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Title: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Jaded on 24 July, 2021, 07:26:12 am
They have started, and are quite weird.

We have already had Heather Watson beaten, Helen Glover struggle in a heat, and Geraint Thomas fall.

No new infections reported yet…
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: fd3 on 24 July, 2021, 08:41:23 am
Not since the start, but there have been several cases in the build up.  Surely Geraint falling is nothing unusual.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: toontra on 24 July, 2021, 08:44:32 am
Arseholes!  Following several hours of predictable peloton boredom, just when the road race is at the crucial part they cut to a meaningless interview with Cav.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: T42 on 24 July, 2021, 10:41:06 am
Well, it was one of those stinking foreigns about to win it, so why hang about?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Snakehips on 24 July, 2021, 10:54:10 am
No new infections reported yet…
Simon Geschke had to miss the road race.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 24 July, 2021, 12:22:11 pm

I'm kinda avoiding the Olympics this time. I'm a bit pissed off with some of the stuff around it.

But, I am loving some of the headlines to come out of it.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7DSWqcXsAk3_Y5?format=jpg&name=large)

I dunno what impresses me more, that a cyclist is winning all these events, or that he's doing so all on the first day!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7ChavDXoAovCvg?format=jpg&name=large)

I didn't realise you could win at shooting just by announcing more covid cases. Maybe that's what Johnson's strategy is?

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 24 July, 2021, 12:25:54 pm
Excellent stuff, J.!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Jaded on 24 July, 2021, 04:09:12 pm
Indeed!

May I add this paragraph from the BBC

Quote
Adam Peaty began the defence of his Olympic 100m breaststroke title in impressive style as Team GB beat hosts Japan in the women's football on day one of the Tokyo 2020 Games.
   ???
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 24 July, 2021, 04:25:35 pm
Saw that one, too, J.  There could be a book, Colemanballs-style in this!  It's shaping up nicely.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: pumpkin on 25 July, 2021, 04:26:18 pm
Today's Women's cycling road race where no one knew a rider had got away so everyone was riding for 2nd. The winner is an Austrian lady with a ph. D in mathematics (specialising in all kinds of brainiac numbers) who hasn't had a full time career in cycling since 2017. I suspect she won't be giving up the day job.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 25 July, 2021, 06:00:56 pm
Today's Women's cycling road race where no one knew a rider had got away so everyone was riding for 2nd. The winner is an Austrian lady with a ph. D in mathematics (specialising in all kinds of brainiac numbers) who hasn't had a full time career in cycling since 2017. I suspect she won't be giving up the day job.

I want her to win a Nobel prize now...

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 25 July, 2021, 07:00:28 pm
She may already have won won - but the rest of academia doesn't realise.....!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Pingu on 25 July, 2021, 11:07:16 pm
Mincing about on horses in a pandemic  ???
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: T42 on 26 July, 2021, 07:53:52 am
Today's Women's cycling road race where no one knew a rider had got away so everyone was riding for 2nd. The winner is an Austrian lady with a ph. D in mathematics (specialising in all kinds of brainiac numbers) who hasn't had a full time career in cycling since 2017. I suspect she won't be giving up the day job.

I want her to win a Nobel prize now...

J

They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.

---o0o---

Meanwhile, I was pleased to see that a French bloke had won the men's épée.  That used to be my sport at university.  No damn good at it, though.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 26 July, 2021, 09:13:44 am
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 26 July, 2021, 10:14:09 am
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
everything is just applied mathematics really.  :demon:
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Regulator on 26 July, 2021, 11:23:15 am
Tom Daley and Matty Lee get gold...  :thumbsup:
 
https://www.eurosport.co.uk/diving/tokyo-2020/2021/it-s-finally-come-true-tom-daley-and-matty-lee-emotional-on-podium-with-gold-medals_vid1510547/video.shtml
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 July, 2021, 11:27:58 am
Tom Pidcock seemed to do all right in the mountain biking.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 26 July, 2021, 12:10:54 pm
Tom Daley and Matty Lee get gold...  :thumbsup:
 
https://www.eurosport.co.uk/diving/tokyo-2020/2021/it-s-finally-come-true-tom-daley-and-matty-lee-emotional-on-podium-with-gold-medals_vid1510547/video.shtml

I've just seen the BBC report on that.  The diving was superb - but the English commentator was embarrassing.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 26 July, 2021, 01:51:38 pm
I feel a little  worried for Pidcock, he expects to get a golden MTB but who can make it for him.  Is team bike sponsor was Pinarello who do not currently make mountain bikes usually make special bikes for their big winners. He rode a non team customised unmarked BMC.  So they will not make him a golden bike either.   
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: spesh on 26 July, 2021, 04:40:42 pm
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
everything is just applied mathematics really.  :demon:

And mathematics is applied coffee drinking1.



1 "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems" ~ Hungarian mathematician Alfréd Rényi (this quote is commonly misattributed to Paul Erdős)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 26 July, 2021, 05:00:57 pm
Excellent, Spesh!  ;D

A meteorologist is a device for turning coffee into thermals

A cup is a device for turning coffee into thermos?

(Yours is much better - but I thought I'd try!)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 26 July, 2021, 10:33:51 pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7Og-DVWEAQKcMq?format=jpg&name=large)

Well that's one way to stand holding a gun... If it works for you, go for it!

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 26 July, 2021, 10:36:57 pm
I think she's Russian?  The electronic device which automatically registers a bull is possibly in her left pocket!  (Think fencing, a number of years ago.)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 26 July, 2021, 11:19:42 pm
Watching that on video, there seems to be no recoil at all from those pistols.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 27 July, 2021, 10:46:48 am
<snip>
Well that's one way to stand holding a gun... If it works for you, go for it!

J
That seems to be the favoured form for air pistol shooting…
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 July, 2021, 10:57:07 am

https://twitter.com/sportwereld_be/status/1419945689388249088

The Dutch cycling team is not doing well at this Olympics, First they mess up the road race, MvdP crashes, an incident in the BMX, and now blatant misogyny from some moron official has seen Anna Vdb pulled from her bike during training...

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 27 July, 2021, 11:18:01 am
If my Dutch is up to it, the tweet says exactly what you said.  Is there an explanation anywhere?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 July, 2021, 11:20:15 am
If my Dutch is up to it, the tweet says exactly what you said.  Is there an explanation anywhere?

There is a link at the end of the tweet to an article in Flemish, which google comedy converterb makes an interesting job of...

In other news, someone on twitter just mentioned that "Brits called Tom are currently 8th in the medal table" Have not verified this, but it made me laugh a lot.

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 27 July, 2021, 11:27:42 am
OK, thanks!  I'll have a look.  "Toms"   ;D

Couldn't find the google translate feature but having a go at Flemish (!) it seems the Japanese official opened a door which knocked VdeB off her bike, though she wasn't injured.  The officials didn't realise that the riders were actually competitors checking the last part of the TT circuit.  Is that close?!

(Presumably it's considered ok to knock non-competitors off their bikes in Japan - as it is in England!)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Clare on 27 July, 2021, 01:36:26 pm
The Dutch team needs to spend a bit of time teaching their hosts the Dutch Reach.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 27 July, 2021, 01:41:27 pm
Ha!  But I may have got the translation wrong!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: pcolbeck on 27 July, 2021, 04:21:29 pm
Watching that on video, there seems to be no recoil at all from those pistols.

Isn't that the 10m air pistol? If it is there will be virtually zero recoil. They are pneumatic so purely air powered, no spring piston. The mass of the pellet is so small compared o the mass of the gun that there is no noticeable recoil. If it was a spring pistol then there would be the mass of the piston as well as the pellet and then you also get recoil in the opposite direction as the spring catches up and slams into the stop.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 27 July, 2021, 05:14:19 pm
Blimey though but those weightlifters look powerful people in a way that bodybuilders just don’t. I wouldn’t want to fall out with any of them.  :o
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 July, 2021, 08:06:07 pm
Tom Daly wins a gold for knitting.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR0ciqMIOIJ/
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: andyoxon on 27 July, 2021, 08:11:04 pm
Dressage.  Dancing horses?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Salvatore on 27 July, 2021, 08:17:36 pm

In other news, someone on twitter just mentioned that "Brits called Tom are currently 8th in the medal table" Have not verified this, but it made me laugh a lot.

J

That explains why the Dutch selected Dumoulin for tomorrow's time trial. What could possibly go wrong.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: spesh on 27 July, 2021, 08:44:20 pm

In other news, someone on twitter just mentioned that "Brits called Tom are currently 8th in the medal table" Have not verified this, but it made me laugh a lot.

J

That explains why the Dutch selected Dumoulin for tomorrow's time trial. What could possibly go wrong.

A surprise eruption from Mount Fuji, firing a lava bomb through Dumoulin's front wheel?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: hatler on 27 July, 2021, 11:22:53 pm
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
everything is just applied mathematics really.  :demon:
Pure Maths is Pure Maths
Applied Maths is applied Pure Maths
Physics is applied Applied Maths
Chemistry is applied Physics
Biology is applied Chemistry
Everything else is just applied Biology.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 July, 2021, 12:03:15 am

In other news, someone on twitter just mentioned that "Brits called Tom are currently 8th in the medal table" Have not verified this, but it made me laugh a lot.

J

That explains why the Dutch selected Dumoulin for tomorrow's time trial. What could possibly go wrong.

A surprise eruption from Mount Fuji, firing a lava bomb through Dumoulin's front wheel?

EC Boardman: Ahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Oh yes!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 28 July, 2021, 12:45:44 am
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
everything is just applied mathematics really.  :demon:
Pure Maths is Pure Maths
Applied Maths is applied Pure Maths
Physics is applied Applied Maths
Chemistry is applied Physics
Biology is applied Chemistry
Everything else is just applied Biology.
That’s wot I sed. Everting is just applied mathematics.   8)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 28 July, 2021, 12:47:56 am

In other news, someone on twitter just mentioned that "Brits called Tom are currently 8th in the medal table" Have not verified this, but it made me laugh a lot.

J

That explains why the Dutch selected Dumoulin for tomorrow's time trial. What could possibly go wrong.

A surprise eruption from Mount Fuji, firing a lava bomb through Dumoulin's front wheel?

EC Boardman: Ahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Oh yes!
He’s probably been up Mount Fuji since the bimble around France ended, chucking in virgin domesteques and dancing funny jigs…
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 July, 2021, 01:09:27 am
At least he’s not complaining about monkeys* on the course like he was in Rio.

* No. No, not Andre Greipel.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: DuncanM on 28 July, 2021, 03:34:31 pm
And the British rowers almost managed to ram the Italians:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/57993952
Ooops.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 July, 2021, 03:54:07 pm
I would've won if it wasn't for those medalling kids!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/skateboarding/57966052
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Jaded on 28 July, 2021, 05:11:00 pm
And the British rowers almost managed to ram the Italians:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/57993952
Ooops.

That was extraordinary - bow has a job to row and steer, but to lose command fostering like that. They came right out of their own lane.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 July, 2021, 06:19:38 pm
I would've won if it wasn't for those medalling kids!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/skateboarding/57966052

Did better than the Nogweegie lightweight double sculls, who fell in the water.  Makes you wonder how the Vikings made it to Newfoundland…
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 28 July, 2021, 06:41:53 pm
It was an accident: they fell in the water off Northumberland and were picked up by four British sailors - who were heading for Newcastle.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 July, 2021, 09:45:33 pm
They don't give Nobels for maths. It'll have to be the Fields medal.


But they do i Physics and Economics, which are both just applied Maths...

J
everything is just applied mathematics really.  :demon:
Pure Maths is Pure Maths
Applied Maths is applied Pure Maths
Physics is applied Applied Maths
Chemistry is applied Physics
Biology is applied Chemistry
Everything else is just applied Biology.
That’s wot I sed. Everting is just applied mathematics.   8)
Here's an alternative view: mathematics is just applied language.
https://theconversation.com/why-animals-recognise-numbers-but-only-humans-can-do-maths-165121
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Basil on 30 July, 2021, 12:25:51 pm
I always understood that the reason that GB never entered a a football team in the Olympics was because of the fear that if they did so, FIFA would insist on the same for the world cup, rather than allowing the teams from the four separate nations.
I see that there is a GB team in the women's competition.  Has the fear of FIFA's attitude passed?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: grams on 30 July, 2021, 01:10:36 pm
I always understood that the reason that GB never entered a a football team in the Olympics was because of the fear that if they did so, FIFA would insist on the same for the world cup, rather than allowing the teams from the four separate nations.
I see that there is a GB team in the women's competition.  Has the fear of FIFA's attitude passed?

* One wikipedia binge later *

One problem is that they can't qualify because Team GB doesn't compete in other competitions. This didn't apply in 2012 as we were hosting.

The women's Team GB this year is actually England, because they did best in other competitions.

All very silly.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Basil on 30 July, 2021, 01:33:02 pm
Thanks  grams, that's very interesting.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 30 July, 2021, 06:24:43 pm
I always understood that the reason that GB never entered a a football team in the Olympics was because of the fear that if they did so, FIFA would insist on the same for the world cup, rather than allowing the teams from the four separate nations.
I see that there is a GB team in the women's competition.  Has the fear of FIFA's attitude passed?
Women’s football isn’t football so it doesn’t matter.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 31 July, 2021, 09:27:06 am

And now the drugs discussion begins...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58037280

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/58010359

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 31 July, 2021, 09:42:57 am
Sport isn’t clean, particularly when big money and prestige is involved. It is naive to think otherwise. Consider high level sport as an unscripted version of professional wrestling and it becomes more palatable.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/30/usa-swimmer-ryan-murphy-sparks-war-of-words-over-doping-after-olympic-final
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: toontra on 31 July, 2021, 12:39:51 pm
BBC athletics coverage crap as usual.  Rather than showing the live discus final (no GB competitor) they spend 25 minutes pondering why a GB athlete didn't make it to the woman's 100m final (hint - she didn't run fast enough).

Honestly, I want to see live action where possible, not a few heads in the studio endlessly pontificating.  It rarely gets beyond stating the bleedin' obvious anyway. But this has been the BBC way for years.  I guess they are justifying the wages of the presenters and "experts".
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Pingu on 31 July, 2021, 12:43:48 pm
BBC athletics coverage crap as usual.  Rather than showing the live discus final (no GB competitor) they spend 25 minutes discussing why a GB athlete didn't make it to the woman's 100m final (hint - she didn't run fast enough).

Honestly, I want to see live action where possible, not a few heads in the studio endlessly pontificating.  It rarely gets beyond stating the bleedin' obvious anyway. But this has been the BBC way for years.  I guess they are justifying the wages of the presenters and "experts".

https://www.channel4.com/news/tokyo-olympics-best-action-often-stuck-behind-paywall
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: toontra on 31 July, 2021, 12:47:45 pm
BBC athletics coverage crap as usual.  Rather than showing the live discus final (no GB competitor) they spend 25 minutes discussing why a GB athlete didn't make it to the woman's 100m final (hint - she didn't run fast enough).

Honestly, I want to see live action where possible, not a few heads in the studio endlessly pontificating.  It rarely gets beyond stating the bleedin' obvious anyway. But this has been the BBC way for years.  I guess they are justifying the wages of the presenters and "experts".

https://www.channel4.com/news/tokyo-olympics-best-action-often-stuck-behind-paywall

Yes - I know they are restricted to 2 live events, but in this case (and countless others) they choose not to show live events and instead have endless tedious studio twaddle.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 31 July, 2021, 01:14:54 pm
BBC athletics coverage crap as usual.  Rather than showing the live discus final (no GB competitor) they spend 25 minutes pondering why a GB athlete didn't make it to the woman's 100m final (hint - she didn't run fast enough).

Honestly, I want to see live action where possible, not a few heads in the studio endlessly pontificating.  It rarely gets beyond stating the bleedin' obvious anyway. But this has been the BBC way for years.  I guess they are justifying the wages of the presenters and "experts".

On another site I look at, someone posed the question, "What is your favourite Olympic sport?"  I answered, "Throwing the pundit."  This went down pretty well.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 01 August, 2021, 08:04:02 pm

"Can we have two golds?"

https://twitter.com/stevemagness/status/1421854621186809857

This is just beautiful.

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: andyoxon on 02 August, 2021, 08:04:44 am
Yes, one of THE moments of the games so far.   :)     https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58048827  (Twitter link not working)

Also  interview between them (https://www.eurosport.com/athletics/tokyo-2020/2021/tokyo-2020-to-share-it-with-this-dude-i-can-t-be-more-happy-barshim-and-tamberi-on-joint-gold_vid1518022/video.shtml). 
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 August, 2021, 09:53:02 am
I want to know how the medal ceremony works for that. Presumably they only have one physical gold medal and they'll have to make another. How long does that take, who gets to go home with a medal in their luggage and who gets to wait for the postie? Whose anthem do they play: both, neither, maybe the Olympic anthem instead?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: andyoxon on 02 August, 2021, 10:20:40 am
Medal ceremony today?  Perhaps we'll find out the details.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 02 August, 2021, 10:32:06 am
I don't know whether or not they are engraved but I would have thought there would be spare medals.  I think relay participants who are not part of the medal-winning teams but have helped in the heats are awarded medals and they can't be sure how many teams will use such tactics.  I'm not sure about it but I've heard it mentioned by commentators (so it could be wrong).

For what it's worth, I don't think the high-jumpers were necessarily being quite as Olympian and altruistic as people have enthused about.  Agreeing to share a medal (at your own, not the official's suggestion) could easily have been a way of avoiding the other athlete beating you in the jump-off.  This way no-one has to settle for silver.  But I'm still glad it happened.  I'm not so sure it'll be allowed again.  But it might, because both jumpers had identical records and jumped as high as the other.  I think a jump-off is not in the spirit of the thing, even though it could be argued that the medal would go to the most consistent jumper.  As they go down in height till one fails, the silver medallist would have failed a height he had already cleared in the competition. 
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: grams on 02 August, 2021, 10:38:53 am
Ties don't seem to be that rare. I'm sure they have plenty of spares and protocols:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ties_for_medals_at_the_Olympics

(the odd "vacant" squares on that page all seem to be doping-related)

IIRC it's a particular problem in swimming because the the pools aren't constructed accurately enough to allow tiny time gaps to be considered significant.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 02 August, 2021, 10:47:19 am
One of those videos above said it was the first since 1912. They didn't specify in high jumping, but it seems that's what they must have meant.

Or perhaps they meant 2012, when there was a three-way tie for bronze, involving the same Qatari jumper.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 02 August, 2021, 10:56:20 am
Nasty accident for the Australians in the men's team pursuit. Handlebar failure. The time my handlebars snapped, at a lower speed, was the only time I was grateful to finish up in a bed of stingy nettles.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 02 August, 2021, 07:39:04 pm

I really hope Krystina Timanovskaya's flight doesn't go anywhere near Russian or Belarusian air space...

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: DuncanM on 03 August, 2021, 10:27:58 am
The 400m hurdles was insane. The winner obliterated his own WR, the guy in second merely smashed it! 3rd wasn't so far off the previous WR, and he was miles behind!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 03 August, 2021, 10:53:34 am
There seems to be a lot of world records being destroyed just now. I wonder how it compares with previous olympic’s, I’m sure there’s a table somewhere if I CBA to look for it.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: pcolbeck on 03 August, 2021, 10:56:46 am
In the sailing do competitors get to use their own boats or are they all the same and issued by the hosting Olympics committee ?
The sailing events I have watched all the boats look remarkably the same down to the graphics but I cant find out if that's just very tight class regulations or if they are all exactly the same.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 03 August, 2021, 11:36:24 am
A lot of the newer classes are strict one design all coming from the same manufacture, though older existing classes (such as the Finn) are also one design with very limited options. I believe that it’s been standard for all the boats to be provided at the olympics though so even where limited options are available, there’s very little wiggle room.

ETA
Here you are. About halfway down it says that “ Nacra 17 Multihull, the 49er and the 49erFX skiffs, sailors bring their own equipment to the Games” and the rest are provided.
Boat measuring at the olympics (https://www.sail-world.com/news/239885/Measuring-boats-its-not-a-popularity-contest)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: pcolbeck on 03 August, 2021, 02:38:01 pm
A lot of the newer classes are strict one design all coming from the same manufacture, though older existing classes (such as the Finn) are also one design with very limited options. I believe that it’s been standard for all the boats to be provided at the olympics though so even where limited options are available, there’s very little wiggle room.

ETA
Here you are. About halfway down it says that “ Nacra 17 Multihull, the 49er and the 49erFX skiffs, sailors bring their own equipment to the Games” and the rest are provided.
Boat measuring at the olympics (https://www.sail-world.com/news/239885/Measuring-boats-its-not-a-popularity-contest)

Thanks Beardy.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 04 August, 2021, 11:36:03 am
Another sailing gold, a skateboarding bronze and a brace of silvers for team Kenny. Blimey thoughbut team GB are doing well out there.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 04 August, 2021, 02:35:12 pm
And now Gold for a British horse - at least, I assume it's British!  Then, most horses are Irish - but get slaughtered in Britain.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: T42 on 04 August, 2021, 04:59:05 pm
My old chum Charlie used to say "I'm going to cast a bronze" when heading for the cludge.  Nowadays, when I hear that someone won a bronze...
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 August, 2021, 05:26:16 pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7Og-DVWEAQKcMq?format=jpg&name=large)

Well that's one way to stand holding a gun... If it works for you, go for it!

J
I used to shoot target pistol (10m air, 50m free).

That is the standard pose. Either hand in pocket or hooked on waistband. The pistols are heavy, so having the off hand like that balances you up.

Trivia:
The '10' in the 10m air pistol target is about the size of a pencil lead. Elite shooters will hardly ever miss.
The '10' in the 50m free pistol is the same relative size, subtended out to 50m. Flight time to target is greater and the wind can affect the bullet.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 August, 2021, 05:32:24 pm
Hasn't had enough publicity.

Lisa Carrington, NZ sprint kayaker, has dominated the 200m event for 3 olympics. I think she's unbeaten at that distance in international events.

So it isn't remarkable that she won again this year.

What is remarkable, is that 90 minutes later she got in a K2 boat and won the K2 500m event.

Absolutely incredible recovery rate and phenomenal speed.

There is a faint possibility that she will get a 3rd gold later this week (but unlikely, she doesn't do as well at the longer sprint events).

[Edit]
Achieved the unbelievable. 3 Golds.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 04 August, 2021, 06:38:37 pm
Of all the water sports I’ve ever watched or participated in, I think sprint kayaking and canoeing really are the most silly. I’m not decrying the athleticism or balance required to compete, but I really don’t ‘get it’ as a sport. That said, I’d rather try and balance a Sprint canoe than have another go on a jet ski.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Pingu on 04 August, 2021, 10:14:49 pm
GB up in the medal table thanks to rich people's 'sports'.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 August, 2021, 09:15:34 am
Of all the water sports I’ve ever watched or participated in, I think sprint kayaking and canoeing really are the most silly. I’m not decrying the athleticism or balance required to compete, but I really don’t ‘get it’ as a sport. That said, I’d rather try and balance a Sprint canoe than have another go on a jet ski.

How are they any more 'silly' than people running around a track? Or people on bikes riding in circles?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 05 August, 2021, 10:52:44 am
Of all the water sports I’ve ever watched or participated in, I think sprint kayaking and canoeing really are the most silly. I’m not decrying the athleticism or balance required to compete, but I really don’t ‘get it’ as a sport. That said, I’d rather try and balance a Sprint canoe than have another go on a jet ski.

How are they any more 'silly' than people running around a track? Or people on bikes riding in circles?
Last time I looked running around in circles and riding bikes in circles didn’t take place in water.  ;D
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 August, 2021, 11:34:13 am
Of all the water sports I’ve ever watched or participated in, I think sprint kayaking and canoeing really are the most silly. I’m not decrying the athleticism or balance required to compete, but I really don’t ‘get it’ as a sport. That said, I’d rather try and balance a Sprint canoe than have another go on a jet ski.

How are they any more 'silly' than people running around a track? Or people on bikes riding in circles?
Last time I looked running around in circles and riding bikes in circles didn’t take place in water.  ;D
Sorry, I don't get it.

All watersports are silly?

Absolutely accept that not everyone likes watersports.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: T42 on 05 August, 2021, 12:43:43 pm
If something can be muscle-propelled, people will race with it and someone else will give them gimcrack medals and get rich hawking the TV rights.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 05 August, 2021, 01:39:06 pm
Don't we have a 'silly sports that actually exist' thread?

I'd nominate Dressage.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 05 August, 2021, 01:52:36 pm
Don't we have a 'silly sports that actually exist' thread?

I'd nominate Dressage.
Id’d have to agree with you there. In fact of all the Olympic sports, equestrianism is probably the furthest away from the Olympic ideals as you can get. Irrespective of your horsemanship, if you can’t afford the very high prices to buy the right horse, you ain’t going to be competitive. It’s not like other sports where you compete at the lower levels with lesser equipment then upgrade your equipment for the marginal gains as you reach the top echelons. You’ve only got to look at any of the horsey people…
Sorry, is my prejudice showing  :-[
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 05 August, 2021, 01:54:44 pm
Don't we have a 'silly sports that actually exist' thread?

I'd nominate Dressage.

Yes (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=62048.0). Guess what the first one mentioned is? ;D
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 05 August, 2021, 02:00:52 pm
I'm not a fan of equestrianism but want to point out that here in Lancashire, on the edge of the Pennines, loads of (mostly female) working class people ride and compete.  As for the nobs and those at the Olympics, I believe it's possible to be competing on a horse that is actually owned by a consortium and you don't actually own it at all.

Agree that dressage is really silly and only morbidly fascinating.  Down there with underwater hockey, I think.  I've never actually watched underwater hockey but I wouldn't mind betting there's a special dress-code for women......
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Basil on 05 August, 2021, 02:51:35 pm
Ok,well I'm currently watching a sport where you perform some sort of martial art against an imaginary opponent.   ???
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: DuncanM on 05 August, 2021, 02:52:05 pm
There was a classic piece of commentary saying that Equestrian X had a gold medal from the team event in a previous games, and now they had earned one all on their own. Which somewhat leaves out the horse!
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 05 August, 2021, 02:55:05 pm
Ok,well I'm currently watching a sport where you perform some sort of martial art against an imaginary opponent.   ???
Tai chi?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: spesh on 05 August, 2021, 03:57:24 pm
Ok,well I'm currently watching a sport where you perform some sort of martial art against an imaginary opponent.   ???

That'll be the kata discipline of karate.

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Kata - which means 'shape' or 'model' - is a solo discipline, in which competitors, or karatekas, are judged on a series of pre-approved choreographed offensive and defensive movements.

BBC: What are the new sports at the Tokyo Olympic Games? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/57240400)
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 05 August, 2021, 06:14:21 pm
Possibly lobbied for with a view to boosting a future home nations medal tally?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Clare on 05 August, 2021, 06:28:06 pm
I've never actually watched underwater hockey but I wouldn't mind betting there's a special dress-code for women......

Women - swimsuit, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.

Men - trunks, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.

Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 05 August, 2021, 07:15:18 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 August, 2021, 08:20:54 pm
I've never actually watched underwater hockey but I wouldn't mind betting there's a special dress-code for women......

Women - swimsuit, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.

Men - trunks, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.

Cap. Water polo cap that covers the ears to provide protection. When I played I never bothered with the mouth guard tho.

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 August, 2021, 08:53:29 pm
I think we should continue with dressage as an olympic sport but change the rules slightly so that the human has to ride a bison.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 05 August, 2021, 08:55:54 pm
A couple of people at my scuba club tried valiantly to get octipush to be a regular part of pool nights, but most of us preferred to use the time to natter and plan diving trips. They gave up eventually.  ;D
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 August, 2021, 09:00:16 pm
A couple of people at my scuba club tried valiantly to get octipush to be a regular part of pool nights, but most of us preferred to use the time to natter and plan diving trips. They gave up eventually.  ;D

I used to play 3 nights a week when I was younger and part of a dive club.

Fantastic exercise. I have never been fitter.

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Clare on 05 August, 2021, 10:04:24 pm
I've never actually watched underwater hockey but I wouldn't mind betting there's a special dress-code for women......

Women - swimsuit, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.

Men - trunks, goggles, flippers, snorkel, mouth guard, gloves, socks, sports bra optional.


Cap. Water polo cap that covers the ears to provide protection. When I played I never bothered with the mouth guard tho.

J

We never had caps or mouth guards but that was back in the 1980s and only a couple of years after I had played as a hockey goalie with the only protection being an MCN sellotaped to each leg and my fencing jacket with cup guards.

Ah, back in the day...
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Pingu on 05 August, 2021, 11:27:50 pm
There is no way that using animals to gain medals should be sanctioned.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Hot Flatus on 06 August, 2021, 08:22:12 am
Olympic Walking race.

Is it compulsory to urgently need a shit when racing?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 06 August, 2021, 09:08:27 am
Ties don't seem to be that rare. I'm sure they have plenty of spares and protocols:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ties_for_medals_at_the_Olympics

(the odd "vacant" squares on that page all seem to be doping-related)

IIRC it's a particular problem in swimming because the the pools aren't constructed accurately enough to allow tiny time gaps to be considered significant.

They aren't proper gold anyway.  I heard they are made from recycled mobile phones tarted up.  At least that'd cut the insurance premium.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 06 August, 2021, 10:06:39 am
They aren't proper gold anyway.  I heard they are made from recycled mobile phones tarted up.  At least that'd cut the insurance premium.

They are made of gold reclaimed from recycled electronics. It's still gold. But the core is actually silver, as the gold would be too heavy.

The gold is still proper gold, it's just been reclaimed from the trash.

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Basil on 06 August, 2021, 11:01:26 am
Olympic Walking race.

Ah yes. Power mincing.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 06 August, 2021, 11:20:15 am
They aren't proper gold anyway.  I heard they are made from recycled mobile phones tarted up.  At least that'd cut the insurance premium.

They are made of gold reclaimed from recycled electronics. It's still gold. But the core is actually silver, as the gold would be too heavy.

The gold is still proper gold, it's just been reclaimed from the trash.

J

Not wishing to be the bearer of bad news but I'm trusting Sophie Parsons on this one:

Olympic Gold: Are the medals made of real gold and how are they made? (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19468965.olympic-gold-medals-made-real-gold-made/)

It's good because gold mining is environmentally devastating.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: phantasmagoriana on 06 August, 2021, 11:35:35 am
Olympic Walking race.

Is it compulsory to urgently need a shit when racing?

I watched a bit of this last night. They "walk" much faster than I can run. ???
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: quixoticgeek on 06 August, 2021, 11:59:53 am
They aren't proper gold anyway.  I heard they are made from recycled mobile phones tarted up.  At least that'd cut the insurance premium.

They are made of gold reclaimed from recycled electronics. It's still gold. But the core is actually silver, as the gold would be too heavy.

The gold is still proper gold, it's just been reclaimed from the trash.

J

Not wishing to be the bearer of bad news but I'm trusting Sophie Parsons on this one:

Olympic Gold: Are the medals made of real gold and how are they made? (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19468965.olympic-gold-medals-made-real-gold-made/)

It's good because gold mining is environmentally devastating.

I am not seeing any contradiction in what I said...

J
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 August, 2021, 03:23:51 pm
Something tells me that my olympic gold medal isn't real gold...
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 August, 2021, 03:35:08 pm
Dontcha just love Laura Kenny?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 07 August, 2021, 11:49:14 am
They aren't proper gold anyway.  I heard they are made from recycled mobile phones tarted up.  At least that'd cut the insurance premium.

They are made of gold reclaimed from recycled electronics. It's still gold. But the core is actually silver, as the gold would be too heavy.

The gold is still proper gold, it's just been reclaimed from the trash.

J

Not wishing to be the bearer of bad news but I'm trusting Sophie Parsons on this one:

Olympic Gold: Are the medals made of real gold and how are they made? (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19468965.olympic-gold-medals-made-real-gold-made/)

It's good because gold mining is environmentally devastating.

I am not seeing any contradiction in what I said...

J

Would I ever?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: fd3 on 08 August, 2021, 05:23:38 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58136944
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There have been calls for Jason Kenny to be knighted after he became Great Britain's most decorated Olympian.
Maybe they should stop handing out Knighthoods to sportspeople?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 August, 2021, 06:27:48 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58136944
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There have been calls for Jason Kenny to be knighted after he became Great Britain's most decorated Olympian.
Maybe they should stop handing out Knighthoods to sportspeople?

FTFY  :demon:
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 08 August, 2021, 09:20:23 pm
If they gave Jason a knighthood for being the most decorated British Olympian and Laura a dame hood for being the most decorated female British Olympian and did so at the same time would it be the first case of a married couple getting such gongs at the same time?
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Jaded on 12 August, 2021, 06:12:51 pm
British sprinter (who won Silver in the 4x100m) suspended

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/58193101
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: rafletcher on 12 August, 2021, 07:09:31 pm
Which I guess means they all lose their medals  :-X
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 13 August, 2021, 09:16:59 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58136944
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There have been calls for Jason Kenny to be knighted after he became Great Britain's most decorated Olympian.
Maybe they should stop handing out Knighthoods to sportspeople?

There should be a higher rank called 'Knighthood Declined' or KD.  I always think more highly of people who turn them down.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: fd3 on 13 August, 2021, 07:41:38 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58136944
Quote
There have been calls for Jason Kenny to be knighted after he became Great Britain's most decorated Olympian.
Maybe they should stop handing out Knighthoods to sportspeople?

FTFY  :demon:
Thanks, I’d drink to that.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: T42 on 14 August, 2021, 02:53:32 pm
They need to wait until all drug test results are in before giving anyone a K.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Beardy on 29 August, 2021, 12:50:53 am
I’m just watching the Paralympic triathlon, and to say I feel ashamed at my inability to get out and run is something of an understatement. They’ve just done the changeover from the swim to the cycle and the number of the competitors who are strapping on prosthetics or have their bikes significant;y modified so they can interface better isn’t surprising given the context, but it shames me.
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: Peter on 29 August, 2021, 01:37:27 am
That's depression talking, Beardy.  nothing to be ashamed of.

Good luck

Peter
Title: Re: 2020/2021 Olympics
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 September, 2021, 10:21:34 am
Not seen any of the paralympics.

Delighted to read that Hannah Cockroft one (again) in the 100m. Another chance for another gold this coming Sat - the 800m is her better distance.

Sad to read that Ellie Robinson is probably going to retire from competitive sport due to Perthes. Too difficult to hold a crumbling body together.