Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Tomsk on 11 February, 2020, 03:38:09 pm
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The Recidivists of ACME are going for a repeat of their 2018 [wet] Broken Arrow of 2018, [more beer, fewer miles].
However, ACME Dynamite Fixed are currently at the minimum of three members and would like to recruit two more, not necessarily on fixed, but the route will be fixed/singlespeed friendly: Witham start at 09:00 Good Friday, lots of Fenland [probably], 400km or near enough, pub evening meal at around 220km. Non-ACME riders welcome too.
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Evening Tomsk. If I'm already included in ACME Dynamite fixed numbers that's cool, if not please do count me in for some fixed fun in the fens. ;D
For anyone thinking about an Arrow - I did this in 2017 in the fixed-wheel ACME team Witham - York as my first one and it remains one of my favourite 400 km AUK events I've ever ridden. The teamwork and camaraderie, arriving with others in York having completed very different routes, make for a unique experience.
Nim
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For the first time in 4 years I'm skipping the Arrow this year, opting instead for a 600km bikepacking race from the Lake District to the North Sea and back. The route for that takes me through York, but it'll be on the Friday evening, so unfortunately I'll miss everybody this year. Pity Thursday evening Arrow starts are no longer possible.
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I too am doing something other than an Arrow this year. Heading a bit further north for a 300. Sure you’ll fill the places no problem.
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Didn’t think I should mention this at home tonight. I think I said I’d be at home over Easter. Leave it with me.
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I was in a fixed arrow team once. Made for a very tight paceline. BTW my 'team trundle' are also at the minimum*, IMO not a bad thing, improves the team dynamic, starting off knowing the team relies on you all finishing.
*Tandem trike + two single trikes.
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The Recidivists of ACME are going for a repeat of their 2018 [wet] Broken Arrow of 2018, [more beer, fewer miles].
I'm potentially in for this, depends on what else we're doing...
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I think I've captained just two all-fixed Arrows. The first, three years ago we were all on 72" or thereabouts, last time a bit of variety, including Teethgrinder on something mahoosive. Always makes for a good team ride though - the polar opposite being a team many moons ago, with [if my memory serves me], two on fixed, two on gears, and a recumbent. We were all over the place, pace-wise!
Evening Tomsk. If I'm already included in ACME Dynamite fixed numbers that's cool, if not please do count me in for some fixed fun in the fens. ;D
For anyone thinking about an Arrow - I did this in 2017 in the fixed-wheel ACME team Witham - York as my first one and it remains one of my favourite 400 km AUK events I've ever ridden. The teamwork and camaraderie, arriving with others in York having completed very different routes, make for a unique experience.
Nim
:thumbsup: You're in!
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I'm interested Tom, if you don't mind a slow interloper from Cambridge. I'd like to do an Arrow and doing it on fixed would fit in really well with my plans for the year. But I might be too slow for the group - and would need to get domestic clearance too... Discuss off line?
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the polar opposite being a team many moons ago, with [if my memory serves me], two on fixed, two on gears, and a recumbent. We were all over the place, pace-wise!
All over the place ability, consistency and navigation-wise too ...
I could well be interested (but am probably slower than stefan) if there's room, and if Aidan's barrow arrow doesn't find itself with a longbarrow sans stoker.
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the polar opposite being a team many moons ago, with [if my memory serves me], two on fixed, two on gears, and a recumbent. We were all over the place, pace-wise!
All over the place ability, consistency and navigation-wise too ...
I could well be interested (but am probably slower than stefan) if there's room, and if Aidan's barrow arrow doesn't find itself with a longbarrow sans stoker.
:thumbsup: We have 5 potential riders now - start training! [Riding into the forecast headwinds this weekend is a start. :demon:]
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I'm potentially available to ride if there's space, but also more than happy to sit out if you already have 5 - can you keep me posted on plans etc. please Tom.
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As always, very interested, still haven’t managed to do an arrow - very difficult with the Easter Steam Up at the pub. There is a small chance, as we are likely to be at Whitbreads Farm still, that they might not want to do it there this year, which will free me up, but chances are I’ll be needed as usual. I’ll keep you posted and if you have a free spot nearer the time, I might just be able to do it.
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As always, very interested, still haven’t managed to do an arrow - very difficult with the Easter Steam Up at the pub. There is a small chance, as we are likely to be at Whitbreads Farm still, that they might not want to do it there this year, which will free me up, but chances are I’ll be needed as usual. I’ll keep you posted and if you have a free spot nearer the time, I might just be able to do it.
I don't think you'd like an arrow: too few hills, only lasts 24 hours and no opportunity to add to your cap / jersey collection!
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Train tickets ;)
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Train tickets ;)
Or ride back!
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That's potentially 7 riders ... hmmm, two teams? Anyone want to captain team #2? Two teams of three, with Josser as the fourth member for one, depending on Compasses commitments?
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Train tickets ;)
So what's the view on this week's train+bike booking situation? Faffing around on the useless TOC websites fills me with despair! Split ticket sites any good? [I can't help thinking Uncle Jeremy might have eventually sorted out the trains ... ]
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So what's the view on this week's train+bike booking situation? Faffing around on the useless TOC websites fills me with despair! Split ticket sites any good? [I can't help thinking Uncle Jeremy might have eventually sorted out the trains ... ]
Hull Trains is my current go to site for ticket + bike. Just checked on your date, and the first option I selected, the 13:57 from York to Kings Cross had bookable bike space and would be £23.50.
https://www.hulltrains.co.uk/ (https://www.hulltrains.co.uk/)
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So what's the view on this week's train+bike booking situation? Faffing around on the useless TOC websites fills me with despair! Split ticket sites any good? [I can't help thinking Uncle Jeremy might have eventually sorted out the trains ... ]
Hull Trains is my current go to site for ticket + bike. Just checked on your date, and the first option I selected, the 13:57 from York to Kings Cross had bookable bike space and would be £23.50.
https://www.hulltrains.co.uk/ (https://www.hulltrains.co.uk/)
:thumbsup: I'll give that a go, ta!
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I'm Interested in joining one of the teams....
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I'm Interested in joining one of the teams....
:thumbsup: So that makes 8 possible, excellent!
Hull Trains bookings done, plus hotel in York for Mr and Mrs Tomsk's Easter Holidays. :thumbsup: Almost considered persuading the offspring to come, but no, they can stay at home and look after the livestock.
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Just saying....I’ve made some arrangements for the ACME Alternative Arrow. I have booked a (twin) room at the Sandford House Wetherspoons in Huntingdon for the night of Friday 10th April.
My plan is to replicate the 2018 Arrow route via Hitchin, enjoy the hospitality of the Falcon, stay the Friday night, ‘spoons breakfast in the morning then ride home by a TBD route.
If anyone is thinking similar, rooms are very reasonable at £39/night, probably similar to a train ticket home on the Friday.
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I’m not doing an arrow this year as we finished with only fifteen minutes to spare last year and it was probably my fault... but I am planning to to the ACME ten tonnes perm which I DNS last year, so if you’re all starting at the Spoons maybe I’ll see you all for second breakfast?
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I’m not doing an arrow this year as we finished with only fifteen minutes to spare last year and it was probably my fault
The essence of the arrow is to complete the distance using the whole 24 hours, so that's just about perfect!
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I’m not doing an arrow this year as we finished with only fifteen minutes to spare last year and it was probably my fault
The essence of the arrow is to complete the distance using the whole 24 hours, so that's just about perfect!
Indeed. Riding faster would just mean longer stops. Arriving with much more than 15 minutes spare would lead to consideration of going past ans back again
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Now then folks ... we need another captain! No reason why we shouldn't have two teams doing the same route, starting an hour apart. There's a possibility of meeting up half-way at the Pack Horse 'spoons in Sleaford. Starting from Witham or wherever suits Captain #2, 08:00/09:00/10:00 or on the half-hour depending on pre-ride breakfast options? I'm working on re-hashing fixed-friendly Fenland routes; easy night navigation etc.
So far we have:
Bernster
BFC
Grey Sheep
Josser [possibly]
jsabine
Tomsk
Nim
rob [possibly, subject to negotiations]
stefan [may be forming a Cambridge team]
- 9 including 3 maybes? Two teams of 3 definites, with the option of tacking one or two on? Meet up on a Wednesday evening or at a weekend soon - going to be difficult, what with all these audaxes to ride.
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Now then folks ... we need another captain! No reason why we shouldn't have two teams doing the same route, starting an hour apart. There's a possibility of meeting up half-way at the Pack Horse 'spoons in Sleaford. Starting from Witham or wherever suits Captain #2, 08:00/09:00/10:00 or on the half-hour depending on pre-ride breakfast options? I'm working on re-hashing fixed-friendly Fenland routes; easy night navigation etc.
So far we have:
Bernster
BFC
Grey Sheep
Josser [possibly]
jsabine
Tomsk
Nim
rob [possibly, subject to negotiations]
stefan [may be forming a Cambridge team]
- 9 including 3 maybes? Two teams of 3 definites, with the option of tacking one or two on? Meet up on a Wednesday evening or at a weekend soon - going to be difficult, what with all these audaxes to ride.
there are potentially 3 other Cambridge riders, but just expressions of interest rather than anything more definite at the moment. A catchup sounds like an excellent idea.
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A mid-week meeting might be tricky for the further-flung riders, but could be train assisted - I guess somewhere near the Cambridge-Liverpool Street line would be best?
Pick another evening in the next couple of weeks? Our favourite venue in the western sector and fairly train friendly via Sawbo/B Stortford would be The Cock, Hatfield Broad Oak. Not too far for those in the Witham/Chelmo area?
Non of the upcoming MEMWNS venues are out west, though I see the Orange Tree in Chelmo is down for next week [26th Feb]. Thoughts?
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A mid-week meeting might be tricky for the further-flung riders, but could be train assisted - I guess somewhere near the Cambridge-Liverpool Street line would be best?
Pick another evening in the next couple of weeks? Our favourite venue in the western sector and fairly train friendly via Sawbo/B Stortford would be The Cock, Hatfield Broad Oak. Not too far for those in the Witham/Chelmo area?
Non of the upcoming MEMWNS venues are out west, though I see the Orange Tree in Chelmo is down for next week [26th Feb]. Thoughts?
It's looking more likely than not that we now have four or five riders for a Cambridge start. So why don't you pick the venue and time that suits you best and let us know. If one or two of us can get down to join you we will, and definitely keep in touch when we are finalising teams/routes.
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Ok, we'll try a Wednesday evening meeting, first choice would be the Orange Tree, Chelmsford next week. I'll email the interested parties.
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I'll need to step down from this, I'm afraid. I looked at the wall planner and realised I was away an awful lot in April and then a week in early May. Easter will be a family weekend and, hopefully, a trip to the track for the Good Friday meeting.
Hope you all enjoy.
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I'll need to step down from this, I'm afraid. I looked at the wall planner and realised I was away an awful lot in April and then a week in early May. Easter will be a family weekend and, hopefully, a trip to the track for the Good Friday meeting.
Hope you all enjoy.
Ok rob, another time.
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I've got a provisional route to bring along for discussion on Wednesday. :thumbsup:
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I've got a provisional route to bring along for discussion on Wednesday. :thumbsup:
360 or 400K???
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I've got a provisional route to bring along for discussion on Wednesday. :thumbsup:
360 or 400K???
Dont forget you can ECE it up to distance :thumbsup:
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360 or 400K???
Currently working on 405km, plus some Tomsk 'bonus' - I reckon about 12km, mostly on Essex/Suffolk lanes to avoid the worst main roads. This may possibly get cut down a bit, with a bit more messing about with Mrs Google. There's the option of 372km for the brevet and 3 points: finishing at Howden, if things go pear-shaped - that'd leave 32km to York - bear this in mind with train bookings, though it may be possible to train it quicker from Howden. [In 2018's broken arrow, trains from Hull to York via Howden were off due to engineering work - so we had to tt it to York after abandoning at Swanland.]
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360 or 400K???
Currently working on 405km, plus some Tomsk 'bonus' - I reckon about 12km, mostly on Essex/Suffolk lanes to avoid the worst main roads. This may possibly get cut down a bit, with a bit more messing about with Mrs Google. There's the option of 372km for the brevet and 3 points: finishing at Howden, if things go pear-shaped - that'd leave 32km to York - bear this in mind with train bookings, though it may be possible to train it quicker from Howden. [In 2018's broken arrow, trains from Hull to York via Howden were off due to engineering work - so we had to tt it to York after abandoning at Swanland.]
Ah I remember that well 24 hours of rain, but we did finish with awesome breakfast ...........
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Ah 2018 when Prickwillow level crossing threw me onto the rails in the dark and wet. Bleeding elbow, much blood loss, and retirement for me just south of Crowland.
I’ll follow the Easter Arrow through this thread as this year I’m doing a different ride over Easter. I do like the team element.
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I've found a viable trim to most of the over-distance. I'll be watching the River Ouse levels - the A1123 at Earith Bridge was closed before Christmas, but is currently [just] above flood levels in the Ouse Washes. There's a diversion route via Sutton Gault [causeway/footbridge] and Chatteris to Ramsey that adds back about 6km ...
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The Recidivists of ACME are going for a repeat of their 2018 [wet] Broken Arrow of 2018, [more beer, fewer miles].
I'm potentially in for this, depends on what else we're doing...
I wish to officially confirm my entry to Not The Arrow. I have booked a room at the Huntingdon ‘spoons. Do I need to register on-line or pay an entrance fee? I do hope our route won’t be over distance!
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The Recidivists of ACME are going for a repeat of their 2018 [wet] Broken Arrow of 2018, [more beer, fewer miles].
I'm potentially in for this, depends on what else we're doing...
I wish to officially confirm my entry to Not The Arrow. I have booked a room at the Huntingdon ‘spoons. Do I need to register on-line or pay an entrance fee? I do hope our route won’t be over distance!
Oppps... I appear to have done the same! :facepalm:
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Wicked!!! I reckon we’re going to have a proper giggle. Dakota has just had a service and clean so I available if needs be but I might go fixed on BJ.
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I've not decided yet on which yet either
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If you're mourning your riding fix, a few of us are having a Zoom natter tomorrow evening at 6pm. Email me for a log-in lfitzpatrick01 @ g mail dot com.
Danial Webb will be on hand to update us all on LEL21 plans,
We'll quiz Jas Muller on keeping form during lockdown
Gracie Lamber Smith will be there dispensing her particular take on long distance rides and
Emily Chapple can tell us what she's reading while plotting her next adventure.
Just an hour of general chat and a chance to reconnect with the community - Zoom log in needed and places are limited but available from me by email.
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Not sure how, but can it be recorded?
I'll be somewhere up a motorway at 7 tomorrow and the police don't like you watching TV while you drive ;D
Sure I won't be the only one who would be interested in it :)
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I'm very interested in attending, and have emailed LiamFitz.
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What? Nobody doing an arrow on their turbo trainer?
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What? Nobody doing an arrow on their turbo trainer?
Mounted on the back of a lorry heading to York... ;D
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Not sure how, but can it be recorded?
I'll be somewhere up a motorway at 7 tomorrow and the police don't like you watching TV while you drive ;D
Sure I won't be the only one who would be interested in it :)
There is a record functionality which I used for something on Saturday... It's pretty horrible and generates a massive file.
We'll just have to do it again in a fortnight and have you as a guest speaker...
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If you're mourning your riding fix, a few of us are having a Zoom natter tomorrow evening at 6pm. Email me for a log-in lfitzpatrick01 @ g mail dot com.
Danial Webb will be on hand to update us all on LEL21 plans,
We'll quiz Jas Muller on keeping form during lockdown
Gracie Lamber Smith will be there dispensing her particular take on long distance rides and
Emily Chapple can tell us what she's reading while plotting her next adventure.
Just an hour of general chat and a chance to reconnect with the community - Zoom log in needed and places are limited but available from me by email.
Still places left - email me before 545 for log in details.
L
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Well how did the Easter Arrow 2020 substitute go, @LiamFitz? Lots of positive feedback? 100 Zoom participants must have made for a challenging control regime.