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Title: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 February, 2021, 09:15:06 am
Is there a thread for haemorrhoids here?

Asking for a friend...  ;)

I've He's had a short episode before, which cleared up of its own accord, but in the past couple of days I've he's had a little marble-sized one make an appearance.  It's not especially painful, not especially itchy and it's not bleeding or anything, but it's not comfortable by any means.  I am He is an otherwise fit and healthy 39 year old - only thing is I have he has some quite prominent varicose veins in my his legs (not quite Sean Yates, but getting that way).

My His diet is generally good and balanced - plenty of fruit and veg, Shreddies and muesli for breakfast, brown bread etc...

What's the best way of nipping this little problem in the bud?  Any particularly recommended ointments?  I'm He's happy to go to my his GP if need be, but it'd be more straightforward if I he could get something over the counter...
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Regulator on 24 February, 2021, 10:30:42 am
Speak to your local pharmacist.

Make sure you have plenty of fibre in your diet.

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Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 February, 2021, 10:38:30 am
 :o

Believe me Reg, even if that were something I'd normally entertain, it's the last thing I'd be wanting to do now!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Beardy on 24 February, 2021, 10:51:53 am
Speak to your local pharmacist.

Make sure you have plenty of fibre in your diet.

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Surely that needs to be narrowed down some because I can foresee a situation, say between husband and wife, where the husband is not going to benefit from such an approach.  O:-)
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: T42 on 24 February, 2021, 10:54:52 am
+1 for the pharmacist.  In the meantime, consult 1 Samuel 5 & ff.

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You haven't carried off any arks recently, have you?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Canardly on 24 February, 2021, 10:59:47 am
Soft dried Prunes.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: T42 on 24 February, 2021, 01:23:16 pm
Little marble?

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Aw, I'm sorry, Legs. Been there myself and it's not fun. So much so that I can still remember the patio table I was building at the time, and eating spaghetti carbonara at it on hard folding chairs. And the pharmacy lady asking "c'est pour rétrécir un hémorroïde?" out loud in front of three or four customers in response to my discreet inquiry.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 24 February, 2021, 02:17:07 pm
Plenty of fruit and fibre.
MORE WATER and fluids in the diet.
Regular sleep, meal and bowel routine.

Whatever the pharmacist suggests.

I've lived with mine
Since I was nine

And never seen a doctor about them
HDV, aged 62.7.

I've also been acquainted with I Samuel 5 for a long time...
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Hot Flatus on 24 February, 2021, 02:18:45 pm
:o

Believe me Reg, even if that were something I'd normally entertain, it's the last thing I'd be wanting to do now!

If you go to your doctor about them there's always a danger he/she might prescribe an evening with Regulator   :demon:
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 24 February, 2021, 02:30:12 pm
We were taught at medical skule ALWAYS to examine EVERYONE who bleeds from the tail end with a 'scope.

So I never saw a doctor.

I was routinely scoped at 55 and nobody commented about the farmer. They found a polyp higher up though.

I managed to avoid my farmers tainting my poo sticks at 60 and 62 with judicious prune, fig and apricot ingestion.
(Peaches, cherries and mangoes are also helpful...)
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 February, 2021, 02:46:19 pm
Picked up some Anusol at Tesco without having to make a discreet enquiry of the pharmacist (also: praise be for self-checkouts).  Feeling a bit better already.  :thumbsup:

I'm going to get cracking on the figs... nomnomnom...
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: T42 on 24 February, 2021, 02:52:19 pm
:thumbsup:

Anusol isn't exactly subtle, is it?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 February, 2021, 02:53:46 pm
According to the adverts, it's pronounced ANN-yew-sol  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Hot Flatus on 24 February, 2021, 02:56:04 pm
I buy it from Aldi for Mdm Flatus, but its an own brand called R-sol
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Regulator on 24 February, 2021, 03:56:08 pm
Speak to your local pharmacist.

Make sure you have plenty of fibre in your diet.

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Surely that needs to be narrowed down some because I can foresee a situation, say between husband and wife, where the husband is not going to benefit from such an approach.  O:-)


So you haven't explored the delights of pegging...

(DO NOT google that whilst at work).
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: citoyen on 24 February, 2021, 03:57:19 pm
Surely that needs to be narrowed down some because I can foresee a situation, say between husband and wife, where the husband is not going to benefit from such an approach.  O:-)

You lack imagination.

[ETA: cross-posted with Reg, but basically that's what I was thinking of]
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Hot Flatus on 24 February, 2021, 04:12:24 pm
Eww.

All sounds like the sort of thing Edwina Currie would do to John Major.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Polar Bear on 24 February, 2021, 04:19:31 pm
I had the pleasure of needing to buy some for an elderly relative recently.  I had to ask of course because I would never have found it on the shelves.

Worse, I know the lady behind the counter in the chemist shop socially.

It had to be done.  No point really trying the "it's for .... " as they've heard that a million times if they've heard it once!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: citoyen on 24 February, 2021, 05:17:59 pm
Eww.

All sounds like the sort of thing Edwina Currie would do to John Major.

A young colleague once told me that her boyfriend let her do it to him. I can't remember if it was her idea or his, but she said that afterwards she found she couldn't respect him any more and had to end the relationship.

A lesson for us all.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Lightning Phil on 24 February, 2021, 06:33:47 pm
Eww.

All sounds like the sort of thing Edwina Currie would do to John Major.

A young colleague once told me that her boyfriend let her do it to him. I can't remember if it was her idea or his, but she said that afterwards she found she couldn't respect him any more and had to end the relationship.

A lesson for us all.

Was her boyfriend  Simon Pegg?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 February, 2021, 07:00:55 pm
Oi!  My bottom hurts!  You've all hijacked my thread!  Go and have your fun elsewhere!  :D
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 24 February, 2021, 07:45:54 pm
Here?
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6277493,-0.5632636,3a,75y,23h,89.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI0AOmZXpjdn34Jn_AYDoiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6277493,-0.5632636,3a,75y,23h,89.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI0AOmZXpjdn34Jn_AYDoiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: FifeingEejit on 24 February, 2021, 07:59:32 pm
:o

Believe me Reg, even if that were something I'd normally entertain, it's the last thing I'd be wanting to do now!

If you go to your doctor about them there's always a danger he/she might prescribe an evening with Regulator   :demon:

Or if not that,
Possibly a digital examination or two.

Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Kim on 25 February, 2021, 12:15:07 am
I had the pleasure of needing to buy some for an elderly relative recently.  I had to ask of course because I would never have found it on the shelves.

Worse, I know the lady behind the counter in the chemist shop socially.

It had to be done.  No point really trying the "it's for .... " as they've heard that a million times if they've heard it once!

The only reasonable thing to do is to go for the full "IT'S FOR MY BLEEDING ARSE!" stage-whisper approach.  That way you get the entertainment factor of everyone BRITISHLY pretending not to hear it.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Andy W on 25 February, 2021, 06:14:09 am
Yup, Anusol and Germaloids great descriptive names for said products. As a wind up l leave the (new) tubes by the toothpaste on a shelf in my ensuite. Awaits howls from my nosey kids. Got to be  on your game at 6am though
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: QFour on 25 February, 2021, 12:32:27 pm
You can always consult the NHS

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/piles-haemorrhoids/
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 25 February, 2021, 04:52:28 pm
Poke them back in? Really. Yuk. Think it's probably a bit too late for that anyway.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 25 February, 2021, 04:59:15 pm
IIRC There are grades of prolapsing piles.

It is best to pop them back if possible.

If they stay out and can't be replaced it can get nasty.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 25 February, 2021, 05:07:08 pm
 :-\

If it's been like that for over a year it is still worth it?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 25 February, 2021, 05:25:26 pm
Unlikely to be possible.

Might be best to Seek Medical Advice but I'm not sure I'd bother if I were mostly untroubled.

I suppose iPhone pic and Remote Consultation might be a workable suggestion.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: ian on 25 February, 2021, 05:26:26 pm
Eww.

All sounds like the sort of thing Edwina Currie would do to John Major.

A young colleague once told me that her boyfriend let her do it to him. I can't remember if it was her idea or his, but she said that afterwards she found she couldn't respect him any more and had to end the relationship.

A lesson for us all.

A friend of mine once explained that her boyfriend (subsequently ex-ed) was game for this activity, far keener than she to indulge, so finally, she acceded to his pestering. To facilitate the activity, she visited an online retailer of sexual accoutrements and let's just say she ordered large. Apparently, his enthusiasm for the activity didn't stretch to an entire twelve inches of ribbed silicone.

In other news, this thread makes me very happy about my anus.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Hot Flatus on 25 February, 2021, 05:30:25 pm
It is best to pop them back if possible.




And, unless I'm very much mistaken, Regulator is offering his services and considerable expertise.

 I think Legs should take him up on his offer. It's not gay, its a medical procedure.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Kim on 25 February, 2021, 05:31:23 pm
A young colleague once told me that her boyfriend let her do it to him. I can't remember if it was her idea or his, but she said that afterwards she found she couldn't respect him any more and had to end the relationship.

A lesson for us all.

That heterosexuals can be really weird sometimes?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 25 February, 2021, 05:36:15 pm
Unlikely to be possible.

Might be best to Seek Medical Advice but I'm not sure I'd bother if I were mostly untroubled.

Fair enough.  If I'd known that then I would have given it a go, I didn't think there was a lot to be done about them but clearly I was wrong. It's not been too much bother since it initially appeared (which was a bit unpleasant).
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: citoyen on 25 February, 2021, 05:46:56 pm
That heterosexuals can be really weird sometimes?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 25 February, 2021, 06:38:10 pm
I suppose iPhone pic and Remote Consultation might be a workable suggestion.

No-one deserves to see a pic of my beleaguered ringpiece!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Hot Flatus on 25 February, 2021, 06:45:25 pm
Pumpé's Ear
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 25 February, 2021, 06:48:34 pm
I suppose iPhone pic and Remote Consultation might be a workable suggestion.

No-one deserves to see a pic of my beleaguered ringpiece!

You prefer face to place?
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: ian on 25 February, 2021, 06:48:46 pm
Probably best to check whether or not you have 'family sharing' enabled for your photos before attempting any photographic self-examination.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Beardy on 26 February, 2021, 12:33:59 am
.
A lesson for us all.

That heterosexuals people can be really weird sometimes?
IFTFY
 8)
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: McWheels on 01 March, 2021, 10:08:21 pm
What the OP is describing was at first ameliorated by the prescribed ointments, and then cured by something with a seat vs a saddle. My posterior, perenium and I couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 15 August, 2021, 08:28:42 pm
I finally got round to making an appointment with my GP for a consultation.  He’s going to be video-calling me tomorrow… I don’t know if he’s going to want me to aim my iPhone towards my tailpipe, or call me in for a face-to-face, but that’s one call that the Kremlin wouldn’t be wanting to intercept!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: jiberjaber on 15 August, 2021, 10:36:12 pm
LOL - I had the same, they eventually arranged a consultant visit, which they screwed up by being by phone, after 3 months later I finally got a face 2 face appointment and I'm going under the knife on Friday.... first operation in my life but I am sure it'll be OK - I'm looking forward to being released from my agony since October! 
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 23 August, 2021, 11:12:10 am
Hope that your op went well, jiberjaber!  10 months of agony sounds like a bad case.  By contrast, I don't think mine are at all bad as farmers go - just a single grape that occasionally needs attention.

I had a face-to-face with my GP last Monday and he gave the thumbs-up to the fingers-up approach.  GP (who has a lot of experience in performing pile-banding operations) recommended using Sudocrem in the sore area, and (spoiler for the squeamish)
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I don't know whether it's coincidence, but after 6 months of itchiness and soreness, I've felt a marked improvement just in this last week.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: jiberjaber on 23 August, 2021, 12:29:19 pm
OP went OK - was far better than I expected in terms of it was the first OP I've ever had. 
I think the surgeon must have opened up and climbed in judging by the bruises.

It was a polyp that was removed, about 2-3 inches long from what I remember of the conversation in the recovery room though no idea if it was just one or more. I've got a fair bit of stitching up there as a result. It's off for a biopsy and I've a follow up consultation in a couple of weeks so I'll get the details then, unfortunately I don't think I'll get it back to keep (there was talk of sending it to Pritti Patel as a gift! LOL) .

Recovery going OK but not back on the bike yet, before the OP the Consultant said I should be able to ride after the weekend but on discharge I was getting a telling off from the staff nurse for even considering it.

I was due to ride on a course tomorrow but I've just cancelled to give the internals more time to heal!

It does feel like I am on the mend though and in a better position that I was pre-OP with everything down there, just needs time to heal now..
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 23 August, 2021, 12:52:02 pm
Glad you're on the mend.
Follow-up for polyps often means a colonoscopy.

The 'Poo Sticks' thread might inform.

Get well soon!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 23 August, 2021, 12:59:13 pm
Good to hear, jiberjaber.  Keep on mendin'!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 23 August, 2021, 01:22:07 pm
Good to hear it went well.  I would listen to the surgeon about getting back on the bike. Nurses tend to be very conservative
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: hellymedic on 23 August, 2021, 04:39:00 pm
Personally, I would listen to my bottom before any well-intentioned advice from Others  ;)
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 23 August, 2021, 10:43:00 pm
Personally, I would listen to my bottom before any well-intentioned advice from Others  ;)
Indeed: in the words of Scandi popular beat combo Roxette, “listen to your arse, there’s nothing else you can do…”
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Gattopardo on 23 August, 2021, 11:03:16 pm
Personally, I would listen to my bottom before any well-intentioned advice from Others  ;)
Indeed: in the words of Scandi popular beat combo Roxette, “listen to your arse, there’s nothing else you can do…”

I hate you

Now I have an ear worm.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: Legs on 24 August, 2021, 06:27:12 am
 ;D I aim to please!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: T42 on 24 August, 2021, 09:42:16 am
@jibberjabber, good healing.
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: jiberjaber on 24 August, 2021, 10:21:29 am
Ta  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: rogerzilla on 29 September, 2021, 08:21:35 am
I am also currently suffering a bout of Emmas.  Bizarrely, these came on in the middle of the night and can't be traced to a 40 minute peruse of Exchange & Mart on the chodbin.  Haven't had them for ages.

First attack of the chalfonts was when I was 26 and had to dig up some very heavy fence posts encased in concrete.

https://youtu.be/2EFo4MDLmRY
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: jiberjaber on 29 September, 2021, 04:17:13 pm
I'm not clicking that link  ;D

In related news, I had my post op meeting with the consultant - there were 2 removed, 5cm and 3cm long both came back normal which was a relief - a few more months of recovery but I've since had a few rides of circa 50km or so with only mild discomfort - improving every day though  :thumbsup: if only I could say the same about my endurance!
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: rogerzilla on 29 September, 2021, 06:11:19 pm
Let's just say the song in the link (no pictures, honest) contains the line "like a blue rubber glove filled with conkers"  ;D
Title: Re: Troublesome farmer
Post by: jiberjaber on 29 September, 2021, 06:18:31 pm
Let's just say the song in the link (no pictures, honest) contains the line "like a blue rubber glove filled with conkers"  ;D

LOL - top tip about tea leaves there!