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sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« on: July 25, 2011, 09:04:23 am »
The stitching was coming undone on the straps on my Nelson (not manufacturing defect, it was something I did), and I had a hole rubbed in the bottom.

Carradice don't do repairs anymore, but they kindly sent me some fabric when I asked about repairs.

So I bought some strong thread, a thimble, and some leather needles and set to last night.

Oh, my it is difficult getting needles through that leather!  Bent smallest needle, managed with the next one. Only did one strap and it is really messy. Took me ages. I kept pushing the needle through from inside of the bag and 'missed' the line - the needle point came out in the wrong place.

Gave up trying to sew the patch on and did as Carradice suggested. They said to glue on with copydex - I used leather-repaid contact adhesive - that seemed to work really well.

I still have one strap to sort out - anyone have any suggestions on how to produce neat stitches in a line?
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 09:06:55 am »
I recently bought a "Speedy Stitcher" to redo some stitching on my Carradice gear.  Looks like it will do the job, but I've yet to try it in anger.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 09:10:56 am »
It might help to try punching the holes in the leather before sewing. Use an awl.

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 09:15:58 am »
the leather has holes - but how do you find them from the other side?

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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 09:27:34 am »
My grandfather was a saddler and he always used a bradawl to make the pilot holes for the needles. He had a big clamp ( giant bulldog clip) that held the pieces of leather together, this was held tight between the legs allowing the use of and two hands. With the bradawl he was able to make a pilot hole, then feed a needle and thread (two needles ) from either side simultaniously (double stitching). It was great to see.

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 09:29:37 am »
I took mine into http://www.bysonleather.co.uk/ , they sewed the straps back on and fixed a hole in about 10 minutes, for six pounds. 

I guess with the cost of postage it will be more expensive than DIY but they did a much better job than I could have.  Perhaps if there's a saddlers nearby to you they'd be worth a call?

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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 09:29:52 am »
My grandfather was a saddler and he always used a bradawl to make the pilot holes for the needles. He had a big clamp ( giant bulldog clip) that held the pieces of leather together, this was held tight between the legs allowing the use of and two hands. With the bradawl he was able to make a pilot hole, then feed a needle and thread (two needles ) from either side simultaniously (double stitching). It was great to see.

That's a good point, if not double stitching, pushing a unthreaded needle through from the top side (i.e. the side with the leather on) will help you locate where the hole is.  Push needle through a little, so point shows on other side,  push threaded needle in alongside that needle, remove first needle then pull threaded needle through.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 09:34:59 am »
 :facepalm:

that is so obvious - now you've suggested it.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 02:20:25 pm »
I was disappointed that Carradice don't do repairs any more, but they were very helpful when I called them - I've just deposited my Super Cs at a local cobbler's for repairs. £6.50.

I'd only make a mess if I tried myself, and I'd probably stab myself too.

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 08:02:25 pm »
This may be an old subject! But do you know anybody with a sewing machine that may be able to help you!
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 08:45:39 pm »
Interesting that this thread started with "Carradice don't do repairs anymore". They must have restarted, since they repaired my Super C rack bag last autumn. It got new velcro straps for a fiver, plus P&P both ways. Very neatly done, & as good as new - though with that patina that a decade of use brings.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 07:02:47 am »
That "speedy stitcher" certainly looks useful!   :thumbsup:

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 08:47:29 am »
What you need is a sailmakers palm and needle.  This is what sailmakers use for sewing canvas.  The needle has a triangular end that makes an easy hole and the thread then pulls through easily.  There is a hard base fixed onto the palm that you use to push the needle through initially.  You can also get left handed ones, I have one since I am left handed.

http://marinestore.co.uk/Davey_Palm_Roping_Store_Left_Hand.html
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 11:20:56 am »
This is what you want.  http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/velox-velox-tyre-tub-tube-spares-accs-velox-needle-thread-for-tubular-repairs/velotyrz300000000000  A stout triangular needle as recommended above, plus very tough thread.  I've been using it for decades to repair leather goods.  If fitting new straps, drill the holes first.

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 08:27:29 pm »
Like Mike, I've taken mine into general professional repairers on the odd occasions where I had problems. One company patched a Nelson saddle bag with leather, very successfully. Bag and shoe repairers, or even saddlers, may be able to help.

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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 12:07:25 pm »
Carradice giving up repairs and the York Rally Show cancelled - it's the end of the world!  :o
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 02:47:24 pm »
CARRADICE STILL DOES REPAIRS!

Or at least, did last autumn, 15 months after the post which said they'd given up. I have proof, in the form of a rather nicely repaired Super C rack bag. There was something about it on this forum at the time, with a contribution from Carradice Bag Lady.

Whether they only do a limited range of repairs not including what the OP wanted, or whether it was a short-lived policy, or whether there's some other explanation for the OP, I do not know. But it is definitely not true that Carradice no longer does repairs.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 04:26:23 pm »
...a rather nicely repaired Super Crack bag.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2013, 12:05:01 pm »
CARRADICE STILL DOES REPAIRS!

Or at least, did last autumn, 15 months after the post which said they'd given up. I have proof, in the form of a rather nicely repaired Super C rack bag. There was something about it on this forum at the time, with a contribution from Carradice Bag Lady.

Whether they only do a limited range of repairs not including what the OP wanted, or whether it was a short-lived policy, or whether there's some other explanation for the OP, I do not know. But it is definitely not true that Carradice no longer does repairs.

I think they changed their minds and started doing the repairs again.

This is the email I received:
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  Unfortunately we don't have a repair service any more.  You might  be able to have the straps stitched back in place at a shoe repair shop as they sometimes have the equipment for repairing leather.  If you let me have your postal address I can send you some patching fabric and instructions.  You will need some Copydex adhesive as well.
 
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 03:02:10 pm »
There once was a "Carradice Bag Lady" as a member here, but her last post was early December 2012, so she may no longer be active on this forum, but if she still reads the messages she should be able to confirm the current situation. 
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2013, 08:48:57 pm »
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 06:13:19 pm »
The leather seatpost holder on my Barley (i.e. the one the strap threads through) gave up the ghost.  Stitching came undone (and I cocked up the repair, discovering that super glue isn't super at all when it comes to leather/fabric interfaces).  I've bought a new one, but am minded to bodge a repair on the old one out of nostalgia.

I am pondering using a D-Ring type arrangement rather than a leather holder, through which the leather strap will feed.  The ring "holder" punched/riveted into place through the bag fabric.  Has anyone tried a similar bodge, with any comments on feasibility (or suppliers).

Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2013, 02:03:05 pm »
There once was a "Carradice Bag Lady" as a member here, but her last post was early December 2012, so she may no longer be active on this forum, but if she still reads the messages she should be able to confirm the current situation.
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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2021, 04:43:38 pm »
I've been (clumsily - unlike my late great-uncle, who was a sailmaker, I suck at needlework) darning holes in an old Lowdown bag this afternoon.  Darning will never give a watertight repair but it does give the bag its structural integrity back before I glue a patch on the inside.  With a big hole, there are only really two options before using the repair kit: either darn it first, or sew a reinforcing patch on the outside.  Otherwise you still have a hole to show the messy side of the glued-on repair patch, and it'll fall apart anyway.

The repair kit on its own would work for a clean tear or cut where no material has been lost, but the no.1 failure mode for Carradice bags is abrasion, usually against walls.

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Re: sewing repairs on carradice saddlebags
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2021, 04:48:16 pm »
I bet Carradice would do a repair on it if you sent it back to them, even though it's old.
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