Snigger.
The worst thing was, the jammy sods who'd picked the first and second teams were both Hartlepool fans.
That's borderline Wow; if I were the referee I'd be "having a word" despite it being your first offence.Ah, but regard it as a learning experience! It's going to be hard to avoid this stuff over the coming weeks. Where best to find out about it - some clichéd commentator or the erudite, and possibly smutty, pages of YACF?
If I can put it into a different context, I've absolutely no interest in chess so I don't contribute to any of the threads that you start.
That's borderline Wow; if I were the referee I'd be "having a word" despite it being your first offence.Ah, but regard it as a learning experience! It's going to be hard to avoid this stuff over the coming weeks. Where best to find out about it - some clichéd commentator or the erudite, and possibly smutty, pages of YACF?
If I can put it into a different context, I've absolutely no interest in chess so I don't contribute to any of the threads that you start.
I really enjoyed Ecuador's second goal in the warm-up match.
Didn't Steve Bull have a prolific season for Wolves and get a few caps as a result?He played in the 1990 world cup.
Wayne Rooney won't deliver
Living in Wales it's going to be tough to watch the matches in a sociable manner as you get relegated to a quiet side-room in the pubs if they're showing it all which is a shame.
Conversely before I moved to Wales I was in Brum and all their pubs got infected by the 'no surrender to the IRA' mob ::-) but the missus wants us to go there to watch it if England do progress.
Personally I'm of Scottish extraction so don't really give all that much of a toss how England do, I prefer to watch it as a celebration of football - it's watching the great teams and the unexpectedly good teams that get me going.
Winner ?
I think Argentina on the basis that the pressure on Brazil will be too much.
Spain as an outside bet, if I were to bet.
England aren’t usually crap just not as good as the hype from the press makes them out to be before every tournament. They consistently make it to the quarter finals which isn’t bad. You also need a bit of luck which the two England teams in recent history that had a reasonable chance of winning the World Cup didn’t have.
The 1986 team were knocked out in the quarter finals by M aradonna's hand of god goal.
The 1998 team were knocked out after a young David Beckham was sent off. That squad was really good,SHearer,Beckham, Scholes,etc
Living in Wales it's going to be tough to watch the matches in a sociable manner as you get relegated to a quiet side-room in the pubs if they're showing it all which is a shame.We were camping in Snowdonia during the 2006 competition. The campsite was owned by a pub so we spent most of the evenings in there. They did show the football in the main bar. Most of the locals preferred to speak Welsh. Watching the England Sweden game was an interesting experience. Most of the locals were grudgingly supporting England, but one in particular was making a point of supporting Sweden, cheering and shouting when ever they got a corner or a throw in for instance. The five English people in the bar were keeping very quiet!
Living in Wales it's going to be tough to watch the matches in a sociable manner as you get relegated to a quiet side-room in the pubs if they're showing it all which is a shame.We were camping in Snowdonia during the 2006 competition. The campsite was owned by a pub so we spent most of the evenings in there. They did show the football in the main bar. Most of the locals preferred to speak Welsh. Watching the England Sweden game was an interesting experience. Most of the locals were grudgingly supporting England, but one in particular was making a point of supporting Sweden, cheering and shouting when ever they got a corner or a throw in for instance. The five English people in the bar were keeping very quiet!
I'm not a football fan the wife is, however I do like watching the world cup, one thing that does my head in is the gaps between games, do they really need x days to rest before a match? Big girls! Froome and brad don't get such luxuries!i think the sensible answer is probably Yes.(look at how long rugby teams get).
I wouldn't claim to be an expert but West Germany used to be good. Haven't heard much about them lately. Could it be their year again at last?
I'm not a football fan the wife is, however I do like watching the world cup, one thing that does my head in is the gaps between games, do they really need x days to rest before a match? Big girls! Froome and brad don't get such luxuries!i think the sensible answer is probably Yes.(look at how long rugby teams get).
But for the fans, those enormous gaps in the last week should come down. The players rarely put on a breackneck spectacle in the final anyway.
Having watched a lot of the clips on the BBC site, I have realised that world cups were far better in the 70s and 80s. The players had cool hair. Some of them even had moustaches. They wore proper shorts, their jerseys were simple but stylish and they strolled around with their socks around their ankles before scoring memorable goals.Yes, Scotland's 1986 Umbro strip was particularly memorable, and Graeme Souness had a moustache.
Aregentina 1978
"Frankly, Manaus is in bad shape," said Carlos Botella, head groundsman for the Royal Verd company which is responsible for the turf at Manaus.
"The maintenance has been complicated."
Botella added: "There are no roads. All the machinery and materials had to be brought by ship. There was no fertilizer and no seeds.
"Now we have put fertilizer down. We will increase the fertilizing process with biostimulants and seeds to try to get the most out of the grass."
I understand that a free copy of The Scum was issued today, and that the Liverpool postmen refused to deliver it.
Just to clarify, what will be the spoiler stance of this thread? Can we openly discuss results?
Sounds about right. But please avoid thoughtless titles :thumbsup:Just to clarify, what will be the spoiler stance of this thread? Can we openly discuss results?
I would have thought so. If I don't want to know the test match score, I stay away from The Cricket thread. Same thing with the TdF.
I thought I had better find out which countries are involved. It's a bit disappointing that Ireland and Scotland aren't there.
Was it deliberate that all S. American countries were kept apart in the group stages?
Except there were seeds for the draw, so as Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Columbia were seeds, they could not have been drawn in the same group.I thought I had better find out which countries are involved. It's a bit disappointing that Ireland and Scotland aren't there.
Was it deliberate that all S. American countries were kept apart in the group stages?
Unfortunately Ireland and Scotland are just not good enough to be at the World Cup. Neither are England, really, but they seem to have scraped in.
The draw for the groups was "random" (a tombola) but could have been as fixed as last night's match was!
Poor Torres had another one of those displays that made him such a success at Chelsea.
Fucking hell. If only the Dutch had played like this four years ago!
I suggest you start your research with their performance in the last 3 major championships.( I.e. WC & Euros ).Fucking hell. If only the Dutch had played like this four years ago!
I have just seen the score to the Dutch match.
I know nothing whatever of Spain's preparation,
How interesting - my friend put that (in German) on his Facebook page a couple of days ago and I copied it onto mine (also in German).
I assumed Stefan had invented it, but perhaps not (he has that sort of humour). Or perhaps he did, and it has made its way around the world...
How interesting - my friend put that (in German) on his Facebook page a couple of days ago and I copied it onto mine (also in German).I think it was first coined in 1974.
I assumed Stefan had invented it, but perhaps not (he has that sort of humour). Or perhaps he did, and it has made its way around the world...
I reckon the BBC picks its pundits solely by how boring their voices are.
Well, I thought England played quite well. They played some good attacking football and they always looked like they could score rather than the usual hit and hope. Of course Italy did too and I'm suprised it was only 2-1 in the end. It could have been More goals - More goals. The ref had a good game too for a change...a fair summary!
Bring on Uruguay!
I thought Thierry was going fall asleep.
Bosnia-H aren't too shabby, shame about the OG.I didn't watch it, just checked the result. BiH is football-mad, but an absolutely tiny country in terms of population. Considering that, it sounds like they did very well indeed.
It has to be said; Rooney should have scored. Yes he was key in the first goal, but those strikes (which he missed) are his bread and butter. Oh well, the next match will be a tense affair.
and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch :-P(click to show/hide)
Muller should have been sent off for pretending to be injured in order to get another player sent off.It was certainly unethical behaviour. But it wasn't the hand in Muller's face that got him sent off.
Muller should have been sent off for pretending to be injured in order to get another player sent off.It was certainly unethical behaviour. But it wasn't the hand in Muller's face that got him sent off.
Mrs. Wow and I were sitting in the Patisserie Valerie in Oxford at the weekend.
Mrs. Wow and I were sitting in the Patisserie Valerie in Oxford at the weekend.
How you've changed.
Talking of discipline etc ....
A real minus for me so far has been the mobbing of refs at every decision. Team captains nowhere to be seen.
Didn't Something Get Done about this? Or was that just in the UK? :-(
Muller should have been sent off for pretending to be injured in order to get another player sent off.It was certainly unethical behaviour. But it wasn't the hand in Muller's face that got him sent off.
Crass stupidity. Putting your head onto another player's head will get you a red card, it doesn't need to be a full-on head-butt.
If he doesn't know that then he shouldn't be playing at that level.
Good grief, Spain are out of the world cup finals. :o Not actually seen any of their games - why so bad?
Good grief, Spain are out of the world cup finals. :o Not actually seen any of their games - why so bad?
To me, Spain just looked slow and old. And Chile were excellent.
Good grief, Spain are out of the world cup finals. :o Not actually seen any of their games - why so bad?
To me, Spain just looked slow and old. And Chile were excellent.
Good grief, Spain are out of the world cup finals. :o Not actually seen any of their games - why so bad?
To me, Spain just looked slow and old. And Chile were excellent.
Well, one opening defeat against the Dutch and they suddenly found themselves in the knock-out stages straight away.
I know another team like that :-)
Never mind - Terminator 2's on the telly now.
I have removed my Union Jack from the front window. I'll put the German flag there tomorrow morning.
So have you both planned your rides for their next games?I have removed my Union Jack from the front window. I'll put the German flag there tomorrow morning.
I am supporting Germany now too. I can't believe I've left it this long. England have qualified for the world cup 8 times in my lifetime and every time I've been disappointed. How foolish of me. My maternal grand mother's parents were German - although like me, they pretended not to be. And all their descendants were German too! So that makes me properly German! Sieg heil!!
Once a poor and isolated colony, since becoming independent in the 19th century, Costa Rica has become one of the most stable, prosperous, and progressive nations in Latin America. It constitutionally abolished its army permanently in 1949, becoming the first and one of the few sovereign nations without a standing army.[7][8][9] A constitutional republic, it is the only Latin American country to have been a democracy since 1950 or earlier.[10] Costa Rica has consistently been among the top-ranking Latin American countries in the Human Development Index (HDI), placing 62nd in the world as of 2012.[6]
Indeed, in 2010 Costa Rica was cited by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) as having attained much higher human development than other countries at the same income levels,[11] while in 2011, the UNDP also identified it as a good performer on environmental sustainability, with a better record on human development and inequality than the median of their region.
Costa Rica is known for its progressive environmental policies, being the only country to meet all five criteria established to measure environmental sustainability.[12] It is ranked fifth in the world, and first among the Americas, in terms of the 2012 Environmental Performance Index.[13] In 2007, the Costa Rican government announced plans for Costa Rica to become the first carbon-neutral country by 2021.[14][15][16] The New Economics Foundation (NEF) ranked Costa Rica first in its 2009 Happy Planet Index, and once again in 2012.[17][18] The NEF also ranked Costa Rica in 2009 as the greenest country in the world.[19] In 2012, Costa Rica became the first country in the Americas to ban recreational hunting after the country’s legislature approved the popular measure by a wide margin.[20][21]
I have just googled Costa Rica.
Population (2011) 4,586,353.
FurthermoreQuoteOnce a poor and isolated colony, since becoming independent in the 19th century, Costa Rica has become one of the most stable, prosperous, and progressive nations in Latin America. It constitutionally abolished its army permanently in 1949, becoming the first and one of the few sovereign nations without a standing army.[7][8][9] A constitutional republic, it is the only Latin American country to have been a democracy since 1950 or earlier.[10] Costa Rica has consistently been among the top-ranking Latin American countries in the Human Development Index (HDI), placing 62nd in the world as of 2012.[6]
Indeed, in 2010 Costa Rica was cited by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) as having attained much higher human development than other countries at the same income levels,[11] while in 2011, the UNDP also identified it as a good performer on environmental sustainability, with a better record on human development and inequality than the median of their region.
Costa Rica is known for its progressive environmental policies, being the only country to meet all five criteria established to measure environmental sustainability.[12] It is ranked fifth in the world, and first among the Americas, in terms of the 2012 Environmental Performance Index.[13] In 2007, the Costa Rican government announced plans for Costa Rica to become the first carbon-neutral country by 2021.[14][15][16] The New Economics Foundation (NEF) ranked Costa Rica first in its 2009 Happy Planet Index, and once again in 2012.[17][18] The NEF also ranked Costa Rica in 2009 as the greenest country in the world.[19] In 2012, Costa Rica became the first country in the Americas to ban recreational hunting after the country’s legislature approved the popular measure by a wide margin.[20][21]
I'm definitely supporting them now! :thumbsup:
We are better than Spain because we are still in it! ;D
It seemed to me that England were about even with Uruguay at "creating chances" but then you could almost see Sturridge and co stop, think, "Left or right? Dribble or pass? Where are my team mates? Oh, where's the ball gone?" whereas the Uruguayans were far faster and more accurate.
(this post may contain ignorance or traces of ignorance and be produced to a recipe including ignorance)
In fact, the only difference between the two teams was a buck-toothed, cheating, racist dwarf...
There are some very small nations at this event and some are doing well. They punch at their weight, while England always punch well below.... And there are plenty that punch worse than England.
It seemed to me that England were about even with Uruguay at "creating chances" but then you could almost see Sturridge and co stop, think, "Left or right? Dribble or pass? Where are my team mates? Oh, where's the ball gone?" whereas the Uruguayans were far faster and more accurate.
Agreed!Only the Mighty England stand in their way.
Costa Rica must be looking at 9 points now.
#It's coming home, it's coming home, our football team is coming home.
Agreed!Only the Mighty England stand in their way.
Costa Rica must be looking at 9 points now.
So that will be 9 points then.
In all seriousness, it's time to use that game to ditch the old guard completely and start an 11 who are likely to form the core of the side for the next 5-10 years.
Ghana's goal dance! ;D :thumbsup: Deserves an award all in itself.
And the name of the German who came on as substitute, Schweinsteiger. Does that translate as Pig Mounter? !!! :o :D
This Belgium-Russia match is quite dull.
I see that Klose has equalled Ronaldo's 15 world cup goals and that he has scored 70 international goals in total. I think Bobby Charlton scored 49 for England and Linekar 48. Most England players get nowhere near that many. On further research, I see that most countries have plenty of players past and present who have scored 50, 60, 70 and sometimes more goals. So not only do English players have an inability to pass the ball around and keep possesion, they can't score any bloody goals either!
Shame Portugal managed that very late goal.
Can you imagine what it's going to be like for us in the American media if USA win the World Cup? It doesn't bear thinking about!
I hope they adopt the spray cangod yes.
I hope they adopt the spray can
What are those actually meant to be about?I hope they adopt the spray cangod yes.
Soooo much more useful than the goal-line thingy that every man and his dog was demanding.
Of course every WC has a crap innovation too - I detest those FIfa sleeve sticker things
I hope they adopt the spray can
Louis Suarez....he's at it again.
I can hardly believe he's done it, I mean in front of how many cameras? In front of how many viewers? He's bitten another player..again!!
Looked more like a head butt than a bite to me.
Well I suppose it could be a clash of teeth against shoulder during a head but.
Well I suppose it could be a clash of teeth against shoulder during a head but.
Nope. Keep trying.
Well I suppose it could be a clash of teeth against shoulder during a head but.
I'll bet you were hoping for it all to be over by lunch.
I'll bet you were hoping for it all to be over by lunch.
Well, that's a reflection on you, not me.
I'll bet you were hoping for it all to be over by lunch.
Well, that's a reflection on you, not me.
I'm sure it is, it couldn't possibly be anything else, could it now.
Well I suppose it could be a clash of teeth against shoulder during a head but.
Bite (Verb) Use the teeth to cut into (something)
Bite/tooth but - call it what you like, the teeth marks in the close up pics of Chiellini's shoulder perfectly match the massive pegs in Suarez's gob!
I'll bet you were hoping for it all to be over by lunch.
Well, that's a reflection on you, not me.
I'm sure it is, it couldn't possibly be anything else, could it now.
No.
I'll bet you were hoping for it all to be over by lunch.
Well, that's a reflection on you, not me.
I'm sure it is, it couldn't possibly be anything else, could it now.
No.
Naturally, I wouldn't have expected any other answer from you.
... some sort of inquisition from a one-eyed sports nazi ...???
Really pleased for Greece, but that penalty looked a bit iffy. Most of the pundits wanted the Premier league stars of Ivory Coast to win.
Also interesting to note the body language on display from Shearer whenever Savage expresses an opinion and vice versa.
FIFA say Suarez can play, but must wear a mouth-guard.They should put him in a cone of shame.
perfect!FIFA say Suarez can play, but must wear a mouth-guard.They should put him in a cone of shame.
Suarez got 9 games/days suspension. + 4 months where he must not do anything involving football.
Strange news from the Ghana camp.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/ghana-chaos-sulley-muntari-kevin-prince-boateng-suspended
That's a great disappointment. Ghana provided some excellent entertainment against Germany. Boateng's comment give the strong impression that he is the aggrieved party rathar than the coach.
Suarez got 9 games/days suspension. + 4 months where he must not do anything involving football.
of all the punts (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28020605)...had to laugh!
of all the punts (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28020605)...had to laugh!
Not the only one, apparently - and "Chewy Luis"... You gotta love that.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5529844
For all Fifa's noise in recent years about spreading football around the world, only two African teams and none from Asia have got through the group stage. EuroLAm is still where it's at.what do you suggest - positive discrimination?
Well, Brazil weren't exactly convincing. I think I know what their problem is - it's the names of their players. In the past they had great names like Pelé, Zico and Socrates. What have they got now? Fred, Jo and fucking Hulk! Rubbish!
Only an english ref would dare disallow a goal for handball like that ;D ;D
An old joke can be rewritten: what do you call an Englishman in the second round of the World Cup? ;D :P ;)
An old joke can be rewritten: what do you call an Englishman in the second round of the World Cup? ;D :P ;)
In a similar vein:-
Q. What do you call a Scots player in the 1st round of the World Cup ?
A. Not many of us are young enough to remember.
Uruguay were a bit toothless tonight 8)
An old joke can be rewritten: what do you call an Englishman in the second round of the World Cup? ;D :P ;)
In a similar vein:-
Q. What do you call a Scots player in the 1st round of the World Cup ?
A. Not many of us are young enough to remember.
Uruguay were a bit toothless tonight 8)
Very good Mr L. :D
I see you are sharp as ever.
An extremely competent punning mate of mine would have been proud of that one.
When I tell him, he'll no doubt declare it his own and we'll all hear it repeated back to us over the coming days :hand:
Uruguay were a bit toothless tonight 8)
Very good Mr L. :D
I see you are sharp as ever.
An extremely competent punning mate of mine would have been proud of that one.
When I tell him, he'll no doubt declare it his own and we'll all hear it repeated back to us over the coming days :hand:
They appeared to have had their fangs drawn by Columbia. Lacked incision up front.
I'm not sure I understand the responses to my use of the word 'English'...
An old joke can be rewritten: what do you call an Englishman in the second round of the World Cup? ;D :P ;)
In a similar vein:-
Q. What do you call a Scots player in the 1st round of the World Cup ?
A. Not many of us are young enough to remember.
Are you sure about that punchline?
No suggestion, just noticing.For all Fifa's noise in recent years about spreading football around the world, only two African teams and none from Asia have got through the group stage. EuroLAm is still where it's at.what do you suggest - positive discrimination?
Maybe going back to the golden goal system of extra time would encourage scoring?
Maybe going back to the golden goal system of extra time would encourage scoring?
It didn't though. It encouraged defending!
Golden goal, Silver Goal, toss of coin. Penalties, replay.
Actually you wonder if you might get more hi-energy finishes if there was a toss of the coin to decide a match drawn at full time!
They ought to find a better way to settle matches than penalty shoot outs. Maybe going back to the golden goal system of extra time would encourage scoring? Or maybe extra time should be played without goalkeepers?! :demon:Count the corners. Team with the most corners wins if all else is equal at the end of extra time.
Did it? Fair enough, not a good idea then.Maybe going back to the golden goal system of extra time would encourage scoring?
It didn't though. It encouraged defending!
Exactly.
Penalties are a test of footballing skill and add plenty of drama (too much drama if you are English).Hmm, a very specific skill. More a test of cool nerves (and a bit of luck).
I'd like to see implemented the suggestion of a player, starting on the centre circle, given 10 seconds to run at goal and try to score. That would really suit skillful players. Goalies would be allowed to come off their line as much as they liked.That I do like.
Perhaps you can memorise a few Kenneth Wolstenholme quotes for authenticity.;D
hmm. Interesting and promising.They ought to find a better way to settle matches than penalty shoot outs. Maybe going back to the golden goal system of extra time would encourage scoring? Or maybe extra time should be played without goalkeepers?! :demon:Count the corners. Team with the most corners wins if all else is equal at the end of extra time.
It works in hockey.
I have provided scones with Tiptree Jam and Clotted Cream for my landlady and landlord so they feel suitably British as they watch Germany play football.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:I have provided scones with Tiptree Jam and Clotted Cream for my landlady and landlord so they feel suitably British as they watch Germany play football.
For an authentic experience, hopefully Germany will lose on penalties ;D
What happened to the Algerian guy with the nasty-looking dressing on his head?He is still playing, I think.
Having sailed to Denmatk on 12th June and not bothered with it at all, is it all over yet?Some people think it is.
Not if you're German ;-)
Tim Howard - beard of the tournament?
Now the Round of 16 is over and having seen the quality in them, can it be safely said that we were very lucky to have been spared the embarrassment of England being in them?
Now the Round of 16 is over and having seen the quality in them, can it be safely said that we were very lucky to have been spared the embarrassment of England being in them?
I don't think luck was involved.
Good effort by the USA but it really was all effort.
With England out it I can just enjoy each match for what it is.
Penalty shootouts are no way to settle a tournament. At an international level, no one's going to miss a target 7.32 metres wide. Penalty shootouts are instead more a test of how well a magic sponge man can palm a couple of beta blockers to a nervous sweeper than actual footballing skill.That's rather crude. Surely they must have developed a way of dissolving the beta blockers in the magic sponge water and getting it absorbed directly through the skin?
I thought I'd seen on text that that was the first semi: Brazil v Germany. Maybe not?
It seems that one of the Brazilian key players is out with a fractured vertebra.bloody hell; yes indeed, Neymar is out of the tournament.
But the cynical violent challenge that injured Neymar was horrendous
Come on Costa Rica.
Like the USA, I love their teamwork and effort.
Make no mistake, so do I.
And it's hard to like Robben. He's an immensely frustrating footballer - completely brilliant, but such a diver.
I dunno about a blood bath
I'm really hoping for a Germany-Holland final as then I'd be happy whichever team won and I could go and experience the happy celebrations by bike in the relevant country!
Holland need to lose again after their appalling display in the last final.
Holland need to lose again after their appalling display in the last final.
That was like a coordinated physical assault of the Spanish team wasn't it?
poor defence by Brazil?
:o :o+ :o
I can see the Brazilians getting, erm, a bit physical, though I hope not.
Was that brilliant by Germany or poor defence by Brazil?
I can see the Brazilians getting, erm, a bit physical, though I hope not.
I think it's a bit late for that.
At 0-2 down I can see that physicality might be useful, but at 0-5.....it's a lost cause
The beauty for the Germans is that, at 30 mins into the game, 0-5 up, they can make substitutions and rest before the final.
They're going to take a lot of shifting now.
Auntie Helen's been quiet. What's it like in Germany now?I'm on my own here (the Germans I live with are at the Ice Rink group showing). I think there will be some sore heads tomorrow.
0:6 At least this isn't the final.It's pretty bloody damn final for Brazil!
Mixed emotions there, I think ;)Auntie Helen's been quiet. What's it like in Germany now?I'm on my own here (the Germans I live with are at the Ice Rink group showing). I think there will be some sore heads tomorrow.
However, this was Poppy's expression at 5-0
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1926865_10152129416351786_6328864176730389029_n.jpg)
She has slept through the subsequent two goals.
Brazil only need 2 tries to win.
Do the Brazilians have a phrase like "Gutted " or "Sick as a parrot" ?
Hoping for a Germany:Argentina final. Sorry Holland.
A New York Times article in 2002 cited a number of scientific studies of schadenfreude, which it defined as, "delighting in others' misfortune". Many such studies are based on social comparison theory, the idea that when people around us have bad luck, we look better to ourselves. Other researchers have found that people with low self-esteem are more likely to feel schadenfreude than are people who have high self-esteem.[30]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude#Scientific_studies
A 2003 study examined intergroup schadenfreude within the context of sports, specifically an international football (soccer) competition. The study focused on the German and Dutch football teams and their fans. The results of this study indicated that the emotion of schadenfreude is very sensitive to circumstances that make it more or less legitimate to feel such malicious pleasure towards a sports rival.
Wir nennen das Schadenfreude... was für ein Gemetzel. Wie ist so etwas möglich?
QuoteA New York Times article in 2002 cited a number of scientific studies of schadenfreude, which it defined as, "delighting in others' misfortune". Many such studies are based on social comparison theory, the idea that when people around us have bad luck, we look better to ourselves. Other researchers have found that people with low self-esteem are more likely to feel schadenfreude than are people who have high self-esteem.[30]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude#Scientific_studies
A 2003 study examined intergroup schadenfreude within the context of sports, specifically an international football (soccer) competition. The study focused on the German and Dutch football teams and their fans. The results of this study indicated that the emotion of schadenfreude is very sensitive to circumstances that make it more or less legitimate to feel such malicious pleasure towards a sports rival.
German links with both Brazil and Argentina make for a complex emotional setting. A Germany/ Netherlands final would be simpler. We could all join in with the chanting asking for our bikes back. Mind you, if you want a job doing well, we know who to ask.
A facebook exchange with a Bavarian friend.QuoteWir nennen das Schadenfreude... was für ein Gemetzel. Wie ist so etwas möglich?
I think Freudenschade is the right word. Not so much a guilty joy, as a guilt about such ruthless efficiency in a setting which should cause joy.
It's an ill wind though, Triumph will be selling a lot more motorbikes in Brazil than BMW, especially as Triumph have a plant in Manaus.
A facebook exchange with a Bavarian friend.QuoteWir nennen das Schadenfreude... was für ein Gemetzel. Wie ist so etwas möglich?
I think Freudenschade is the right word. Not so much a guilty joy, as a guilt about such ruthless efficiency in a setting which should cause joy.
It's an ill wind though, Triumph will be selling a lot more motorbikes in Brazil than BMW, especially as Triumph have a plant in Manaus.
Yes, but Brazil didn't Triumph.
A facebook exchange with a Bavarian friend.QuoteWir nennen das Schadenfreude... was für ein Gemetzel. Wie ist so etwas möglich?
I think Freudenschade is the right word. Not so much a guilty joy, as a guilt about such ruthless efficiency in a setting which should cause joy.
It's an ill wind though, Triumph will be selling a lot more motorbikes in Brazil than BMW, especially as Triumph have a plant in Manaus.
Yes, but Brazil didn't Triumph.
That's enough of that, Sunbeam..
I can't stand this pointless possession in which multiple passes end up with the ball being taken back into the team's own half. It's boring and it is asking for trouble.And yet here you are...still watching :-)
I can't stand this pointless possession in which multiple passes end up with the ball being taken back into the team's own half. It's boring and it is asking for trouble.And yet here you are...still watching :-)
I thought there would have been a minute's silence tonight for Di Stefano. There wasn't one last night, was there? I missed the start, and googling is getting me nowhere amongst all the weeping about the result.
The Argentinian manager seems to have aged about ten years during the match.
I can see the final presenting a great many people in this country with a bit of a dilemma as to which team to cheer on. :demon:
I think he's top poster on this thread. A proper footy fan :thumbsup:I can't stand this pointless possession in which multiple passes end up with the ball being taken back into the team's own half. It's boring and it is asking for trouble.And yet here you are...still watching :-)
Interestingly enough, I didn't realize [until I looked it up during the game] that the Dutch have never won the WC. I thought they had. They've been in three finals and have lost every one. I like the way we [the English] do it - one final:one win [never to be seen again] :-)
Interestingly enough, I didn't realize [until I looked it up during the game] that the Dutch have never won the WC. I thought they had. They've been in three finals and have lost every one. I like the way we [the English] do it - one final:one win [never to be seen again] :-)
Odd isn't it for the inventors of "total football". Massively successful in club internationals (Ajax) but never won the World Cup. Mind you the Spanish were more successful with "tika-taka" which is a direct development of "total-football" pioneered by Johan Cruyff when he was manager of Barca.
I wouldn't claim to be an expert but West Germany used to be good. Haven't heard much about them lately. Could it be their year again at last?
Help, is Putin going to put the Iron Curtain back up :o
If it's all square at the end of extra time, count the corners. The team with the most wins.
I guess it's kinda like 'Lerv' so Lurrve isn't so bad.
Maybe I'll ask a few locals to say it to me and find out if they are consistent.
I think you are right, but the player should have been sent off.Yes exactly.
Did anyone else think the penalty in yesterday's game seemed undeserved? It looked to me as if it happened just outside the penalty area.
How do the English commentators pronounce Höwedes? Here it is "hoe-ved-ez"
3-0 Germany.
IMO.
See the start of the thread for my earlier predictions.
Those last 3 minutes were the longest 3 minutes since chemistry at school :)
Interesting contrast to the two managers: Argentina's looked like he'd had become a zombie (or even a zombi?) before the match started, while Germany's looks like the last of the 80s playboys!
Oh, and Hodgson, who is half man and half barn owl.
One from the Graun, a gallery of photos from previous World Cups:Yeah, if British sailors celebrated with North Koreans now, they'd all end up in Guantanagulag!
http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2014/jul/05/world-cup-25-of-the-best-photographs-ever
The sailor and the North Koreans at Ayrsome Park is lovely, but there's no beating the Franco Baresi shot. The Argentinians look far more defeated tonight.
1-0 to whichever side then.Or penalties.
Do you think the FA has the clout to thwart the intentions of the money-grubbing clubs?
Another, possibly crucial difference is that nearly all top tier German clubs are largely owned by the fans and as such are actually run as clubs rather than poorly-maintained BigCos. Young talent is encouraged and ticket prices kept low. An adult can't get into Stamford Bridge for less than forty quid (if s/he actually wants to watch the game rather than a concrete pillar); a Several of Bundesliga clubs charge less than a tenner. A Premier Leauge spokesdroid has said that ticket prices are "about right". Bayern's chairman has said that fans "are not a cash cow" ???Astonishing.
Spain didn't do so well.Oh how naive I have been. Clearly England must be a better side than Spain, and the Premiership is the model every other nation should aspire to.
Spain didn't do so well.Oh how naive I have been. Clearly England must be a better side than Spain, and the Premiership is the model every other nation should aspire to.
Cheers :thumbsup:
England fall to 20th in World rankings.I've removed the bullshit from your post.
I think that's probably about right, although all the teams between 20th and 40th are probably about the same, so we may just as well be 40th, it just means we're "sort of average".
Spainwere "humiliated" but theyscored 6 goals and got 3 points.
We scored 2 goals and got 1 point.
So, doing some fairly basic algebra, where humiliated = h and England = E: E=3h.
England fall to 20th in World rankings.I've removed the bullshit from your post.
I think that's probably about right, although all the teams between 20th and 40th are probably about the same, so we may just as well be 40th, it just means we're "sort of average".
Spainwere "humiliated" but theyscored 6 goals and got 3 points.
We scored 2 goals and got 1 point.
So, doing some fairly basic algebra, where humiliated = h and England = E: E=3h.
I'd add that Spain are still ranked 8th - which is probably about right.
I've removed the bullshit from your post.