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Title: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 August, 2020, 03:43:19 pm
The Netherlands Bach Society has a project to record every work composed by Johann Sebastian Bach and post them to Youtube.

The performances are invariably of the highest standard. Here's the latest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRtOLw8rERo&pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=--_pxYiXWOJz86m6%3A6
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 August, 2020, 07:21:02 pm
Nice! That's a big project.

On a related note Lang Lang has a double recording of the Goldberg Variations coming out in September. One disc is a studio version and the other was recorded in the Thomaskirche in one take. I'm looking forward to this a lot.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 August, 2020, 09:35:17 pm
My biggest problem with Lang Lang is the gurning. It would be good to see inside the Thomaskirche though.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 August, 2020, 09:50:20 pm
My biggest problem with Lang Lang is the gurning. It would be good to see inside the Thomaskirche though.

It's on my bucket list. More of a possabilty since I finally persuaded Mrs Pcolbeck to visit Germany last year and she liked it :)
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 01 September, 2020, 04:29:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzBXZ__LN_M&pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=cDHXEXqCQTPEOsgb%3A6

Passacaglia in C minor.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Peter on 01 September, 2020, 06:45:58 pm
I thought you already had a caglia ?
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Auntie Helen on 01 September, 2020, 08:00:36 pm
My biggest problem with Lang Lang is the gurning. It would be good to see inside the Thomaskirche though.

It's on my bucket list. More of a possabilty since I finally persuaded Mrs Pcolbeck to visit Germany last year and she liked it :)
We visited a few years back and went to their equivalent of Evening Prayer. Heard some wonderful Bach!
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 September, 2020, 02:52:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC8UErdK_XE&pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=gg1_KKCKE-eLHQk9%3A6

Cantata Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich

I sang in this at last year's Bach Choral Course at St. Andrew's Uni.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Peter on 03 September, 2020, 08:35:19 pm
Terrific, P, thank you!  This is early in Bach's career; do you detect a trace of Schutz's Christmas History here and there?  I love the discords in the strings in the Prelude and there is a refreshing lack of vibrato in the singing.  Nice to see Mark Cavendish singing bass - I've missed him in this year's Tour!
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 28 September, 2020, 10:37:30 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5INRyT3XYg&pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=pUoohOqkiWyBBCkk%3A6&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

I really like the way that the Netherlands Bach Society put out a short explanatory video before the work they are about to play. Shunske Sato seems to be their top man when it comes to violin playing.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Peter on 28 September, 2020, 10:47:05 am
Excellent, thank you.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: hellymedic on 28 September, 2020, 05:34:54 pm
My biggest problem with Lang Lang is the gurning. It would be good to see inside the Thomaskirche though.

D visited it when he went to Leipzig a few years ago.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: CommuteTooFar on 28 September, 2020, 08:05:12 pm
I have never enjoyed Bach as much as I should so I will not comment on it.

I am more a Lisztomaniac.  Ten years ago or so the Pianist/Scholar Leslie Howard gave himself the task to record the complete piano works of liszt.  And I have bought it twice once on CD and once on FLAC.  I can not fault Mr Howard's effort but I have other recordings of some of this material that I much prefer to listen to. I expect this Bach survey might suffer from the same problems.

There are other problem complete surveys. A less illustrious series of recordings were/are being made of the complete Johann Strauss II waltzes by Naxos.  Some are CDs are very good and some performances are dreary.

 
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: pcolbeck on 29 September, 2020, 08:23:43 pm
I have never enjoyed Bach as much as I should so I will not comment on it.

You do not enjoy Bach, it invades your soul.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 October, 2020, 10:58:35 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC8UErdK_XE&pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=gg1_KKCKE-eLHQk9%3A6

Cantata Nach dir, Herr, verlanget mich

I sang in this at last year's Bach Choral Course at St. Andrew's Uni.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPdh0loM2yM&ab_channel=VOCES8

Another performance of the same work, arguably off-topic as it's not part of the "All of Bach" project. But it's stunning.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: drgannet on 02 October, 2020, 11:23:36 am
I discovered this over the summer when looking for some Bach harpsichord music. The performances are superb and I like the locations selected from all over Netherlands, including small farmhouses. Sato, as you say, is rather good.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 07 October, 2020, 12:31:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnFPOm0kwdI&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=K3QfyL7ZehZrPUmr%3A6&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

A major prelude & fugue from Book 1, recorded in someone's front room.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 October, 2020, 02:52:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVsTgzCzMgA&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=Sh0fE1qmzs6-uQ4t%3A6&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Is there a collective noun for harpsichords?
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: hellymedic on 13 October, 2020, 03:49:07 pm
Goldberg Variations imminent (16.00 13/10/20) St Mary's Perivale.
https://st-marys-perivale.us13.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f5f2985eec0c6c83db8cc471e&id=53ce52ffdf&e=1285e54ec8 (https://st-marys-perivale.us13.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f5f2985eec0c6c83db8cc471e&id=53ce52ffdf&e=1285e54ec8)
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 25 October, 2020, 09:58:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJ9skYNa4s&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Bach's works for solo stringed instrument are amongst the most haunting of all music. The cello suites are probably the best-known, but there was a whole load of other stuff as well.

I'm learning an arrangement (by Frans Bruggen) of this movement for alto recorder. I'd like to hear it played by a good recorder player - it needs to be at a pretty rapid tempo to give the best effect, and I think the violinist in the performance does a great job.

Edit: found one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G0Yh3wg3js&ab_channel=RiqueBorges

Bolette Roed is a very fine player.

Edit: the piece I'm learning is about 15 minutes in. She seems to be playing it on a soprano recorder with A=415 pitch, transposed up a 5th. I'm learning it on an alto.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 26 November, 2020, 09:40:32 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q091agFLRd0&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=-27y8s4w18GPkn2C%3A6&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

One of my favourites of all Bach's compositions.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: andrewc on 20 December, 2020, 11:12:32 pm
https://twitter.com/scott_kerr/status/1340399932893782019?s=20


Not your normal Bach recital. 
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: hellymedic on 21 December, 2020, 02:31:26 am
https://twitter.com/scott_kerr/status/1340399932893782019?s=20
Not your normal Bach recital.

Amazing!

I think I've seen & heard this before.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 January, 2021, 10:20:06 am
Not part of the Netherlands Bach Society series, but a recent Bach recital but Andras Schiff at the Wigmore Hall.

He starts off wth one of the earliest-known pieces of Bach's music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GodEbd-GhLg&ab_channel=WigmoreHall

Edit: I posted before I listened. About half-way through now. He's giving a little lecture before each piece. So far he's played two piece that I have learned to one degree or another - the F minor sinfonia and the Italian concerto. Both are utterly wonderful.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 29 January, 2021, 11:25:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-XYHWWFPg&ab_channel=PeterWalker

The Andras Schiff video linked in the previous post has inspired me to practise the F minor sinfonia. It's a very strange piece and hardly made for easy listening. It's very interesting to play though - I don't know a piece of Bach that isn't. I often wonder what was going through a composer's mind when he or she is composing a piece. I think Bach must have been particularly melancholy when he wrote this one.

As Schiff mentioned, the Inventions and Sinfonias (there are 15 of each, sometimes called two-part inventions and three part inventions) are all contrapuntal pieces composed around 1720 with the view to teaching his two oldest sons, Carl Philip Emanuel and Wilhelm Friedmann. I think they tend to get overlooked rather, possibly because of the reason he composed them. I never learned any of these until relatively recently, although I played quite a bit of Bach in my youth. I think I spent too much time studying for exams and not enough expanding my repertoire, but I suppose that's the price you pay for wanting to do O and A level music. Some of them are much more tuneful and dance-like than this one.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 December, 2022, 10:40:20 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN5Tt7SAhzg&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Jesu Meine Freude.

I sang in this at the last Bach Choral Course in St. Andrews in 2019. The Southend Bach Choir will be singing it next term. It's yet another masterpiece amongst so many.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: pcolbeck on 05 December, 2022, 11:54:25 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN5Tt7SAhzg&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Jesu Meine Freude.

I sang in this at the last Bach Choral Course in St. Andrews in 2019. The Southend Bach Choir will be singing it next term. It's yet another masterpiece amongst so many.

Thanks WoW. That's a great performance and what lovely acoustics in the Grote Kerk.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 December, 2022, 12:16:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSwLeKWKtis&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

The A minor violin concerto. This is a sublime performance.

I've been learning an arrangement of the first movement for alto recorder, by James Howard Young. It's pretty faithful to the original, but the music occasionally rises where the vioin part falls as the recorder's range isn's as great as the violin's. It's surprisingly approachable for a duffer like me.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 21 February, 2023, 11:37:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN5Tt7SAhzg&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Jesu Meine Freude.

I sang in this at the last Bach Choral Course in St. Andrews in 2019. The Southend Bach Choir will be singing it next term. It's yet another masterpiece amongst so many.

Bump. We are really getting to grips with this. Concert on 13th May. We are also singing the Beethoven Mass in C major.

https://www.southendbachchoir.org.uk/concerts
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2023, 09:39:03 pm
Wim Kok has just replied to a comment of mine on the Johann Sebastian Bach thread on Facebook. I suspect it's probably someone other than the former PM of the Netherlands, who died in 2018.
Title: Re: All of Bach
Post by: Wowbagger on 08 October, 2023, 07:40:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quYd7qJzsAE&ab_channel=NetherlandsBachSociety

Wonderful performance!