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Title: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 07 April, 2021, 08:18:38 am
'From Homecare.  Your washing machine cover has ended, would you like to renew?' 
Yep, it's a scam.
Passed on the 'senior supervisor'.
I let them go through all options, as I ramble on about forgeting where I bought the w/m etc.
Later, senior supervisor... 'so would you like the cover or not'  in an annoyed voice...  ;D 
Me.  'No thanks'.  They hang up before I finished speaking.

The only people who phone on the land line these days are scammers, and our parents.   I suppose it makes a change from the 'PC Eventviewer' scam.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: giropaul on 07 April, 2021, 09:53:07 am
The current biggest issue for me is that Covid jab booking calls come from numbers I don’t recognise- so I’m more likely to answer until #2 is booked.
Yesterday’s scam was a promised refund for my solar panels. I told him I was delighted with them, they were so unobtrusive I couldn’t actually see them.
I have a friend who runs a charity whose current entertainment is stringing scammers along.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rogerzilla on 07 April, 2021, 04:17:23 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: nuttycyclist on 07 April, 2021, 04:28:50 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.

I held one on the line for ten minutes while "my computer" turned on (it was an interesting TV programme I was watching).  He then asked me what operating system it was, so I said Windows 95.  He put me on hold for 15 minutes before coming back and apologising that he didn't have a patch for me. 
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ravenbait on 07 April, 2021, 04:30:27 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.

I held one on the line for ten minutes while "my computer" turned on (it was an interesting TV programme I was watching).  He then asked me what operating system it was, so I said Windows 95.  He put me on hold for 15 minutes before coming back and apologising that he didn't have a patch for me.

I did that once but said Windows 3.1 and they hung up.

Sam
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 April, 2021, 06:16:42 pm
Robo-Amazon says I've spent £400 on a JesusPhone 7.  I wish I could afford to spend £400 on an obsolete JesusPhone, so then I wouldn’t.

Then there was A Real Person who wanted to talk to me about my washing machine insewerants, of which I have none.  Sadly he hung up before I could tell him to [“go away” – The Invigilator] :'(
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Bledlow on 08 April, 2021, 06:21:45 pm
I've had several phone calls recently about the manufacturer's warranties on my washing machine & fridge having ended.

Both are new, the first bought in late February.

The scammers can't tell me what make, model or who I bought them from, of course.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 08 April, 2021, 06:25:31 pm
Which? magazine are on the case of some appliance scams (https://conversation.which.co.uk/scams/dyson-v10-loyalty-program-phishing-email/?utm_source=whichcouk&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=scamalert080421).
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 08 April, 2021, 06:30:02 pm
If I get a phone call on my landline I say nothing, until a real person responds. I suspect
scammers have voice-activated software. If you don't say anything, after about 15 seconds
you'll receive the following automated message: "The other person has cleared". When I get
these I dial 1471 to get the number and add it to action fraud (https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-phishing).
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 08 April, 2021, 06:38:26 pm
I do the same in not speaking. If it is a recorded "This the blah blah office" I give them a continuous selection of key presses.

It was more fun in the old days with real people. I think I've reported here being asked if I knew Bill Gates, what with me using a version of Windows that isn't even out yet. (3.1, natch).
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 April, 2021, 06:40:55 pm
Which? magazine are on the case of some appliance scams (https://conversation.which.co.uk/scams/dyson-v10-loyalty-program-phishing-email/?utm_source=whichcouk&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=scamalert080421).

Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) has had a handful of “Dyson” e-mails but they go into the bit bucket pretty sharpish.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jurek on 08 April, 2021, 08:01:28 pm
I've had a several of calls purporting to be from Amazon, to my landline.
They're a recorded message, inevitably to do with some item I have recently purchased, which has been recalled and I am entitled to a full refund (or some such yarn) if only I press '1'.
As Amazon don't have and have never had my landline number, I decline their generous invitation and hang up.
In fact, because of the large number of calls like this to my landline, I've taken to not answering it.
I can always 1471-it, and it is easy enough to subsequently check whether it is a number that is known to me.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Peter on 08 April, 2021, 08:11:15 pm
Huh, you're no fun snd I'm not ringing you anymore - even to tell you about the lottery win that's here waiting only for you to tell me your bank details.  Your loss not mine.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 08 April, 2021, 08:13:33 pm
We’re very grateful for our call blocking phone on the landline. Any number not “white listed” need the caller to respond and announce themselves. We don’t get nuisance calls.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jurek on 08 April, 2021, 08:20:14 pm
I have TPS on my phone.
Unfortunately it doesn't cover overseas numbers or (what looks like) mobile numbers - which is what all of the recent scam calls have been.
I'd like to think that in the absence of an answered call, the scammers will go looking (calling) elsewhere.

I used to receive an inordinate number of scam calls to my mobile - the numbers of which I would duly block.
I don't think I've had  scam call to my mobile for at least a couple of years, probably longer.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: robgul on 08 April, 2021, 09:23:49 pm
I often ask if we can cut to the chase and give them my bank details to save time!
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 08 April, 2021, 09:27:51 pm
Jim Browning's 'Spying on the Scammers' is worth a watch if you've not seen it before...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le71yVPh4uk
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Adam on 08 April, 2021, 10:30:07 pm
On my work number, a few times a month I get an automated message saying my Amazon Prime is due to renew for £39.99 and I need to press 1 to confirm.

What moron sets up a scam when they can't even get the price even vaguely similar to what it should be? 
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 09 April, 2021, 07:45:27 am
We’re very grateful for our call blocking phone on the landline. Any number not “white listed” need the caller to respond and announce themselves. We don’t get nuisance calls.
We've had a Trucall unit on our landline for a number of years. I occasionally look at the control panel to see if im getting any unwanted calls - and its down to a few a month. This leads me to the suggestion that unanswered / blocked numbers get added to some sort of scammers database and dont generally get called, except by the random number machines.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: The Family Cyclist on 09 April, 2021, 08:11:41 am
We have the BT call guardian which I got after my wife was caught out. Thankfully she rang me on her mobile and checked so we didn't loose anything but had to deliver laptop to a friend to have trojan /monitoring software removed.

The call guardian is great but the allowed list doesn't seem to work but that may be as don't think we pay for caller ID or whatever it is

We don't get any dodgy calls on the landlines now....apart from ones for a dental practice with the exact same number except the last digit of the area code who appear to have miss printed something as get a fair amount of calls for them including one bloke I rang back as left an answer phone message swearing as couldn't get through
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 09 April, 2021, 08:47:11 am
I am getting a few mobile to mobile calls about my HMRC offence and how I will be arrested if I do not give my details.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jurek on 09 April, 2021, 08:57:05 am
I am getting a few mobile to mobile calls about my HMRC offence and how I will be arrested if I do not give my details.
I think they got a proper actor in to do that one. He does a convincing version of a person who is really angry with you because you offended.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Polar Bear on 09 April, 2021, 09:21:07 am
It's bizarre isn't it how they have your phone number but apparently no other details.  How did they know to ring that particular phone I wonder ... 🤔
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 09 April, 2021, 09:34:23 am
It's bizarre isn't it how they have your phone number but apparently no other details.  How did they know to ring that particular phone I wonder ... 🤔

There's no mystery to that, an autodialler.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2021, 10:46:48 am
I have definitely noticed an increase recently. Facebook has kindly provided my phone number, dob, name etc  along with 500 million others to any criminal that wants them.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ian on 09 April, 2021, 11:05:56 am
A lot fewer since I turned off the ringer on the landline.

I don't bother listening to them, life is too short, I just hang up, usually before the auto-dialler had put the call through.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 April, 2021, 11:24:22 am
I am getting a few mobile to mobile calls about my HMRC offence and how I will be arrested if I do not give my details.
I think they got a proper actor in to do that one. He does a convincing version of a person who is really angry with you because you offended.

It was probably Laurence Fox.

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Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: DaveReading on 09 April, 2021, 01:10:46 pm
I have definitely noticed an increase recently. Facebook has kindly provided my phone number, dob, name etc  along with 500 million others to any criminal that wants them.

Not being on Facebook, I'm curious as to why one would want to give it one's phone number.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: nuttycyclist on 09 April, 2021, 01:15:27 pm
I have definitely noticed an increase recently. Facebook has kindly provided my phone number, dob, name etc  along with 500 million others to any criminal that wants them.

Not being on Facebook, I'm curious as to why one would want to give it one's phone number.

I was temporarily on farcebook.   As with any other website of that nature when I signed up I entered a random birth date, random phone numbers, an email address set up only for farcebook, etc.     They don't need my details, and when I ditched my account I could also delete the email address.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Regulator on 09 April, 2021, 01:18:42 pm
New bank card arrived today.  NatWest replacing my existing card as they had been notified of a potential breach at an online retailer.

Did check with Nat West and it's kosher.  But the person I spoke to couldn't tell me which online retailer.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Davef on 09 April, 2021, 01:22:41 pm
I have definitely noticed an increase recently. Facebook has kindly provided my phone number, dob, name etc  along with 500 million others to any criminal that wants them.

Not being on Facebook, I'm curious as to why one would want to give it one's phone number.
Ironically it provides better security.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ian on 09 April, 2021, 01:27:49 pm
I don't use FB, but it's generally 2FA isn't it?
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: pcolbeck on 09 April, 2021, 02:09:43 pm
New bank card arrived today.  NatWest replacing my existing card as they had been notified of a potential breach at an online retailer.

Did check with Nat West and it's kosher.  But the person I spoke to couldn't tell me which online retailer.

Same happened to me a few months ago. My bank wouldn't tell me who it was either and as it was precautionary and no money had been taken from me I had no idea.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 09 April, 2021, 03:14:20 pm
I have definitely noticed an increase recently. Facebook has kindly provided my phone number, dob, name etc  along with 500 million others to any criminal that wants them.

Not being on Facebook, I'm curious as to why one would want to give it one's phone number.
Ironically it provides better security.

Well, I'd rather they don't have my phone number, so I keep on declining the offers of greater security. Similarly, unless it is critical to the website, they don't get my birthday. So I get a lot of electronic birthday cards for 1st Jan. As, I believe, do a lot of other internet users...
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: nuttycyclist on 09 April, 2021, 03:23:27 pm
April 1st is my internet birthday.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 April, 2021, 03:24:45 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.

I held one on the line for ten minutes while "my computer" turned on (it was an interesting TV programme I was watching).  He then asked me what operating system it was, so I said Windows 95.  He put me on hold for 15 minutes before coming back and apologising that he didn't have a patch for me.
"Is it a self-adhesive patch or do I have to sew it on?"
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: nuttycyclist on 09 April, 2021, 03:26:36 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.

I held one on the line for ten minutes while "my computer" turned on (it was an interesting TV programme I was watching).  He then asked me what operating system it was, so I said Windows 95.  He put me on hold for 15 minutes before coming back and apologising that he didn't have a patch for me.
"Is it a self-adhesive patch or do I have to sew it on?"

You need to moisten the glue with de-hydrated water.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 09 April, 2021, 04:38:43 pm
My dad loves the ones where they tell you they need to install a patch on your computer.  He waits until they get to the critical bit and then asks if it works on Linux.

I held one on the line for ten minutes while "my computer" turned on (it was an interesting TV programme I was watching).  He then asked me what operating system it was, so I said Windows 95.  He put me on hold for 15 minutes before coming back and apologising that he didn't have a patch for me.
"Is it a self-adhesive patch or do I have to sew it on?"

You need to moisten the glue with de-hydrated water.
I've ordered some from Amazon, and at the same time I got a very good price on some anaerobic nitrogen-oxygen mix.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 April, 2021, 08:02:15 pm
I don't use FB, but it's generally 2FA isn't it?

Used not to be, at least while I was allowed to play in Mr Zuckerberg's Walled Garden.  E-mail address and password was all they asked for.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Ben T on 09 April, 2021, 08:13:36 pm
Got one today that seemed to be from an american number but with a state code that seemed to start with 447 to make it look like a UK mobile  :-\ :-\
Obligatory couple of seconds of silence before a gruff, fairly ominous sounding voice started claiming to be from "the national insurance office". Put the phone down before it got chance to telling me that I obviously owe thousands and should definitely transfer it to this particular anonymous bank account otherwise hordes of armed police are going to swooop in and arrest me
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Feanor on 09 April, 2021, 08:19:42 pm
I don't use FB, but it's generally 2FA isn't it?

Used not to be, at least while I was allowed to play in Mr Zuckerberg's Walled Garden.  E-mail address and password was all they asked for.

Yes, you don't need anything else to just log in.
I think things like having a phone number are to allow for account recovery, where they can send you a passcode.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ian on 09 April, 2021, 08:19:58 pm
I don't use FB, but it's generally 2FA isn't it?

Used not to be, at least while I was allowed to play in Mr Zuckerberg's Walled Garden.  E-mail address and password was all they asked for.

I'd be surprised if they hadn't moved to 2FA, FB account hackage being something of a noncompetitive sport. Let's try, erm, 'Password1'

But then it's Facebook.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 April, 2021, 08:22:05 pm
Wha-hey!  I've just won a Dyson vaccuum (sic) cleaner :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rogerzilla on 09 April, 2021, 08:54:50 pm
I got a call from a gentleman on a Liverpool number, but with a heavy South Asian accent rather than Scouse.

He says he's calling from Aviva (bullshit).

He says he's not trying to sell anything (bullshit).

He says it's about the accident I had (bullshit).

Click.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: robgul on 10 April, 2021, 07:30:21 am
I got a call from a gentleman on a Liverpool number, but with a heavy South Asian accent rather than Scouse.

He says he's calling from Aviva (bullshit).

He says he's not trying to sell anything (bullshit).

He says it's about the accident I had (bullshit).

Click.

May have been the same person that called me a few weeks ago about the "serious car accident" I had experienced - I said it was indeed serious as I had to have both legs amputated ... even that didn't deter them from continuing with the script . . . bonkers.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: cygnet on 12 April, 2021, 12:33:58 pm
If I can be bothered, I ask which accident. That usually breaks the script.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 12 April, 2021, 01:18:34 pm
I had an email from the coop bank*, asking me to update my security credentials.




*There was no name or partial account number on it. Oh, I don't bank with them either.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 12 April, 2021, 01:20:08 pm
If I can be bothered, I ask which accident. That usually breaks the script.
Or you could tell them that you're still suffering from concussion and can't remember the accident,
but ask them to remind you of it.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jurek on 12 April, 2021, 01:27:10 pm
If I can be bothered, I ask which accident. That usually breaks the script.
Or you could tell them that you're still suffering from concussion and can't remember the accident,
but ask them to remind you of it.
That's a  good variant on 'Yes, yes, I did have an accident in which I suffered concussion and memory loss. Is that something that you can help me with?'.
Wait for their reply and respond to it with:
'Yes, yes, I did have an accident in which I suffered concussion and memory loss. Is that something that you can help me with?'.
Repeat ad infinitum

Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hellymedic on 12 April, 2021, 11:05:44 pm
'From Homecare.  Your washing machine cover has ended, would you like to renew?' 
Yep, it's a scam.
Passed on the 'senior supervisor'.
I let them go through all options, as I ramble on about forgeting where I bought the w/m etc.
Later, senior supervisor... 'so would you like the cover or not'  in an annoyed voice...  ;D 
Me.  'No thanks'.  They hang up before I finished speaking.
The only people who phone on the land line these days are scammers, and our parents.   I suppose it makes a change from the 'PC Eventviewer' scam.

Some cold caller told me the warranty for my fridge had expired.

My built-in fridge has been here since before I bought this house in 1999.
<CLICK>
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 19 April, 2021, 10:50:57 am
'Press 1 if I didn't order the iphone being dispatched from Amazon to me...' 

Every few weeks I remind my mother about not responding/giving out any details; she gets mostly BT & Amazon related scams.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 April, 2021, 12:06:54 pm
They all lie about who they're working for now.  I've had "Aviva", "Domestic & General Insurance", and "HMRC" recently. 
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rogerzilla on 19 April, 2021, 12:09:21 pm
I don't use FB, but it's generally 2FA isn't it?
More WTF and FFS in my experience.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 19 April, 2021, 08:01:39 pm
This is… um… ah… Charles calling about your domestic applia <CLICK>

Look pal, if you have to think that hard about what you’re pretending your name is then maybe you should consider getting a job that doesn’t involve lying, m'kay.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 19 April, 2021, 08:12:03 pm
If I can be bothered, I ask which accident. That usually breaks the script.
Or you could tell them that you're still suffering from concussion and can't remember the accident,
but ask them to remind you of it.
That's a good tactic. I've been known to say "Yes, it was a fatality. Well, we made it look like an accident... "
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rogerzilla on 24 April, 2021, 06:27:30 am
Text from Hermes telling me I had a missed delivery and I need to go to their website to pay a fee.  Yeah right.  I see the Hermes van every day.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hatler on 24 April, 2021, 09:58:41 am
If I can be bothered, I ask which accident. That usually breaks the script.
That's roughly my tactic too.

"Which one ?
"Huh?"
"I've had several in the last few months. If you can tell me which accident then that will help me. What date ?"

That generally ends it.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 24 April, 2021, 10:09:22 am
I have thought about talking about the crash that I was in, but its a few years ago now and saying that dozens were killed might end the script prematurely...
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 24 April, 2021, 06:01:41 pm
From yesterday, cross-posted in ctl-alt-delete:

From 0121 428 0116.

This number doesn't take incoming calls.

Voice-activated software waits for me to say 'Hello'. After a brief wait (and noise in the background) Jane, from Virgin Media, (in a very strong south asian accent) hesitantly asked me how I was. I told her that I was still suffering from concussion. There was a silence (as I don't think she was expecting that from her script). Another few seconds and then the automated message: "The other person has cleared".
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Wowbagger on 24 April, 2021, 06:47:36 pm
I've adopted a policy that if I don't recognise the number displayed, I answer the call with silence. After a few seconds, I get the engaged signal.

That seems to be working increasingly frequently.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 24 April, 2021, 08:17:02 pm
Using BT Callminder I don’t even have to bother answering as the calls never get through.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 24 April, 2021, 11:55:29 pm
I've adopted a policy that if I don't recognise the number displayed, I answer the call with silence. After a few seconds, I get the engaged signal.

That seems to be working increasingly frequently.

Silence is the best way, yes.

I'm struggling to educate other occupiers of the house not to parrot the phone number like we used to in the last century, but instead just to wait.

The extraordinary thing about all the phone scams is that the phone networks must have the information and tech to stop them.  I imagine they make too much money out of the scams...
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Ashaman42 on 24 April, 2021, 11:58:02 pm
Unless I'm expecting a call I don't even answer unknown numbers. I do Google them just in case mind.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ian on 26 April, 2021, 09:27:18 am
Same here. The only ones I answer on the mobile, the latest twist is to use what look like mobile numbers, so I'm starting to ignore any that don't appear in my contacts. But anyway, I just hang up immediately (one the other day launched right into a spiel about 'authorizing a transaction on Amazon' yeah)

It does seem to be out of control at the moment and facilitated by the networks.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 26 April, 2021, 10:36:32 am
I had a text at silly o'clock from Hermes, stating that I to pay £1.49 to release a parcel they were holding,
and that if I didn't pay, it'd returned to the sender. Hmmm, I'm not expecting a parcel; and anyway, when
ordering online, you generally pay for postage when ordering your goods (if it's required).
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Duckfoot1606 on 26 April, 2021, 10:42:55 am
I’ve started to amuse myself in recent times telling them we need to go through security and then asking them what my full name , date of birth and password is. The scripts don’t seem able to cope with that.

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Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: grams on 26 April, 2021, 01:30:47 pm
I had a few recently that come from my actual phone number apart from the last two digits, which must be entirely fake.

Yesterday I got one from DHL that asked me to visit a URL on the charmingly named puddingbarcelona.com. That appears to be a legit coffee shop whose main site (Wordpress!) is still up but the hackers have commandeered /dhl/.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Basil on 28 April, 2021, 02:31:31 pm
I really should pay may tax bill.  Apparently a criminal  case has been registered in my name for tax evasion.  ::-)

"You'll never take me alive", I hollered.

Didn't seem to fit the script.   ;D
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 28 April, 2021, 03:18:50 pm
Another attempted phishing attempt. He said he was from the Energy Advisory Board for "this area".

01202 794764


If you phone the number it will be answered by an automated voice, stating that they are doing market research and may call again, but will refrain from doing so if you.......(wait for it, wait for it)..... Press 1. Don't do it.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hatler on 28 April, 2021, 05:32:40 pm
I asked today's scammer what an IP address was, and further asked that he explain it in terms a simple chap could understand.

It didn't take him long to give up.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 May, 2021, 03:48:54 pm
Scams are going txt. Two in a week or so claiming dodgy log ins to my bank account. One just a minute ago from Santander. I don't have a Santander account. Though banks official comms are sometimes so phishy that they probably would include a link to click!
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Bledlow on 04 May, 2021, 10:19:10 pm
This is… um… ah… Charles calling about your domestic applia <CLICK>

Look pal, if you have to think that hard about what you’re pretending your name is then maybe you should consider getting a job that doesn’t involve lying, m'kay.
I had one of them today. Standard combination of Indian speech (not just accent, but word choice, etc.) & British name - which he struggled to remember. Doh!
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: woollypigs on 05 May, 2021, 08:44:01 am
Phone calls ended about 2 weeks ago, after a period of 2-3 weeks, where I got call from mobile numbers 2-3 times a day. I gave up answering them, since they weren't in my address book or left a message and then the calls finally stopped.

I used to say "I must have banned my head so hard that I can't remember the accident" that normally got them to hang up.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Wombat on 06 May, 2021, 03:34:55 pm
Using BT Callminder I don’t even have to bother answering as the calls never get through.

Am I correct in thinking that BT Callminder doesn't block nuisance calls from BT?

For some time after moving here and getting our never before been used, ex-directory landline number, we had loads of nuisance calls, all from BT...  If they keep records, they should know that phoning me is a dangerous pastime, considering I have repeatedly informed them I consider them to be lying, cheating ripoff scumbags of the worst order.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 06 May, 2021, 03:59:51 pm
Tbh I don’t know (it’s called Call Guardian now actually) but we’ve not had anything get through that isn’t in our contacts list. The phone should have a “block” button on it, so if you get another that gets through, just press that in the call. We’re not with BT for the landline, we just use the BT branded phones with call guardian on. Oh, and I’m pretty sure you can just as easily block after the fact from the calls menu.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 06 May, 2021, 04:07:05 pm
Phone call today on my landline. Couldn't be bothered to answer it. Could be a scam.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 06 May, 2021, 06:09:38 pm
Mid-Atlantic Robo-woman telling me that due to “illegal activity” on the internets “your Internet Service Provider” will terminate your connection in the next 24-48 hours.  No mention of who my ISP actually is.  Yes, I'm going to press “1” to find out more.  Shortly after Stan goes to work on a dog sled.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 07 May, 2021, 09:08:21 am
My wife just got the scam post office text asking for £2.99 for delivery. Website actually looked very good with even a COVID warning, correct colours, etc. Font was slightly off.
Title: Re: Scam of the Day
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 18 May, 2021, 07:40:25 am

Anyone with a HSBC bank account warned not to click text link 'under any circumstances' (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/anyone-hsbc-bank-account-warned-20613250.amp)
Quote


A text message reads: "HSBC: A payment to MR/MRS [insert name] has been attempted on [insert date] at [insert time]. If this was NOT you, please visit:"

plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
Title: Re: Scam of the Day
Post by: Polar Bear on 18 May, 2021, 09:39:25 am

Anyone with a HSBC bank account warned not to click text link 'under any circumstances' (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/anyone-hsbc-bank-account-warned-20613250.amp)
Quote


A text message reads: "HSBC: A payment to MR/MRS [insert name] has been attempted on [insert date] at [insert time]. If this was NOT you, please visit:"

plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

I got a slightly different HSBC scam text last week.  Use you can tell as the genuine ones come from HSBC and not from "a number" and claiming to be HSBC in the text of the message.
Title: Re: Scam of the Day
Post by: neilrj on 18 May, 2021, 11:13:47 am

Anyone with a HSBC bank account warned not to click text link 'under any circumstances' (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/anyone-hsbc-bank-account-warned-20613250.amp)
Quote


A text message reads: "HSBC: A payment to MR/MRS [insert name] has been attempted on [insert date] at [insert time]. If this was NOT you, please visit:"

plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

I got a slightly different HSBC scam text last week.  Use you can tell as the genuine ones come from HSBC and not from "a number" and claiming to be HSBC in the text of the message.

The scammers can present any text number they like and so if your phone knows a HSBC number a bogus text will display in your HSBC thread, that's why people get caught out as the bogus text mimics them. Not sure why yours didn't actually display as HSBC.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: perpetual dan on 18 May, 2021, 12:10:58 pm
I got a threat to block my NI account earlier. I was tempted to not answer, then moan bitterly when I still got taxed on my pay at the end of the month. Instead I greeted them as I would a Tory.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 18 May, 2021, 03:36:07 pm
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click. 
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: GavinC on 19 May, 2021, 08:07:38 pm
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click.
I had one of those yesterday too.  Suspected it was a scam but wasn’t sure so I clicked through to a very genuine looking Hermes website (though the URL immediately gave away that it wasn’t the genuine article). It asked me to put in my postcode to check my delivery, so for giggles I put in the postcode of my childhood home. Lo and behold, there was a missed delivery for me at that address, although we left there 40 years ago ;D
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 20 May, 2021, 01:35:31 pm
The (poor) grammar gave it away to me instantly.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 21 May, 2021, 08:30:09 am
What percentage of the population would be as critical of grammatical errors?*



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Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 21 May, 2021, 09:06:45 am
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click.
I had one of those yesterday too.  Suspected it was a scam but wasn’t sure so I clicked through to a very genuine looking Hermes website
Should you be thinking......"Am I expecting a parcel?" If not, then ignore/immediately delete text.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 21 May, 2021, 10:03:36 am
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click.
I had one of those yesterday too.  Suspected it was a scam but wasn’t sure so I clicked through to a very genuine looking Hermes website
Should you be thinking......"Am I expecting a parcel?" If not, then ignore/immediately delete text.
I think this scam works on the basis that most of the population with a smart phone will be expecting an online shopping delivery in the next few days.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 21 May, 2021, 10:26:00 am
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click.
I had one of those yesterday too.  Suspected it was a scam but wasn’t sure so I clicked through to a very genuine looking Hermes website
Should you be thinking......"Am I expecting a parcel?" If not, then ignore/immediately delete text.
I think this scam works on the basis that most of the population with a smart phone will be expecting an online shopping delivery in the next few days.

And with covid many deliveries have taken longer than usual. Delays are a window of opportunity for scammers.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 21 May, 2021, 11:56:01 am
What percentage of the population would be as critical of grammatical errors?*



*Nice work!
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I don't know, I was lucky that it happened to be obvious to me. I didn't mean it to sound elitist or patronising.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 21 May, 2021, 12:30:08 pm
“How are you today?” asked Mr Technical Department of BT Broadband, sub-continentally.

“I am very not a BT Broadband customer!” quoth I, and hung up.

Five seconds later the cheeky fucker is back.

“Why did you just hang up the phone on me?”

“Because you’re a liar and a scammer!”

<CLICK>

He tried a third time.  I let the machine handle it.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Bledlow on 21 May, 2021, 09:46:29 pm
I'm just getting "Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs" (recorded) at the moment. Takes the fun out of it, not having anyone to wind up.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 21 May, 2021, 10:55:43 pm
If you press a few keys a drone starts talking to you. So keep on pressing the keys. They get the message eventually.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 22 May, 2021, 09:09:12 am
What percentage of the population would be as critical of grammatical errors?*



*Nice work!
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I don't know, I was lucky that it happened to be obvious to me. I didn't mean it to sound elitist or patronising.

No criticism intended, I just happen to know of a person who got one of the HMRC calls who receives bonus related pay in a basic retail job.  They took it seriously and were lucky they mentioned the problem to a colleague who was a bit more savvy.  I guess too, that scammers keep a record of the vulnerable. 
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hellymedic on 22 May, 2021, 03:09:08 pm
Just had an email purportedly from Santander Bank, with whom I do not bank about updating my details.

Looks 'authentic'.

Suspicious link when hovering over buttons.

Nice try!

Be warned!
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 22 May, 2021, 03:19:43 pm
No criticism intended, I just happen to know of a person who got one of the HMRC calls
HMRC don't make phone calls individual taxpayers.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hellymedic on 22 May, 2021, 03:21:47 pm
No criticism intended, I just happen to know of a person who got one of the HMRC calls
HMRC don't make phone calls individual taxpayers.

They request a phone number when you complete a Tax Return, I think.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 22 May, 2021, 04:10:22 pm
No criticism intended, I just happen to know of a person who got one of the HMRC calls
HMRC don't make phone calls individual taxpayers.

They request a phone number when you complete a Tax Return, I think.
When I worked for the Inland Revenue (as it was back in the day) we never made calls to individuals. However, taxpayers (who had tax queries) did phone the office when they
needed (financial) stuff sorting out.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Asterix, the former Gaul. on 22 May, 2021, 06:17:03 pm
No criticism intended, I just happen to know of a person who got one of the HMRC calls
HMRC don't make phone calls individual taxpayers.

Who knew?!
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: GavinC on 24 May, 2021, 07:39:09 pm
A first for me, a text from a mobile number claiming "Hermes:We wasn't (sic) able to deliver your parcel today, to reschedule redelivery...." with a link to click.
I had one of those yesterday too.  Suspected it was a scam but wasn’t sure so I clicked through to a very genuine looking Hermes website
Should you be thinking......"Am I expecting a parcel?" If not, then ignore/immediately delete text.
I was expecting a delivery which is why I wasn’t sure whether it was a scam :)
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: nuttycyclist on 24 May, 2021, 08:39:50 pm
New one for me  ;D    incoming email:-

I can't imagine it really is a unique reference number in the subject, but I've redacted it anyway.

       From:   Council Tax - GOV. UK <kanri@fukuokadensetu.co.jp>
       To:     nuttycyclist's email address
       Subject: GOV.UK - Reference: <redacted>/C31CTR-Number: <redacted> - COUNCILTAXGOVUK- Message on 24-May-2021 13:57:11 BST - Your GOV.UK important order <redacted> has been dispatched


No email body (I have my client set to plain text for this reason).   On opening and reading the html attachment it appears that my house is in a new council tax band and as I have a low income I can claim a council tax reduction if I go to a strange URL which I'm not going to paste here for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: SteveC on 25 May, 2021, 05:31:26 pm
Phone call. Real person, with a very 'African' accent. Might have been based in this country though. 07xxx type number.
Apparently I signed up for some on-line investment thing, about a year ago which is why I'd forgotten about it. It's not a scam because they are covered by the FSA.

Hmm, I think it is a scam you know...
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: ian on 25 May, 2021, 05:40:26 pm
There's is 'a tax fraud against my name.' Not, I think you are trying to reach Donald Trump, I tell them.

Only bloody answered the thing because I was expecting another call.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Peter on 25 May, 2021, 05:56:57 pm
What percentage of the population would be as critical of grammatical errors?*



*Nice work!
Grammarly found no errors in your text. Install Grammarly’s app to make sure your writing is mistake-free on other websites.

I don't know, I was lucky that it happened to be obvious to me. I didn't mean it to sound elitist or patronising.


It didn't - not to me, anyway.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Tim Hall on 25 May, 2021, 11:21:56 pm
Colleague had an email today, allegedly from teh Boss. Wording looked kosher, asking for some invoice and debtor details. Except it came from a fastmail.com address and poking around the headers showed a Reply to address was a completely different address at supersave.net

Somewhat targetted I think.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Adam on 26 May, 2021, 05:46:36 am
Phone call. Real person, with a very 'African' accent. Might have been based in this country though. 07xxx type number.
Apparently I signed up for some on-line investment thing, about a year ago which is why I'd forgotten about it. It's not a scam because they are covered by the FSA.

Hmm, I think it is a scam you know...
Did they say FSA? Must still be using an old script!  They changed to FCA in 2013.  You could have scammed him to buy a new wording to use.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: fd3 on 31 May, 2021, 01:50:21 pm
Call from "TalkTalk Engineer" - didn't twig that it was a scam at first.  I was confused because they knew the mob number of the billpayer - but then picked up on stuff (could you win+r some programs for us please sir?).

On the plus side a talk with Customer Service and password reset later my bill has gone down by £4 a month, Broadband speed has gone up and I have enabled some tighter security settings.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 31 May, 2021, 05:32:15 pm
Letter today. handwritten envelope addressed to "The Occupier" and with an actual stamp on it.

From the Jehovah's Witnesses :o
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: fd3 on 31 May, 2021, 06:20:19 pm
Well, if they're going to that effort it would be rude not to invite them in.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: MikeFromLFE on 01 June, 2021, 06:58:22 am
Letter today. handwritten envelope addressed to "The Occupier" and with an actual stamp on it.

From the Jehovah's Witnesses :o
We've had similar.
Our next-door-but-one neighbours are JWs and perfectly pleasant people who we get on with on a nodding and 'do you want some more rhubarb?' basis, sent hand written notes to all the houses in our cul-de-sac a while back, saying (I précis) 'We're Tom & Marj, and we're JWs, if you want to know more about our beliefs just ask'.
I wonder if it's a new policy as door knocking has passed its usefulness (if it ever had a use outside of USAnia).
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Polar Bear on 01 June, 2021, 07:21:19 am
A friend of ours gets these.  He is a methodist and made the mistake of having a doorstep chat with them.  They started during lockdown.   
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: MattH on 01 June, 2021, 07:50:58 am
I thought that JWs had to spend a certain amount of time recruiting spreading the good word of the Lord, which is why they do the door knocking. Moving to letter writing for their mandated weekly hours would make sense in a CV world.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 07 June, 2021, 02:57:40 pm
New one...   'your compromised National Insurance number'  yadda yadda 'Northern border of Wales' ,  'Press 1 before we take legal action.'

Anyone had this?  miniao had it the other day.   This one is different as one to my android phone, rather than land line.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: De Sisti on 07 June, 2021, 04:13:07 pm
All of my scam calls have been on my landline. Hardly anyone calls me on my landline.
I ignore all landline calls. If it's a genuine call and someone wants to make contacet with
me, they'll find a way.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: rafletcher on 07 June, 2021, 04:21:19 pm
All of my scam calls have been on my landline. Hardly anyone calls me on my landline.
I ignore all landline calls. If it's a genuine call and someone wants to make contacet with
me, they'll find a way.

The why bother with a phone connected to it?  Have one in the cupboard for emergency backup.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: hatler on 07 June, 2021, 05:33:36 pm
New one...   'your compromised National Insurance number'  yadda yadda 'Northern border of Wales' ,  'Press 1 before we take legal action.'

Anyone had this?  miniao had it the other day.   This one is different as one to my android phone, rather than land line.
Yup. Had that two or three times now. I treat it with sincerity and ask some pertinent questions. "Ooo, that sounds serious. What would you do ?" etc etc
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Cpt Sisko on 07 June, 2021, 06:30:16 pm
The why bother with a phone connected to it?  Have one in the cupboard for emergency backup.

Same story here. I move house a few months ago and whilst I still have to pay land line rental to get broadband (which grates but that's another story) I don't have a telephone plugged into the wall socket. I just don't see the point nowadays.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Basil on 09 June, 2021, 11:36:01 am
Two calls to my mobile in two hours this morning from Her Majesty(sic) Revenue and Customs. One showing as a landline, the other as a mobile.
Rather annoying as I was expecting a call and so hung on to answer.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Mr Larrington on 31 August, 2021, 06:03:18 pm
The Scam-o-Tron 5000 phoned twice this pm claiming to be from “Bank Security Department” and that I'd spent money on my “card” to previously-uncustomerisated companies.  Including Amazon.  Alarm bells rung by no name being given for the bank and no mention of whether it was a credit or debit card.

>>> CLICK <<<
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 19 February, 2022, 03:38:36 pm
'Phoning about a life insurance review - you haven't had a review for 2 yrs' 
Yes OK - for which policy?
'erm, so you're asking for which policy, erm, hello are you still there?'
Yes.
<Line goes dead.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: andyoxon on 14 March, 2022, 11:52:16 am
Call with background noise which sounds like a busy indoor market.
You've over paid on your washing machine purchase, we want to refund you.
Can you verify name and address? <old street address> No not correct. <old postcode> No not correct.
Hangs up.
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 16 March, 2022, 06:01:16 pm
Music in the background

Hello this is Heather, how are you?
- Sorry, where are you from?
I'm calling about crypto, are you familiar with crypto currencies?
- Yes I have some
Oh, now are you doing?
- I'm a millionaire
Click Brrrr
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Peter on 16 March, 2022, 06:03:35 pm
Jaded, we need to talk...
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: Jaded on 16 March, 2022, 06:07:43 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Today's scam...
Post by: perpetual dan on 11 July, 2022, 09:32:36 pm
Apparently I've been exposed to Omicron and am required to get a test from some random non NHS domain.
I may well have been, but I'm pretty sure the sender is even less legit than Dido Harding.