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General Category => On The Road => Topic started by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 11:52:47 am

Title: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 11:52:47 am
is it just me or do some riders have a deathwish? big unwieldy black box on their back and they still insist on riding down one way streets the wrong wayl also RLJ'ing with no lights (at night)

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: TigaSefi on 23 March, 2017, 11:56:38 am
You're not alone. I report dark stealthy deliveroo riders to their twitter account every time I see one with time and location. This should ensure they get a bollocking one hopes.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 12:03:24 pm
we saw a young girl doing runs from Pizza Express last week, she said they weren't covered by the firm's insurance unless they had lights / hiviz / h*****t (which she did)

and she only got £1 a delivery within a certain radius
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 March, 2017, 12:06:21 pm
I thought that since a new court ruling, all riders were on salary?
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 12:39:00 pm
I do Deliveroo part time ....

in Cambridge, it's £4 per drop (few are on an hourly rate, and I prefer the £4 per delivery).... (plus 'rare' tips) .... The delivery radius is 3 miles from the city centre but most of my drops are within 1-2 km from the restaurant

delivery time from when I have collected the food varies between 6 minutes and 11 minutes depending on distance and traffic. I average 3-4 drops per hour, all dependedant on how long you have to wait for the food from the restaurant (most times, it's ready when you get there)

I bought a cheap Specialized RockHopper for deliveroo, and it's brilliant.

how it works, is that you have an ap on your phone.... when you are ready for work, you log in, and when a job is available for you, you get a message. At this stage, you don't know where to collect or drop off, all you have is an order number

Once that you accept the order, you are told where to collect, and there is a button that you click that links to Google Maps with turn by turn instreuctions

Once collected, you tap the collected button, and it then gives you the address where it has to be delivered with a link to Google Maps

the box is actually very comfortable and within the box, there is a smaller bag for hot foods .... it's a big box/rucksack that can fit pizzas, but most of my deliveries have been chinese take aways ... if you have a back rack on your bike, and don't want the rucksack, they will install a box on the rack

the jacket is brilliant, plus you are given tee shirts, etc etc plus an Anker portable battery charger for your iphone and a bike phone holder for your handlebars ... The kit costs £150 but they deduct the money gradually from your pay .... if ever you decide to leave, you get a full refund when you hand the kit back

one thing that I have noticed though is that cabs/taxis don't seem to like deliveroo riders, and pass very close (a lot closer than when I commute to my other jobs without the bag)

a brilliant part time job for some extra beer money .... I'm saving my money to buy a 1970's/80's Colnago or similar

I know a Polish lad who does it full time, and he earns close to £100 per day/7 days a week

you can work whenever you want and are not forced to do hours/shifts... you can work 1 hour or several .... you are not insured by Deliveroo, and you have to supply and maintain your own bike .... you also have to sort out your own tax/insurance

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: TigaSefi on 23 March, 2017, 12:48:02 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 12:51:01 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?

lights is your own choice .... I do have bright lights, but don't really need them for Deliveroo as I ony do Deliveroo during the day
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: TigaSefi on 23 March, 2017, 12:52:26 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?

lights is your own choice .... I do have bright lights, but don't really need them for Deliveroo as I ony do Deliveroo during the day

So really I should wind the window down and politely inform the night riders to get themselves seen instead...
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Jasmine on 23 March, 2017, 01:04:04 pm
I'm less convinced it is associated with Deliveroo specifically.  I work in Cardiff for about half my work time, and the other half in rural North Wales.  I reckon about 50% of all cyclists in Cardiff don't have lights.  I think they get away with it because they don't actually need them to see by (and drivers can see them too) because they never go anywhere that doesn't have street lights.  I'd never dream of riding at night without lights, because experience from home tells me that when it is dark, it's actually dark.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Kim on 23 March, 2017, 01:21:04 pm
Deliveroo bicycle riders appeared in Birmingham relatively recently (they've mostly used mopeds).  They're notable because they have those silly boxes on their backs (which surely fail to keep pizzas in the correct orientation when used on a road bike), and because they ride like idiots on the road, while the average Birmingham cyclist is far more likely to be found riding like an idiot on the pavement.

They don't seem any more unlit than usual, though.  I've certainly seen some with proper lights.

I'm sure any dispensation towards particularly poor behaviour is due to the cognitive biases inherent in them being a group with big recognisable boxes on their backs.  A bit like the Addison Lee effect.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 March, 2017, 01:22:00 pm
Deliveroo riders wear all-round reflective jackets, similar to the Pro-Viz jackets, and the box is reflective too. The black boxes are Pizza Express, Dominos or various local enterprises.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 01:25:48 pm
Deliveroo riders wear all-round reflective jackets, similar to the Pro-Viz jackets, and the box is reflective too. The black boxes are Pizza Express, Dominos or various local enterprises.

the one I saw last night was a deliveroo box, green sides, with a completely black back (as was the rider)
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Andrij on 23 March, 2017, 01:31:46 pm
That lot, and UberEats.  98% percent of them are a menace.  RLJ, wrong way, on the pavement, no lights, not bothering to look, etc.  They put me in the same heightened state as seeing an AddisonLee vehicle.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 March, 2017, 01:45:49 pm
Deliveroo riders wear all-round reflective jackets, similar to the Pro-Viz jackets, and the box is reflective too. The black boxes are Pizza Express, Dominos or various local enterprises.

the one I saw last night was a deliveroo box, green sides, with a completely black back (as was the rider)
Interesting local variation. They did have black backs here (Bristol) some time ago but they've been reflective silver – and it's really bright reflective and lots of it, shows up far better than any bike lights – for quite some time. I wonder if they're rolling out the reflective kit as and when each branch needs new stuff, or if they've got some selection process?
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: arabella on 23 March, 2017, 01:47:58 pm
I still have a hazy recollection that if the lights are less than (istr) 30 yards apart then you don't need your lights.
(Not that icba to turn them on/off thobut).
Or have I been dreaming all this time?

(thanks for description dim, illuminating (pun 1/2 intended))
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: DrMekon on 23 March, 2017, 01:49:25 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?

Come on, be excellent and all that. Dim gave us an interesting reply.

@dim - Sounds like you are making it work for you. Whenever I've asked students in Leeds, they seem very negative about the pay.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: TigaSefi on 23 March, 2017, 01:52:46 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?

Come on, be excellent and all that. Dim gave us an interesting reply.

@dim - Sounds like you are making it work for you. Whenever I've asked students in Leeds, they seem very negative about the pay.

I know how the business side work. I just get frustrated as a fellow cyclist in London seeing them swan all over place as if they were ninjas.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Kim on 23 March, 2017, 01:59:14 pm
Ninja swans...
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Jakob W on 23 March, 2017, 02:02:00 pm
They'll break your arm in a stealthy flash...
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Andrij on 23 March, 2017, 02:03:59 pm
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Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: sg37409 on 23 March, 2017, 02:16:18 pm
... I just get frustrated as a fellow cyclist in London seeing them swan all over place as if they were ninjas.

 ::-)  I didn't get that from your posts at all.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 23 March, 2017, 02:51:53 pm
The ones in York are a bit dozy. Whether that is exhaustion or not I dunno. I was sat behind one waiting for lights to change last friday. He looked back at me. I gestured in front of him at the lights and said "The lights have changed". He looked confused.
A car got tired of waiting and pulled round us both.
I waved at the lights and said it again.
He looked more confused and took his headphones out of his ears, looked at me and said "Ugh?" "The lights have changed" says I.
Two more cars pull round us.
"What?"
"THE LIGHTS HAVE CHANGED"
"Oh"
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 06:53:51 pm
Yes very nice blah blah blah. So why don't you all sort yourself out with some bright lights and all ?

Come on, be excellent and all that. Dim gave us an interesting reply.

@dim - Sounds like you are making it work for you. Whenever I've asked students in Leeds, they seem very negative about the pay.

perhaps they are on an hourly fixed rate (minimum wage) .... the £4 per drop is much better, especially if you are reasonably fit as you can average 3 drops per hour .... add a few pounds of tips, and it's much better than doing any other minimum paid job, especially if you are unemployed or do work that is seasonal (such as a gardener/landscaper etc) .... I'm semi-retired, and this suits perfectly .... a 30-40km ride in the hills early morning, then a shower and off to a 3hr job, and after that, a bit of deliveroo for a bit of extra cash.... come weekend, a long ride on saturday, and a long ride on sunday, but if the weather is kak, I can always do a bit of deliveroo

to be honest, I'm more afraid of being knocked down by another cyclist than a cab or a bus or a car .... Cambridge has thousands of international students who cycle and many of them have no idea about road safety

but if you want to see 'real bike couriers' watch these guys in New York ....many ride fixies, and are bonkers (they also work on a fee per drop):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBeuK0ovASM

listen to the cab driver from 17 minutes ... sounds like there's  a war going on






Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 07:54:34 pm
funny; Deliveroo seems to have replaced the Kamizaze bike messengers of the 80s (not sure if any real despatch riders still exist in these days of email and DocuSign)

riders apart; I can't see the attraction of the service; if I want a take away I'll ride to the place myself, or preferably pay a bit more for drinks and sit down to a hot meal in the restaurant rather than having it stone cold at home but ETHO
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: hellymedic on 23 March, 2017, 08:04:25 pm
None of my takeaways have been delivered by Deliveroo but I LIKE my takeaways delivered here.
I can sit in peace, free of predatory or emollient waiting staff, control my portion sizes and retain leftovers for future use without having to ask for a doggie bag.
I am disabled and we are car-free.
I get rather good Meals on Wheels...
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: ian on 23 March, 2017, 08:05:43 pm
It's all the same  – if you're paid by delivery then you'll do as many as possible (even on an hourly rate, I imagine it's competitive). You don't get paid to wait at lights or take the scenic route.

On the plus side, they're not driving skip lorries.

I don't do takeaways, but I'm always tempted to order one just to see the poor sod try and cycle up the hill, though I suspect they do it by car round here.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 08:10:33 pm
None of my takeaways have been delivered by Deliveroo but I LIKE my takeaways delivered here.
I can sit in peace, free of predatory or emollient waiting staff, control my portion sizes and retain leftovers for future use without having to ask for a doggie bag.
I am disabled and we are car-free.
I get rather good Meals on Wheels...

OK I can't personally see the attraction of the service over regular deliveries where the restaurant delivers it direct; fully appreciate why some folk are unwilling to go for sit down meals; but £13-ish is a lot to pay for a takeaway pizza, then pay Deliveroo on top (unless you pay less than the sit down rate)

predatory staff? none of that in Pizza Express you've more chance of getting served in spoons!
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: hellymedic on 23 March, 2017, 08:18:35 pm
None of my takeaways have been delivered by Deliveroo but I LIKE my takeaways delivered here.
I can sit in peace, free of predatory or emollient waiting staff, control my portion sizes and retain leftovers for future use without having to ask for a doggie bag.
I am disabled and we are car-free.
I get rather good Meals on Wheels...

OK I can't personally see the attraction of the service over regular deliveries where the restaurant delivers it direct; fully appreciate why some folk are unwilling to go for sit down meals; but £13-ish is a lot to pay for a takeaway pizza, then pay Deliveroo on top (unless you pay less than the sit down rate)

predatory staff? none of that in Pizza Express you've more chance of getting served in spoons!

I presume some places use Deliveroo so they don't need vehicles or delivery staff of  their own.

A local Chinese buffet place certainly had staff who would swoop on your plate within half a minute of putting down a fork, making a meal most   uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Martin on 23 March, 2017, 08:24:33 pm
well I think it's a whole new concept, turn any restaurant into a take-away at zero cost to the restaurant

I noticed at Wagamama recently that Deliveroos seemed to be taking up more of the kitchen's time than preparing meals for those sitting down in the place....

edit, it wasn't a problem at the time but I know some people use these places for fast sit down service
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 08:25:25 pm
funny; Deliveroo seems to have replaced the Kamizaze bike messengers of the 80s (not sure if any real despatch riders still exist in these days of email and DocuSign)

riders apart; I can't see the attraction of the service; if I want a take away I'll ride to the place myself, or preferably pay a bit more for drinks and sit down to a hot meal in the restaurant rather than having it stone cold at home but ETHO

the problem in a conjested city like Cambridge, is that if dont cycle and if you decide to drive your car to the city to get a take away, it can take you 30-40 minutes to travel 3 miles, plus you have to pay a high fee for parking .... then drive another 30 minutes home.... an order from deliveroo .... and you have your food still piping hot in rapid time (i.e. if I get the order to deliver)  ;D

Cambridge is seriously considering introducing Congestion charges to travel to the CBD (it's only a matter of time before this is introduced)
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Feanor on 23 March, 2017, 08:26:40 pm
None of my takeaways have been delivered by Deliveroo but I LIKE my takeaways delivered here.
I can sit in peace, free of predatory or emollient waiting staff, control my portion sizes and retain leftovers for future use without having to ask for a doggie bag.
I am disabled and we are car-free.
I get rather good Meals on Wheels...

OK I can't personally see the attraction of the service over regular deliveries where the restaurant delivers it direct; fully appreciate why some folk are unwilling to go for sit down meals; but £13-ish is a lot to pay for a takeaway pizza, then pay Deliveroo on top (unless you pay less than the sit down rate)

predatory staff? none of that in Pizza Express you've more chance of getting served in spoons!

I presume some places use Deliveroo so they don't need vehicles or delivery staff of  their own.

A local Chinese buffet place certainly had staff who would swoop on your plate within half a minute of putting down a fork, making a meal most   uncomfortable.

Using deliveroo is simply out-sourcing the delivery option as far as the restaurant is concerned.
Another thing they don't have to deal with.

And yes, all-u-can-eat buffets always do that.
It's not in their interests to make you feel at home and wander back up for more.

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 March, 2017, 08:28:41 pm
There are also what might be called the "internet aggregator" services which act as a portal to all sorts of takeaway food; they'll use Deliveroo or something similar. Most places using Deliveroo won't have their own delivery staff. Still plenty of pizza mopeds around though.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Feanor on 23 March, 2017, 08:31:41 pm
I should confess an interest: Junior is a deliverooist in Edinburgh.
( I did furnish him with decent lights, as well as the bike! )

I'd have done the same when I were a PSO back in the day.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 08:31:51 pm
well I think it's a whole new concept, turn any restaurant into a take-away at zero cost to the restaurant

I noticed at Wagamama recently that Deliveroos seemed to be taking up more of the kitchen's time than preparing meals for those sitting down in the place....

I read an article recently where a woman complained about poor service in a restaurant .... she was waiting a long time for her food and the restaurant was empty.... the waitress said that the kitchen was extremely busy, and deliveroo staff were popping in to get the take aways, and she was being ignored

I also read an article from a restaurant owner who refused to sign up to deliveroo because he stated that deliveroo fees is 30% of the price of the order .... I'm not sure if this is true, and merely quoting what he wrote
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: hellymedic on 23 March, 2017, 08:34:09 pm
None of my takeaways have been delivered by Deliveroo but I LIKE my takeaways delivered here.
I can sit in peace, free of predatory or emollient waiting staff, control my portion sizes and retain leftovers for future use without having to ask for a doggie bag.
I am disabled and we are car-free.
I get rather good Meals on Wheels...

OK I can't personally see the attraction of the service over regular deliveries where the restaurant delivers it direct; fully appreciate why some folk are unwilling to go for sit down meals; but £13-ish is a lot to pay for a takeaway pizza, then pay Deliveroo on top (unless you pay less than the sit down rate)

predatory staff? none of that in Pizza Express you've more chance of getting served in spoons!

I presume some places use Deliveroo so they don't need vehicles or delivery staff of  their own.

A local Chinese buffet place certainly had staff who would swoop on your plate within half a minute of putting down a fork, making a meal most   uncomfortable.

Using deliveroo is simply out-sourcing the delivery option as far as the restaurant is concerned.
Another thing they don't have to deal with.

And yes, all-u-can-eat buffets always do that.
It's not in their interests to make you feel at home and wander back up for more.

Which is why I have stopped going to them...
...which is not in their interest either.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: ian on 23 March, 2017, 08:37:24 pm
A chap I know who owns and run an Indian restaurant recently switched to Deliveroo. It's less hassle in principle but they have some issues with the food turning up upside down, which is even less great if it's curry. They have to seal it all up pretty tight to avoid a big mess apparently. It's not cheap, but he said he could get far more orders out than the couple of drivers they used to have.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Feanor on 23 March, 2017, 08:41:13 pm
Not sure I agree.

It gives small local restaurants a longer arm that they would otherwise have.
Yes, there is a cost to them.
But it's a variable cost, according to the value of the orders going out via that channel; versus the fixed cost of having their own delivery drivers, which would be prohibitively un-economical for a small place who don't really specialise in delivery.
It provides a new channel for their business, but at a percentage cost to them.

I still enjoy visiting actual restaurants, and have never had a deliveroo myself!

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 23 March, 2017, 08:48:58 pm
Not sure I agree.

It gives small local restaurants a longer arm that they would otherwise have.
Yes, there is a cost to them.
But it's a variable cost, according to the value of the orders going out via that channel; versus the fixed cost of having their own delivery drivers, which would be prohibitively un-economical for a small place who don't really specialise in delivery.
It provides a new channel for their business, but at a percentage cost to them.

I still enjoy visiting actual restaurants, and have never had a deliveroo myself!

the majority of my deliveries in Cambridge has been to students, especially Asian students at colleges/universities... I don't do night deliveries (yet), which might be to homes close to the CBD

guys in London say that they deliver lots of food to companies during the day .... you sit in your office ....it's  too far to walk to get a meal of your choice .... so order through deliveroo... order 1/2 an hour before your lunch time and you should get it when it's your official lunch time

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Kim on 23 March, 2017, 08:53:22 pm
Friend of mine appreciates Deliveroo for enabling takeaway service on a couple of establishments that otherwise wouldn't bother.  They're happy to pay a hefty premium for $restrictive_diet compatible food.

Hardly seems worth it for a pizza or traditional BRITISH curry.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: ian on 23 March, 2017, 10:02:53 pm
Well, we stopped with takeaway because all we seemed to get delivered was boxes and cartons of lukewarm disappointment (we used to have a good curry place, the chap mentioned upthread) but around here it's the usual. Frankly, it's no better than a supermarket curry these days if I'm feeling that lazy. As for pizza, threads passim.

If we lived somewhere exciting maybe, but I think the denizens of Surrey actually like their disappointment lukewarm. At least it encourages me to either go out to an actual restaurant or cook.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: closetleftie on 26 March, 2017, 07:55:30 am
Isn't this the same reason why WVM and/or taxis seem to drive worse than other motorists? Getting somewhere fast to make poor pay less poor?
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 March, 2017, 08:42:41 pm
I have seen an all black Deliveroo box since my last post in this thread; but it was on a scooter. It was more like a normal motorcycle top box with a Deliveroo logo than anything else. I've also noticed scooters with what look like the standard reflective with green sides Deliveroo box (definitely a food box, different shape and so on, not a top box) with riders dressed in Deliveroo jackets.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 April, 2017, 06:01:33 pm
Whatever the bad sides may be of Deliveroo, they do put some colour into cities. Today I saw a Deliveroo rider dressed in a military jacket (redcoat, Sergeat Pepper style) over a Welsh dragon t-shirt with stars and stripes trousers. The left leg was stripes, the right leg was stars. Probably worth a bit in tips!
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Kim on 01 April, 2017, 07:37:38 pm
Normal for Stokes Croft...
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 01 April, 2017, 07:42:22 pm
He was on Quay Street actually, where the Deliveroo riders hang out in front of Roll for the Soul. (http://www.rollforthesoul.org) A bit too colourful and clean for Stokes Croft!
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 April, 2017, 06:56:11 pm
Going way ot here, but through one of those rips in the space-time continuum (aka coincidence) here's an article about a woman who draws people she sees passing Roll for the Soul: https://www.bristol247.com/culture/art/drawing-passers-by/
And this guy
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSS1c4LgPnb/
is Stokes Croft style. That is, he does hang out at The Canteen on Stokes Croft. I know him; his son is friends with mine and he used to be our postman!

Back on the original topic, Deliveroo riders and road safety, I think the single biggest thing the firm could do for its riders safety would be to buy each of them a mount to put their phones on their handlebars. At the moment you see them riding along, fishing their phones out their pockets to follow the directions to the drop address.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 03 April, 2017, 07:56:31 pm
Going way ot here, but through one of those rips in the space-time continuum (aka coincidence) here's an article about a woman who draws people she sees passing Roll for the Soul: https://www.bristol247.com/culture/art/drawing-passers-by/
And this guy
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSS1c4LgPnb/
is Stokes Croft style. That is, he does hang out at The Canteen on Stokes Croft. I know him; his son is friends with mine and he used to be our postman!

Back on the original topic, Deliveroo riders and road safety, I think the single biggest thing the firm could do for its riders safety would be to buy each of them a mount to put their phones on their handlebars. At the moment you see them riding along, fishing their phones out their pockets to follow the directions to the drop address.

you are given a mount for your phone, but many don't use it .... they have their phones in their pockets with an earphone plugged into their ear and listen to the voice commands of google maps

mine is on my handlebars as I like to see the map at the same time, but I do have an earphone in one ear so as to hear the prompts/directions

when you sign up, you go on a ride with an experienced Deliveroo rider who checks the way that you ride and checks if you are road savvy/safe  .... he writes a report before you are given the job .... you also have to watch videos on road safety etc and have to complete a questionarre .....

sadly, some deliveroo riders do skip red traffic lights and take chances etc but thats not the way that they were taught .... one bruised cut knee and they soon learn to respect traffic and road laws ...

it's like when you go for your car driver lesson .... you obey the rules, but many drive like dicks when there is no instructor sitting next to them and when they get their driver's licence  ;)
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 April, 2017, 08:06:55 pm
Thanks for the inside info! Some though are definitely choosing to use neither ear piece nor bar mount. I can't quite imagine why they do this, but they definitely do.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: dim on 03 April, 2017, 09:38:48 pm
Thanks for the inside info! Some though are definitely choosing to use neither ear piece nor bar mount. I can't quite imagine why they do this, but they definitely do.

those are the experienced riders who know the area, and who know the restaurants  .....

you get a message on your phone .....accept, then it tells you where to collect (examle):  collect from Nando's in Regent street .....  you know where the restaurant is ....so ou don't need directions ....

when you collect the food and tell the app that it's been collected , it then tells you the address to deliver .... guys not using the google maps doing deliveries are like taxi drivers.... they know where to go without the aid of a satnav

I need satvav ..... I get lost in my village and I've been living here for 4 years  :-[
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Gattopardo on 03 April, 2017, 10:44:05 pm
Like death wish pizza scooters and cycle despatch riders.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 April, 2017, 09:32:12 am
That doesn't quite tally with what I see, though, which is (some) riders checking their phones every junction or so. Which may or may not be an improvement on the pre-electronic era of A-Z in the hand... (probably neither better nor worse just different).
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Kim on 04 April, 2017, 01:14:26 pm
Maybe they don't want to leave the phone on the bike when they can't take the bike all the way to the door?

Maybe they know their way around, but need to check the phone to find out what number / end of the street they're looking for?  That wouldn't be every junction, though.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 April, 2017, 10:52:57 am
I saw a courier at the weekend who'd modified the Deliveroo logo on his box, which is basically a V sign anyway, with the words Eat the Rich.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 14 August, 2018, 03:35:38 pm
This Deliveroo Uber Eats rider's taken to the motorway...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-45183556

[Edit: I clearly can't read; it's Uber Eats, not Deliveroo. :facepalm:]
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: giropaul on 15 August, 2018, 11:35:14 am
I’m currently in Leuven. I’v Never seen so many Deliveroo etc riders. It’s like watching the sketchiest Belgian kermesse. None wear helmets ( neither do 99% of locals apart from pro-rider lookalikes).

Whilst it seems chaotic, I don’t think there can be many incidents, if at all. My opinion is that it’s because drivers here are very Cycle aware, and respect cyclists. I’m still learning that bikes pretty well ALWAYS have right of way.

Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: TigaSefi on 25 August, 2018, 07:06:09 pm
6 months later, I have been given the option to work for Deliveroo on my bike! Alas I am training as an Emergency Ambulance crew instead now....
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: bobb on 14 April, 2019, 08:49:46 pm
I'm thinking of signing up to Deliveroo. I've not got much on work wise for a while, so figured I might as well get paid for riding my bike. Haven't decided yet. No doubt as soon as I sign up a massive project will start and I'll not have time... Perhaps a good reason to sign up in the first place!
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Carlosfandango on 15 April, 2019, 10:48:19 pm
Good idea bobb, it's flat in Chelmsford and it's a pretty compact City, so your deliveries should be relatively short. The university accomodation is near to the take aways as well.

I think Chelmsford and Cambridge are the most popular localish towns for deliveroo riders.

I signed up in Colchester, but I've been too lazy to start, the hills, the weather and my old age have put me off.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: jiberjaber on 16 April, 2019, 09:51:56 am
There's a couple of guys on Strava covering Chelmsford looks like they are doing around 80 km over an 8 hour day.  Robinsons Chip Shop on Moulsham seems a very popular user of them - almost always 3 BSO leaning outside awaiting orders.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: quixoticgeek on 16 April, 2019, 10:05:47 am
There's a couple of guys on Strava covering Chelmsford looks like they are doing around 80 km over an 8 hour day.  Robinsons Chip Shop on Moulsham seems a very popular user of them - almost always 3 BSO leaning outside awaiting orders.

I find it really interesting the contrast in bikes used by Deliveroo/justeat/uber eats/Thuisbezorged riders in .NL and .UK.

In .UK outside the McDonalds of Canterbury there is a hodgepodge of BSO's, mountain bikes, road bikes, and maybe the odd fixie. But here in .NL, most of the bikes are branded Thuisbezorged or Deliveroo, usually a big hulking city bike, increasingly a number of E-assist bikes. They are all designed to have a box fitted front and rear, with simple but effective locking.

It did make me wonder, for those relying on a bike to feed themselves and keep a roof over their head, surely you'd pick a steed for it's reliability? and ease of maintenance...

J
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: jiberjaber on 16 April, 2019, 10:23:54 am
Here's one example:

https://www.strava.com/activities/2284850700
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 April, 2019, 10:40:10 am
It did make me wonder, for those relying on a bike to feed themselves and keep a roof over their head, surely you'd pick a steed for it's reliability? and ease of maintenance...

J
I get the impression it's not so much people relying on a bike to feed themselves etc but people who happen to have a bike using it to supplement their income for a limited time (albeit supplement might be the vast majority of it and limited might be a couple of years, but that's not generally the intention at the start). This would go for Deliveroo, messengering, couriering, pedal, motor, van... in UK. The very existence of branded bikes in Netherlands suggests it's rather different there and at a wild guess the difference would be employment models rather than Deliveroo's business operations.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Paul H on 16 April, 2019, 01:59:38 pm
I'm thinking of signing up to Deliveroo. I've not got much on work wise for a while, so figured I might as well get paid for riding my bike. Haven't decided yet. No doubt as soon as I sign up a massive project will start and I'll not have time... Perhaps a good reason to sign up in the first place!
The other Deliveroo thread might be worth a read
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=108636.0

You might also consider Stuart (Who deliver for Just Eat) if they operate in your area, in Derby I earn on average £1.20 an hour more with them than Deliveroo, though there's less freedom.  I do both and they've been my primary source of income for six months and I did some part time before that.  I'm also signed up with Uber Eats, though don't often log in, locally the distances are greater and the fees don't reflect that, I know that's not the case in all areas.
If you sign up for any of them, do it via a referral which will benefit both parties.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Paul H on 16 April, 2019, 02:10:35 pm
It did make me wonder, for those relying on a bike to feed themselves and keep a roof over their head, surely you'd pick a steed for it's reliability? and ease of maintenance...

J
Number one consideration is not to get it nicked and not to use something you'd cry over if it was.  My perfect bike is a Rohloff Airnimal, easy step over, tough, low maintenance, fun... after a couple of weeks paranoia leaving it locked outside shopping centres and dodgy flats I bought a £160 ex demo Evans hybrid from Ebay.  Changed the wheels and a few other parts for some I had gathering dust which probably tripled it's value, it's a risk level I'm happier with. 
Deliveroo in London are offering branded Ebikes for hire or lease:
https://roocommunity.com/pay-as-you-ride-electric-bike-rental-scheme/
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: bobb on 16 April, 2019, 05:24:31 pm
I'm thinking of signing up to Deliveroo. I've not got much on work wise for a while, so figured I might as well get paid for riding my bike. Haven't decided yet. No doubt as soon as I sign up a massive project will start and I'll not have time... Perhaps a good reason to sign up in the first place!
The other Deliveroo thread might be worth a read
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=108636.0

Ta, just read through that. I'm not sure I can be arsed now  :P
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: bludger on 26 April, 2019, 03:17:04 pm

It did make me wonder, for those relying on a bike to feed themselves and keep a roof over their head, surely you'd pick a steed for it's reliability? and ease of maintenance...

J

Chromo fixed is still king in my book, you can get one new for £180 (Hackney Club).
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 April, 2019, 06:50:37 pm

Chromo fixed is still king in my book, you can get one new for £180 (Hackney Club).

I really wish you hadn't told me about that...

J
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: Jakob W on 27 April, 2019, 07:01:22 pm
That's remarkably cheap, even if their website suggests it's Hi-Ten. It's presumably a bit of a boat anchor, but I'd imagine it would stand up well to being dinged around as a delivery bike.
Title: Re: Deliveroo
Post by: bludger on 29 April, 2019, 12:05:01 am
Plenty of people at my college have them. They're perfectly functional bikes. Only thing that puts me off really is the quill stem as that's a bunch of tools I don't have.

Yeah I meant 'hi ten' (like mine! I'd like chro mo but whatevs) i.e. gas pipes. It's a fun bike, I love nipping it around town, track standing like an itinerant ne'er do well.