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Oscar's dad

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #25 on: 06 September, 2017, 03:59:40 pm »
Deary me, I must be lucky with my 'spoons experiences.  One has opened in Maldon within the last couple of years, the Rose & Crown, its great, we (me and a couple of other Mid-Essex yacfers) were there just the other weekend.

The 'spoons in Witham is OK as well.  We use it as the start and finish of some of the ACME winter series audaxes, the staff and regulars are quite welcoming to hoards of cyclists.

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #26 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:05:32 pm »
The second 'Spoons in Preston is the old TSB. It's unbelievably noisy in there. I don't object to the Wetherspoons formula, which is MacDonalds with beer. It's the joinery I can't abide.

They tend to be fitted out as Victorian pubs, with softwood mouldings, coloured and varnished to resemble hardwood. It takes but a few months for that to wear, and reveal the softwood beneath.

In Preston, there's a pub with a grade II listed interior of national importance. it's the real thing that a 'spoons is imitating. The Black Horse is quiet, with a clientele my age and a jukebox that plays mainly 70s music. The beer is a bit more expensive, and there's no food, but there are betting slips and little pens to fill them in with.

It serves proper beer, from a real brewery; Robinsons. I'd recommend anyone to drop in there if they are in the area. Both Wetherspoons in Preston, and the one in Leyland, are interchangeable.
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Oscar's dad

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #27 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:33:21 pm »
The Black Horse, Preston sounds brilliant, I love that sort of pub.

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #28 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:40:17 pm »
When I first went to Leominster 4 or 5 years ago, the potentially splendid 'Spoonies had just opened & it looked fantastic. However, as someone else noted above, once the veneer of newness had worn off it looked rather tired.
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #29 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:48:56 pm »
The Black Horse, Preston sounds brilliant, I love that sort of pub.

It's opposite a big shopping centre, and you get the occasional shopfitter in there. You can see them look round and cost up the interior. They soon realise that no-one this side of Lloyds of London will ever pay for them to work with those materials.

It reminds me of 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists'. Why sit in bodged surroundings, when the real thing is still around?

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #30 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:49:16 pm »
If I've been to half a dozen in my life I'd be surprised.  Probably never had more than two pints anyway as that tends to be my natural topping up point. 

When we saw the pro brexit rhetoric we decided not to bother visiting again - no real hardship as like I say, we've hardly ever stepped through the door anyway.

Oscar's dad

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #31 on: 06 September, 2017, 04:54:45 pm »
The Black Horse, Preston sounds brilliant, I love that sort of pub.

It's opposite a big shopping centre, and you get the occasional shopfitter in there. You can see them look round and cost up the interior. They soon realise that no-one this side of Lloyds of London will ever pay for them to work with those materials.

It reminds me of 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists'. Why sit in bodged surroundings, when the real thing is still around?

You need to come down to Mid-Essex and we'll take you to The Odd One Out in Colchester, I think you'd love it.

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #32 on: 06 September, 2017, 05:10:52 pm »
I lived directly opposite the Tower Arms in South Weald near Brentwood for six months in 1986/7. That's a nice exterior, but it's been buggered about with inside. Like so many rural pubs, it's been on a rollercoaster of gastropub development, and is currently shut, although it's in a great location. http://www.essexlive.news/tower-arms-in-south-weald-for-sale-for-650-000/story-30030890-detail/story.html

I went to university in Canterbury, and we used to go out to various country pubs. I visited East Kent recently, and lots had gone, or were shadows of themselves. They can't compete with the big chains. Preston's pubs are supported by a large student population.

ian

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #33 on: 06 September, 2017, 05:15:50 pm »
The one in Forest Hill is an old cinema. It's interesting inside, though I would have preferred the cinema. The one in South Croydon is an old theatre. I'd have... you get the idea.

Beer, I suppose, is cheap and the selection is better than the average and they're a step above those cooking-lager-and-packet-of-crisps pubs that leave you wishing someone would put them out of their misery (it's behind you, what? a supermarket beer aisle, that's what). I'm not sure I'd go to one on purpose, don't let my avocado-dodging ways fool you, nor the fact that I ate so many fish fingers as a child that I'm now a faintly orange colour like I spent the first sixteen years of my life marinating in Tizer, I'm a snob. I had some food there once or twice, it's the sort of uninspired mass-produced microwave, oven, and deep-fried crap that really only works if you're desperate for calories which I don't think the average Wetherspoons customer is. Thinking about calories, I think think they print the calorie counts for each menu item. Who the fuck wants a menu that tells you that? You're faced with a choice of industrially processed food and what little joy they've not managed to squeeze from it they further sully by telling you just how fat it'll make you. But hey, you could just order some soggy broccoli to go with your tears. I suppose on the plus side they probably don't feel the need tell me about their artisanal ingredients and serve me a burger on a slate (from Cornwall, terroir is so important).

Mind you, their success is a reminder of how crap many pubs got (and still often are). They weren't exactly raising the bar, so to speak. That said, the pubs here in the deep, dark jungles of Surrey are so shit*, I think a Wetherspoons would be welcome.

*Slight lie, there's a decent micropub now that gets in some good stuff on keg, and the landlord was serving some it so cheap I had to tell him to check he wasn't undercharging, everything else seems to be chav-a-geddon.

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #34 on: 06 September, 2017, 05:21:13 pm »
I went to university in Canterbury, and we sure to go out to various country pubs. I visited East Kent recently, and lots had gone, or were shadows of themselves. They can't compete with the big chains. Preston's pubs are supported by a large student population.

Do you remember the Red House in Tyler Hill? It was rebranded as the Tyler's Kiln a couple of years ago and given a hugely expensive makeover - running to several million, by all accounts. I assumed it must have been taken over by a chain but it I can't find any evidence of it being anything other than independently owned. It has no individual character at all, just a highly polished blandness that I find thoroughly disheartening.

And yet it gets rave reviews on TripAdvisor and is always packed, so clearly they are giving the punters what they want. Ho hum.

(ETA: just checked it on the Companies House website and it is indeed listed as privately owned. The owners appear to have a background in IT, which may explain the pub's slick yet vacuous website. Apparently, Wetherspoons has become a paradigm for aspiring young publicans.)
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #35 on: 06 September, 2017, 05:31:03 pm »
Just did a quick count probably heading for 50

When I lived in NW10 25 years ago I waited ages for one to open and it hadn't by the time I moved; I finally got to go to it a few weeks ago to find it's closed as has the one in Neasden!

I think not even being worthy of a spoons is a bit of an damning verdict for any town.

Former buildings now spoons I've visited include a church, cinema, opera house (in Tunbridge Wells although rumour has it that it was more of a Burlesque dive when it opened in Victorian times) railway station car showroom jail police station post office and a garage

I generally avoid all other pubs these days if possible as the main reason for going is food and I'd rather get a meal and a pint of beer for a fiver than a pint of beer....

hellymedic

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #36 on: 06 September, 2017, 05:49:10 pm »
Both Stanmore and North Finchley have lost their Spoon's. Maybe the locals aren't great beer drinkers.

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #37 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:11:19 pm »


I think not even being worthy of a spoons is a bit of an damning verdict for any town.



I won't use the one in this town because I want to support the other pubs. 

And I don't see the point of going out for a meal, then choosing a venue solely on the basis of cheapness.

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #38 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:18:22 pm »
I wouldn't choose a Wetherspoon's pub for a romantic tête-à-tête but it would be the right place for a few friends to eat, meet and drink without spending a fortune.
We've lost various local venues now.
AIUI they have been popular watering holes for those doing various Audax rides.

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #39 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:35:15 pm »
I went to university in Canterbury, and we sure to go out to various country pubs. I visited East Kent recently, and lots had gone, or were shadows of themselves. They can't compete with the big chains. Preston's pubs are supported by a large student population.

Do you remember the Red House in Tyler Hill? It was rebranded as the Tyler's Kiln a couple of years ago and given a hugely expensive makeover - running to several million, by all accounts. I assumed it must have been taken over by a chain but it I can't find any evidence of it being anything other than independently owned. It has no individual character at all, just a highly polished blandness that I find thoroughly disheartening.

And yet it gets rave reviews on TripAdvisor and is always packed, so clearly they are giving the punters what they want. Ho hum.

(ETA: just checked it on the Companies House website and it is indeed listed as privately owned. The owners appear to have a background in IT, which may explain the pub's slick yet vacuous website. Apparently, Wetherspoons has become a paradigm for aspiring young publicans.)

I remember it, from going in to UKC on the motorbike. We tended not to go down the Thornden Wood Road at night, after a few pints, with 6v Wipac lighting, for some reason. When I lived in Herne Bay we went to the Hampton, The Dolphin, the George IV and the Divers Arms.

On trips out on our Nortons, Triumphs and BSAs, we'd don our Barbours and Belstaffs and ride down the Thanet Way, to the Three Horseshoes at Staple Street, to sip Real Ale, and play Scrabble or Mastermind. It seems to have had a revival. It's probably now full of 60 year olds, doing exactly what we did when we were 20.
I was living in the past then, and now it's become the present.

http://www.threehorseshoesfaversham.co.uk

I could go back there tomorrow, but for the work I've taken on.

I'd go back to the Gate, at Boyden Gate as well.
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #40 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:50:04 pm »
AIUI they have been popular watering holes for those doing various Audax rides.
That's cos they're usually the cheapest place in town.
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hellymedic

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #41 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:52:40 pm »
AIUI they have been popular watering holes for those doing various Audax rides.
That's cos they're usually the cheapest place in town.

The ambience does usually surpass a garage forecourt or even a 24-hour Tesco, to be fair...

Martin

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #42 on: 06 September, 2017, 06:56:10 pm »


I think not even being worthy of a spoons is a bit of an damning verdict for any town.



I won't use the one in this town because I want to support the other pubs. 

And I don't see the point of going out for a meal, then choosing a venue solely on the basis of cheapness.

I don't choose spoons over restaurants of course they just offer good value for basic food they are never a proper meal out. In contrast food in most other pubs is extremely expensive and the portions are tiny (there seems to be a wish to leave the customer wanting a dessert)

Former premises I'd like to see spoonsified are a water tower petrol station lighthouse ferry and Homebase

ian

Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #43 on: 06 September, 2017, 07:08:53 pm »
I have to confess that there's something dispiriting about pubs that shout 'two meals for £5.99' at me. Oh, and 'we'll give some booze to go with it.'

That said, I've been enough 'gastropubs' where the burger comes up at the better part of £15 (it's just fucking meat sandwich) and it still comes out greyer and chewier than a week old corpse. A cow died for this. I hope it haunts your kitchen and leaves behind a lot of ectoplasmic manure. Reminds me, I've not ranted about kasha for a while.

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #44 on: 06 September, 2017, 07:13:17 pm »
I've just remembered that I've been to the one at the station in Aberystwyth a couple of times while waiting for trains.
I don't think I've ever been in one in an evening.  My experiences are usually of the all day drinking clientele.
Admission.  I'm actually not that fussed about cake.

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #45 on: 06 September, 2017, 07:26:48 pm »
The Weatherspoons in the centre of Southend is called "The Last Post". In another life, the building was a sorting office. It's huge. You can go in one end, walk all the way through, and come out in another road altogether.

I have been to the WS in Shoeburyness a couple of times this summer, when there has been a late morning tide on a Thursday. After a swim, my pal Mel and I have gone there for their ridiculously cheap curry. That one is nowhere near Tesco, but it is in the same complex as an enormous Asda which, if anything, is worse. ::-)
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #46 on: 06 September, 2017, 08:02:18 pm »
Jeez... 'Spoons are such forgettable places, how can you possibly remember them all?

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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #47 on: 06 September, 2017, 08:03:47 pm »
I used to pop in the Tunbridge Wells one on the regular in my Saturday days. It's one of the more historic/glamorous ones. The ones near me in SE London tend to be a bit more run of the mill - but always busy so clearly filling a need.

@Chris - I've been in enough of them to know that some of them stand out in terms of architecture or setting in a way that McDonald's or Starbucks outlets don't. They are also good at supporting local  breweries which adds variety. That said I wouldn't want them to be the only pub in (a) town.
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #48 on: 06 September, 2017, 08:09:42 pm »
A year or two ago Canardly and I found ourselves in Carlisle. There were two Weatherspoons very close to one another, one of which seemed to be shut. There were 4 ales on offer. I'm trying to remember what they were, but none was brewed within 300 miles of Carlisle. They were something like Youngs, Doom Bar, Greene King and something from Hampshire, possibly Ringwood.
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Re: What's your Wetherspoons number?
« Reply #49 on: 06 September, 2017, 08:15:37 pm »
They specialise in buying near to end date batches at a reduced rate.  They know they can turn it over at their prices.

Beer. That is.
Admission.  I'm actually not that fussed about cake.