racist group leader. She's holding a stick:

Ruth: "Shall I hit him again Adam ?"
Adam: "Only if you want to Ruth."

 ;D
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 11 November, 2009, 09:53:51 pm
I'm glad Jo's got over her too much black eye makeup phase. It was really annoying me last series.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 11 November, 2009, 09:56:18 pm
Who else shouted "why the fuck are you wearing a  caving helmet, you Hoxton tit ?"

and then smiled when he T-boned the car ?

Just me ?
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: andyoxon on 11 November, 2009, 10:47:21 pm
Not really, you're just getting a bit 'extreme' these days...  ;)

I notice we have to wait till Friday for the next one.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: TheLurker on 12 November, 2009, 01:01:02 pm
Who else shouted "why the fuck are you wearing a  caving helmet, you Hoxton tit ?"

and then smiled when he T-boned the car ?

Just me ?
No, but I was thoroughly irritated and not a little baffled that a (presumably) low paid civil servant would be so cheerful at having his bike written off (no flesh wounds, bruises or torn clothes either come to that) by a moton and would just wander off without stopping to educate the aforementioned moton in the error of his ways...

...and there's me thinking Spooks was supposed to be a documentary. ;)
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: pcolbeck on 12 November, 2009, 01:03:25 pm
It was a cheap supermarket bike shaped object and it was his first day in his new job at The Grid where they operate a bike to work scheme so he knows he is getting that shiny new fixie he has been lusting after.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 12 November, 2009, 01:03:43 pm
I was slightly mollified when Mrs MV pointed out that as he hit the ground and rolled, his head failed to make contact with anything.  Proving, she says, that helmets protect you :)
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: mattc on 12 November, 2009, 01:08:59 pm
I was impressed by the makers' judgement in the honey-trap scene.

I reckon any other post-watershed 'modern' drama would have had Jo get a lot further in her seduction of The Bad Guy before the distraction/cavalry arrived. Shows you don't need nudity for a scene to work. That and the stolen moments scene at the end were wonderfully retro in style.

[Regarding the closing of the honey-trap - i was hoping for something like:

BB: It's no good - I can't shoot a man in cold blood <cries>
Jo: Oh give me the bloody gun you useless poet <shots, blood ... >
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: border-rider on 14 November, 2009, 12:10:45 am
 :o

just watched the next one, the one in the basement.

That's all I'll say for now. 
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 November, 2009, 12:01:13 pm
Me too.  :o
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 16 November, 2009, 10:41:54 pm
I've also just watched that one.  :o :o

Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Karla on 16 November, 2009, 11:53:47 pm
Well, I suppose it makes sense. 
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Cunobelin on 18 November, 2009, 10:00:33 pm
No details as it would spoil for thise who haven't seen it, but the ending of this week was absolute stupendous and so unexpected - it simply shows that this is one of those shows that you cannot be comfortable with or it will bite you!

The underplayed simple nod was better than any script.
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: tonycollinet on 19 November, 2009, 11:40:56 pm
No details as it would spoil for thise who haven't seen it...........

Well yes, but that is why it says spoilers in the thread title. I still contend that anyone reading this and NOT wanting to know what happened is a detonator short of a basement bomb
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Andrew Br on 20 November, 2009, 11:00:13 am

Well yes, but that is why it says spoilers in the thread title. I still contend that anyone reading this and NOT wanting to know what happened is a detonator short of a basement bomb

Or they're a berk  ;)

Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: tonycollinet on 20 November, 2009, 07:02:41 pm
Could be an alternate definition.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 November, 2009, 10:12:44 pm
Just watched tonight's.

I think I am in love with Richard Armitage's thighs.

And I knew she was a wrong 'un.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: mattc on 26 November, 2009, 09:47:52 am
(I assume Kirst means LAST night's ... ]

Cracking ending. Hmmm?
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 26 November, 2009, 05:52:09 pm
Yes, they're on Friday nights on BBC3 and then BBC1 the following Wednesday.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: andyoxon on 26 November, 2009, 05:56:13 pm
I had no idea she'd turn out bad.  More fool Lucas.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: mattc on 26 November, 2009, 06:11:33 pm
The writers were bound to bring 'complications' into their romance, but I expected it to be more like pressure put on them from outside.

There was a delicious 15mins after she barged into his flat 'accidentally' when no-one really knew who to trust, and WE didn't know who could be trusted either. It really emphasised the shifting sands all the spooks work on - something Spooks usually doesn't make such a big thing out of. Still, it's shaping up nicely. (And hopefully Ros won't hog too much limelight).
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: gordon taylor on 26 November, 2009, 06:32:59 pm
I missed last night's and can't work out when it'll be on a BBC channel again. Surely it is repeated like Dr Who? I don't understand the website...

(Old fogey disease)
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Naggers on 26 November, 2009, 06:47:05 pm
I missed last night's and can't work out when it'll be on a BBC channel again. Surely it is repeated like Dr Who? I don't understand the website...

(Old fogey disease)

Don't think they are repeated. You want the "On Demand" button on your telly or the
i-player on your PC
Title: Re: Spooks... (possible spoiler)
Post by: Naggers on 26 November, 2009, 06:49:07 pm
I was impressed by the makers' judgement in the honey-trap scene.

I reckon any other post-watershed 'modern' drama would have had Jo get a lot further in her seduction of The Bad Guy before the distraction/cavalry arrived. Shows you don't need nudity for a scene to work.

Whereas I was very disappointed with the makers judgement  :P
Especially as she only lasted one more episode  :'(
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 26 November, 2009, 06:57:38 pm
I missed last night's and can't work out when it'll be on a BBC channel again. Surely it is repeated like Dr Who? I don't understand the website...

(Old fogey disease)
Last night was the repeat. The first showing is BBC3 on Friday nights. Wednesday nights on BBC1 is the repeat. You'll have to use iPlayer.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Zipperhead on 26 November, 2009, 11:35:22 pm
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I do enjoy it, but I wish that everytime the camera people start waving the cameras around, someone would smack them round the head. I don't want to get motion sickness from watching a TV program set on dry land.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: her_welshness on 02 December, 2009, 09:04:25 pm
OMFG - Just caught up on last weeks episode on iplayer  :o  :o  :o

Husband instructed me to watch it before tonight's episode, am so glad that I did!
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Zipperhead on 02 December, 2009, 11:26:59 pm
Thames House (which is really the Masonic Hall) must be a really uncomfortable place to work, because in all the scenes there, their faces are lit from below.

Oh, and how did Ros go into her flat in Kensington, and then go up onto the roof of a building over by brick lane? Was Dr. Who involved?

And would somebody smack the camera people. Smack them hard and keep doing it until either they start using bloody tripods more, or start taking their Parkinsons medication.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: ludwig on 04 December, 2009, 06:07:12 am
I thought that the locations were great but I was wondering how comes you could go into those smart flats, up a fire escape ladder into a sort of post industrial, dripping bunker sort of place that looked like an overturned shipwreck. Still good fun though. I wanna join up and run about with cool tattooes and leather jackets though and look all psychologically damaged in my shiny London flat. Beats working on a nursery.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Riggers on 04 December, 2009, 10:59:52 am
And I'm glad that American pasty-faced bint has turned out to be a nasty piece of work too, as I took an instant dislike to her first appearance on Spooks, and I can't wait for her to come to a sticky end (and there's no pun there chaps so don't go looking for one!).
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: her_welshness on 09 December, 2009, 09:40:34 pm
Great line from Harry: 'Cometh the hour, cometh the geek'  ;D
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: border-rider on 23 December, 2009, 10:48:10 pm
Good one tonight.

How many references to 80s music can Ros get in ?  I've got REM and The Daintees so far :)
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Post by: her_welshness on 23 December, 2009, 11:19:30 pm
Good one tonight.

How many references to 80s music can Ros get in ?  I've got REM and The Daintees so far :)

I adore Ros  :thumbsup: She (Hermione Norris) acts a great crazy biyatch. Will she survive? Methinks not.
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Post by: border-rider on 23 December, 2009, 11:20:15 pm
Sadly, I agree.  Good ending though.
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Post by: her_welshness on 23 December, 2009, 11:24:27 pm
Sadly, I agree.  Good ending though.

Am just glad that (in my opinion) its back to its best. And bringing back in Ruth as a character was a genious move.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 December, 2009, 08:06:39 am
That was good and I love seeing Ruth and Harry realising they're still crazy about each other.
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Post by: border-rider on 24 December, 2009, 08:59:37 am
So far Malcolm's been the only one to walk away...
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Post by: Jacomus on 24 December, 2009, 09:01:58 am
Grr, I was irritated by the bomb countdown sequence - classic film stuff where they pack way too much activity into the countdown time.

Aside from that part, a very good episode.
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Post by: andyoxon on 24 December, 2009, 09:18:04 am
Good episode - but was it just me or was the explosion a tad weedy.  It could have just been the production company cutting back on CGI expense, but the fireball didn't seem to reach the fifth floor.   Ros lives... ;)
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Post by: Naggers on 29 December, 2009, 11:24:00 am
Grr, I was irritated by the bomb countdown sequence - classic film stuff where they pack way too much activity into the countdown time.

Aside from that part, a very good episode.

Bugged me too. Harry got from Thames House to Docklands in what, 3 minutes?
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 September, 2010, 02:59:51 pm
Spooooooooks! Back on Monday!
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Post by: her_welshness on 18 September, 2010, 03:36:22 pm
Spooooooooks! Back on Monday!

Wooo hoooo, but boooo hoooo to Hermione Norris not being in it anymore.
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Post by: mattc on 18 September, 2010, 05:39:05 pm
Ding-dong, The witch is dead!

Ah, just seen her_w's post, sorry about that ...
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Post by: her_welshness on 20 September, 2010, 09:23:49 pm
Ooooh its good so far  :thumbsup:
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Post by: border-rider on 20 September, 2010, 10:09:48 pm
Very good.  Just a tad implausible towards the end, perhaps ;)
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Post by: Cunobelin on 20 September, 2010, 10:12:59 pm
Loved the ending!

That sets up a few possibilities!

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Post by: andyoxon on 20 September, 2010, 10:15:42 pm
I thought it was good too - some fairly obvious CGI towards the end, but not too bad.  

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Post by: Jaded on 20 September, 2010, 10:50:59 pm
Very good.  Just a tad implausible towards the end, perhaps ;)

Yes, there wasn't anyone using an iPhone on Westminster Bridge.  ;D
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Post by: mattc on 21 September, 2010, 10:50:36 am
A pretty good start. The opening 5mins were brill - probably the most downbeat start to a primetime series the Beeb has ever shown.

I was hoping the business on the ship would turn out differently - each crew member and passenger would take turns to reveal themselves as operatives of a different clandestine organisation; cue much bitchy banter and wholesale arse-kicking of the turrurists.
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Post by: tiermat on 27 September, 2010, 03:44:14 pm
It amazes me, when I watch this, just how fast and loose they play with protocols, until it suits them, just so a storyline emerges.

Ep. 1, for instance, operative (Lucas/John) meets civvy contractor on boat, they escape to Spain, he returns to UK.  Next thing you know she is on an op with Lucas to arrest an extremist.  Just would not happen, no way, no how.  Similar happened when Lucas returned from Russia, one minute he is being handed over by the Russians, the next minute he is on ops....

Other than that, now the annoying cow is gone, it is good, I especially liked the way they dealt with getting rid of the former home sec.
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Post by: mattc on 27 September, 2010, 03:47:41 pm
tiermat:
I suggest you watch a few old Bond movies. Your perspective will be reset perfectly, and you will be able to enjoy Spooks like the rest of us, unfettered by this baggage you are carrying :)
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 September, 2010, 06:53:16 pm
It amazes me, when I watch this, just how fast and loose they play with protocols, until it suits them, just so a storyline emerges.

Ep. 1, for instance, operative (Lucas/John) meets civvy contractor on boat, they escape to Spain, he returns to UK.  Next thing you know she is on an op with Lucas to arrest an extremist.  Just would not happen, no way, no how.  Similar happened when Lucas returned from Russia, one minute he is being handed over by the Russians, the next minute he is on ops....
I think we need to explain to you the concept of telly time vs real time. Lucas actually spent ages being debriefed *little moment* but they skipped the story ahead to when it was all finished so as not to hold the story up for months. Also, that man has the most magnificent thighs.
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Post by: tiermat on 27 September, 2010, 08:05:44 pm
I think we need to explain to you the concept of telly time vs real time. Lucas actually spent ages being debriefed *little moment* but they skipped the story ahead to when it was all finished so as not to hold the story up for months. Also, that man has the most magnificent thighs.

Are you sure? As I remember, he was handed over, complete with fresh cuts and bruises.

Cut to next scene, cuts and bruises not healed, but he is straight out on ops.  In Ep. 1 of this series, as I said upthread, silly mercenary bint walks into MI5, no verified govt clearence, and straight away goes out on an op with them.... I would say it wouldn't happen, but instead I will say it shouldn't happen...

I am not a _complete_ idiot, but TBH little things like that irritate me :)  If I wanted to watch something where I suspended disbelief I would watch Pan's Labyrinth, or more in this vein, The Men Who Stare At Goats.
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Post by: mattc on 27 September, 2010, 08:08:27 pm
I am not a _complete_ idiot, but TBH little things like that irritate me :) 

You should start a new thread, like the spelling/grammar/punctuation ones:

" Fictional Events that Make Me Cringe "
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Post by: tiermat on 27 September, 2010, 08:09:54 pm
:P  ;D
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Post by: Karla on 27 September, 2010, 10:33:02 pm
Also, that man has the most magnificent thighs.
This is a *cycling* forum, I'm sure we could provide some competition.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 28 September, 2010, 08:05:48 am
Nah. He's my new telly favourite.
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Post by: her_welshness on 04 October, 2010, 09:19:04 pm
Confused now  ???
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 04 October, 2010, 10:18:00 pm
Me too. I wish Harry and Ruth would just get married though. All this unrequited love isn't doing him any good.
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Post by: red marley on 04 October, 2010, 10:19:58 pm
"Central University" was my place of work. My office just round the corner from the unfortunate Prof.
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Post by: Steve Kish on 04 October, 2010, 10:33:14 pm
Apart from The Simpson, this is about the only thing I ever go out of my way to see without fail!   Rivetted to my seat for each episode. :thumbsup:
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Post by: mattc on 05 October, 2010, 11:21:04 am
Confused now  ???
There was quite a lot of confusion dotted about this episode. Felt like a lot of stuff got left in the editing suite.

Still, pretty good episode overall.

Do we approve of the encroachment of Story Arcs into this series? (We've got the Lucas-back-story and Harry-Ruth now). Or did I just notice it less in previous series?!?
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Post by: her_welshness on 05 October, 2010, 08:51:12 pm
Confused now  ???
There was quite a lot of confusion dotted about this episode. Felt like a lot of stuff got left in the editing suite.

Still, pretty good episode overall.

Do we approve of the encroachment of Story Arcs into this series? (We've got the Lucas-back-story and Harry-Ruth now). Or did I just notice it less in previous series?!?

I do not approve tbh. It had better be a bloody good arc otherwise I will throw things at the telly/iplayer. I'm much more interested in the Harry-Ruth story, it is far more titillating and thats so many seasons down the line.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 05 October, 2010, 09:46:33 pm
I loooooooooooooove Harry and Ruth. I want them to get married and be happily married spies. But I think Harry might die or retire soon.
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Post by: andyoxon on 13 October, 2010, 01:35:34 pm
Good tense episode (iplayer lastnight) I thought.  Lucas is being a very naughty boy.
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Post by: mattc on 13 October, 2010, 07:39:18 pm
One for the Fictional Events that Make Me Cringe thread:

Passwords typed in readable format  :facepalm:

Other than that, a good episode!
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 13 October, 2010, 09:42:05 pm
Good tense episode (iplayer lastnight) I thought.  Lucas is being a very naughty boy.
I'm very worried about him. If he'd gone to Harry and told him what was going on, Harry would have tried to help. But now he's being deceitful and Ruth is onto him and when those Chinese people try to set him up, nobody will believe him.  :(
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Post by: Deano on 13 October, 2010, 10:57:35 pm
One for the Fictional Events that Make Me Cringe thread:

Passwords typed in readable format  :facepalm:

Other than that, a good episode!

I assumed he read it from the keyboard. 
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Post by: Zipperhead on 13 October, 2010, 11:12:44 pm
One for the Fictional Events that Make Me Cringe thread:

Passwords typed in readable format  :facepalm:

Other than that, a good episode!

I assumed he read it from the keyboard. 

Nope, the person that he stole it from had it displayed in plaintext on his device when he logged in.

Also from my (very) limited experience with dealing with such types of organisations, it used to be that they didn't even trust wired ethernet, so how come that they wander around connecting to the office computers using wireless laptops at home?

Now I'm ranting. Computers that beep whenever anything is displayed?
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Post by: andyoxon on 14 October, 2010, 01:03:48 pm
Good tense episode (iplayer lastnight) I thought.  Lucas is being a very naughty boy.
I'm very worried about him. If he'd gone to Harry and told him what was going on, Harry would have tried to help. But now he's being deceitful and Ruth is onto him and when those Chinese people try to set him up, nobody will believe him.  :(

Yep, the truth will out, and it's not going be pretty.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 14 October, 2010, 07:25:54 pm
Lucas is though.
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Post by: her_welshness on 15 October, 2010, 09:00:10 pm
Lucas is though.

Yes, that is a decent body on a man. I watched the latest episode just now. Absolutely loved the actor who played Kai, knockout performance.
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Post by: her_welshness on 18 October, 2010, 09:04:54 pm
'Have you downloaded the Home Office app' asks the Home Secretary.  :)
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 October, 2010, 10:06:55 pm
I reckon Lucas would be a really dirty shag.

Have I mentioned how much I love Harry? I voted for Peter thingy for best drama performance in the National Television awards. I don't know why the National Television Awards emailed me to ask me to vote in them, but I decided to take advantage of it.
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Post by: groucho on 19 October, 2010, 11:10:41 am
Hello John!  :-\
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Post by: mattc on 19 October, 2010, 12:05:11 pm
Hello John!  :-\
Ha - that was a pretty good twist, wasn't it? (And I don't mind if we only get 60 seconds of the Lucas saga every week.)

Really good episode, I thought.

p.s. Kirst: do we now have clearance to comment on female pulchritude in Spooks? (Not that I was planning to just yet, but it's nice to know the ground rules :P )
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Post by: Jaded on 19 October, 2010, 12:09:45 pm
I presume you mean Ruth?
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Post by: andyoxon on 20 October, 2010, 04:44:17 pm
Hello John!  :-\
Ha - that was a pretty good twist, wasn't it? (And I don't mind if we only get 60 seconds of the Lucas saga every week.)

Really good episode, I thought.

p.s. Kirst: do we now have clearance to comment on female pulchritude in Spooks? (Not that I was planning to just yet, but it's nice to know the ground rules :P )

Yes, good episode.  IMO the sniper's self injury to appear as an 'emergency' was a tad extreme, given it looked like he was after a femoral artery!
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Post by: mattc on 20 October, 2010, 04:50:50 pm
Yes, good episode.  IMO the sniper's self injury to appear as an 'emergency' was a tad extreme, given it looked like he was after a femoral artery!
I assumed that was a somewhat unsubtle narrative hint*:
"Remember folks, these guys would cut their own leg off to kill some of the other lot!"

[*damn, can't remember the correct term for this  :facepalm: ]


I presume you mean Ruth?

<sits on hands ... >
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Post by: ludwig on 21 October, 2010, 07:27:31 am
I can't take harry seriously now that I know that he was in the double deckers
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Post by: Zipperhead on 21 October, 2010, 02:23:08 pm
Did anybody else spot that the "Hotel" was the same building that was used in the opening titles of The Professionals?
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Post by: her_welshness on 25 October, 2010, 09:13:52 pm
Oooh, cyber terrorism  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Zipperhead on 26 October, 2010, 12:53:38 am
What a pile of old cock. What's worse is they must have a plant in here.

At 13:28 - "No we can't risk the either, they could be monitoring everyone, GHCQ, Six, CTC"
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Post by: mattc on 26 October, 2010, 05:25:43 pm
I reckon Lucas would be a really dirty shag.

Apparently he's up to play Thorin Oakenshield in the Hobbit movies. I guess he's got a suitably deep voice.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 26 October, 2010, 05:34:47 pm
He's a bit tall to be a hobbit, I think. Anyway, last night's was a bit dramatic and over the top.
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Post by: Karla on 26 October, 2010, 05:46:31 pm
I thought last night's was the first really good Spooks in a while.  However, if it means that your hunk of meat may disappear off the program soon, I understand why you're upset Kirst .
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Post by: Andrew Br on 26 October, 2010, 05:57:02 pm
I think he's going to be a dwarf.
Which is strange.

Haven't watched last night's Spooks yet.
After initially being annoyed by it, I'm finding the Lucas saga more gripping than the main story.

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Post by: mattc on 26 October, 2010, 06:18:32 pm
What a pile of old cock. What's worse is they must have a plant in here.

At 13:28 - "No we can't risk the either, they could be monitoring everyone, GHCQ, Six, CTC"

But bloody entertaining old cock!

I heard the CTC thing too - what did they actually say, anyone?
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Post by: Adrian on 26 October, 2010, 07:04:32 pm
What a pile of old cock. What's worse is they must have a plant in here.

At 13:28 - "No we can't risk the either, they could be monitoring everyone, GHCQ, Six, CTC"

But bloody entertaining old cock!

I heard the CTC thing too - what did they actually say, anyone?

That was what was said. I guess that would mean Counter Terrorism something.

Harry was quick to slap Ruth down when she started talking about Lucas. Maybe he is doing something for Harry that we don't yet know about or Harry is using him to do something.
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Post by: andyoxon on 26 October, 2010, 07:10:36 pm
Good ending I thought...

(click to show/hide)

BTW why do reckon Malcolm refered to Lucas as 'John'..?
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Post by: Andrew Br on 26 October, 2010, 09:10:35 pm
Just watched it.
As it ended I said "Epic" out loud  ::-).
This talking when my invisible friend is out of the room has got to stop.

Then I turned over and some ads came on and Lucas was imploring me to join Santander.
I don't bloody think so..................

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Post by: border-rider on 26 October, 2010, 10:11:54 pm
(click to show/hide)

Now, that couldn't have happened without official help, could it ?

I've just
(click to show/hide)

and it took about a week ;)

Harry must know.  I think that's the reason he cut Ruth short

I loved the CTC reference though.  They def.  monitor us here  :o
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 26 October, 2010, 10:21:40 pm
*waves to Lucas*
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Post by: Andrew Br on 27 October, 2010, 12:45:13 am
*waves to Lucas*

The dwarf.

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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 October, 2010, 08:05:51 am
 :'(
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Post by: mattc on 27 October, 2010, 10:30:55 am
[... thorin Oakenshield ...]

I think he's going to be a dwarf.
Which is strange.


Now this is interesting - apparently Spooks fans aren't generally Tolkien fans/geeks.
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Post by: Andrew Br on 27 October, 2010, 01:43:05 pm
I think he's going to be a dwarf.
Which is strange.


Now this is interesting - apparently Spooks fans aren't generally Tolkien fans/geeks.

But teenage boys grow up and their interests broaden  ;)

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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 27 October, 2010, 06:16:28 pm
As do teenage girls.
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Post by: mattc on 27 October, 2010, 06:43:33 pm
Wo' evaaaa.
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Post by: Cunobelin on 01 November, 2010, 09:57:30 pm
Well - knock me down with a wet herring!

That shows why this programme is one that simply cannot be taken for granted.

Swift plot changes and an absolutely unexpected outcomes.



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Post by: Adrian on 01 November, 2010, 10:08:08 pm

Harry was quick to slap Ruth down when she started talking about Lucas. Maybe he is doing something for Harry that we don't yet know about or Harry is using him to do something.

See, pretty much as predicted thus far
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Post by: border-rider on 01 November, 2010, 10:35:16 pm
Blimey.

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Post by: Karla on 01 November, 2010, 10:40:33 pm
This exit is proving far more entertaining than the Ros or Adam versions, though Tom's was probably still the best. 

One thing I noticed was that Lucas was using a modern flip-cover mobile phone in 1995.  Do you think the next plot twist is that he'll be revealed to be a time lord?
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Post by: border-rider on 01 November, 2010, 10:42:34 pm
One thing I noticed was that Lucas was using a modern flip-cover mobile phone in 1995.  Do you think the next plot twist is that he'll be revealed to be a time lord?

Mmm

I'd got that one too :)

Did they really have a digital network in Dacca in 1995 ?

:)
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Post by: Jaded on 01 November, 2010, 10:47:58 pm
He got it when he was an extra in a Charlie Chaplin film.
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Post by: Andrew Br on 01 November, 2010, 11:01:29 pm
It's been said earlier (by MV I think) that Malcolm is the only one who has been able to retire.
I wonder if Lucas/John showing up on his doorstep has put the dampener on that  :-\

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Post by: andyoxon on 01 November, 2010, 11:10:37 pm
One thing I noticed was that Lucas was using a modern flip-cover mobile phone in 1995.  Do you think the next plot twist is that he'll be revealed to be a time lord?

Mmm

I'd got that one too :)

Did they really have a digital network in Dacca in 1995 ?

:)

Could have been a cutting edge analogue mobile...

Thought the hitman sub plot was well done...  But, anyway, what is 'Albany'?
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 02 November, 2010, 07:50:55 am
 :o :o :'(
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Post by: her_welshness on 02 November, 2010, 08:16:27 am
:o :o :'(

Yeah I know! Evil Lucas (although he still has a great body). I lurve the reappearance of Malcolm.
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Post by: mike on 02 November, 2010, 08:38:33 am
This exit is proving far more entertaining than the Ros or Adam versions, though Tom's was probably still the best. 

One thing I noticed was that Lucas was using a modern flip-cover mobile phone in 1995.  Do you think the next plot twist is that he'll be revealed to be a time lord?

they existed - I had a flip down motorola phone in 1995.  It was crap.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: mattc on 02 November, 2010, 09:35:09 am
This exit is proving far more entertaining than the Ros or Adam versions, though Tom's was probably still the best. 

One thing I noticed was that Lucas was using a modern flip-cover mobile phone in 1995.  Do you think the next plot twist is that he'll be revealed to be a time lord?

they existed - I had a flip down motorola phone in 1995.  It was crap.
The thing is, he could have just used an old-skool radio detonator thingy, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Odd prop choice ...

Anyway, another good episode. My only whinge is that the dual plot was a bit disorienting. Last week started with 2 strands, then everything tied together. I kept trying to work out the connection between the Ruth story and the Lucas one.
It looks like the Ruth story was just to highlight Harry's emotions about his occifers (treacherous or loyal), which was a bit naff - I prefer it when that stuff is told more subtley.
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Post by: Karla on 02 November, 2010, 09:51:58 am
The Lucas North of the 1990s was a bit silly, don't you think?  Going around, blabbing to all and sundry that he was applying to MI5 in order to serve England, Harry and St George was not exactly the sign of a good spy.
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Post by: border-rider on 02 November, 2010, 10:05:12 am
It looks like the Ruth story was just to highlight Harry's emotions about his occifers (treacherous or loyal), which was a bit naff - I prefer it when that stuff is told more subtley.

Also the contrast between people who can cut it and those who can't  - the council chap who'd been turned down many times and fell apart when he shot someone, and the people who got in and didn't turn a hair at killing

John being firmly in the latter camp, but never having formally been accepted...
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Post by: mattc on 02 November, 2010, 10:43:36 am
...
been turned down many times
...
John being firmly in the latter camp, but never having formally been accepted...
Ah of course - I hadn't twigged that bit.

I bet you were good at Eng.Lit. essays :P
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Post by: red marley on 02 November, 2010, 09:59:52 pm
Yeah-anda-novva-fing. Why, when Ruth grabbed the key from the string through the letterbox, did she not thread it back through after opening the door? Don't they teach them in Spy School not to leave your front door key on the outside when burgling someone's flat? I'm beginning to think that the Spooks writers may be being somewhat economical with the actualité.


Great episode though.
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Post by: andyoxon on 08 November, 2010, 05:32:59 pm
Ready for the series finale...?  Lucas has seen the future and it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: her_welshness on 08 November, 2010, 09:06:18 pm
Ooh loved Harry's opening lines.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: her_welshness on 08 November, 2010, 09:18:12 pm
Gahh thats not Greenwich, thats Bermondsey and the London Cycling Campaign headquarters! And thats not Lucas you fools!
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 November, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
*le gasp*
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Andrew Br on 08 November, 2010, 10:03:43 pm
Condolences Kirst.

Still, bring on 2011  ;)

Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: andyoxon on 08 November, 2010, 10:04:52 pm
Hazza will pull through what's coming next.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 08 November, 2010, 10:12:55 pm
I hope him and Ruth hurry up and get married.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: her_welshness on 08 November, 2010, 10:20:20 pm
I hope him and Ruth hurry up and get married.

FFS I hope this too!

Loving that Demetri though, fwwwooooooaaaaaar.
Title: Re: Spooks... (spoiler likely)
Post by: mike on 08 November, 2010, 10:22:07 pm
I hope him and Ruth hurry up and get married.

...and retire.

My money's on the bloke they bought into that episode (the one that harry cured of alcoholism in about 30 seconds) being the new chief.

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Post by: jogler on 08 November, 2010, 10:53:25 pm
Harry's gonna get the Order of the Boot
Ruth will resign & marry him
Roz will be resurrected to do Harry's job
The blonde will be new Section leader

All as per the Service's published desire to increase the % of females on the staff:according the the Daily Wail
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Post by: Karla on 09 November, 2010, 11:54:55 am
It'd make sense for Harry to go now, since he's been doing it for nine  years.  Of course, if he does go then we have no original characters remaining, unless Malcolm comes back of course.  Ruth will be the one with the longest history, she started in series 2. 

I liked the episode, although I thought that the way Lucas was allowed to escape in the car park was completely amateurish on Beth and Dimitri's part.  I also still prefer Tom's exit to Lucas's: his walk out into the North Sea was a piece of film that I doubt they'll surpass.
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Post by: andyoxon on 09 November, 2010, 12:48:18 pm
On gory deaths, it's probably just as well they didn't surpass, I don't think, Helen's (LF) demise with deep fat fryer... Series 1?
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Post by: Karla on 09 November, 2010, 03:22:24 pm
The deep fat fryer was in season 1 episode 2.  I doubt they'll surpass that level of violence, since it got the BBC's record number of complaints (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3073921.stm) for that year.
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Post by: MattH on 10 November, 2010, 11:55:54 am
That episode put me off spooks (and I'm normally OK with gory things), I only started watching again a couple of series ago. The more recent stuff is much more like a Hollywood movie than the really dark, uncomfortable viewing of the first series.
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Post by: tonyh on 11 November, 2010, 06:53:23 am
Good interview with Peter Firth:

BBC - Radio 4 -  Front Row (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/front-row/)
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Post by: mattc on 11 November, 2010, 12:09:47 pm
That's a great interview. I loved his comments about filming 4 episodes in parallel, and having a couple of catch-all-Harry-expressions to fall back on when he lost the plot :P
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 11 August, 2011, 05:27:48 pm
It's on the BBC website that the series starting next month will be the last and will focus on Harry's past and his & Ruth's relationship.

 :'(
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 18 September, 2011, 09:08:52 pm
It's back!
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Post by: her_welshness on 18 September, 2011, 09:09:34 pm
Yippeee, this won over Downton Abbey tonight. What is to become of Harry?
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Post by: her_welshness on 18 September, 2011, 10:01:44 pm
Oooh that was so good. I think they have really put a lot of thought into this last season  :thumbsup:
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Post by: andyoxon on 18 September, 2011, 10:31:19 pm
Oooh that was so good. I think they have really put a lot of thought into this last season  :thumbsup:

Yes, good episode.  Our solution to the BBC/ITV ratings battle, was me watching Spooks via live iplayer on the laptop, and mrs ao  - Downton Abbey on the TV.   :)
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Post by: border-rider on 22 September, 2011, 10:26:53 pm
Just watched it. Fantastic  :thumbsup:

Good, intelligent, exciting BBC drama.
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Post by: jogler on 23 September, 2011, 07:44:40 am
It was peredictable IMO.You could see that the head of MI5 had been bonking Mrs.head of KGB & intruder with gun was Harry's AngloRusso lovechild who will inherit the earth,bring about world peace & lead all earthlings threatened with global extiction from a hoooooge meteorite off to  colonise another planet where they will be threatened by the Mysterons who will be defeated by Captain Colourblind in collaboration with Fireball XL5,Torchy The battery Boy & Thunderbird 5.
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Post by: Riggers on 23 September, 2011, 05:05:52 pm
I'm of a similar mind to yours Joggers.


Ahhh… Torchy the battery boy. That takes me back.
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Post by: jogler on 23 September, 2011, 07:41:27 pm
I'm of a similar mind to yours Joggers.


Ahhh… Torchy the battery boy. That takes me back.

then you have problems Riggers ;D
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Post by: border-rider on 25 September, 2011, 10:02:06 pm
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Post by: jogler on 25 September, 2011, 10:10:43 pm
Great minds think alike :thumbsup:
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 25 September, 2011, 10:30:29 pm
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:o Surely not? That would be awful awful awful.

Meanwhile,
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:'(
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Post by: border-rider on 25 September, 2011, 10:34:58 pm
The new woman who plays the new Ros was on some awful celeb cookery programme this morning and gave away that

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 >:(
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Post by: Karla on 25 September, 2011, 10:48:17 pm
I'm of a similar mind to yours Joggers.

Ahhh… Torchy the battery boy. That takes me back.
He missed his vocation as a spy, he should have joined an indie band.

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I like your thinking!  Yes, that makes sense.
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Post by: border-rider on 25 September, 2011, 10:51:31 pm
Dunno; could be too obvious. It might be a diversion...
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 25 September, 2011, 10:52:44 pm
Well, Harry did
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so maybe, but I really hope not.
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Post by: Karla on 25 September, 2011, 10:56:51 pm
They want to
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 25 September, 2011, 11:00:02 pm
But it would be too awful.
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Post by: border-rider on 25 September, 2011, 11:03:04 pm
well

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Post by: jogler on 25 September, 2011, 11:10:51 pm
Ruth is a woman scorned. :demon:
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Post by: Karla on 25 September, 2011, 11:16:57 pm
But it would be too awful.
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Post by: andyoxon on 25 September, 2011, 11:26:28 pm
Gripping episode.  :thumbsup:  I hadn't thought of
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- that would be a shocker.
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Post by: gordon taylor on 26 September, 2011, 06:00:51 am
Drat. Missed it and also forgot to record.
Anyone know if it is repeated anytime soon?

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Post by: tonyh on 26 September, 2011, 06:36:52 am
If you've got the right security clearance, BBC1 11.05 tonight.
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Post by: Frere on 26 September, 2011, 06:18:38 pm
If you've got the right security clearance, BBC1 11.05 tonight.

Developed Vetting?  :P

Frere
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Post by: Tigerrr on 28 September, 2011, 05:48:24 pm
I like spooks but I am tired of the way the woman with the spiky eyelashes is always lit from underneath. It is as if she is carrying a torch around and shining it up at herself all the time which would certainly interfere with saviung the nation every week. Certainly not a good move on a stakeout anyway.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 28 September, 2011, 07:44:21 pm
Well, Harry did
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so maybe, but I really hope not.
I misremembered.
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It occurred to me today that perhaps
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Post by: Karla on 02 October, 2011, 04:18:06 pm
It occurred to me today that perhaps
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That would certainly be a way to permanently kill Spooks.  However I don't think it's likely - the other option would be a better story because of the human factor IMO.  Anyway, I'm sure we'll find out more tonight.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 02 October, 2011, 10:17:18 pm
Aw, Dmitri.
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Post by: border-rider on 02 October, 2011, 10:21:55 pm
Aw, Dmitri.


well, I'm entirely straight, I think, and I probably would :)
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 02 October, 2011, 10:25:48 pm
One of my colleagues thinks
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Post by: Jaded on 02 October, 2011, 11:18:15 pm
FFS

What is the point of a thread full of
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Waste of time.
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2011, 08:17:56 am
Since the thread title does say 'spoilers likely' - it's a fair point Jaded, if a little dramatically put...  ;) O:-)

Not a bad recent episode. 
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Post by: Jaded on 03 October, 2011, 08:23:56 am
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Post by: Adrian on 03 October, 2011, 08:28:27 am
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I expected that to say
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 09 October, 2011, 10:42:25 pm
The new lot they've got in for this series could make their jobs a lot easier by going to spy school and learning how to do things secretly and out of sight.
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Post by: woollypigs on 09 October, 2011, 10:48:23 pm
Today's Spooks was recorded where the Thames Meander passed today, if only I knew that in the other order :) We could then have had a little roll play ...
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Post by: Jacomus on 11 October, 2011, 02:53:40 pm
The new lot they've got in for this series could make their jobs a lot easier by going to spy school and learning how to do things secretly and out of sight.

Yes indeed. Their tradecraft is somewhat lacking. The severe budget cuts that seem to have ravaged their training program have also removed any kind of backup from the team. Want to keep an eye on someone? Well, that will take 2 of your 5 person team. Need help in an emergency? Don't worry, one of your guys will get in his really expensive car and drive across London to help out. Good job that those Audi's have a built in sat nav as this is the same member of the brain trust who let free a deranged psycho, purely on the basis that he said something along the lines of 'I ain't done nuffink, honest guv'... a short while before sed psycho tried to kill a bunch of people.

Episode related mini-rant
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Post by: mattc on 11 October, 2011, 03:36:21 pm
that was a really top episode. The suicide bomber plot line (and all the 2ry aspects) were nothing new, but I think they realised that and just presented it all in a really understated* way that still provided some tension.

The russkies-yanks story arc was nicely advanced too.

*[I have no wish to see a guy's brains blown over his surroundings, thank you - I'd rent Rambo III for that!]
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Post by: RJ on 11 October, 2011, 09:42:42 pm
The new lot they've got in for this series could make their jobs a lot easier by going to spy school and learning how to do things secretly and out of sight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISzoUdtMSH4

 ;)
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Post by: her_welshness on 16 October, 2011, 09:12:10 pm
Oooh this is leading up to something good...
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Post by: border-rider on 16 October, 2011, 09:44:24 pm
It certainly is:

"Looks  like someone's put together a small private army"

Mrs MV: Liam Fox ? :)
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Post by: tonyh on 16 October, 2011, 10:13:02 pm

Trying to get eyeball on the tortoise....
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Post by: woollypigs on 17 October, 2011, 07:44:40 pm
Quote
Last episode moan.

Oh I forgot, they are NEVER stuck in traffic, where as the other program we are watching, Hidden, the main actor was stuck in traffic in the last episode.

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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 17 October, 2011, 07:48:52 pm
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Post by: her_welshness on 17 October, 2011, 09:04:19 pm
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Me too. My manager is not convinced.
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Post by: mattc on 18 October, 2011, 09:47:08 am
Maybe I've been consuming too much Le Carré*, but one thing is odd about Ruth's new job:

at no point did any character mention the possibility that she would act as a "mole" within Whitehall to help out her old brothers-in-arms.

Anyhoo, it's all hotting up nicely ...

*the follow-up to TTSS is now on Radio4Extra if anyone's interested ...
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Post by: her_welshness on 23 October, 2011, 09:01:58 pm
Ooh last episode on now. Hope its a good one.
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 09:09:40 pm
good so far

Had to rewind twice already to work out wtf is happening and we're only 7 minutes in :)
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 09:12:33 pm
I thought that the Borg Queen was a bit under-needed for this part, but now she's ace ;)
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Post by: her_welshness on 23 October, 2011, 09:35:35 pm
I thought that the Borg Queen was a bit under-needed for this part, but now she's ace ;)

I know! Shades of Le Carre tonight.
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 09:37:05 pm
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 09:51:36 pm
Orford Ness ?
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Post by: David Martin on 23 October, 2011, 09:52:05 pm
I say it is rather a good one this time.. Who lives and who dies?


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Post by: woollypigs on 23 October, 2011, 09:57:31 pm
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 10:01:02 pm
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Post by: her_welshness on 23 October, 2011, 10:01:37 pm
Shattering. But nice to see a reappearance of an old character.
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Post by: David Martin on 23 October, 2011, 10:04:23 pm
That's not quite back to series 1 is it? I thought the male lead there got blown up.
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Post by: border-rider on 23 October, 2011, 10:05:16 pm
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 23 October, 2011, 10:07:41 pm
Oh, god, that was harrowing. I'm in floods of tears. Harry Pearce, what a hero.
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Post by: woollypigs on 23 October, 2011, 10:14:25 pm
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Post by: andyoxon on 23 October, 2011, 11:22:19 pm
13 May 2002 - 23 October 2011; thank-you Spooks. That was a gripping finale, and the end of an excellent series.

Though I wouldn't bet too much on them not reappearing...
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Post by: woollypigs on 23 October, 2011, 11:25:12 pm
Yup top show there BBC. We were talking about a spin off.
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Post by: andyoxon on 23 October, 2011, 11:46:44 pm
From wiki re. TQ...

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Post by: tonyh on 24 October, 2011, 06:13:02 am
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Brilliant episode, have to try and watch again at 11.05 tonight. Probably won't turn out any different, though.
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Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 24 October, 2011, 07:50:08 am
From wiki re. TQ...

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Yeah, we knew that. The Home Secretary was on the phone to Harry when Harry was in the car, and he said something like "Harry, you said you've outsourced dealing with [that Russian bloke with the beard] to an outside agency so you'd better give me the details, on second thoughts, never mind." So that person was the outside agency.
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Post by: andyoxon on 24 October, 2011, 08:41:40 am
Ah, missed that...  :)
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Post by: RJ on 25 October, 2011, 12:23:21 am
Well, that was good (though I was disappointed that Erin's footwear wasn't worked into the plot - maybe she could've hurled one of those heels at someone ....).
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Post by: tonyh on 25 October, 2011, 06:49:47 am
Watched it again.

I reckon Shakespeare, Le Carre and Hardy would all have been quite pleased with writing that.

(Hamlet/Midsummer Night's Dream/Macbeth rewritten in Spooks style anyone?)

Edit: apparently I'm wrong about the excellent Mr Le Carre.
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 October, 2011, 01:03:57 pm
Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) reckons "Spooks" is absolute bobbins too, but the Official Secrets Act prevents me from telling anyone why ;)
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Post by: RJ on 26 October, 2011, 08:43:49 pm
Who Cares Who Wins anyway eh?  ;)
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Post by: Adrian on 30 October, 2011, 05:54:05 pm
Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) reckons "Spooks" is absolute bobbins too, but the Official Secrets Act prevents me from telling anyone why ;)
Prevents you, or should have prevented him telling you?