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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5200 on: 13 March, 2019, 06:48:10 pm »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5201 on: 13 March, 2019, 07:02:58 pm »
I agree the double hyphen looks odd, though I also think it's the most logical. "Anti money-laundering systems" looks a bit odd with the anti on its own, while "anti-money laundering systems" suggests the laundering of anti-money. Okay, time to apply reality over logic, this isn't sci-fi so anti-money isn't a potential confusion.

I'm now pondering the same question with "a mid single digit number". Why can't these people be like everyone else and just say "in single digits"! Guess I'll go with "mid-single digit number" on the same basis. And use of non-breaking spaces.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5202 on: 13 March, 2019, 07:06:35 pm »
actually reckon "mid single-digit number" looks better.
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Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5203 on: 13 March, 2019, 08:34:26 pm »
If 2008 taught us anything, it's that anti-money is every bit as real as normal money.  Not sure how you launder it, thobut.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5204 on: 13 March, 2019, 08:39:27 pm »
Anti-money? Shouldn't that be kept away from its opposite?

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Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5205 on: 13 March, 2019, 09:01:03 pm »
If 2008 taught us anything, it's that anti-money is every bit as real as normal money.  Not sure how you launder it, thobut.
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5206 on: 13 March, 2019, 09:02:07 pm »
Anti-money? Shouldn't that be kept away from its opposite?

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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5207 on: 14 March, 2019, 08:15:39 am »
Since you're into chemistry now why not apply the idea of bonding to hyphens?  Money-laundering is obviously the thing they're anti so it should get a double bond, like so: money=laundering. Anti (bless her) merely gets a single bond, so the result is anti-money=laundering.

On second thoughts, :sick:
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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5208 on: 14 March, 2019, 09:09:43 am »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.

Yes, but that looks like someone is laundering 'anti-money' which is a thing in my wallet that annihilates real money while I stand in the pub.

I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5209 on: 14 March, 2019, 09:13:55 am »
I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.

Funnily enough, that's exactly what I was going to say but I changed my mind and went with the crap antimony-laundering gag instead.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5210 on: 14 March, 2019, 09:21:40 am »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.

Yes, but that looks like someone is laundering 'anti-money' which is a thing in my wallet that annihilates real money while I stand in the pub.

I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.
That would be great but alas AML is the standard acronym.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5211 on: 14 March, 2019, 09:58:09 am »
I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.

Funnily enough, that's exactly what I was going to say but I changed my mind and went with the crap antimony-laundering gag instead.

It's good to see an element of humour in this thread.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5212 on: 14 March, 2019, 10:18:39 am »
Don't worry, people will soon start spewing bile...

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5213 on: 14 March, 2019, 11:06:13 am »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5214 on: 14 March, 2019, 11:15:49 am »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.
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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5215 on: 14 March, 2019, 11:23:34 am »
Indeed, no one says what am I doing wrongly even if it's rightly.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5216 on: 14 March, 2019, 11:43:40 am »
Don't worry, people will soon start spewing bile...
I'm an anti bile-spewing person.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5218 on: 14 March, 2019, 01:11:10 pm »
FCA's not so sure.

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Your internal controls effectively monitor and manage your firm’s compliance with anti-money-laundering (AML) policies and procedures.
and
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We also require that firms:
give overall responsibility for anti money-laundering systems and controls to a director or senior manager.

EBA and https://www.gov.uk/anti-money-laundering-registration are consistently anti-money laundering.



citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5219 on: 14 March, 2019, 01:27:24 pm »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.

And thereby hangs a tale.

Yes, but what are you going to do about it?

I'm more bothered by people saying 'good' when they mean 'well' but I've admitted defeat on that one too.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5220 on: 14 March, 2019, 01:38:54 pm »
So you're anti-wrong doing in grammar. I mean anti wrong-doing. No, hang on...  ;)
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5221 on: 14 March, 2019, 01:41:29 pm »
I'm doing good to increase my wellbeing. Doing bad would be wrongdoing.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5222 on: 14 March, 2019, 02:05:50 pm »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.

It's still bloody inelegant.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5223 on: 14 March, 2019, 04:18:08 pm »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.

It's still bloody inelegant.

Flashbacks to having "-ly!" shouted at me by parents, in that tone usually used for pulling you up for dropping 't's.

It's one of those things I'll do in speech and informal[1] text, but not in writing.  I can't be certain that I'm *always* referencing the "$thing: ur doing it wrong" meme, either.


[1] IRC and other speech-equivalent media where I wouldn't make the effort to use upper case and non-essential punctuation.

ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5224 on: 14 March, 2019, 04:42:45 pm »
I just made the Lady Inside My Computer say 'eating pineapple wrongly this entire time.'

Nah. Besides adding 'ly' to words is Trumply these days.