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Title: Which mattress?
Post by: Canardly on 01 April, 2016, 11:38:30 pm
Many years ago we bought a Hypnos bed. The mattress of this is now a bit worse for wear (as in knackered, I am beginning to feel like a miner) and requires relatively urgent replacement but.....  I know you get what you pay for, however, the current similar replacement cost is just a tad eye watering and thats just for the mattress. We will probably keep the base as it is very well made.

Does the panel have other favoured brands/models that we should be looking at. We stayed in a cottage in Devon a couple of years ago which had a fabulous bed but like a numpty I didn't note the make/model, so I know  that they do exist.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 02 April, 2016, 01:27:49 am
I think mattresses are like saddles; you might not get on with something I love.
We bought an own-brand sprung double mattress from John Lewis after lying on a wide range on display.

It is topped with memory foam and sprung more firmly on 'his' side than 'hers' (though we weigh much the same - his preference). We've been happy.

Some people find memory foam too hot.

Try before you buy but two minutes, clothed in a shop doesn't really equate to hours in bed. I found the JL staff very knowledgeable and helpful.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: epa611 on 02 April, 2016, 01:36:43 pm
We've found lkea mattresses very comfortable
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Kim on 02 April, 2016, 01:46:25 pm
We've found lkea mattresses very comfortable

Those tend to fit Ikea-shaped beds, though.  Which are mostly unobtanium in the UK unless you buy from Ikea.

(I came at this from the other angle - specifically wanting a euro-sized bed in order to maximise width while still fitting the room.  Divans (ie. all of Ikea's offerings) were impractical, and most of the alternatives are horrible leather man-beds  :sick:.  So I molished my own frame out of wood.  Euro-size mattresses are somewhat easier to come by than the beds, as thanks to Ikea there's a market for replacement mattresses.  I ended up blindly buying one online with as much memory foam as possible, which luck would have it seems to work well for barakta and her dodgy skeleton.)
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Morat on 02 April, 2016, 03:01:38 pm
When my wife was pregnant I was informed that we were buying a new mattress THIS WEEKEND.

Having no knowledge of the subject or time to research, I was dragged into Dreams during what must have been the only weekend that they didn't have a sale. However, the 2400 pockect spring, memory foam topped mattress has been an utter delight. I nearly sent us both bankrupt by lying on a similar model with a 6" thick Kashmir topper, but sense prevailed.

I'd recommend going into a big mattress shop and lying on lots of beds. Take a deep breath before looking at the prices.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: velosam on 02 April, 2016, 03:21:42 pm
When my wife was pregnant I was informed that we were buying a new mattress THIS WEEKEND.

Having no knowledge of the subject or time to research, I was dragged into Dreams during what must have been the only weekend that they didn't have a sale. However, the 2400 pockect spring, memory foam topped mattress has been an utter delight. I nearly sent us both bankrupt by lying on a similar model with a 6" thick Kashmir topper, but sense prevailed.

I'd recommend going into a big mattress shop and lying on lots of beds. Take a deep breath before looking at the prices.

What he said - and you get what you pay for - so although its a lot, over say 10 years, a daily charge isn't too bad.

I have a separate mattress topper on mine, just for more comfort (from John Lewis) and could almost be a thin mattress.

Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: paulatic on 02 April, 2016, 07:34:24 pm
After 25 yrs on a futon we have been sleeping on one of these for 5 months now.
http://www.ergoflex.co.uk/?gclid=CIHKzaTL8MsCFcsp0wodu2YP_A
Bloody love it! Heat therapy every night and no end of aches and pains have gone.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 02 April, 2016, 07:53:08 pm
25 years on a futon? You must have been well'ard!

I tolerated a few weeks when Young and in Love some three decades ago but was much happier on conventional matress even then.

A Soft Princess
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: rafletcher on 02 April, 2016, 08:09:51 pm
Sorry, but Hypnos are just great.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Kim on 02 April, 2016, 08:45:52 pm
I tolerated a few weeks when Young and in Love some three decades ago but was much happier on conventional matress even then.

Barakta and I spent a year on an airbed (well, a succession of airbeds; fairy issues) under similar circumstances, and my shoulders have never been quite the same since.  Hers weren't the same to start with, of course.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: epa611 on 02 April, 2016, 10:43:09 pm
IKEA now do UK sized beds and mattresses as well as with sizes
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Ham on 02 April, 2016, 10:48:56 pm
Tempur.

Spendy but so, so, so comfortable. Added benefit of not bouncing at all.

Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Woofage on 03 April, 2016, 10:20:33 am
Sorry, but Hypnos are just great.

^ this. When ours gets replaced, it will be by another Hypnos. Spendy I know, but worth it for years of comfortable sleep.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jaded on 03 April, 2016, 11:34:30 pm
These seem to be beds only.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 April, 2016, 08:43:30 pm
Memory foam is appallingly hot.  If I could afford it, I would get rid of mine tomorrow.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 April, 2016, 09:26:58 pm
Memory foam is appallingly hot.  If I could afford it, I would get rid of mine tomorrow.

This.  Every time I stay in Scandiwegia I am reminded of this.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 04 April, 2016, 10:13:03 pm
Whereas we are not (usually) too hot on our memory foam topped mattress.
We have not used our Deep Midwinter 13.5 Tog Siberian goose down duvet in the winter just past thobut. (We have used it on the memory foam mattress in previous winters.)
David suffers the cold more than I do.

People vary.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 04 April, 2016, 10:32:36 pm
It is an issue.
I've spent the past 22 years sleeping (and not sleeping) on a s/h cotton wadding futon base.
Well 'ard, I am. That's me.
A change is overdue.
A couple of years ago I went to John Lewis and test drove a few mattresses.
I came away with a grater from the kitchen department.
It is a very good grater, and I have since bought another to give as a gift to my close friend, Julie, in Whitstable.
The issue remains unresolved.

ETA
Does anyone know of a mattress whisperer?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 04 April, 2016, 11:01:32 pm
Have you stayed on any comfortable mattresses away from home?
Maybe something like your host's mattress would be the answer.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 04 April, 2016, 11:08:45 pm
Have you stayed on any comfortable mattresses away from home?
Maybe something like your host's mattress would be the answer.
Tricky one, Helly.
Most occasions when I stay away, it is usually for celebratory reasons of one sort or another.
Assessing and recording the bedware in those situations,mostly disappears into the mists of ambibed incohol....
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jon on 04 April, 2016, 11:25:08 pm
I saw an advert on the train the other day for some all singing all dancing mattress, that's delivered and if you don't like it they'll collect it. Think company was called Eve. This is totally not a recommendation as no first hand experience!
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: jsabine on 05 April, 2016, 12:48:53 am
I saw one o' those ads too - www.evemattress.co.uk - seems to have a layer of memory foam, then other stuff (different sorts of foam I suspect) underneath.

100 day home trial (full refund if not satisfied, yadda yadda), their very biggest mattress is under a grand, and a UK King size is £629.

We are very much in the market for a new mattress (and realistically, a new bed as well, as we'd quite like one that's bigger than a double) - but I just get confused by all the choice and give up. I'm quite aware too that what feels comfortable after 10 minutes probably won't be after six or eight hours.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 10 April, 2016, 05:44:53 pm
I have Eve. Is amazing and every bit as good as my friends mattress wot she spent £2k on.


I got one for my brother but he preffered jumping up and down on a sprung mattress so his was returned for a full refund after a month.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 10 April, 2016, 07:23:02 pm
I have Eve. Is amazing and every bit as good as my friends mattress wot she spent £2k on.


I got one for my brother but he preffered jumping up and down on a sprung mattress so his was returned for a full refund after a month.
Gonna look into this.
I've slept / stayed awake on mem foam before - too hot for me.
But I'm prepared to give this a go.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 10 April, 2016, 08:47:14 pm
Eve is mainly several different types of memory foam with a latex top IIRC. So you get the best of both worlds. I tend to overheat too but haven't done so with this mattresss.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: perpetual dan on 10 April, 2016, 09:33:51 pm
Mrs Dan and I spent a pleasant couple of hours trying out mattresses yesterday in Warren Evans. We were tempted by a Tempur mattress, but the price difference felt a bit too much, though we did splash out on some Tempur pillows. The most expensive "firm" sprung one we tried was far too bouncy. It was also in the shop window, so we made a display of ourselves getting on and off and seeing how much the other one bounced as we did so  ;D

My advice: find a local shop with a wide selection and try some out. Take a book, take your time, especially with the foam ones, as you tend to settle into them.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 11 April, 2016, 10:37:42 am
Eve is mainly several different types of memory foam with a latex top IIRC. So you get the best of both worlds. I tend to overheat too but haven't done so with this mattresss.
Just ordered one.....
Roll on Saturday.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: billplumtree on 11 April, 2016, 12:54:48 pm
Just ordered one.....
Roll on Saturday.

Then bounce on Sunday, toss and turn on Monday, and so on for the test month?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 11 April, 2016, 03:11:11 pm
I believe the test period is almost 3 months with a no hassle return
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: tonyh on 11 April, 2016, 09:59:44 pm
Just to mention a different kind of approach: we've been very pleased with the £150 job which they happened to have (in the right size for our wooden base) here:

http://www.airsprungfactoryshop.co.uk/about_us

(no financial interest; no doubt other such places exist.)
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 18 April, 2016, 09:25:42 pm
Tonight, for the third night inna row, I'm looking forward to going to bed.
The returns box went into the recycling bin yesterday.
I don't see me needing it.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 19 April, 2016, 01:01:51 am
Good init.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 19 April, 2016, 07:42:59 pm
Good init.
Yep.
I cannot fault it.
Now that it has gassed off.
Also, as an online shopping experience, they have their $h!t together.
And it is ver' slick & seamless.
Other vendors could learn from this.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 21 April, 2016, 03:13:19 am
I just noticed they have a referral scheme that gives you both £50 off just incase anyone else is interested!

http://friends.evemattress.co.uk/f9brV
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 April, 2016, 09:19:33 am
We need a new mattress and bed base so we tried loads.  We have gone for an eye wateringly expensive Hypnos mattress of the sort that the Queen uses (I am given to understand).  Yes it was very expensive but should last a long time so works out at a few pence per night and what price a good nights sleep?  It should be delivered soon.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 17 February, 2021, 07:07:06 pm
Thread resurrection!

After 26 years on a Vi Spring "Regal Supreme" regular double (aka expensive way back and frankly totally unaffordable now) mattress, am unsurprisingly in desperate need of a replacement - the pockets and springs are not only bust and sagging, some are totally bottoming out, where one soon imagines falling through into a deep dark world that is probably very scary - like those dreams one can have all too easily.

I wonder if any of the original thread posters who mentioned and bought into the https://www.evesleep.co.uk/ have any advice, some 5 years on?

PAGING Jurek and Valiant?

Is pocket sprung still the bees knees? I still have it in mind/imagination, that all that air and space and cotton and wool wadding structure is still kinda right on and cool?

Cyclist aged 67, not as fit as one was natch, legs still fine but shoulders and neck like to ache and wake me up etc etc

Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: rafletcher on 17 February, 2021, 07:20:02 pm
Have a look at Hypnos for a an excellent and more affordable option. We’re fortunate in living near the factory so, although they don’t sell direct, there was the full range available for testing.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 17 February, 2021, 07:43:13 pm
Eve.
Every night.
Thx.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 17 February, 2021, 08:49:39 pm
I think mattresses are like saddles; you might not get on with something I love.
We bought an own-brand sprung double mattress from John Lewis after lying on a wide range on display.
It is topped with memory foam and sprung more firmly on 'his' side than 'hers' (though we weigh much the same - his preference). We've been happy.
Some people find memory foam too hot.
Try before you buy but two minutes, clothed in a shop doesn't really equate to hours in bed. I found the JL staff very knowledgeable and helpful.

D started complaining of back pain in 2019 and blamed the mattress, as he had a decade previously, stating it was worn, for which I could see no evidence. We went back to John Lewis in January last year and tried many models. I had said I wasn't going to spend £Lots on anything unless I felt it was more comfortable than its predecessor. As I am unable to turn over in bed I am quite fussy about pressure problems. They didn't have much memory foam on offer.
We settled on a JL own brand (Swaledale, I think) pocket spring mattress, which has wool padding on the 'winter' side and cotton padding on the 'summer' side. Again, it is 'firm' on his side and 'medium' on mine. It needed to be made to order and arrived on February 19 last year.

D did not stop complaining of back pain immediately...

I have been comfortable. JL reduced the price by about £350 a few weeks after I placed my order...
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Valiant on 17 February, 2021, 09:23:40 pm
My Eve has been replaced with a Leesa hybrid as I got myself a bigger bed. I had no complaints about the Eve, it was super comfy but the Leesa Hybrid is so much more suitable for me atm. It's the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: FifeingEejit on 17 February, 2021, 10:01:09 pm
Whereas we are not (usually) too hot on our memory foam topped mattress.
We have not used our Deep Midwinter 13.5 Tog Siberian goose down duvet in the winter just past thobut. (We have used it on the memory foam mattress in previous winters.)
David suffers the cold more than I do.

People vary.

Have you considered the Scandinavian duvet system?
I was converted to it a while back and find it rather handy that I can lob the 4.5 Tog duvet on top of the 10 when it gets a bit chilly and not have to have the bloody annoying whine of the boiler going in the middle of the night, the idea is that you can tailor the warmth needed to suit the two occupants while not going Victorian with the bed and if there's only 1 occupant duvets can be shuffled to suit.

As for mattress, I just go for a medium-hard cheap Silentnight thing, does well enough for me and nowhere near as uncomfortable as the futon that's slowly crippling me while I wait for Bensons to build my bed.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 17 February, 2021, 10:57:32 pm
I looked at combination duvets but didn't get.
Have 13.5 Tog 'Winter' goose down duvet.
Have 10.5 Tog 'spring/autumn' goose down duvet.
Have 4.5 Tog 'summer' goose down duvet. (This is actually pretty warm if you lie still!)

Have nocturnal astronomer partner who is VERY sensitive to cold and stays up/out far later than is wise.

Memory foam mattresses should not be used with hot water bottles but this isn't an issue with our latest mattress. D has had the 'Winniebottle1' on a few nights recently.

1)  Hot water bottle with Winnie-the-Pooh case. Named Scarborough Bear by me, as purchased in Scarborough one November weekend, when AUK Reunion was in a FREEZING hotel.

Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: fruitcake on 21 February, 2021, 08:37:20 pm
Experience with mattresses to date has been that a hybrid construction of memory foam over (half depth) spring unit is the more comfortable. Lots of the mid-priced mattresses I've seen recently are constructed this way; a layer of memory foam on a layer of springs. I guess the foam offers support, while the spring unit allows circulation (since it is mostly air). That design is not as breathable as a traditional mattress (i.e. with a full depth spring unit) but the support is good.

I top the mattress with a cellular blanket made of wool. The cotton sheet goes on top of that. The wool cellular blanket stops the bed getting uncomfortably hot, and I'd recommend this to those who don't get on with memory foam.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: toontra on 21 February, 2021, 08:49:40 pm
After 30+ years on a futon I got a Rem-Fit hybrid mattress (memory foam + springs) last year - luxury  ;D  It's still on the firm side but that's what I wanted.  I reckon the futon is at least part of the reason I've never had any back issues, so wanted to avoid anything too soft.

Just ordered a bamboo protector (which also apparently acts as a cooling layer) in readiness for warmer weather.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 21 February, 2021, 09:03:14 pm
I'd also had ~30 years on a rock-hard futon.
The Eve mattress which replaced it in 2016 is an utter delight.
Five years of unbridled ZzZZzzzzzzz........
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 February, 2021, 09:16:13 pm
I’m thinking of an Eve - what are they like in hot weather?

Being of a certain age, past mattresses could be turned, both top / bottom and end to end.

The current hybrid mattress has to be one way up, but at least it can be turned end to end.

Am I right that the Eve has different regions on it, so that only one end can be the head, and thus it isn’t intended to be turned at all, in any dimension? And does it matter?

 
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Polar Bear on 21 February, 2021, 09:22:44 pm
We bought a very spendy Harrison Spinks for our euro king-size last year.  We had to wait a few months due to covid and we got it in December.

I have to turn it one week then flip it the next for six months whilst it settles in.  It is a hefty thing and I imagine many owners would quickly tire of doing so.

It is supremely comfortable.  Given how much time we humans spend in bed it's worth the spend in our opinion.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 21 February, 2021, 09:26:57 pm
I’m thinking of an Eve - what are they like in hot weather?

Being of a certain age, past mattresses could be turned, both top / bottom and end to end.

The current hybrid mattress has to be one way up, but at least it can be turned end to end.

Am I right that the Eve has different regions on it, so that only one end can be the head, and thus it isn’t intended to be turned at all, in any dimension? And does it matter?

Eve doesn't get as toasty as other memory foam mattresses.
I've tried both.
Eve is way cooler.
I'm pretty sure that you can rotate an Eve around a clock face.
I'm not sure that it is necessary.
The good news is that you get 90 days to give it back if you don't like it.

ETA - you might want to give it 24 hrs to de-gas in a ventilated room after it has been delivered/unwrapped, before you use it.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 February, 2021, 10:13:04 pm
Cheers J.

I was wrong about the unidirectional thing - I see they do recommend you give it a 180 every 30 days for a year, then 6 monthly thereafter.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 21 February, 2021, 10:21:36 pm
Cheers J.

I was wrong about the unidirectional thing - I see they do recommend you give it a 180 every 30 days for a year, then 6 monthly thereafter.
I've ignored all of that.
The mattress still works.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: toontra on 21 February, 2021, 10:37:25 pm
Cheers J.

I was wrong about the unidirectional thing - I see they do recommend you give it a 180 every 30 days for a year, then 6 monthly thereafter.
I've ignored all of that.
The mattress still works.

Yes - but does it work as well as if you'd rotated it  ;D
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 21 February, 2021, 11:25:20 pm
We couldn't turn our previous JL mattress and still have it correctly oriented. It still worked.
We can turn our current JL mattress but only twice per year with the seasons. It still works.

Ideally, mattresses should be turned frequently through all four possible orientations. I suppose they my get lumpier in places if not turned, or not last quite so long.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Robh on 21 February, 2021, 11:41:24 pm
We couldn't turn our previous JL mattress and still have it correctly oriented. It still worked.
We can turn our current JL mattress but only twice per year with the seasons. It still works.

Ideally, mattresses should be turned frequently through all four possible orientations. I suppose they my get lumpier in places if not turned, or not last quite so long.
We spent a *lot* of money on a John Lewis mattress a couple of years ago. Can't recall brand/model but I will say this: comfy it may be, but it is an absolute bugger to lift when you're changing the sheets. I think we may have changed the orientation just once - we have moved house after all. But this is a real monster when you're changing the bedding: not something I had considered beforehand, but definitely something I would take into consideration when buying in the future.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 22 February, 2021, 12:06:55 am
I think the website does give a weight for their mattresses.
I read 53kg for ours IIRC.

I leave turning to D + cleaner.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Hot Flatus on 22 February, 2021, 07:57:24 am
Hypnos.  You can't beat them.  But they aren't cheap.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 22 February, 2021, 11:48:26 am
Eve doesn't get as toasty as other memory foam mattresses.
I've tried both.
Eve is way cooler.

Is your Eve mattress the 'Original', or the more spendy 'Premium' and 'Premium Hybrid'?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 22 February, 2021, 11:57:06 am
Eve doesn't get as toasty as other memory foam mattresses.
I've tried both.
Eve is way cooler.

Is your Eve mattress the 'Original', or the more spendy 'Premium' and 'Premium Hybrid'?
I'm pretty sure that when I bought mine there wasn't an option.
However, I've just dug out my order confirmation, and it doesn't give a type, just the size.
It was £699.00 for a king size in 2016 - so you may be able guess it from that.

ETA: Having looked at their website mine is the original memory foam jobbie.
Not the hybrid or premium hybrid.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 22 February, 2021, 12:32:50 pm
 :thumbsup: Many thanks Jurek, much appreciated
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 23 February, 2021, 04:32:50 pm
Just placed an order for a double EVE Original mattress. The 100 day no like, return, free collection + refund was too tempting (they state they will collect from one's bedroom)

Plus also got a further £50 discount from:

https://www.whatmattress.uk/mattress-reviews/eve-mattress-review/?affcoups_coupon=968

So that's £439. The punt has been taken - we shall see

Thanks everyone for their inputs - any decision making is an increasingly painful struggle in slopeworld these days :-\

ps to replace the original Vi-Spring Regal Supreme mattress would cost circa £3150 :o

Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 23 February, 2021, 04:36:58 pm
Just placed an order for a double EVE Original mattress. The 100 day no like, return, free collection + refund was too tempting (they state they will collect from one's bedroom)

Plus also got a further £50 discount from:

https://www.whatmattress.uk/mattress-reviews/eve-mattress-review/?affcoups_coupon=968

So that's £439. The punt has been taken - we shall see

Thanks everyone for their inputs - any decision making is an increasingly painful struggle in slopeworld these days :-\

ps to replace the original Vi-Spring Regal Supreme mattress would cost circa £3150 :o
Sounds like you've done well  :thumbsup:
ETA:  I'll be interested to know how you get on.
I knew after my first night's sleep - but then, I'd been sleeping on a second-hand, rock-hard futon base for the best part of 25 years.  ::-)
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 23 February, 2021, 08:15:28 pm
any decision making is an increasingly painful struggle in slopeworld these days :-\

My plan is to dither until the 30% offer expires. Then to have to start again with the completely different set of options I will then have. Probably start a new thread on it too: “what width of bed?” is a strong possibility.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 26 February, 2021, 03:52:54 pm
The Eve Original foamy standard double mattress arrived yesterday and was lugged up the monsterously slippery when wet rough faced, uneven Welsh stone steps. Excitedly unboxed, unwrapped and watched in awe as it unfurled and grew into a 25cm deep double jobbie. The full expansion took about 4 hours all told.

I was so prepared to NOT like it - being a right on 'Mr Natural' cotton/hemp/wool/pocket springy organic type of dude, in my mind's eye.

But going on one night's sleep, two of my fears have been alleviated - it doesn't feel at all hot, as has sometimes been suggested these things might, and I couldn't detect any smell (also reports of vague chemical whiffs for a day or two), probably cos I lost most of my normally acute sense of smell in June 2019 ::-)

Most importantly, it was supremely comfortable and supportive, like a dream come true? Not too hard (which was another was thing I was catatrophising about) and not too soft. It's mounted on the original 1995 Vi-Spring sprung divan base, which seems almost as new. Basically it "rocks" with banish the doubt pleasure. Early days for sure though, we shall see?

It's very likely a keeper and made me realise just how buggered and possibly damaging to me, the 26 year old Vi-Spring had become. As mentioned previously, the replacement mattress for it is now £3150! - I remember when it was first purchased, the question was asked how long does a thing this spendy last - the dapper besuited trustworthy grey haired salesman, who'd worked all his life in Newbury's finest department store, suggested 10 years, that was in 1995.

The Eve Original double has cost £439 (with a discount code I found online) - if it gives pleasure and comfort for 5 years I'll be cock-a-hoop.

And thank you Jurek and Valiant :thumbsup:

https://www.evesleep.co.uk/products/the-original-foam-mattress?variant=32503028514867
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 26 February, 2021, 04:51:35 pm
The Eve Original foamy standard double mattress arrived yesterday and was lugged up the monsterously slippery when wet rough faced, uneven Welsh stone steps. Excitedly unboxed, unwrapped and watched in awe as it unfurled and grew into a 25cm deep double jobbie. The full expansion took about 4 hours all told.

I was so prepared to NOT like it - being a right on 'Mr Natural' cotton/hemp/wool/pocket springy organic type of dude, in my mind's eye.

But going on one night's sleep, two of my fears have been alleviated - it doesn't feel at all hot, as has sometimes been suggested these things might, and I couldn't detect any smell (also reports of vague chemical whiffs for a day or two), probably cos I lost most of my normally acute sense of smell in June 2019 ::-)

Most importantly, it was supremely comfortable and supportive, like a dream come true? Not too hard (which was another was thing I was catatrophising about) and not too soft. It's mounted on the original 1995 Vi-Spring sprung divan base, which seems almost as new. Basically it "rocks" with banish the doubt pleasure. Early days for sure though, we shall see?

It's very likely a keeper and made me realise just how buggered and possibly damaging to me, the 26 year old Vi-Spring had become. As mentioned previously, the replacement mattress for it is now £3150! - I remember when it was first purchased, the question was asked how long does a thing this spendy last - the dapper besuited trustworthy grey haired salesman, who'd worked all his life in Newbury's finest department store, suggested 10 years, that was in 1995.

The Eve Original double has cost £439 (with a discount code I found online) - if it gives pleasure and comfort for 5 years I'll be cock-a-hoop.

And thank you Jurek and Valiant :thumbsup:

https://www.evesleep.co.uk/products/the-original-foam-mattress?variant=32503028514867
'S good. Innit?
My conversion was pretty much instantaneous.
Nighty-night.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: velosam on 03 March, 2021, 11:45:02 am
I just noticed they have a referral scheme that gives you both £50 off just incase anyone else is interested!

http://friends.evemattress.co.uk/f9brV

I need to buy 3 mattresses for a friend, can I get 3 referrals and £50 off each?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 04 March, 2021, 04:13:42 pm
I just noticed they have a referral scheme that gives you both £50 off just incase anyone else is interested!

http://friends.evemattress.co.uk/f9brV

I need to buy 3 mattresses for a friend, can I get 3 referrals and £50 off each?

The Eve Original I just bought came with a friend referral email link. The friend then clicks through to get a "£100 off your first order".
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: rogerzilla on 04 March, 2021, 05:35:37 pm
Mine is memory foam and I hate it because it's so hot.  It's 8 years old next year so I'm going to use that as an excuse to replace it, even though the 8 year thing is marketing BS.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 04 March, 2021, 06:21:56 pm
Mine is memory foam and I hate it because it's so hot.  It's 8 years old next year so I'm going to use that as an excuse to replace it, even though the 8 year thing is marketing BS.

I've always considered myself a "hot" sleeper :hand:

But as mentioned by Jurek and Valiant, this particular mattress doesn't plague us with this issue. Maybe 8 years is a long time ago with regard foaming "technology"?

And I am a dyed in the wool sceptic about these kinda things.

Perhaps RogerZ, I could persuade you to buy another of my bicycles please - the unridden 1980 custom updated Dawes Super Galaxy, this time - you and SO might like to spend the night and try the mattress out whilst it's still newish?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: slope on 02 June, 2021, 05:46:15 pm
It's near the end of my 100 days money back trial sleeping on an Eve 'original' double mattress. Just £439 with discounts back in February.

No way is it going back for a refund. It's positively surpassed all expectations

Thanks again Jurek and Valiant for the reccomendation  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Jurek on 02 June, 2021, 05:56:44 pm
Sounds like a result  :)
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Polar Bear on 02 June, 2021, 06:23:40 pm
We bought a very spendy Harrison Spinks for our euro king-size last year.  We had to wait a few months due to covid and we got it in December.

I have to turn it one week then flip it the next for six months whilst it settles in.  It is a hefty thing and I imagine many owners would quickly tire of doing so.

It is supremely comfortable.  Given how much time we humans spend in bed it's worth the spend in our opinion.

The six month flip / rotate period is over and now.  The mattress has a winter and a summer side so flip twice yearly but also advises to rotate at least once between flips.  Think that I'll rotate monthly just to spread the compression over time.

It is a supremely comfy mattress and we sleep so well on it.  What price a good kip?
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 02 June, 2021, 08:30:39 pm
I've not yet turned my hefty, spendy John Lewis Windermere onto its summer side yet. As there's a 'his' & 'hers' side and I can only use the right-hand side of the bed, it only gets turned twice per year. I'm comfortable. I think D might have had lass left shoulder gyp if he'd chosen a softer tension but he reckons his back needs firm.
Will turn next week.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Arellcat on 05 March, 2022, 11:01:48 am
I'm due to replace my 90x200cm (Euro size) IKEA latex mattress that was really a bit too thin at the best of times but it's also completely worn out now, and it's hurting my shoulders, hips and thighs.  Some nights it's like sleeping on a camping air mat that has inexplicably half-deflated during the night.

The big problem is, I'm really struggling to find (m)any mattresses that are 200cm or longer.  Many of you know I'm quite tall.  My IKEA mattress sits on a custom 215cm rigid (unslatted) base that was made for me many years ago when I had a matching, quite firm, foam mattress.  The space beyond the foot of the IKEA mattress is filled with a cardboard box that just happens to be the right size.  ::-)

Sometimes I sleep stretched out on my back, which means my feet hang off the end of every hotel bed I've ever slept in.  The rest of the time I sleep somewhat curled up on one side or the other, so I can happily get away with an ordinary 190cm mattress.  Thing is, I sleep in all three orientations, multiple times a night.  I don't need anything beyond a standard single mattress, and I haven't the space for some fancy King size bed just to get the length.

I've been to all the bed places near me, and they all offer paltry trial periods like 40 days, 60 days, no refunds, only credits.  And frankly they all feel like used car salesmen in there.

I quite liked the IKEA HÖVÅG medium-firm mattress but just when I finally resolved to buy one (yesterday) they told me they aren't doing the Euro size anymore, and were due to end the whole range in a couple of months' time.  I liked the feel of a Slumberland Rollo Hybrid Duo that I found in Bensons, but it's only 190cm.

What's a gal to do?  Eve don't do a Euro or longer single, nor do Simba, Emma, Nectar, Hypnos, John Lewis, Ergoflex or any others.  For what it's worth I found the Simba way too firm, while John Lewis had one or two pocket sprung mattresses I loved but the price was simply too high.  JL consistently tops my customer service scoreboard though.  Archers allegedly has a Sareer, of whom I've never heard, "gel-lex" mattress in 200cm, and I'm wary of too much memory foam topping because it makes it hard to turn over in bed.  I thought that pocket springs with a decent top layer would be the way to go.

Any ideas, folks?

Ironically, the best night's sleep I ever had was at the Abode hotel in Manchester, and I pulled off all the sheets to find out what mattress it was.  It turned out to be a Vispring bed.  I note that they have a tantalising "extra wide & long" category.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 05 March, 2022, 03:30:27 pm
I googled <200cm 90cm mattress> & had quite a few local hits...
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 06 March, 2022, 08:41:13 am
I've just been round this one but for a Euro King size. (200x160)

We've got one coming on Tuesday from an outfit called https://www.mattressnextday.co.uk/ who have a table that allows you to select all manner of strange sizes.

 They price matched and (so far) seem remarkably efficient.

My telephone interaction suggests that if you can't find what you want on their website they'd be helpful on the phone.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: hellymedic on 06 March, 2022, 02:40:09 pm
John Lewis to 'bespoke' mattress sizes to order.

If you found something you really liked and could wait...
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: toontra on 06 March, 2022, 05:03:16 pm
I have a euro king size (200x160) slatted frame bought from Ikea a long time ago.  It was tricky getting a replacement mattress to fit.  In the end got a REM-Fit hybrid 400 (available in many sizes).  Very pleased.  It's on the hard side which suits me well.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: Kim on 06 March, 2022, 05:40:06 pm
I have a euro king size (200x160) slatted frame bought from Ikea a long time ago.  It was tricky getting a replacement mattress to fit.  In the end got a REM-Fit hybrid 400 (available in many sizes).  Very pleased.  It's on the hard side which suits me well.

That looks good.  I molished us a euro king bed frame because the extra 10cm of elbow room makes all the difference.  Our current memory foam on foam mattress (which is only about 3 years old) doesn't seem to be aging well[1].


[1] For reasons that aren't entirely clear, there's a pronounced dip in it on barakta's side, in spite of me being heavier.  I think she sleeps on her side more than I do.
Title: Re: Which mattress?
Post by: barakta on 07 March, 2022, 12:32:44 am
[1] For reasons that aren't entirely clear, there's a pronounced dip in it on barakta's side, in spite of me being heavier.  I think she sleeps on her side more than I do.

I'm just made of depleted uranium or something else heavy... Small and heavy.