Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => The Sporting Life => Topic started by: Wowbagger on 10 April, 2021, 11:10:26 am
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Essex have begun the defence of their title (which of course wasn't contested last year) with an impressive 490-9 dec v Worcs, and Westley, the Essex captain, notching up 213. Worcestershire have been reduced to 43-4.
From what I can gather, the County Championship has been reduced to a 10-match sideshow to all the important 20-20 stuff that cricketers have to play these days. The 18 first class counties have been divided into 3 groups and there is some means of breaking ties so that a later stage can be played. Whether that means that those counties who don't reach the later stages play only 5 first class games a year, I don't know.
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I see that Yorkshire's match has been snowed off :)
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/4713/production/_117959181_leedssnow.jpg)
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There is always the chance of a very rare event - 1000 runs before the end of May - as there are 7 county championship matches before the end of May, and there's already a few who have got 200 runs to their name.
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Worcestershire fought back superbly against Essex, from 43-4 to 350-6.
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And Worcestershire drew with Essex! Great result for them, looking at the state of play half-way through the match.
And Alistair Cook was the only player in the match to lose his wicket twice. That hasn't happened very often.
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Essek v Durham Hail stopped play! Essex 81 - 8 after a collapse worthy of a team with 3 England batsmen in it. Still, fat lady and all that.....
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Well, Durham have a lead of about 50, with two wickets left. Luckily our (English) captain scored a century - the rest were even worse than Essex.
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I wonder whether there will be questions about the wicket. It should be OK this early in the season. But well done Borthwick!
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Yes, I suppose questions will be asked, as they were in India. But I tend to think that's more a problem for broadcasters and spectators weho are "cheated" out of their moneysworth. Both teams are playing on the same pitch and we're still only on day one! As you half-imply, I don't think Borthwick will be complaining. But the fat lady is still only at the gargle. I wouldn't put it past Cook to make a double hundred tomorrow! After 3 innings(es), I think he averages 2.
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Some years ago Essex were deprived of the championship, and it went to Worcestershire, after they had points docked because of a low-scoring game at Southchurch Park, Southend. I always felt that that was rather unfair as that ground wasn't under the control of the ECCC, but Southend Borough Council, and it was only used for first class cricket one week a year.
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the Southchurch wicket: in 1948, the Australians scored 721 runs in a day on it.
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Some years ago Essex were deprived of the championship, and it went to Worcestershire, after they had points docked because of a low-scoring game at Southchurch Park, Southend. I always felt that that was rather unfair as that ground wasn't under the control of the ECCC, but Southend Borough Council, and it was only used for first class cricket one week a year.
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the Southchurch wicket: in 1948, the Australians scored 721 runs in a day on it.
To take your logic, every county would put the ground under the nominal ownership of a 3rd party company and then claim its not their responsibility that wicket is crap - ergo no county could ever be held accountable for the crap pitches.
A more sensible approach is taken though and a County are responsible for their choice of venue to host a game. If County don't do necessary checks and mon itoring to ensure the venue is up to standard, then they deserve to be punished
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Good fightback by Essex to make a proper game of it and scotch moans about the pitch. But I think Durham/South Africa 2nds should get home ok.
Hmmmm. Not so sure. Durham have effortlessly reached 0 but are already 2 wickets down. Proper game!
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It is a proper game! I reckon if Essex can take a couple of quick wickets, they will be favourites. 48/3 at the moment.
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Never in doubt :P
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Proper game, indeed! Well done Essex! Bobb, as you belatedly opined, the result is rarely in doubt when Durham are playing but I dared to hope!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO49954
WTAF?
Since when have batsmen been renamed as potential pancakes or Yorkshire puddings?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO49954
WTAF?
Since when have batsmen been renamed as potential pancakes or Yorkshire puddings?
Since the women started getting more coverage.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO49954
WTAF?
Since when have batsmen been renamed as potential pancakes or Yorkshire puddings?
Since the women started getting more coverage.
Also since the hundred decided that it would be "batter" rather than "batsman" and "outs" rather than "wickets". Expect scores to be broadcast as "100 for 3 outs" rather than "100 for 3 wickets" apparently this is easier to understand for the less familiar audience.
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What next, relabelling the player who delivers the ball in the general direction of the “batter” as “the pitcher”?
We of the Democratic Ruthless Bastards Party will, on seizing power, track down these people, batter them and coat them in pitch. And feathers.
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"Batter" is fine for purposes of gender neutrality, but "Outs" can fuck right off. I shall write a strongly worded letter if I ever see that....
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What next, relabelling the player who delivers the ball in the general direction of the “batter” as “the pitcher”?
We of the Democratic Ruthless Bastards Party will, on seizing power, track down these people, batter them and coat them in pitch. And feathers.
I think you should seriously consider registering the DRBP at the Electoral Commission.
A couple of good wins already. Essex v Warks is nicely poised. Essex have 1 wicket left and are ahead by 224. I always think that anything in excess of 200 is a tall order for a 4th innings. For much of the afternoon it looked as though Warks would be chasing rather less.
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Well, Warks have had a brilliant day: 5 needed to win with 7 wickets left. 251-3 batting last is most impressive.
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And Durham have "thrown away" another game from a winning position. Well done Derbyshire. Bedingham (one of Durham's South Africans) is the competition's highest scorer so far but he might well be regretting his decision to be based in the cold pole of cricket if Durham don't start capitalising on his ability.
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Bobb and Wow - Lancashire have a TE Bailey playing for them, this season!
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Bobb and Wow - Lancashire have a TE Bailey playing for them, this season!
Born in Preston!
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Good Lord! He'll be qualified for South Africa in no time!
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Been a tad moist today from an Essex POV that's probably a good thing although I don't know if they can get an lead with the seven remaining wickets tomorrow and not leave enough time for it to be chased down
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Suddenly Essex seem to have become quite mediocre. That the second time in a few weeks they've been all out in double figures.
In their first innings, Extras was 3rd top scorer with 9. Browne seems pretty good, having scored exactly alf of Essex 228 runs to date, and he's still there in the second innings. Shame he didn't carry his bat in the first.
As you say, the rain has helped them. They might be able to hold on or a draw.
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Suddenly Essex seem to have become quite mediocre. That the second time in a few weeks they've been all out in double figures.
Don't give up: if I remember correctly (which is by no means certain), the first time, they ended up beating Durham,
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Well, Essex were comprehensively thrashed in that game. Well done Notts!
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Yes, I'm afraid so. Notts did it without Broad, too, I think. A fine all round performance from a young Englishman, Lyndon James, backed up by a South African bowler - now, there's a surprise! Essex have Ten Doeschate, of course, but it wasn't to be on this occasion.
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Unless something extraordinary happens Essex V Derbyshire will be a draw. Todays likely to be the only day of play
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Well Essex are having a go. Weather forecast for tomorrow isndire but may be some play Sunday morning
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They got enough play today to have Derbyshire following on, but have taken only 1 second innings wicket. Tomorrow looks like a difficult day for both sides: coming in and out all the time does nothing for batsmen's concentration, but of course Essex are likely to lose a lot of time to a wet outfield.
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That's an impressive win by Essex: they only lost 3 wickets in their innings and then beat Derbyshire by an innings and 15 runs.
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Yes. It puts them ahead of Durham, who have a game in hand. But it's fine that Essex are top because they beat Durham in impressive style earlier in the season (I think). Stat of the day (or a far longer period) is that Rushworth, who had match figures of 9-for, broke the Durham record for wickets taken, with 531. The record used to belong to Graham Onions, another great bowler who hasn't troubled the England selectors often. Wood and Stokes, who do get picked for England are either unavailable or injured (or in court) for most of the time that Rushworth has been playing. And to think that Rushworth was sacked as a 19-year-old by Durham. Not surprisng that he was in tears today. Well done.
On a side issue, we didn't need too much input from South Africa this time, thanks partly to a century from Young - who is a New Zealander.
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Not much cricket today because of rain. However, Darren Stevens of Kent managed 190 off 149 balls and inincluded 15 (15) sixes in it. He's 45, an age when most of us couldn't even see the bowler approaching. Well done, that man!
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Astonishing, wasn't it? If I've read the scorecard correctly he came in when the score was 80 for 5 and was 9th many out on 294 - so his 190 was from a total of 214 scored while he was at the wicket - an innings truly of Richardsian proportions!
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Yes and I think his partner played a Jack-Leachian innings of a run every 50 balls, or something. Terrific stuff!
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You can watch it all here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMSqoHbotg
Very windy to judge from how the camera is shaking about.
If anyone hasn't realised, all county championship cricket is now live on youtube, and available afterwards.
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Thanks, J!
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And live coverage is in Essex CC case on their website
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Yes and I think his partner played a Jack-Leachian innings of a run every 50 balls, or something. Terrific stuff!
I have just read that the 9th wicket partnership was 166, in which his partner scored 1 to his 165. The source (Graun) stated that it was the most one-sided 3-figure partnership in county championship history.
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Unlike Jack Leach, he got his single at the start of his innings. And as soon as Stevens was out, he immediately hit a 4. Apparently Cummins has a reputation as a big hitter. From what I saw Glamorgan persisted in bowling wide to him, so he didn't have to play many of the balls he faced, and he showed admirable patience in leaving them.
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Yes. I took your info. and watched for a short while on yer tube: was amazed at how persistently wide (without being called so) the Glamorgan bowling was. Stevens must have sensed that the only way he could be out was caught or run out and as 150 of his 190 came in boundaries, there wasn't much danger of run out, so that left "caught". Swing away!
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There is talk on the Essex live stream about declarations, bearing in mind the loss of time due to rain in the current matches. Essex have a small 1st innings lead (30-odd) and there's a suggestion that they might declare when they get to 200, as that gets them an extra bonus point. Apparently it is frowned upon to declare just to deprive your opponents of a bowling point - Essex are 8 wickets down and Warks will get another bowling point on the fall of the 9th wicket. I was unaware that this was a Thing and deprecated.
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Essex v Durham again. 16 wickets fell on the first day. Essex lead by 120-odd.
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Durham need a leaf out of Essex's playbook and a mirror image of their last match!
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Another 9 wickets have fallen today. I wonder if the wicket is a bit suspect?
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I doubt if Durham will complain! Not only is it their groundsman but they seem to find it easy enough to lose wickets, while Essex are struggling to do so!
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Yes, it's hard to see Durham coming back now. A very good second innings by Essex.
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Well done, Essex! Your Australian was much more effective than ours! Let's hope the players we both had missing put in a shift against New Zealand, including Ben Stokes..... the New Zealander!
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A remarkable win for Leicestershire, who were chasing a massive 378, and got them for the loss of only 5 wickets.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO49995
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On my usual theme, an excellent display from an Australian and a South African! Must have been terrific to watch.
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I don't know any of the players these days.
There was a time when I was very knowledgeable about the minutiae of first class cricket, to the extent that I was invited to quizzes to answer cricket questions. But then Brian Lara happened and a lot of the records I had spent my formative years memorising weren't records any more. You can't reprogramme your brain to accept this new data with such facility when you are in your forties.
The funniest example of this was when I was working for Customs - 1994 or 95 I think. A colleague and I were due to go to Scotland for work purposes and since we were both involved in VAT computing, and enforcement law in Scotland is quite different from that in England, we arranged a trip. We shared a boss, so we told him about our plans to visit Aberdeen and Elgin in June. "Oh!," said he, "This needs a management check!" His boss got to hear about it and he decided it needed a management check as well, so four of us got on the plane at Stansted. We'll call our boss's boss Brian, as that was his name.
We were staying in Dufftown and at breakfast, Brian was reading the Independent. Suddenly he exclaimed "Good grief! Good grief!"
"What's up Brian?" we enquired.
"Brian Lara has just scored 501 in a test match!"
"Crikey!" I replied, quick as a flash, "That beats Hanif Mohammed's 499 for Karachi against Bahawalpur in 1959!"
Second look of utter incredulity on Brian's face in as many seconds.
"How did you know that?"
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Brian Lara didn't score 501 in a test match. It was a county championship match against Durham.
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Go on, rub it in, why don't you!
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Lara's highest Test score is a paltry 400 not out. Admittedly 20 more than anyone else has ever scored.
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Brian Lara didn't score 501 in a test match. It was a county championship match against Durham.
I know. My memory isn't what it was. Apropos my previous post, QED.
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Go on, rub it in, why don't you!
Whenever I go to see my pal Penelope, and sometimes take her dog out for her, I go to Southchurch Park, which is about 100 yards from her front door. I look at all the people and think that probably none of them is aware of Essex's Day of Shame which took place there, when the Australians scored 721 in one fateful day in 1948. That remains a world record, I believe.
I was there some years ago with my dad when Essex played Glamorgan (my dad's county) in a John Player match. Mr. Gooch was on 176 (I think) when he was run out as a result of a bit of Pringle stupidity. IIRC Pringle was on 2 at the time and went on to make 50. I think Gooch's score was a world record then for 40 overs.
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Nottinghamshire, having already beaten Essex a few weeks ago, are now in a dominant position in the return match. Essex haven't lost a match at Chelmsford for several years but I think they'll lose this one.
Edit nearly 7 hours later: Essex are still in there, after a low point of 14 - 3 this morning. 7 wickets down now, and still trailing by over 100 runs, but that means that Notts will have to take 13 wickets tomorrow and score enough runs to shut Essex out of the game.
Assuming Essex and Notts do qualify for the next stage, they won't play again but Notts will start with the points they accrued against Essex, which will be quite a lot.
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Derbyshire v Essex abandoned due to Covid outbreak. Presumably that will put paid to Essex’s already slim chance of defending their title.