Author Topic: Mille Pennines 3rd July 2020 (Read 198734 times)

How Far · « **Reply #975 on:** 24 August, 2017, 06:01:17 pm »

Quote from: Exit Stage Left on 24 August, 2017, 04:38:05 pm

Doing Wrynose first gives better views. The descent through Little Langdale is narrow and technical, so there's no opportunity to appreciate the landscape. Coming off Hardknott you get a view of the Roman fort. Dunmail Raise is also easier to do from the North.

Hardknott is easier heading west for sure, but Wynose is not ;-)

I guess it makes little difference as they are hard work either way

Rich...

Bianchi Boy · « **Reply #976 on:** 24 August, 2017, 08:36:58 pm »

Oh god I have promised myself I will not enter yet I keep reading all the posts about next year

BB

Andy Corless · « **Reply #977 on:** 11 September, 2017, 06:25:42 pm »

I've had a couple of queries over the weekend.

"When will next year's route instructions become available?"

The route-sheet and event info' will be available from the first week of April (not July - as was the case this year!).

"When will entries open/close?"

Entries are open now (and have been for a few weeks - first entry came in less than an hour after the event appeared in the calendar!). They'll close when we reach the limit of 120 riders or 2-weeks before the event - whichever comes soonest!

"Will the event run again in 2019?"

No - there'll be no MP1K in 2019!

Andy Corless
Organiser
Mille Pennines 1000

Kev Sp8 · « **Reply #978 on:** 12 September, 2017, 12:42:05 am »

Hi Andy, how many entries have you received to date? Just entered your NPS2A perm by the way, hoping for settled weather next friday!

Andy Corless · « **Reply #979 on:** 14 September, 2017, 06:08:30 pm »

"Hi Andy, how many entries have you received to date?"

38 including postal entries!

"Just entered your NPS2A perm by the way, hoping for settled weather next friday!"

Your card is in the post!

Andy Corless

Andy Corless · « **Reply #980 on:** 20 September, 2017, 04:15:59 pm »

Just to confirm after a couple of queries that the start time for next year's event is 11:00 am. Now upto 48 entries!

Andy Corless

Andy Corless · « **Reply #981 on:** 05 October, 2017, 06:28:49 pm »

I've had a few enquiries this last week or so from people asking me which is the toughest 1000: this or the Mille Cymru? My obvious answer is I've absolutely no idea. The Mille Pennines climbs an estimated 13000 metres whereas the Mille Cymru about 16000 metres from memory. This should make the Cymru the more difficult of the two however, the Cymru doesn't have the steep 30% climbs of the Lakes and north Yorks' Moors. One other factor to consider is that all the climbing in the Mille Pennines is in the middle 900 km section as the first and last 50km are more or less pancake flat, giving an average climbing rate of about 14.45 metres per km making the event just short of a grimpeur!

It'll be interesting to see if anybody actually rides both. I've noticed there are a couple of other non-grimpeur 1000s in next year's calendar.

Andy Corless

Kev Sp8 · « **Reply #982 on:** 05 October, 2017, 09:32:24 pm »

Entered. I WILL finish this time!

Tempted at a bash at Mille Pennines / Cymru double, but would be seriously tough sell to the missus!

Andy Corless · « **Reply #983 on:** 07 October, 2017, 03:34:03 pm »

"Entered. I WILL finish this time!"

I have your entry - they're coming in thick and fast now!

Andy Corless

Ajax Bay · « **Reply #984 on:** 07 October, 2017, 04:28:29 pm »

In addition to the "handlebar wrenching climbs" Andy mentions above, there are 3 tough tough climbing sections of the Mille Pennines:
1) Crossing the Lakes west-east (east-west in 2018) to the M6 at the end of Day 1: about 1300m of climb in 65km
2) The section (first thing Day 2) from Hawes to above Crawleyside (Stanhope): about 1500m in 70km
3) On Day 3 going across the North Yorkshire Moors to Robin Hood's Bay and back - one section of 80km has 1750m of climb.
In 2018 (as in 2016) the Newcastleton-Lockerbie leg (normally after 12 hours in the sadlle on Day 2) offers 670m of climb in 45km
Many of the descents do not offer efficient use of the the potential energy gained during the uphills.

Ajax Bay · « **Reply #985 on:** 09 October, 2017, 03:33:05 pm »

I have redrafted the route based on Andy's amended text in the Audax UK calendar entry http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-62/
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995
1013km + 12586m
The changes (from my post in August) is to Day3/4
Note that:
1) From Ambleside the 2018 route goes west across Wrynose and Hardknott Passes to Seascale.
2) Keswick selected as a control as opposed to Whinlatter Pass (which is nevertheless climbed - @179km) - Siskins Cafe at Whinlatter closes at 5pm (even the fastest will not make that).
3) Uses Sedbergh as a control all 3 'nights'.
4) From Sedbergh heads NE for Stanhope (either late Day 1 or morning of Day 2), past the Howgills/Wild Boar Fell via Kirkby Stephen, Brough and Middleton (ie not via Hawes). There is 1400m of climb in the first 80km: which compares with 1600m of climb in 70km in 2016 (Askrigg to above Crawleyside/Stanhope) and similar in 2017 (Hawes to above Crawleyside/Stanhope).
5) Resurrects the high road all the way across to Lockerbie (control) from Langholm (as 2016 route)
6) Adopts the shorter non-A road route WSW from Helmsley on mainly minor roads (Wass, Coxwold, Hutton Sessay) route to Ripon. The longer but 'mainer' A170/A61 route through Thirsk was the 2017 routesheet option.
7) For the last few hours dash: Lune valley: same as 2017: Sedbergh/Kirkby Lonsdale/Lancaster/Bispham (79km).

Andy Corless · « **Reply #986 on:** 19 October, 2017, 06:34:53 pm »

That looks more or less right to me. The provisional route actually comes out at 1007 km. The distance should be confirmed by mid-December. The main-road (A61 - via Thirsk) option between Helmsley & Ripon adds about 1 km and can still be taken.

Andy Corless

ramchip · « **Reply #987 on:** 11 November, 2017, 04:58:34 pm »

How many have entered so far? How many places are there?

Andy Corless · « **Reply #988 on:** 13 November, 2017, 06:08:12 pm »

"How many places are there"

About 30 places left, not including the volunteers that have been offered a free entry.

Andy Corless

Andy Corless · « **Reply #989 on:** 16 November, 2017, 05:34:32 pm »

I've had a couple of queries this last week asking when the brevet cards from this years event will be returned. The cards will be returned before Christmas, along with the commemorative water bottle & medal!

Andy Corless

Andy Corless · « **Reply #990 on:** 07 December, 2017, 06:30:27 pm »

For information purposes (no business interest), those planning for some accommodation the night before the event (Thu 05 July 2018), the Premier Inn in nearby Bispham currently have rooms priced at £32. https://millepenninesaudax.com/event-information/

Andy Corless

Ajax Bay · « **Reply #991 on:** 13 December, 2017, 04:14:09 pm »

In light of the information below, and if the (west) A6 bridge is still closed in Lancaster next July, note that there's an excellent cycle /ped bridge which I took northbound last July (John S and Paul tagging on to see if it worked). Need to go left at the bottom of the hill ($ Lune Industrial Estate, Damside Road) and very soon right onto shared path, under an arch of the old brick railway bridge (cycle path sign) and across the 'Millenium Bridge' over the River Lune. Right at the end of the bridge and up Lune Street (NCN6) to rejoin the A6 north at the traffic lights.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26601366

Quote from: paulworthington53 on 13 December, 2017, 12:53:14 pm

This came through on our work email - it may be relevant for several of our number...

New Road Layout in Lancaster
The road layout in Lancaster around the one-way system at the two bridges is going to be changing for a period of roughly 6 months beginning in January 2018. One of the bridges (northbound towards Morecambe) on the A6 is going to be closed, the southbound bridge into Lancaster will become two-way, with associated changes to the road layout around Our Lady’s Catholic College and the Kingsway road junction.
It will likely cause traffic chaos in the centre of Lancaster possibly resulting in long queues. The new Bay Gateway bypass will probably be a faster way to reach Morecambe and Heysham from Junction 34 on the M6.
A map of the changes is available at the link below:

https://www.lancashirecare.nhs.uk/media/Bulletin_New_Style/11%20December%202017/Route%20map%20for%202018.pdf

Andy Corless · « **Reply #992 on:** 15 December, 2017, 05:01:52 pm »

I'm aware of the road closure, I'll be checking the route again over Christmas.

Andy Corless

Andy Corless · « **Reply #993 on:** 05 January, 2018, 04:17:31 pm »

Just a quick update regarding the route. I've rechecked some of the route over the Christmas period and everything seems OK. In all probability this year's route will be re-routed to avoid Lancaster, with the first control at Caton rather than Arnside. The AUK event calendar page will soon be updated to reflect the changes, but all the event information and route-sheet should be ready as planned around the last week of March!

Andy Corless
Organiser

al-c · « **Reply #994 on:** 05 January, 2018, 05:27:59 pm »

Hi Andy,

Did the brevet cards and other bits get sent before Christmas? Just asking as I've not received anything.

Cheers
Allan

How Far · « **Reply #995 on:** 06 January, 2018, 08:44:09 am »

I got mile along with a bottle etc.

Thanks Andy

Ajax Bay · « **Reply #996 on:** 06 January, 2018, 11:56:10 pm »

Quote from: Andy Corless on 05 January, 2018, 04:17:31 pm

In all probability this year's route will be re-routed to avoid Lancaster, with the first control at Caton rather than Arnside.

And maybe avoid Lancaster on the way back too, leaving the A683 at Caton and heading through Quernmore to Cockerham, effectively retracing the route out? The distance is almost identical.
Andy has amended the Audax UK entry to show Caton as the first control (vice Arnside).
I have revised the RidewithGPS route I offered above, to have Caton (Arnside pasty shop will be missed) as the first control. There are a variety of route choices from Caton to Milnthorpe - I have selected the one I think best (but have not ridden all the roads). Joins the A6 at the start of its 1km of dual carriageway. I have left the final morning route going through Lancaster (but see above).
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24491995

Andy Corless · « **Reply #997 on:** 08 January, 2018, 05:10:40 pm »

"Did the brevet cards and other bits get sent before Christmas? Just asking as I've not received anything"

Most of last year's brevet cards and water-bottles etc have now been returned to successful riders. There's about 10 or so outstanding so if you haven't had yours yet I'd assume you're one of them. They're still in the process of being returned (in no particular order) so should arrive in the next 7-10 days.

Andy Corless

al-c · « **Reply #998 on:** 08 January, 2018, 09:07:01 pm »

OK thanks

Andy Corless · « **Reply #999 on:** 11 January, 2018, 06:36:43 pm »

If your brevet card, medal & water-bottle hasn't turned up within a week let me know.

Andy Corless