Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Topic started by: andrewc on 18 August, 2015, 09:10:47 pm
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I'm going to a champagne reception & lunch at the BT Tower tomorrow, dress code is "smart casual" :o , so my usual office jeans & t shirt won't fit the bill....
So...., I've more or less decided on plain navy trousers, with a lighter blue linen sports jacket , but which shirt ? My new, unworn "mystic lavender" linen one ? The "dusky pink" oxford ? The blue check one that means cufflinks ??
It's all going to look crap after 2 hours on the train anyway...
And shoes ! Black loafers or the shiny brown Loake chukka's ?
I don't believe I'm asking for fashion tips from people I mostly see in lycra....... :facepalm:
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Yeah, fashion advice from Audaxers. Always a winner.
The pink oxford shirt and the Loakes.
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Everyone is wearing red trousers these days. Go for it.
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I'm sorry.
I could offer advice if you were attending a rubber and leather fetish event.
Unfortunately, on this occasion, I am unable to be of any help.
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Smart causal?
You should wear your Evening Shorts, obviously.
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Photos would help, andrewc?
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As the world's second worst dressed woman, I suggest the dusky pink Oxford and the black loafers.
Cuff links are a faff and brown shoes with blue trousers don't seem quite right.
Oh and enjoy the tower; I've not been up there for 50 years!
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gbTtVrmTL._SY300_.jpg)?
I'd go for the pink shirt but the brown shoes.
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Definitely not black shoes with blue trousers.
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I wear black shoes with blue trousers on a regular basis. If I owned some brown shoes I might wear them instead.
I wouldn't even consider a pink shirt in the shop, much less wear it. Lavender sounds nice.
I spent my teenage years avoiding casuals, and haven't looked back, tarring "smart casual" with the same brush on the way. So I'd be claiming that my casuals is smarter than the other folks :)
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Hmmmmm, no love for the lavender ? The jacket is "Blueberry" , too much blue ?
I could swap the trousers for a new pair of chinos ?
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Chinos, brown shoes, blue shirt, blue jacket would do it.
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It's just the linen jacket with the linen shirt sounded like it could be a bit much. But that's a nice tight weave, and depending on the fabric of the jacket could look really nice.
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That's the (faintly checked) blue shirt, think I'll leave the tie at home... (& the old git!)
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If you go for all blue it you could end up looking like you're wearing school uniform. It's not that kind of party, is it?
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One place I used to work, "smart casual" simply meant no jacket. But still a tie! :o
Just don't whatever you do wear brown shoes. With most colours of suit, they look fucking awful. The problem with then is they look great in the shoe shop on their own but don't go with anything.
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Bearing in mind that linen is going to crease horribly on the journey, as well.
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If you go for all blue it you could end up looking like you're wearing school uniform. It's not that kind of party, is it?
Add the black shoes and it'd look like a sea scouts uniform
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If you go for all blue it you could end up looking like you're wearing school uniform. It's not that kind of party, is it?
No, school uniform is what I'd wear to one of Jurek's parties.... ;)
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Definitely the pink or lavender shirt, and brown shoes.
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Brown shoes are wrong. Otherwise wear what you feel comfortable in and won't look like a dishcloth at the end of the night.
Brahn boots, I ask you...
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The shoe problem is easy. Just match them to the pedals.
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The shoe problem is easy. Just match them to the pedals.
Presumably SPD is too casual, and road shoes would be too formal, so Time ATAC would seem the best choice...
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How about clips and straps? Clearly, leather straps and shiny Christophe clips are too formal, but would plastic clips and nylon straps be acceptable or do they give rather a shoddy impression? Perhaps best to go for a decent quality flat pedal, perhaps from a Pashley.
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Red trousers, pink shirt, blue jacket, red bow tie and brown shoes.
(quote Michael Foot "It Fucking well is my best suit!")
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It is a brave or foolhardy person who disagrees with Frank Zappa on this matter viz. Brown Shoes Don't Make It.
Even though he's dead.
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A Polo shirt won't hack it.
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A Polo shirt isn't Hackett...
...and a Polo shirt may not be a polo shirt.
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Opted for chinos, pink shirt, brown chukkas.
Disaster though! I've over polished the boots & all the little creases have white lines of polish, and they don't match my man bag :-[
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Good choice.
Should have posted this earlier: How to wear brown shoes & boots (http://www.gentlemansgazette.com/how-to-wear-brown-shoes-boots-men/)
And I do hope your belt matches your footwear...
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Of course! The belt is hand tooled mahogany leather, by Terry Dear of Celtic Leathercraft. As recommended by Pancho a while back.
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:thumbsup:
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Gosh, it's like the Velominati but without bikes. Vesteminati perhaps.
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... I've over polished the boots & all the little creases have white lines of polish, and they don't match my man bag :-[
Shouldn't this have been in First World Problems?
Get thee a duster, fold it over your index and middle finger and rub the shoe in a circular motion. Once all the polish has been dissipated buff with said duster.
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One place I used to work, "smart casual" simply meant no jacket. But still a tie! :o
Obligatory Dilbert:
http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-07
http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-08-08
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The new team my colleagues are moving to has just begun to enforce a "no jeans" & "collared shirts only" dress policy. How to improve morale....
The last time their manager came to our office I was in shorts & sandals. ;D
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I'm pretty sure that to become a manager one has to generally be a total arse and wedge one's head firmly up the rump of another more senior total arse.
I'm sure that my ability to ignore this protocol is what curtailed my career in the banking, telecoms and retail sectors. :D
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I don't wear a tie on the grounds that if I'm going to have a noose around my neck I'm going to have had a lot more fun than turning up at any office. Given the way the average office worker looks in a cheap suit scrunched tight with a bad tie, I find it hard to see how that's much of an improvement over turning up in a pair of bermuda shorts and flip flops.
Brown shoes are fine. Just please, oh god please, not with blue suits, and definitely, for the sake of the blessed lachrymose jesuskitten itself, not bright, jangly royally blue suits. This seems to be a wedding thing, I had my retinas pummelled by another sighting of this phenomenon the other day, and more worrying was the fact it has spread stateside. There on the pavement outside the reception venue was the bride, resplendent in a waterfall of elegant cream, which even as a not yet internationally recognized expert on frocks, I could appreciate. Then next to her, atop those brown shoes was the zaffre-suited beacon of fashion stupidity himself. If that wasn't bad enough, as though he hadn't already started the WW1 of colour, he managed to top it with a huge explosion of ginger hipster beard. O the horror, the horror.
Where's the damn fashion rant thread?
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I don't wear a tie on the grounds that if I'm going to have a noose around my neck I'm going to have had a lot more fun than turning up at any office. Given the way the average office worker looks in a cheap suit scrunched tight with a bad tie, I find it hard to see how that's much of an improvement over turning up in a pair of bermuda shorts and flip flops.
True indeed. It's like school uniform but bigger. In fact, it is.
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Proper navy blue suits or trousers are fine with dark tan shoes and belts but pale tan shoes go with nothing and make the wearer look like a spiv. Having said this, I still prefer black shoes and belt but them I'm neither an adventurous nor stylish dresser.
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Ah, but socks or no socks...?
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Socks always! Except when wearing sandals, then No Socks!
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(http://www.theworkingwardrobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Bill-Cunningham-On-the-Street-Sizzle3.jpg)
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^ Who's died? Their trousers are at half-mast.
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And that's fashion? :sick:
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Fashion is by definition silly. Otherwise it would just be 'clothes'.
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https://twitter.com/andrewxclark/status/633961762837123072
A picture from the top. My sister Alison & myself.
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The first guy looks okay 'cos he's wearing espadrilles. Which should never be worn with socks.
The other two just look like divs.
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https://twitter.com/andrewxclark/status/633961762837123072
A picture from the top.
You look really good, but those trousers are a funny shade of navy?
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I'd just about adjusted to the height, now the damn place is rotating & I'm feeling a bit queasy ! :sick:
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I'd just about adjusted to the height, now the damn place is rotating & I'm feeling a bit queasy ! :sick:
Gosh, they don't turn that on unless it's a special occasion.
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I'd just about adjusted to the height, now the damn place is rotating & I'm feeling a bit queasy ! :sick:
Gosh, they don't turn that on unless it's a special occasion.
Opens window, leans out, does 360 degree Huey...
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The new team my colleagues are moving to has just begun to enforce a "no jeans" & "collared shirts only" dress policy. How to improve morale....
When I toiled in the Nut Mines, the Evil Squirrels used to keep us techies on a different floor so that visiting nobs would not have their view sullied by scruffy oiks such as we. Then budget cuts, redundancies, reorganisations and the baleful influence of the USAnian Suits ultimately in charge saw our little enclave closed down and we had to move to the same floor as the rest of the company. No more jeans, no more T-shaped shirts, no more sandal (without socks, natch).
I got a ticking-off from an HR Droid for wearing black jeans. An HR Droid wearing blue jeans. But this was a lady HR Droid. Apparently the ban on jeans, T-shaped shirts, sandals ect. ect. only applied if you had a penis. I allowed as how if this rule were to be rigorously applied then all employees, regardless of the arrangement of their reproductive organs, should conform to it.
No more was said.
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I'd just about adjusted to the height, now the damn place is rotating & I'm feeling a bit queasy ! :sick:
Gosh, they don't turn that on unless it's a special occasion.
Opens window, leans out, does 360 degree Huey...
Well Fuck! I was a little queasy, my sister who was accompanying me just passed out at the table.
Just had to rush her downstairs .
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I hope she's okay (and that it's not anything more sinister than a revolving tower allergy).
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Obligatory Dilbert:
http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-07
http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-08-08
You mean, Business Dorky (http://dilbert.com/strip/2014-10-11).
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Obligatory Dilbert:
http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-07
http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-08-08
You mean, Business Dorky (http://dilbert.com/strip/2014-10-11).
;D
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Tubewear. (http://dilbert.com/strip/2014-12-29)
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I hope she's okay (and that it's not anything more sinister than a revolving tower allergy).
Another faint downstairs but she seems OK now. I'm walking her around Bond St & Regent St so she can buy me a present in return for the meal. So far, zilch!
She's passed out a few times before, docs can't figure out why. As she's deaf & was feeling dizzy it could be vestibular ?
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I got a ticking-off from an HR Droid for wearing black jeans. An HR Droid wearing blue jeans. But this was a lady HR Droid. Apparently the ban on jeans, T-shaped shirts, sandals ect. ect. only applied if you had a penis. I allowed as how if this rule were to be rigorously applied then all employees, regardless of the arrangement of their reproductive organs, should conform to it.
No more was said.
Yes, I got this once. Reprimanded by a senior manager for my non business dress. At the time she was wearing a shapeless, faded, baggy sweat shirt. (On the banned list)
But that was apparently OK, it was a "top".
Wtf is a top?
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Wtf is a top?
Like a T-shirt, but the sleeves (if long) are invariably too short and you're allowed to wear them in offices.
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Wtf is a top?
Like a T-shirt, but the sleeves (if long) are invariably too short and you're allowed to wear them in offices.
Only if you're female. >:(
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Wtf is a top?
Like a T-shirt, but the sleeves (if long) are invariably too short and you're allowed to wear them in offices.
Only if you're female. >:(
It's karmic payback for stupid trousers with no pockets. And the low-level disapproval of sensible shoes.
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OK, you win on the shoes thing. Bugger having to wear stuff like that.
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I hope she's okay (and that it's not anything more sinister than a revolving tower allergy).
Another faint downstairs but she seems OK now. I'm walking her around Bond St & Regent St so she can buy me a present in return for the meal. So far, zilch!
She's passed out a few times before, docs can't figure out why. As she's deaf & was feeling dizzy it could be vestibular ?
Low oxygen on account of the height...?
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I hope she's okay (and that it's not anything more sinister than a revolving tower allergy).
Another faint downstairs but she seems OK now. I'm walking her around Bond St & Regent St so she can buy me a present in return for the meal. So far, zilch!
She's passed out a few times before, docs can't figure out why. As she's deaf & was feeling dizzy it could be vestibular ?
Does she get weird hot/cold and heartrate symptoms as well as dizziness?
I only found out about 7 years after my worst blacking outs that they were probably my autonomic nervous system calling for a "Make human horizontal and away from vestibulo-visual overload". If your sister is deaf and has balance issues they should refer her to an auditory or vestibular medicine specialist and offer her some physio to help improve her vestibular issues if possible.
Hope your sister is feeling OK now.
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Thanks Barakta, she was fairly uncomfortable for a while, but improved when we went outside.
She's no major balance issues, doesn't normally suffer with any form of motion sickness.
Last time she passed out was coming down stairs though, which ended up with a nasty bump. I think she had some tests for epilepsy after that which couldn't find anything unusual.
Dramatic unconsciousness at restaurant tables seems to be a recurring theme in my life, and this time I can't even blame Kim ;)
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The new team my colleagues are moving to has just begun to enforce a "no jeans" & "collared shirts only" dress policy. How to improve morale....
When I toiled in the Nut Mines, the Evil Squirrels used to keep us techies on a different floor so that visiting nobs would not have their view sullied by scruffy oiks such as we. Then budget cuts, redundancies, reorganisations and the baleful influence of the USAnian Suits ultimately in charge saw our little enclave closed down and we had to move to the same floor as the rest of the company. No more jeans, no more T-shaped shirts, no more sandal (without socks, natch).
I got a ticking-off from an HR Droid for wearing black jeans. An HR Droid wearing blue jeans. But this was a lady HR Droid. Apparently the ban on jeans, T-shaped shirts, sandals ect. ect. only applied if you had a penis. I allowed as how if this rule were to be rigorously applied then all employees, regardless of the arrangement of their reproductive organs, should conform to it.
No more was said.
I worked for Birmingham City Councils, education department or a subdeck there of. I was one of about 10 blokes in our division and we were expected to wear business suits and ties at all times, even when driving the van or unloading the van at a conference. The ladies who ran HR apparently had no rules for female dress, and denim skirts etc were all perfectly allowed.
Once I'd worked out it was impossible to get sacked from the council I would turn up in whatever I wanted (craghoppers and polo shirt usually) and forget to go to my meetings with hr to discuss my dress.
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Sister appears to be fine & was back at work today. Thanks for all the sartorial advice!
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After yesterdays gourmet fayre this afternoons lunch was a horrible chicken & bacon sandwich & a kit kat :sick:
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Where's the rest of it? You're supposed to take the picture before you've almost finished! ;D
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That also appears to be Not A Plate.
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That's a lovely jacket.
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It was a plate, just a rather large one.
Full menu. I believe they were charging paying punters £68 for this, though I doubt that included the wine, which was topped up on a regular basis :thumbsup:
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I wasn't keen on the cauliflower veloute' , luckily it was only a large egg cup full.
The jacket is M&S Collezione seconds via ebay! One of the little buttons on the cuff is broken so I got a £100 jacket for £20 :D
More pics https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewclark/albums/72157657503441002 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewclark/albums/72157657503441002)
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Giraffe OTP says 'nouvelle cuisine' is French for 'dirty plate'...
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It was severely lacking in carbs. I was tempted to ask for a portion of chips........ ;D
Had to hit Pret at Euston before the train back to Liverpool & had a bacon bagel when I got home.
It was lovely food & very well served (I left in such a rush I didn't leave a tip :-[), I paid £27:50 for a similar tasting menu in Liverpool last year. That was at a catering college's "training" restaurant. Given the venue & the "London" factor, I don't think the price they were charging the public was too unreasonable. There are several restaurants in Liverpool that will charge the same or more! http://www.theartschoolrestaurant.co.uk/menu/ (http://www.theartschoolrestaurant.co.uk/menu/)