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Title: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 08 June, 2021, 10:02:42 pm
Apropos of sous-vide, which I think is basically a foot spa you are using to cook food (and I don't have either, but if someone gives me an excuse), I asked myself what are the best things in my kitchen:


There's probably some other stuff, but really I could probably bin most of the stuff in my kitchen and get away with these and the oven/hob.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Pingu on 08 June, 2021, 10:33:27 pm
...Magimix...

OT: that word always makes me think of Ivan Dobsky the Meat Safe Murderer (Only I Never Done It).

As you were...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 08 June, 2021, 10:36:27 pm
Ok I'll bite.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 08 June, 2021, 10:55:56 pm
My Baby Boa Constrictor strap wrench.

Means EVERY and jar is openable, without damaging the top/lid.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 08 June, 2021, 11:09:21 pm
I bought a salad spinner,  I think I've used it twice.  I'm just not that fond of leaves. 


The Bamix stick blender that I got 2nd hand on Ebay is used fairly regularly for pesto, hummus & sauces.  The Slicesy attachment that turns it into a mini food processor less frequently. (burgers & meatballs last week)


Rice cooker & slow cooker went to the recycling centre.  The 3L Instant Pot pressure cooker however is used several times a week.  Rice & veg mainly, stews & stuff when I'm feeling ambitious. 


Swan stainless steel kettle.  Over 30 years old & still helping to wake me up in the morning. 


Opinel kitchen knives.  The little carbon steel paring knives are very useful, the big chefs knife does the job & the bread knife is excellent.



Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Basil on 08 June, 2021, 11:12:18 pm
The one knife that I keep stupidly sharp.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 June, 2021, 11:27:56 pm
Apropos of sous-vide, which I think is basically a foot spa you are using to cook food (and I don't have either, but if someone gives me an excuse), I asked myself what are the best things in my kitchen:

  • […] mandolin

OT: whereas this word always makes me think of Vivian Stanshall on Tubular Bells.  As does “pangolin”.  I'd pay good money to watch Mike Oldfield trying to play a pangolin.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: spesh on 08 June, 2021, 11:29:15 pm
Istheresomehiddenreasonwhyallthewordsinthethreadtitlearerammedtogetherordidian'skeyboardsufferabriefspacebarglitch?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Tim Hall on 08 June, 2021, 11:33:19 pm
As Basil says, the Very Sharp Knife. And my lame, with Inspirational Motto, that my Young Lady gave to me:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iMMMg9ljwfm0ZD-VdtLEndSqvVSBly66Vrea2gsUccQJzGdwUpX-x9RE8DhbpNGo6C7p7kFpjYb_EL2J-i9PnvCCLcIeUNuMWMmHdOe3qRf3VcIxTjT0ZuFtuIe_3-_gRwUVQbvSZfc=w2400)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 09 June, 2021, 12:12:59 am
The one knife that I keep stupidly sharp.

On a similar note, the one cheap generic serrated knife with which I can cut cheese consistently.  I've never found another that works quite as well.

While we're on the subject of cheese, the crackers-shaped Tupperware box I filched from my parents when I first went to university.  It does one thing, and has been doing it well for decades.

Current kettle's not bad, now I've modified it to not have stupid 50Hz flickering BLUE LEDs.  Ergonomics are decent.  It won't last, though, it's too modern.
Title: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 08:29:21 am
Apropos of sous-vide, which I think is basically a foot spa you are using to cook food (and I don't have either, but if someone gives me an excuse), I asked myself what are the best things in my kitchen:

  • […] mandolin

OT: whereas this word always makes me think of Vivian Stanshall on Tubular Bells.  As does “pangolin”.  I'd pay good money to watch Mike Oldfield trying to play a pangolin.

I think ian means a mandoline. One of those words where the subtle addition of a single letter makes a big difference to the meaning*. But I’m not ruling out the possibility that he slices his fennel with a musical instrument accompanied by Viv Stanshall commentary - it’s an appealing mental image.

Aside from “the one knife”, which should be the star of any kitchen, I will also nominate my Thermapen as being worthy of mention here - so useful for any temperature-critical culinary operation.

What’s salad spinner? Does lettuce taste better if you make it dizzy first?

*see also silicon/silicone
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 09 June, 2021, 08:42:45 am
Damascus steel knives x 2.
The carbon steel one can be honed to stupidly sharp. The stainless one less so.
Stainless pans (Non Teflon) mostly over 30 years old, a mix of John Lewis own brand and some Danish designer from Divertimenti - all of them as good in use as they were when I first bought them.
Cuisipro chemically/photo-etched box grater. Think box made out of Microplane.
Peugeot pepper mill.

Oh! Nearly forgot. Global kitchen shears. They have a lever for broaching the vacuum on sealed glass jars, a round grippy thing for gripping round things which won't turn, and one of the blades is lightly serrated - so that is doesn't slip when you are cutting slippy chicken.

Oh, And my gralefruit knife.
Gralefruit = typo in the lunchtime menu of one of the episodes of Fawlty Towers.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 June, 2021, 08:58:00 am
Opinel kitchen knives.  The little carbon steel paring knives are very useful, the big chefs knife does the job & the bread knife is excellent.

Opinel kitchen knives you say? Ooh, there's interesting. I shall have a gander.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 09 June, 2021, 09:11:13 am
The most useful thing I have is a Breville hot water dispenser
https://www.breville.co.uk/breakfast/hot-water-dispensers/hotcup-with-variable-dispense-gloss-black/VKJ318-01.html#start=3

Mrs Scum has weak hands and could not lift a kettle of boiling water. It is easy to put a cup below the spout of this thing and get a cuppa by just pressing a button.
Also comes in super useful when you need hot water for making soups or pasta - just use a jug to transfer the hot water to your pot.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 09:43:44 am
Apropos of sous-vide, which I think is basically a foot spa you are using to cook food (and I don't have either, but if someone gives me an excuse), I asked myself what are the best things in my kitchen:

  • […] mandolin

OT: whereas this word always makes me think of Vivian Stanshall on Tubular Bells.  As does “pangolin”.  I'd pay good money to watch Mike Oldfield trying to play a pangolin.

I think ian means a mandoline. One of those words where the subtle addition of a single letter makes a big difference to the meaning*. But I’m not ruling out the possibility that he slices his fennel with a musical instrument accompanied by Viv Stanshall commentary - it’s an appealing mental image.

Aside from “the one knife”, which should be the star of any kitchen, I will also nominate my Thermapen as being worthy of mention here - so useful for any temperature-critical culinary operation.

What’s salad spinner? Does lettuce taste better if you make it dizzy first?

*see also silicon/silicone

According to my very big OED subscription, mandolin is an accepted spelling (the original British spelling, -e came from the US), though I know someone would seize on the confusion and imagine me attacking fennel with a string instrument. I know I did. You could probably slice an egg with one.

I have a boring modestly cheap knife, that I swipe with a boring knife sharpener before each use, and it cuts as well as I need any knife to.

The salad spinner is like a colander in a bowl with the plunger. You put your soggy salad in the colander and plung plung plung till the colander spins at a high rate of knots, flinging the water off the leaves. Bad Cat scarpers the moment it comes out of the cupboard (not sure why, it's not noisy, unlike her other kitchen nemesis, Mademoiselle Magimix). I know the other solution to soggy greens is not to eat them, but I like my greens. Not sure how else to dry them without a faff.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 10:13:45 am
According to my very big OED subscription, mandolin is an accepted spelling (the original British spelling, -e came from the US)

Mandoline is from the French, surely? It being a French invention. Or so I've always assumed... A quick bit of googling throws up much folklore but few hard facts, so that may be nonsense.

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I know someone would seize on the confusion

This is yacf. It's what we do.

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I have a boring modestly cheap knife, that I swipe with a boring knife sharpener before each use, and it cuts as well as I need any knife to.

Tbh, I think a good chef's knife is as much about the size, shape and weight as the sharpness of the blade. It needs to feel balanced in your hand. The one I use certainly fits this description. It's a Richardson of Sheffield*, which my wife has had since before I knew her. Must be over 30 years old. Not absolute top of the range stuff - wouldn't have been cheap, but not outrageously expensive either. Just a dependable, well-made knife. Other knives have come and gone over the years, but this one endures. (It's part of a set - the carving knife also still sees regular use for Sunday joints, and the filleting knife is also excellent, though used less often.)

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The salad spinner is like a colander in a bowl with the plunger. You put your soggy salad in the colander and plung plung plung till the colander spins at a high rate of knots, flinging the water off the leaves. Bad Cat scarpers the moment it comes out of the cupboard (not sure why, it's not noisy, unlike her other kitchen nemesis, Mademoiselle Magimix). I know the other solution to soggy greens is not to eat them, but I like my greens. Not sure how else to dry them without a faff.

Using a salad spinner sounds like a lot of faff to me. I usually just leave the lettuce to drain in a colander after washing. Maybe shake it a little to help get rid of any excess, but certainly doesn't need a special gadget for the job.


*the internet tells me the name now exists only as a brand owned by another company.  ::-)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nuttycyclist on 09 June, 2021, 10:24:25 am
As a small boy I loved the opportunity to spin the salad at my grandmother's.

We used to drain the salad in a colander, until I spotted a spinner in the supermarket and bought it much to Mrs Nutty's confusion.  Then the light dawned and she realised the benefit of a properly washed but dry salad.  Washed, then dried, then on the plate within seconds.

The mini-Nuttys now love to spin the salad as I did way back when I was their size.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 09 June, 2021, 10:27:14 am
My Baby Boa Constrictor strap wrench.

Means EVERY and jar is openable, without damaging the top/lid.

I've often thought of buying a second one, to hold the jar itself.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 09 June, 2021, 10:39:08 am
Using a salad spinner sounds like a lot of faff to me. I usually just leave the lettuce to drain in a colander after washing. Maybe shake it a little to help get rid of any excess, but certainly doesn't need a special gadget for the job.

My dad used to put the salad in a clean tea-towel and whirl it round his head in the garden.  My mum did not approve: "be your age!"

---o0o---

One of my favourite kitchen things is a plain straight wooden spatula with the business end cut on the slant.  My standard tools for sautée-ing anything are that in one hand and a sharp dessert fork in the other.

Another is a portable gas burner - we haven't got town gas here - that I use for the wok.  I don't like our wok, though: it has a broad flat bottom and is no good for proper stir-frying. I want a 2-handled round-bottom one with a ring.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 10:40:04 am
a properly washed but dry salad

Lettuce is over 90% water. A few more drops on the surface of the leaves surely doesn't make much difference?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 10:57:13 am
According to my very big OED subscription, mandolin is an accepted spelling (the original British spelling, -e came from the US)

Mandoline is from the French, surely? It being a French invention. Or so I've always assumed... A quick bit of googling throws up much folklore but few hard facts, so that may be nonsense.

It probably is French, which traversed the Atlantic to the US (it's the OED, so English definitions). Actually, I couldn't remember how to spell it, so I asked the computer, and it suggested both, so I picked the one that I knew one of you would confuse. I would be suitably terrified of a woman with a silicon breast implant, of course.

Trust me on the dry salad, it's revelatory, you can't properly dress wet leaves. I eat a couple of salads a week, so it sees literally heavy rotation. It's also good for chef's bane (aka coriander, which when wet and chopped, sticks to every bloody thing, hence the name). I've never found leaving lettuce and leaves to drain to be successful. My other approach is to stick them through the cat flap and shake, but that just distributes bits of salad across the patio. A splendid Nicoise was served last night, pan-seared tuna, jersey new potatoes, steamed green beans, semi-hard boiled eggs on a bed of washed and dried and dressed spinach and some other chopped salad veg. Crisped up some capers in the pan, added tarragon, a little dijon mustard, and oil. Let that cool, add creme fraiche, and then dress the salad with it. The only thing that would have improved it was eating it outside a cafe in the south of France rather than our living room.

The all-round chef's knife I use is from Sheffield too, it's been around for a while as I bought it when I lived in Sheffield.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 09 June, 2021, 11:01:47 am
The most useful thing I have is a Breville hot water dispenser
https://www.breville.co.uk/breakfast/hot-water-dispensers/hotcup-with-variable-dispense-gloss-black/VKJ318-01.html#start=3

Mrs Scum has weak hands and could not lift a kettle of boiling water. It is easy to put a cup below the spout of this thing and get a cuppa by just pressing a button.

What's the temperature like?  Barakta may be in the market for such a thing, for broadly similar reasons.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 09 June, 2021, 12:33:54 pm
a properly washed but dry salad

Lettuce is over 90% water. A few more drops on the surface of the leaves surely doesn't make much difference?

It stops dressing adhering properly.

Anyway. My kitchen is full of things, including a salad spinner. My favourites, in no particular order:


The mandoline I had was terrible and I freecycled it. Never got around to replacing it, but I keep meaning to. I will carry on slicing potatoes by hand for my dauphinoise until I do.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 01:00:15 pm
I could slice my fennel with a knife and probably get the same effect, but there's something curiously satisfying about doing it on the mandolin(e). I blame those rhythmic hand motions. Mademoiselle Magimix will do it for me (slicing, not rhythmic hand motions, she's might be French but she's not that kind of girl, not unless you want to end up in A&E), but it's too much faff having to wash the bowl and attachment.

It's ideal for veg in salad or on top of a pizza, especially as you can vary the thickness, fennels can be relatively thin, but courgette and watery veg need to the thicker or they turn to sludge.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 09 June, 2021, 01:08:08 pm
I do intend to get one eventually, although I find doing it by hand very satisfying.

I forgot to add my Atlas pasta machine to my list. I love fresh pasta. My favourite is ravioli stuffed with haggis and egg yolk in a brown butter, sage and walnut sauce.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 09 June, 2021, 03:34:47 pm

Oh, And my gralefruit knife.
Gralefruit = typo in the lunchtime menu of one of the episodes of Fawlty Towers.


A grapefruit knife!  I've not seen one of those for ages.  Probably about the time my family stopped eating grapefruit due to my fathers blood pressure medication.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 09 June, 2021, 03:58:16 pm
I can't eat grapefruit either, as I'm on daily anti-histamines.

I'm not sure how widely known it is that you shouldn't eat grapefruit (or have the juice) if you're taking hayfever medication, but there you go.

I used to have a grapefruit knife. You can still get them.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 09 June, 2021, 04:04:08 pm
The last time I drank grapefruit juice it felt like I'd stripped the enamel off my teeth, so I've avoided it ever since.   
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 05:04:42 pm
Don't inadvertently mistake the grapefruit juice carton for the milk and put it in your coffee, wander back to your office, and take a big gulp.

As they say in tasting circles, citrus notes.

Grapefruit juice (all citrus, there's just generally more in grapefruit) contains a category of chemicals called psoralens which inhibit a key form of cytochrome p450 (an enzyme, mostly in the liver) that is involved in drug metabolism, so those drugs normally broken down by this cytochrome build up in the system and have a much longer half-life.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 05:21:07 pm
OT: whereas this word always makes me think of Vivian Stanshall on Tubular Bells.  As does “pangolin”.  I'd pay good money to watch Mike Oldfield trying to play a pangolin.

So, thanks to you, Mr L, not only have I had Tubular Bells as an earworm all afternoon, I've been driving myself mad by trying to replace all the names of instruments with names of animals*. I've run aground though - I got as far as "two slightly taller giraffes" and that has broken me. I can't carry on. I am officially useless for the rest of the day.


*surprised Weird Al Yankovic hasn't done this already.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 05:25:31 pm
Plus…

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My work here is done. Goodnight.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Pingu on 09 June, 2021, 05:32:19 pm
Reed and pine bunting?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 09 June, 2021, 05:41:35 pm
My Baby Boa Constrictor strap wrench.
Means EVERY and jar is openable, without damaging the top/lid.
I've often thought of buying a second one, to hold the jar itself.

Might be a tad awkward to stop them unravelling but these things are hardly expensive or bulky, unlike some things mentioned upthread. You could splash out!

Given that you live in France, where screw cap bulbs abound, you could justify one for lamp fittings...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 09 June, 2021, 06:12:09 pm
Reed and pine bunting?

Excellent!  ;D

Now, how about coming up with one for glockenspiel? (starting to think this needs to be split off into a thread of its own...)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 09 June, 2021, 07:42:10 pm
Goldfinches
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 07:54:16 pm
And finally, a topic I start becomes too cryptic even for me to understand.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Ham on 09 June, 2021, 07:56:41 pm
So much stuff. I'm fortunate to have a well equipped kitchen with many things that do their job well, and are satisfying, like exoglass bread tins, microplane graters, magimix, they are all favourites in their own ways but not so much to call out as favourite.

So.

#1 has to be my dick knives (https://www.nisbets.co.uk/kitchenware-and-knives/chefs-knives/dick-knives/dick-premier-plus-knives/_/a33-4)

After that, coffee production kit (Rancillio & Eureka) is a relatively recent addition, and much appreciated. My venerable pressed steel frying pan would be very hard to replace and sees a lot of service. Otherwise, favourites tend to be little things picked up around the world, like a lime squeezer from Mexico, a cherry stoner from a French market, a falafel plonker from Jerusalem (what would you call something that shapes the mixture and plonks it in the oil?), you get the idea.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 June, 2021, 08:14:59 pm
Reed and pine bunting?

Excellent!  ;D

Now, how about coming up with one for glockenspiel? (starting to think this needs to be split off into a thread of its own...)

“Grand piano” is obviously “Giant panda”.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 09 June, 2021, 08:18:52 pm
So much stuff. I'm fortunate to have a well equipped kitchen with many things that do their job well, and are satisfying, like exoglass bread tins, microplane graters, magimix, they are all favourites in their own ways but not so much to call out as favourite.

So.

#1 has to be my dick knives (https://www.nisbets.co.uk/kitchenware-and-knives/chefs-knives/dick-knives/dick-premier-plus-knives/_/a33-4)


A well handled Dick is an impressive thing.  There are plenty of interesting instructional videos available on the web.......   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bvHHxu4Dg
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rafletcher on 09 June, 2021, 08:57:06 pm
Hmm. Probably the Brabantia sauté pan we bought as an add-on to a sofa from Cargo nearly 20 years ago. The food processor that my wife bought 30 or so years ago. The Prestige pressure cooker. And the Jamie Oliver knife block set, adequate for my needs.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 09:19:43 pm
I had a wobbly stainless steel pan (I think we inherited it from my wife's grandmother when she went into a home) – I suspect it might have gone back to WW2, the rivets were coming loose. Still, I can't look up these days without seeing a bloody Spitfire, so I guess some stuff lasts. Anyway, I neglected using it because I figured at some point the important pan part of it would – complete with hot food – fall on my toes. Probably better than a Spitfire though.

That pair of replacement stainless steel pans I bought the other week have been awesome though. I got a lot of fond going on. They're proper heavy enough to spang a charging rhino into insensibility. If I dropped one I'd probably crack the Earth's crust and Kent would fall into the sea.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nuttycyclist on 09 June, 2021, 10:00:29 pm
....And the Jamie Oliver knife block set, adequate for my needs.

Does it come with the obligatory drizzle of olive oil?     
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 09 June, 2021, 10:04:21 pm
I like Jamie Oliver. I'd keep him in my kitchen.

Of all the chefs I'd like to have dinner with, Anthony Bourdain is still winning. I'm not planning to be early for that meal though.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: geoff on 09 June, 2021, 11:07:42 pm
Props to those stainless steel pans. Carbon steel Sabatier knife here, decades  old but the only reliable way to slice tomatoes.
Otherwise, wooden spoons... (impossible to stir pots with anything else) , chopping boards and our swoony gold-flecked black granite worktops. (But don't get me started on the spice drawers...)

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Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 10 June, 2021, 07:43:35 am
According to my very big OED subscription, mandolin is an accepted spelling (the original British spelling, -e came from the US), though I know someone would seize on the confusion and imagine me attacking fennel with a string instrument. I know I did. You could probably slice an egg with one.

Or you might persuade a pedant to strum the kitchen variety. ;D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 10 June, 2021, 07:50:27 am
My Baby Boa Constrictor strap wrench.
Means EVERY and jar is openable, without damaging the top/lid.
I've often thought of buying a second one, to hold the jar itself.

Might be a tad awkward to stop them unravelling but these things are hardly expensive or bulky, unlike some things mentioned upthread. You could splash out!

Given that you live in France, where screw cap bulbs abound, you could justify one for lamp fittings...

Funnily enough, the most recalcitrant bulbs I've come across have been the bayonet-cap variety, where the solder contacts have softened and espoused the shape of the contacts in the socket. Given that you have to push in and then twist hard, the chances of leaving the cap in the socket are much higher than with an Edison screw.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 10 June, 2021, 09:06:58 am
The bread knife we bought from a French supermarket a decade or so ago.
My Le Creuset cast iron grill pan
An Ikea chefs knife that never fails to take an edge and I use for cutting up most things
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 June, 2021, 09:32:57 am
Apropos of sous-vide, which I think is basically a foot spa you are using to cook food (and I don't have either, but if someone gives me an excuse), I asked myself what are the best things in my kitchen:

  • […] mandolin

OT: whereas this word always makes me think of Vivian Stanshall on Tubular Bells.  As does “pangolin”.  I'd pay good money to watch Mike Oldfield trying to play a pangolin.
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: L CC on 10 June, 2021, 10:09:57 am
Stick blender. Home made Mayo takes longer to wash the thing than make the mayo.

I bake, so all the measuring spoons.
Also, I love this (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/248022381/stainless-steel-heavy-duty-butter-slicer) which I inherited from my best friend's dad.

My pickled veg I shred in the food processor. But the julienned salads are done with a microplane mandoline. While I wear the glove (https://www.souschef.co.uk/products/microplane-grater-gloves).


Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Salvatore on 10 June, 2021, 10:17:51 am
Slow cooker.
Mango slicer.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rafletcher on 10 June, 2021, 10:32:48 am
....And the Jamie Oliver knife block set, adequate for my needs.

Does it come with the obligatory drizzle of olive oil?     

Nope, a dash of red wine vinegar  ;)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 10 June, 2021, 01:07:51 pm
Some years ago I read a remark made by a bloke entering someone else's kitchen and noticing the knife block: "... a terrible thing to do to good knives".

I can imagine that carbon steel knives shoved damp into a block would rust PDQ, but how else might a knife suffer?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: TimC on 10 June, 2021, 01:33:39 pm
Artificial incarceration. They should be allowed to roam free!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 10 June, 2021, 03:30:57 pm
Mine are all attached to the wall on magnetic strips. Just letting it all hang out, as it were.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 10 June, 2021, 03:39:03 pm
Doesn't the strip scratch them, or is it sheathed in something?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 10 June, 2021, 03:39:50 pm
I throw mine in the drawer with the other knives. It's survival of the fittest in my kitchen.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Legs on 10 June, 2021, 04:15:43 pm
Another vote for slow cooker.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Tim Hall on 10 June, 2021, 04:19:18 pm
I throw mine in the drawer with the other knives. It's survival of the fittest in my kitchen.
I throw mine in the door.

Chefs do that. (https://youtu.be/B02dsLGLw4E)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 10 June, 2021, 05:03:53 pm
Doesn't the strip scratch them, or is it sheathed in something?

Nope. It's powerful enough to hold them still, and I'm careful not to drag them but just pull them free. Got ours from these guys:

https://www.bisbellmagnets.com/

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: mike on 10 June, 2021, 05:22:43 pm
 They're all 'things' so its wrong to say I'm attached, but the three things I took with me when I got divorced were a 12" cast iron frying pan that gets used almost every day, an 8" IOShen chefs knife and my aeropress coffee thing.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Pingu on 10 June, 2021, 05:35:18 pm
Another vote for slow cooker.

Keeping knives in a slow cooker  ???





 ;)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: spesh on 10 June, 2021, 05:37:55 pm
Artificial incarceration. They should be allowed to roam free!

#KitchenKnivesMatter
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Blodwyn Pig on 10 June, 2021, 05:41:14 pm
Fridge! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 11 June, 2021, 10:48:30 am
The most useful thing I have is a Breville hot water dispenser
https://www.breville.co.uk/breakfast/hot-water-dispensers/hotcup-with-variable-dispense-gloss-black/VKJ318-01.html#start=3

Mrs Scum has weak hands and could not lift a kettle of boiling water. It is easy to put a cup below the spout of this thing and get a cuppa by just pressing a button.

What's the temperature like?  Barakta may be in the market for such a thing, for broadly similar reasons.
The thing seems to work by siphoning a quantity of water into a heating chamber.
I would say the temperature is hot but not as hot as a kettle on a rolling boil. Perfect for making coffee and tea.





Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rafletcher on 11 June, 2021, 10:56:49 am

I would say the temperature is hot but not as hot as a kettle on a rolling boil. Perfect for making...  tea.

Heresy!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 June, 2021, 11:32:59 am

I would say the temperature is hot but not as hot as a kettle on a rolling boil. Perfect for making...  tea.

Heresy!

This ^^^^.

“Pour boiling water over the tea/How simple and clear can the instructions be?” (https://youtu.be/DTuXBoA688Y), as Mr Baker put it.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2021, 12:07:14 pm
I'm sure I read somewhere that the optimum temperature for making tea is 98ºC. The water from those hot tap things is fine for the purpose, IME. Just don't do the American trick of serving a cup of warm water with a teabag on the side.  :sick:

In other news, I've been using the pangolin this morning to slice aubergines for involtini. One of those jobs you can do by hand with a chef's knife, but the dedicated tool makes it quicker, easier and gives much neater, more even results.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 11 June, 2021, 12:15:06 pm
In other news, I've been using the pangolin this morning to slice aubergines ...
;D :D :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: spesh on 11 June, 2021, 12:24:08 pm
I'd have thought that the scales on a pangolin make it of more use as a grater... ;)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 11 June, 2021, 12:27:54 pm
I'm sure I read somewhere that the optimum temperature for making tea is 98ºC. The water from those hot tap things is fine for the purpose, IME. Just don't do the American trick of serving a cup of warm water with a teabag on the side.  :sick:

I have had that American liquid they describe as tea. It was awful.

Strictly speaking, we are segueing into the realms of tea nerdery. Your standard British cuppa (largely an Assam blend) should be made with boiling water for full flavour extraction, but the full boil is really aimed at loose leaf tea, and not the dust that passes for proper tea in supermarket loose leaf tea boxes (I'm not even all that keen on Twinings). Once you start considering white and green teas, herbals, pu-erh and the like, it becomes more complicated.

The UK Tea and Infusions Associations specifies 90-98 degrees for black tea, but they don't differentiate between large loose leaf, shredded loose leaf, or tea bags, so frankly I don't think they are to be trusted.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2021, 12:38:40 pm
The UK Tea and Infusions Associations specifies 90-98 degrees for black tea, but they don't differentiate between large loose leaf, shredded loose leaf, or tea bags, so frankly I don't think they are to be trusted.

I imagine an organisation that prides itself on taking tea seriously won't demean itself by admitting that tea bags are even tea (in the same way that "instant coffee" is not coffee).

At my last but one job, the office kitchen was furnished with a Zipp tap, and I found it fine for making tea. Never took the temperature of the water though. The only problem was that the office teabags were PG Tips... and the only good thing I can say about PG Tips teabags is that they're not Typhoo.

I'm rather partial to a cup of lapsang souchong, and that definitely benefits from water somewhat below boiling point.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 11 June, 2021, 01:10:18 pm
I'm rather partial to a cup of lapsang souchong, and that definitely benefits from water somewhat below boiling point.

I drink a lot of that myself, and I find it depends on the individual tea. A Formosa can definitely be too piney if you go for a full-on roiling boil, but the regular Whittard's stuff seems to need the extra oomph to get the full extraction. Oddly, I find Whittard's Russian Caravan responds better to being just off the boil, but Bird & Blend's Smokey Russian (theoretically the same tea) has a better flavour profile with actual boiling water.

I've gone as far as taking the temperature inside my kettle after it has boiled to see how long it takes to drop, and it's longer than I thought. I've come to the conclusion that bubble vigour and size has a lot to do with it, not just the temperature.

I suppose it also depends on whether you take your tea with milk, which I do not.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 June, 2021, 01:28:50 pm
I'm sure I read somewhere that the optimum temperature for making tea is 98ºC. The water from those hot tap things is fine for the purpose, IME. Just don't do the American trick of serving a cup of warm water with a teabag on the side.  :sick:

I have had that American liquid they describe as tea. It was awful.


This Unit hereby endorses this product, service or sentiment, and has acquired the habit of packing a travel kettle and supply of Proper Tea when sojourning in Leftpondia.  Picture, if you will, my despondency when Kettle v1.0 died on its arse in Alpine TX with a Several of days remaining before my return to the land of Proper Tea (and voles sturdy enow to boil water in under 24 hours).  Weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth was just the start.

Though Canuckistani branches* of Safeway do sell Yorkshire Tea, which is a Good Thing if you get your “How many teabags do I need” calculation hopelessly wrong.

* sample size: 1
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 11 June, 2021, 01:38:25 pm
Americans boil water on their 'stove top' with a proper whistling kettle. Everyone knows there's not enough electricity in the US to power electric kettles.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 11 June, 2021, 01:47:53 pm

I'm rather partial to a cup of lapsang souchong, and that definitely benefits from water somewhat below boiling point.
I also enjoy the occasional cup of laspang. I took some into work, a while back.
'Ah!' My line manager observed, 'Tea from the middle ages'.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 11 June, 2021, 02:04:35 pm
Once during the middle of a night ride (FNRTTC?) we brewed up & I gave Wowbagger some Lapsang Souchong (Twinings bag).  I don't recall him being very impressed ...... :D


I'll need to put another order in.  I've run out of Darjeeling.    https://liverpoolteawarehouse.com



Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 11 June, 2021, 02:41:01 pm
The Twinings Lapsang tastes of dust and regret. I do rate the Formosa Lapsang Souchong from the Algerian Coffee Store in that London.

When I used to have it at work, people always accused me of drinking whisky.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2021, 02:46:46 pm
When I used to have it at work, people always accused me of drinking whisky.

Is that not just to do with being Scottish though?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 11 June, 2021, 02:47:58 pm
All Lapsang Souchong tastes like hot water that has been strained through a tramp's mouldering underpant gusset.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2021, 02:49:37 pm
I'd have thought that the scales on a pangolin make it of more use as a grater... ;)

You don't use its scales, you wally - you use its razor sharp claws.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 11 June, 2021, 02:50:10 pm
All Lapsang Souchong tastes like hot water that has been strained through a tramp's mouldering underpant gusset.

Who do you think you are, Jilly Goolden?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 11 June, 2021, 03:04:45 pm
Never heard of her, but I like her concept of getting paid to get pissed and tell stories.

I'm in the wrong job.

Is it beer o'clock yet?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 11 June, 2021, 04:12:43 pm
Quote
Just don't do the American trick of serving a cup of warm water with a teabag on the side.  :sick:

The same is done in Israel. My advice to a first time would-be traveller was 'Avoid tea'. Some questioned this.

I stand by it...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 11 June, 2021, 04:15:41 pm
Back when Brewdog were going through their phase of having an infuser beer tap at the bar, I had the misfortune to try a beer which had lapsang souchong soaking in it. I did not like, so I have never been tempted to try it as tea.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 11 June, 2021, 04:28:34 pm
Quote
Just don't do the American trick of serving a cup of warm water with a teabag on the side.  :sick:

The same is done in Israel. My advice to a first time would-be traveller was 'Avoid tea'. Some questioned this.

I stand by it...
And Poland, at least in cafes, maybe not so much at home. I think it's quite common in various places around the world.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 11 June, 2021, 04:42:43 pm
Back when Brewdog were going through their phase of having an infuser beer tap at the bar, I had the misfortune to try a beer which had lapsang souchon soaking in it. I did not like, so I have never been tempted to try it as tea.

Good plan. I like quite a lot of teas but lapsang souchon is horrid.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 11 June, 2021, 04:45:15 pm
Back when Brewdog were going through their phase of having an infuser beer tap at the bar, I had the misfortune to try a beer which had lapsang souchon soaking in it. I did not like, so I have never been tempted to try it as tea.

Knowing your taste in tea, it's not one I would offer you.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 11 June, 2021, 04:56:56 pm
Wonder what it would be like in a sausage...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 June, 2021, 06:16:12 pm
Americans boil water on their 'stove top' with a proper whistling kettle. Everyone knows there's not enough electricity in the US to power electric kettles.

I have mentioned before the impressive selection of full-size* anbaric kettles available from Messrs. Target in El Paso and similar devices in hotel rooms in divers locations in Canuckistan, so they’re not totally ignorant of the state of the water-heating art.

* The Luggage was too full to contemplate the acquisition of one of these and my Yorkshire soul would not permit me to buy one only to abandon it in Walsenburg CO a few days later.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 11 June, 2021, 08:01:22 pm
I always had a stovetop kettle when I lived there, though ironically the oven was electric the first time around (jesus-louise-ous, have you seen the cables they use to wire up a US oven?)

I once literally fell from the sky over El Paso.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 11 June, 2021, 09:01:37 pm
I has a stove-top kettle for when the electricity fails, as happens not infrequently in this corner of Outer Suburbia.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 June, 2021, 01:00:21 am
I once literally fell from the sky over El Paso.

Well, no-one would go there by choice.  Would they?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nicknack on 12 June, 2021, 08:22:49 am
I once literally fell from the sky over El Paso.

Well, no-one would go there by choice.  Would they?
Hmm... One of my cousins moved there, shortly followed by her mother. They were previously living in Gillingham, Kent.

Yes, I see what you mean.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 14 June, 2021, 01:23:10 pm
I have finally purchsed a decent sharpening stone for my (mediocre) kitchen knives. What a difference. Tomatoes are cut instead of being bounced off. Happy bunny.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 24 June, 2021, 11:03:18 pm
I have finally purchsed a decent sharpening stone for my (mediocre) kitchen knives. What a difference. Tomatoes are cut instead of being bounced off. Happy bunny.

I have a few cheap combination stones but worry about getting the angles right.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 24 June, 2021, 11:04:05 pm
Collected an instant pot and I am excited....so for the next week it is instant pot meals ;)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Ham on 25 June, 2021, 08:05:36 am
Did you get all three flavours?

(https://www.potnoodle.com/sk-eu/content/dam/brands/pot_noodle/global_use/1726721-potnoodlenormal.png.rendition.586.315.png)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 25 June, 2021, 09:11:00 am
I forgot to add an egg perfect egg timer. The sort you stick in the pan with eggs. Brilliant as it doesn't matter if you start with cold water or boiling water or anything in between.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 25 June, 2021, 09:52:43 am
Did you get all three flavours?

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Bombay Bad Boy or nothing for me.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 25 June, 2021, 09:56:57 am
I have finally purchsed a decent sharpening stone for my (mediocre) kitchen knives. What a difference. Tomatoes are cut instead of being bounced off. Happy bunny.

I have a few cheap combination stones but worry about getting the angles right.

Came with a slip on guide.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 25 June, 2021, 10:51:14 pm
Did you get all three flavours?

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Bombay Bad Boy or nothing for me.

Don't you know it...

But there is pulled pork and spare rib flavour too.
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Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 25 June, 2021, 10:54:07 pm
(https://www.instantpot.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/WM_110-0002-02_Duo3Qt_WhiteLED_badge.jpg)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jaded on 26 June, 2021, 09:05:40 am
Is that a Lapsang souchong ice cream maker?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 27 June, 2021, 11:43:54 am
Don't you know it...

But there is pulled pork and spare rib flavour too.
(https://www.simpleskincare.com/sk-eu/content/dam/brands/pot_noodle/united_kingdom/1641087-8718114797977.png)

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IRTA "pulled spork".  ;D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: L CC on 02 July, 2021, 03:42:03 pm
(https://www.instantpot.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/WM_110-0002-02_Duo3Qt_WhiteLED_badge.jpg)

I didn't like ours. It didn't intensify flavours in cooking. The only thing it was good for was making chicken stock without stinking the house up
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 02 July, 2021, 04:00:31 pm
You can do this with it too:

(https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/171294334.jpg)

Of course, the soup tastes a bit like candles afterwards.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 04 July, 2021, 01:39:41 pm
You can do this with it too:

(https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/171294334.jpg)

Of course, the soup tastes a bit like candles afterwards.

I have a slow cooker just for that....but not used it yet.  Only been two years.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 04 July, 2021, 02:08:41 pm
(https://www.instantpot.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/WM_110-0002-02_Duo3Qt_WhiteLED_badge.jpg)

I didn't like ours. It didn't intensify flavours in cooking. The only thing it was good for was making chicken stock without stinking the house up

So far I have only cooked brocoli and my version of the instant pot butter chicken.

What you say about bland seems true, on the pressure setting.  Then I only used gram marsalam and corriander powders.
Title: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 14 July, 2021, 09:05:46 pm
My wife came home with an Instant Pot yesterday. She seemed disappointed that I didn’t share her excitement.

But I had two questions:
1. What do we need it for?
2. Do we have space in our kitchen for yet another gadget?

And a further question:
3. Did you not wonder why the friend who gave it to you absolutely free was so keen to get rid of it?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 July, 2021, 08:03:42 am
I had to look up Instant Pot. So, it's an electric pressure cooker. We had a pressure cooker in India (not electric – cooking with electricity would be pretty useless in a country where the power goes off at least once a day – just a simple sealed pot which we put on top of the gas stove). It got lots of use, they I can't remember exactly what we used it for, but I do seem to recall lots of chick peas.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: L CC on 15 July, 2021, 08:07:31 am
Combined pressure cooker and slow cooker.

Ours is in the garage.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 July, 2021, 08:56:08 am
Combined pressure cooker and slow cooker.
Ingenious. What happens if you engage both modes at once?  :D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 15 July, 2021, 09:04:42 am
Combined pressure cooker and slow cooker.
Ingenious. What happens if you engage both modes at once?  :D

That's why it's in the garage.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 15 July, 2021, 09:15:01 am
Playing misère: my most-hated kitchen thing is the marble slab MrsT insisted on having built in when we redid the kitchen in 2003. The bloody thing takes up a great chunk of working surface and it's vulnerable to impacts, heat and any kind of grease.  We can work on it with a chopping-board on top but FFS hammer your steak somewhere else. Should have got granite: it was twice the price but what I've paid in aggro since would have been worth ten times that.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 15 July, 2021, 09:35:13 am
I had to look up Instant Pot. So, it's an electric pressure cooker. We had a pressure cooker in India (not electric – cooking with electricity would be pretty useless in a country where the power goes off at least once a day – just a simple sealed pot which we put on top of the gas stove). It got lots of use, they I can't remember exactly what we used it for, but I do seem to recall lots of chick peas.

We still have a proper old-fashioned stove-top pressure cooker, and it gets plenty of use. Chick peas are one of the main things we cook in it. Also beans (most commonly black or pinto). They're perfect for that kind of thing. Because it has to fit in all the electric gubbins, the Instant Pot has a much smaller capacity, so I don't think I would be inclined to use it for pressure cooking.

We also have a dedicated slow cooker, which is very basic - really just a pot with a lid and a simple heating element in the base. Overall size is similar to the Instant Pot, but again with much greater capacity because it has less gubbins.

My wife has already used the Instant Pot to make yoghurt and it seems to have turned out very well, so maybe it can justify its existence for that purpose alone (she does get though a lot of yoghurt).
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: L CC on 15 July, 2021, 01:54:33 pm
My wife has already used the Instant Pot to make yoghurt and it seems to have turned out very well, so maybe it can justify its existence for that purpose alone (she does get though a lot of yoghurt).
I have a hefty yoghurt habit but when you have to pay cold hard cash for your milk and cream, even at supermarket prices Yeo makes Greek cheaper than I can. I'm doubtful I'd make it tastier.
BITD when I lived next to 200 dairy cows and the milk came free with the husband it was a different story.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 15 July, 2021, 09:31:19 pm
The Instant Pot's killer application seems to be enabling people with ADHD to do Real Cooking without burning things.

Probably handy for terrorism too, what with the built-in timer.   :demon:

(I had a traumatic encounter with a pressure cooker as a small, and regard them all with deep suspicion.)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: andrewc on 15 July, 2021, 09:42:52 pm
I’ve mainly used mine for cooking rice & steaming veg. In an open plan flat it’s ideal for that. Just load & leave.  More complicated things such as stews & risottos have come out well,  but I have to be in the mood for that sort of stuff.   It’s pretty versatile & the sauté function lets you fry stuff in a deep pan without splatter.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 15 July, 2021, 10:08:42 pm
I wondered if people bought them that were afraid of traditional pressure cookers.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Tim Hall on 15 July, 2021, 10:16:56 pm
My traditional pressure cooker, inherited from my parents, has a slightly convex base.  I'm wondering whether I should worry.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 15 July, 2021, 10:19:04 pm
Not used my Prestige PC since I sprayed the kitchen ceiling with an assortment of pea and ham.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 16 July, 2021, 09:16:41 am
Not used my Prestige PC since I sprayed the kitchen ceiling with an assortment of pea and ham.
The "truly terrible jokes" thread has never made me laugh that hard!  ;D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 16 July, 2021, 11:00:00 am
(I had a traumatic encounter with a pressure cooker as a small, and regard them all with deep suspicion.)

Dorothy Hartleys's Food in England has a paragraph about pre-20th-century cook-pot deaths due to them being used as pressure cookers, with the lid roped on tightly and the rim sealed with pastry.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 20 July, 2021, 02:25:10 am
My wife came home with an Instant Pot yesterday. She seemed disappointed that I didn’t share her excitement.

But I had two questions:
1. What do we need it for?
2. Do we have space in our kitchen for yet another gadget?

And a further question:
3. Did you not wonder why the friend who gave it to you absolutely free was so keen to get rid of it?

Hey Mrs citoyen and I can talk and see what we can do with our new toys.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 20 July, 2021, 02:28:28 am
I wondered if people bought them that were afraid of traditional pressure cookers.

I'm not really sure how to cook with a pressure cooker.   The GF had one, when we started going out, that had a broken seal and blocked safety valve.  So the pot never got to pressure.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 20 July, 2021, 05:17:34 am
Hey Mrs citoyen and I can talk and see what we can do with our new toys.

Please no - I don’t want to encourage her! ;)

Actually, I’m slowly coming round to the idea of the Instant Pot. It’s mainly the clogging up space the kitchen with yet more gadgets that bothers me.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 20 July, 2021, 08:50:46 am
My wife came home with an Instant Pot yesterday. She seemed disappointed that I didn’t share her excitement.

But I had two questions:
1. What do we need it for?
2. Do we have space in our kitchen for yet another gadget?

And a further question:
3. Did you not wonder why the friend who gave it to you absolutely free was so keen to get rid of it?
Seems like an echo of a discussion in our house (bar the free bit).

We have an induction hob with temp settings. So slow cooking can be done using that (although MrsC insists that the temp settings will still burn food, contrary to the evidence).

Despite lots of worktop, there is little space. Nearly all of it completely covered with appliances, jars (so many jars) and ginger beer/wine brewing.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 20 July, 2021, 01:41:08 pm
On a related note, this seems like a reasonable place to grumble about the landlord's elec-chickens coming and relocating the cooker isolator switch so that you didn't have to reach over the cooker[1] to frob it.  As a side-effect we are now down to one double socket on the useful side of the kitchen, and half of that is dedicated to kettle duty.



[1] AIUI this is a relatively new regulation, on the dubious[2] basis that people are in the habit of reaching over hot pans to frob the cooker isolator.  Personally, I'd put it by the doorway you're going to be heading for if something catches fire.
[2] Well, probably those people who turn the cooker off at the isolator every time they use it?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 July, 2021, 01:52:20 pm
If we turned the cooker off, the clock would go off and then the boy would complain that he didn't know what time it was and would be late for school. At least when there is school.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nuttycyclist on 22 July, 2021, 10:13:48 am
On a related note, this seems like a reasonable place to grumble about the landlord's elec-chickens coming and relocating the cooker isolator switch so that you didn't have to reach over the cooker[1] to frob it.  As a side-effect we are now down to one double socket on the useful side of the kitchen, and half of that is dedicated to kettle duty.



[1] AIUI this is a relatively new regulation, on the dubious[2] basis that people are in the habit of reaching over hot pans to frob the cooker isolator.  Personally, I'd put it by the doorway you're going to be heading for if something catches fire.
[2] Well, probably those people who turn the cooker off at the isolator every time they use it?


When we had a new kitchen some years ago I wanted the isolator for the cooker/fridge/freezer/extractor all put out of sight above one of the top cupboards (as was in old house).  Electrician said "not allowed, if you move and an elderly person moves in they won't be able to stand on a chair to reach".   I said "but it's f'ugly".  He said "I know, that's why mine is in a cupboard".

All my switches are therefore easily accessible at knee height in a cupboard, leaving wall space for just the basic five double sockets.  The only time I've had to isolate the cooker was when I had to take it apart (scary lifting the huge glass induction hob and trying not to break it) as one of the control knobs needed replacing.
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Post by: andrewc on 03 August, 2021, 11:50:36 am
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OXO-Grips-Locking-Tongs-Silicone/dp/B003L0OYJ4


I've had these for about a year & I think they definitely belong in this thread.  Ideal for grabbing, flipping or stirring stuff on a hot grill or pan.  Also good for mixing up a bowl of salad ingredients. 
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Post by: Kim on 03 August, 2021, 12:05:23 pm
Speaking of hot grill pans, barakta has a spack-handle piece of assistive technology for picking up hot plates.  It's like a plastic version of a grill pan handle, with silicone knobbles to grip against the ceramic.  Anyway, she was molishing cheese-on-toast, and had stuck the plate under the grill for a minute to finish it off.  Which is how we discovered that the silicone knobbles weren't made of silicone...
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Post by: Jurek on 03 August, 2021, 12:09:16 pm
I have a pair of re-purposed water pump pliers for handling Very Hot Things.
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Post by: citoyen on 03 August, 2021, 12:20:37 pm
Speaking of hot grill pans, barakta has a spack-handle piece of assistive technology for picking up hot plates.  It's like a plastic version of a grill pan handle, with silicone knobbles to grip against the ceramic.  Anyway, she was molishing cheese-on-toast, and had stuck the plate under the grill for a minute to finish it off.  Which is how we discovered that the silicone knobbles weren't made of silicone...

Ouch!

You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant. Might not be suitable for barakta's needs though, I guess, otherwise I assume you'd have already thought of that.

Generally, though, silicone is an excellent choice for all kitchen utensils. My favourite 'wooden' spoon is made of silicone.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 03 August, 2021, 12:55:01 pm
Speaking of hot grill pans, barakta has a spack-handle piece of assistive technology for picking up hot plates.  It's like a plastic version of a grill pan handle, with silicone knobbles to grip against the ceramic.  Anyway, she was molishing cheese-on-toast, and had stuck the plate under the grill for a minute to finish it off.  Which is how we discovered that the silicone knobbles weren't made of silicone...

Ouch!

You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant. Might not be suitable for barakta's needs though, I guess, otherwise I assume you'd have already thought of that.

Yep, we've got some of those.  They're her weapon of choice for oven trays (which tend to be less heavy).  I may have added googly eyes.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 August, 2021, 01:16:37 pm
Speaking of hot grill pans, barakta has a spack-handle piece of assistive technology for picking up hot plates.  It's like a plastic version of a grill pan handle, with silicone knobbles to grip against the ceramic.  Anyway, she was molishing cheese-on-toast, and had stuck the plate under the grill for a minute to finish it off.  Which is how we discovered that the silicone knobbles weren't made of silicone...
So glad to read this, having one minute previously posted:
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I also understand some of the youngper sons and daughters are using "I'm down for that" to express agreement to a proposed activity, whereas I'd use "I'm up for that". Except of course, being an oldper son, I'm probably not upfrit (does this mean frightened? Ed.) unless it's a cup of tea and maybe a cheese and onion toasty.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 03 August, 2021, 04:12:02 pm
Must say how impressed I am with the perfect egg timer thingy bought as a result of a post herein.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 03 August, 2021, 04:40:57 pm
You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant.

We used to have a pair, but if they got water or oil on them they got very slippery. Then they cracked. Finding out was very unpleasant. Nowadays we use tea-towels, but I've just been looking at a pair of professional baker's padded leather gloves (https://www.finarome.com/gants-et-maniques/8523-paire-de-gants-de-boulanger-en-cuir-rembourre-matfer-3334497730124.html) that go right to the elbow.  I might spring for those.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 03 August, 2021, 05:28:21 pm
I have a Philippe Starck lemon juice squeezer.  (https://www.selfridges.com/GB/en/cat/alessi-juicy-salif-citrus-squeezer_874-10106-PSJS/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-HOMETECH-_-ALESSI&POR=Y&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=na_na_pla-b_na_na_na_DOM_PLA-HOMEANDTECH-HOME-SHOPTAIL-CSSTEST-W3&gclid=CjwKCAjw0qOIBhBhEiwAyvVcf1uYqy0q-gPBeKnZr5ycyYd7PeL8gnqvIvxVB2-0PmCh5WJphLPSkhoC5UsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It works remarkably well, in addition to having good looks.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 03 August, 2021, 06:09:04 pm
Speaking of hot grill pans, barakta has a spack-handle piece of assistive technology for picking up hot plates.  It's like a plastic version of a grill pan handle, with silicone knobbles to grip against the ceramic.  Anyway, she was molishing cheese-on-toast, and had stuck the plate under the grill for a minute to finish it off.  Which is how we discovered that the silicone knobbles weren't made of silicone...

Ouch!

You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant. Might not be suitable for barakta's needs though, I guess, otherwise I assume you'd have already thought of that.

Yep, we've got some of those.  They're her weapon of choice for oven trays (which tend to be less heavy).  I may have added googly eyes.

This needs a photo...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 August, 2021, 06:22:30 pm
Still on the lookout for one of these:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51355807989_474156f7ea.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mf8Wvk)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Pingu on 03 August, 2021, 08:53:59 pm
Wow, I've always dreamt of banana adhesion at the flick of a switch.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 August, 2021, 09:16:40 pm
Sad to say that Ron 'Ronco' Popeil died a few days ago (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/business/ron-popeil-dead.html), though it seems the company is still going under a different owner. I'm pleased to see the Pocket Fisherman is still a thing for, you know, when you are standing by some water and have a few moments and think blimey, I fancy catching a fish. Going anywhere with a fully extended rod is just so awkward.

I'm pretty sure we had a Buttoneer (basically a device for those disinclined to sew a button on*) and a smokeless ashtray (which cruelly neglected all the smoke my parents emitted when they were not resting their cigarette on the ashtray).

He also invented the concept of compilation albums, a brilliant hair restorative (basically spray paint for your bald patch), the egg scrambler that would scramble an egg inside the shell, not to mention the first consumer karaoke machine, and pretty much wrote the script for late-night TV infomercials, thus providing a valuable service anyone who'd started the evening by washing down a handful of vicodin or oxy with vodka. Wow, I spent on $99 on, well, I'm not sure what it is or what it does.

*I have no idea why we had this, my mother sewed stuff for a living, probably she was sick of sewing.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 August, 2021, 11:52:58 pm
Sad to say that Ron 'Ronco' Popeil died a few days ago (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/business/ron-popeil-dead.html), though it seems the company is still going under a different owner.

I'll take your word for it, as they want me to register.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 04 August, 2021, 07:41:19 am
We had a Chop-o-Matic in my humble West Norwood childhood home.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 04 August, 2021, 08:06:17 am
I have a Philippe Starck lemon juice squeezer.  (https://www.selfridges.com/GB/en/cat/alessi-juicy-salif-citrus-squeezer_874-10106-PSJS/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-HOMETECH-_-ALESSI&POR=Y&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=na_na_pla-b_na_na_na_DOM_PLA-HOMEANDTECH-HOME-SHOPTAIL-CSSTEST-W3&gclid=CjwKCAjw0qOIBhBhEiwAyvVcf1uYqy0q-gPBeKnZr5ycyYd7PeL8gnqvIvxVB2-0PmCh5WJphLPSkhoC5UsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It works remarkably well, in addition to having good looks.

Juicy price.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 04 August, 2021, 08:26:40 am
I have a Philippe Starck lemon juice squeezer.  (https://www.selfridges.com/GB/en/cat/alessi-juicy-salif-citrus-squeezer_874-10106-PSJS/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-HOMETECH-_-ALESSI&POR=Y&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=na_na_pla-b_na_na_na_DOM_PLA-HOMEANDTECH-HOME-SHOPTAIL-CSSTEST-W3&gclid=CjwKCAjw0qOIBhBhEiwAyvVcf1uYqy0q-gPBeKnZr5ycyYd7PeL8gnqvIvxVB2-0PmCh5WJphLPSkhoC5UsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
It works remarkably well, in addition to having good looks.

Juicy price.
Not when its a gift.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 04 August, 2021, 02:20:24 pm
After grumbling about how rubbish our pepper grinder was I finally cracked and bought a Peugeut Paris set  in stainless steel.
Bloody brilliant. No wonder they have been making essentially the same mechanism for over a 100 years.
(https://uk.peugeot-saveurs.com/media/cache/catalog/product//imp/ort/700x700/32470_8.png)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 04 August, 2021, 02:37:31 pm
They've been making mills longer than they've been making cars.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 04 August, 2021, 05:07:36 pm
Doesn't matter how good the mill is, sooner or later someone will set it down on a wet surface, usually just before a meal.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 04 August, 2021, 05:39:47 pm
The correct method is to drop it in your meal.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 August, 2021, 05:44:00 pm
I'd have to nominate the digital cooking thermometer.

Until I owned one, I didn't realise how fantastic they are.

Cooking something from frozen in oven and need to know if it has heated through? Probe with thermometer.

Is that source heated up? Thermometer.

It is great.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 04 August, 2021, 05:50:53 pm
Doesn't matter how good the mill is, sooner or later someone will set it down on a wet surface, usually just before a meal.
I confess to being unsure of what the consequences of such an action might be.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 August, 2021, 06:31:25 pm
I'd have to nominate the digital cooking thermometer.

Until I owned one, I didn't realise how fantastic they are.

Cooking something from frozen in oven and need to know if it has heated through? Probe with thermometer.

Is that source heated up? Thermometer.

It is great.

I've got one with a high and low alarm too so for things like cinnamon buns where I need to heat milk and then cool it down to a certain temp I can set it to shout at me when it needs my attention at the hot and the cool end.
Title: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 04 August, 2021, 08:14:17 pm
I mentioned my Thermapen at the top of the thread. It’s pretty basic - no alarms or anything fancy like that. Still an excellent bit of kit though.

What model is yours, Mrs P? Might be tempted to upgrade…
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Post by: Gattopardo on 04 August, 2021, 08:31:25 pm
You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant.

We used to have a pair, but if they got water or oil on them they got very slippery. Then they cracked. Finding out was very unpleasant. Nowadays we use tea-towels, but I've just been looking at a pair of professional baker's padded leather gloves (https://www.finarome.com/gants-et-maniques/8523-paire-de-gants-de-boulanger-en-cuir-rembourre-matfer-3334497730124.html) that go right to the elbow.  I might spring for those.

Welding gauntlets.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 August, 2021, 09:08:07 pm
I mentioned my Thermapen at the top of the thread. It’s pretty basic - no alarms or anything fancy like that. Still an excellent bit of kit though.

What model is yours, Mrs P? Might be tempted to upgrade…
https://www.thermoworks.com/ChefAlarm
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 04 August, 2021, 09:40:58 pm
Welding gauntlets.

I'd file these alongside those grippy builder's gloves as the sort of thing every home should have, even if they're never used for their intended purpose.

I was first introduced to welding gloves as a child for brushing[1] Dylan the cat[2], who <proud cat owner voice> was a right bastard and would have your arm off </>, and finally got round to buying some a year or so ago for general fettling of hot/sharp things, but not actual welding.  I suspect the problem with using them as oven mitts is that they'd keep going walkies...


[1] With the wire brush from the welding kit.  He loved it.
[2] A semi-feral ginger tom who sneaked in to my uncle's garage one day while he was fettling Stuff That Goes Vroom, and made himself at home amongst the tyres.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 05 August, 2021, 10:50:52 am
I've also acquired some stout gauntlets, hot Dutch Ovens, for the handling of.

Regular oven gloves were not equal to this task!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 05 August, 2021, 12:47:15 pm
Doesn't matter how good the mill is, sooner or later someone will set it down on a wet surface, usually just before a meal.
I confess to being unsure of what the consequences of such an action might be.

It clogs. Salt mills, anyway.

A propos of salt, when we lived in Stuttgart I noticed that not only did restaurants mix a little rice through it to absorb moisture, but they put it in pepper-casters with holes too small for the salt to come out of.  Stuttgarters are thrifty.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 05 August, 2021, 12:57:43 pm
You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant.

We used to have a pair, but if they got water or oil on them they got very slippery. Then they cracked. Finding out was very unpleasant. Nowadays we use tea-towels, but I've just been looking at a pair of professional baker's padded leather gloves (https://www.finarome.com/gants-et-maniques/8523-paire-de-gants-de-boulanger-en-cuir-rembourre-matfer-3334497730124.html) that go right to the elbow.  I might spring for those.

Welding gauntlets.

Good idea. Cheaper than them bijou bakers' things too.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 05 August, 2021, 12:58:27 pm
I do the rice in the salt shaker thing.  I'm not sure the rice absorbs moisture any more than the salt, but it stops it from forming such a solid clump, so you can usually loosen it off by thumping the shaker against the table.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 05 August, 2021, 02:34:44 pm
I mentioned my Thermapen at the top of the thread. It’s pretty basic - no alarms or anything fancy like that. Still an excellent bit of kit though.

What model is yours, Mrs P? Might be tempted to upgrade…
https://www.thermoworks.com/ChefAlarm

That looks boss. Mine doesn't even have any buttons - you fold out the probe to switch it on, then close it to turn it off.

My wife asked me the other day if the temperature on it can be set to Fahrenheit. I gave her a withering look by way of response. (The long answer is that you can, but it involves opening up the case - which requires screwdrivers - and adjusting internal components. Then you have to re-open the case when you want to change it back to using sensible units.)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 05 August, 2021, 02:57:51 pm
I'd have to nominate the digital cooking thermometer.

Until I owned one, I didn't realise how fantastic they are.

The ones that have long leads to a display that's magnetic are even better.
Stick the probe in you joint or turkey or whatever and just cook until the thermometer reaches the required temperature. No more guessing.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: L CC on 05 August, 2021, 04:46:31 pm
Am I the only person who uses the thermometer for sugar, chocolate and swiss meringue syrups?
I've never used it for meat.

As you were.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 05 August, 2021, 05:06:15 pm
I use it for all of these things plus yoghurt making.

Sam
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 05 August, 2021, 05:13:49 pm
Thermometers? I like to live on the sharp edge of risk. Plus I don't do any fancy baking nonsense (as I don't eat cake).

I once went to a chicken sushi restaurant (in Berkeley, so that's not even a surprise). I don't like any kind of sushi, to be honest.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 05 August, 2021, 05:20:08 pm
Talking about welding gloves, we had a proper pair of welders mitts at home when I were lad. They were white in colour - I have always though they might have had asbestos in the mix.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: geraldc on 05 August, 2021, 05:32:36 pm
Electric deep fat fryer. I've see to many public information videos about chip pan fires, so am scared sh!tless of deep frying over a flame.  However give me an electric deep fat fryer, and my trust in its thermostat and safety shut off knows no bounds.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 05 August, 2021, 07:49:41 pm
Am I the only person who uses the thermometer for sugar, chocolate and swiss meringue syrups?
I've never used it for meat.

As you were.

I use mine for all those things. And meat. And brewing. And baking. And jam-making. Anything that requires a temperature to be taken.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 05 August, 2021, 07:51:40 pm
Talking about welding gloves, we had a proper pair of welders mitts at home when I were lad. They were white in colour - I have always though they might have had asbestos in the mix.

No asbestos, chrome leather.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 August, 2021, 08:37:43 pm
You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant. Might not be suitable for barakta's needs though, I guess, otherwise I assume you'd have already thought of that.

Yep, we've got some of those.  They're her weapon of choice for oven trays (which tend to be less heavy).  I may have added googly eyes.

I am a big fan of welding gauntlets instead of oven gloves. They provide far far far far better insulation than anything else I've found.

When it comes to doing a BBQ, they also allow you to literally pick up bits of fire and move them to where you need them.

Highly recommend.

J
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 05 August, 2021, 09:27:10 pm
I've also acquired some stout gauntlets, hot Dutch Ovens, for the handling of.

Regular oven gloves were not equal to this task!

I don't cook much now but bought some gauntlet length oven gloves from Lakeland a while back.

Not used them thobut. Stout things they are.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 05 August, 2021, 09:56:33 pm
So you're telling me I should hang onto the massive gauntlets that came with our wood burning stove for kitchen porpoises, and not leave them with the stove?  :demon:

(No, I'm not really going to be that person)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 August, 2021, 10:11:56 pm
So you're telling me I should hang onto the massive gauntlets that came with our wood burning stove for kitchen porpoises, and not leave them with the stove?  :demon:

(No, I'm not really going to be that person)

No, you should buy more of them, so you can leave some in the Kitchen, and some next to the wood burner...

J
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 12:05:07 am
 :-X
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Gattopardo on 06 August, 2021, 02:31:08 am
You can get genuine silicone oven mitts, which are brilliant. Might not be suitable for barakta's needs though, I guess, otherwise I assume you'd have already thought of that.

Yep, we've got some of those.  They're her weapon of choice for oven trays (which tend to be less heavy).  I may have added googly eyes.

I am a big fan of welding gauntlets instead of oven gloves. They provide far far far far better insulation than anything else I've found.

When it comes to doing a BBQ, they also allow you to literally pick up bits of fire and move them to where you need them.

Highly recommend.

J

Note for others, there are different types (material) gloves for tig, mig and gas welding.

Thick welding gloves are also great for gardening too.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 06 August, 2021, 09:13:16 am
I think my favourite kitchen thing is a small, red, serrated knife that has its own sheath. I asked my son what one item he would rescue from the kitchen if the house were on fire, expecting him to say the pizza slicer, but he said the microwave. The pizza slicer would be easier to run with.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 06 August, 2021, 10:16:04 am
I just use a tea towel for hut stuff. It's a bit late for me to worry about more scars (got a nice one on the back of hand from catching the shelf above as I removed a pizza). I do have a pair of gloves but it's palaver to put them on owing to my last-minute-it's-burning cooking style.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 10:59:39 am
I mentioned my Thermapen at the top of the thread. It’s pretty basic - no alarms or anything fancy like that. Still an excellent bit of kit though.

What model is yours, Mrs P? Might be tempted to upgrade…
https://www.thermoworks.com/ChefAlarm

That looks boss. Mine doesn't even have any buttons - you fold out the probe to switch it on, then close it to turn it off.

My wife asked me the other day if the temperature on it can be set to Fahrenheit. I gave her a withering look by way of response. (The long answer is that you can, but it involves opening up the case - which requires screwdrivers - and adjusting internal components. Then you have to re-open the case when you want to change it back to using sensible units.)

Here's mine in action right now doing the cinnamon bun prep.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51360745053_3e130bec98.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mfzf88)2021-08-06_10-54-27 (https://flic.kr/p/2mfzf88) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 August, 2021, 11:10:19 am
very useful for things like italian meringue
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 11:22:10 am
Also for checking the temp of unfamiliar ovens.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 06 August, 2021, 12:04:28 pm
We bought a new  fairly expensive Neff oven for our last house and nothing cooked as expected so I checked the temperature.  It was at least 10 degrees lower than stated on the dial.  The engineer who came (in warranty) explained that +/- 10degC was entirely within range of even an expensive Neff.  We learnt to adjust but I remain miffed.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nuttycyclist on 06 August, 2021, 12:24:25 pm
I took a sharpie to our old NEFF oven to rebrand it NAFF.

So glad I moved and left it behind.   A house move was stupidly expensive, but I'm so glad I no longer have a NAFF.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 06 August, 2021, 12:33:02 pm
That is useful to know. I have wondered about our Neff oven not meeting desired temps. Also upper tray chrome grill rusted within 3 years with replacements at mid £30 each. Overpriced Bosch brand.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 01:07:01 pm
I like my Bosch oven and will be sad to leave it (and the rest of my dream kitchen).
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 06 August, 2021, 01:24:11 pm
Out of curiosity, how do you go about using such a thing to check an unknown oven?

Is it a single-point-in-time calibration measurement, rather than a continuous measurement whist baking something?

Do you just wait till its up to some nominal temperature, then stick the probe in, with the wire coming out the door seal, and leave the reading to stabilise for 5 mins or so?  Are we measuring the air-temperature somewhere in the middle of an empty oven?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: TimC on 06 August, 2021, 01:25:06 pm
That is useful to know. I have wondered about our Neff oven not meeting desired temps. Also upper tray chrome grill rusted within 3 years with replacements at mid £30 each. Overpriced Bosch brand.

I have a fairly uprange Neff double cooker which is also no better than approximate on temperature. I've learned its foibles now, and it does give good results, but it's annoying that the temperature settings are so vague. I have a cheap-ish Beko combination microwave/conventional oven which is far more accurate.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 01:37:23 pm
Out of curiosity, how do you go about using such a thing to check an unknown oven?

Is it a single-point-in-time calibration measurement, rather than a continuous measurement whist baking something?

Do you just wait till its up to some nominal temperature, then stick the probe in, with the wire coming out the door seal, and leave the reading to stabilise for 5 mins or so?  Are we measuring the air-temperature somewhere in the middle of an empty oven?


Whatever you like really. I've put my probe in with the wire coming out of the door while the oven is heating up and then just left it there in an empty oven, hanging off a wire shelf, if you were to reset the unit once the oven got to temp the Chef Alarm would show the variation in temperature between heating cycles in the high and low section at the top of the screen. I don't think I've ever bothered measuring it while it's been baking something but there nothing to stop you.
Handily our fridge freezer is next to the oven so the readout hangs on the fridge door.

I also have one of those infrared gun things which I've used to check the temperature of my pizza steel in the past. That appeared to work through the glass door as far as I can remember.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 06 August, 2021, 01:40:54 pm
I like my Bosch oven and will be sad to leave it (and the rest of my dream kitchen).

Rip it out and take it with you.

My oven has two temperatures, really hot (for pizza) and not so really hot (for everything else). I am not a creature of sophistication.

As a plus, I did get the fan heating element replaced, so I have a fan oven again.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 06 August, 2021, 02:39:17 pm
LOL, it's in the contract!
I shall be taking a note of the model number and features to attempt to get the closest oven again though...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 06 August, 2021, 02:53:48 pm
In our last move we sold the appliances with the house and then on the eve of completion we got a call saying they didn't want them and could we take them with us? No.

That was a tad annoying as they were plumbed and wired in, but in the end they ended up paying for them (as yes, it was in the contract), and we got our handyman to uninstall them and sold them to someone else (his daughter, admittedly at a bargain-basement price). Wish we'd kept the dishwasher tbh, it was a nice Siemens model.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: HectoJ on 09 September, 2021, 06:10:20 pm
I recently have purchased and fallen in love with one of these:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0287/6493/0180/products/p215052z_68e3fc69-94fd-4d72-938b-d17abf9f6b04_800x.jpg?v=1622583929)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Legs on 12 October, 2021, 12:43:39 pm
We liberated my inlaws of their bread maker when we went up to visit/clean 10 days ago.  Have made a few very delicious loaves since  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 13 October, 2021, 10:57:46 am
I recently have purchased and fallen in love with one of these:

Our pressure cooker is the same make. We've had it years. It's been great.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Tim Hall on 04 November, 2021, 11:36:16 am
I have a New! Shiny! favourite thing in my kitchen.  An Opinel "N°118 Chief Multi-purpose Parallèle" knife. Shiny! Sharp! Lovely beech wood handle.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 14 November, 2021, 01:26:27 am
A 24cm Le Creuset iron pot, from their outlet shop in York. I've had a few more big iron pans from there - a flatter, wider one, and a slightly bigger oval one - and they are largely ignored, but this is spectacular. I know folk who've had bad ones, and folks who really don't rate them, but this would be my rescue-from-a-burning-building item. Well, were it not flameproof and thus retrievable from the smouldering ruins...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: quixoticgeek on 14 November, 2021, 10:37:00 am
A 24cm Le Creuset iron pot, from their outlet shop in York. I've had a few more big iron pans from there - a flatter, wider one, and a slightly bigger oval one - and they are largely ignored, but this is spectacular. I know folk who've had bad ones, and folks who really don't rate them, but this would be my rescue-from-a-burning-building item. Well, were it not flameproof and thus retrievable from the smouldering ruins...

Except if it's got hot and the water fairies spray it with water, then it will crack...

J
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 14 November, 2021, 11:46:44 am

Except if it's got hot and the water fairies spray it with water, then it will crack...

J

It did once survive an unattended grape jelly making attempt, resulting in its base becoming melded with something resembling a charred leather frisbee, then plunging into water to arrest any further nastiness. But...yeah...OK, you're probably right. I'll rescue it.

Wait...maybe I could just not set fire to the house? Would that work?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 15 November, 2021, 09:13:33 am
A 24cm Le Creuset iron pot, from their outlet shop in York. I've had a few more big iron pans from there - a flatter, wider one, and a slightly bigger oval one - and they are largely ignored, but this is spectacular. I know folk who've had bad ones, and folks who really don't rate them, but this would be my rescue-from-a-burning-building item. Well, were it not flameproof and thus retrievable from the smouldering ruins...

Except if it's got hot and the water fairies spray it with water, then it will crack...

J

We regularly take our cast-iron frying pans off the stove and put them under the hot water tap.  They've lasted ~40 years so far.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: quixoticgeek on 15 November, 2021, 12:12:23 pm
We regularly take our cast-iron frying pans off the stove and put them under the hot water tap.  They've lasted ~40 years so far.

Fantastic, now put one on the BBQ, get it really hot, almost colour changingly hot.

Then drop it into cold water. Not hot.

J
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nicknack on 15 November, 2021, 02:44:38 pm
When I had a real job (>30 years ago) I worked in a lab where they tested cookware, which occasionally involved doing just that. The results were spectacular.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Hot Flatus on 15 November, 2021, 02:59:49 pm
Anyone in the Thermomix cult yet?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 November, 2021, 03:40:19 pm
When I had a real job (>30 years ago) I worked in a lab where they tested cookware, which occasionally involved doing just that. The results were spectacular.

When I've cooked something and the pan has some burnt on bits, I put water in the pan to soak it off.

MrsC always grumbles at me if I do this before the pan has cooled, saying it will warp the pan.

Can't see the difference between adding a few mm of water to the empty pan and pouring in a load of wine halfway through cooking.

Did your testing show that adding water to hot pans warped them?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nicknack on 15 November, 2021, 03:58:21 pm
Did your testing show that adding water to hot pans warped them?
It wasn't so much adding a bit of water to the pan, more dunking a red hot pan in iced water. I can't honestly remember what the metal pans did but I do remember what the glass (oven-proof and for hob use) ones did (always broke, occasionally exploded). I've often added cold water to hot metal pans and never had any problems.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 16 November, 2021, 10:34:21 am
Can't see the difference between adding a few mm of water to the empty pan and pouring in a load of wine halfway through cooking.

Different degree of thermal shock presumably. The same reason for milk first then tea when making a cuppa. The milk cushions the thermal shock of the hot tea allowing the cup/mug to warm up relatively gradually. That comes from the days when the ceramics used by the working class were a bit crap.
Same with the pan if you add cold wine to something hot your cooking it drops the temperature of what your cooking a bit it doesn't instantly hit the pan with something cold like cold water into an empty hot pan.

We have a glass topped induction hob so I hate warped pan bases as since the glass is perfectly flat they spin round at the slightest touch and are generally wobbly. On gas hobs its not such a big issue.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rafletcher on 06 January, 2022, 05:45:41 pm
Finally remembered to get a photo of this..

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51803861343_d7f0c5aa44_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mVJkaa)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2mVJkaa) by Richard Fletcher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156993878@N08/), on Flickr

And orange squeezer the we, ahem, “liberated” from a holiday let on Crete about 10 years ago. It obviously wasn’t seeing much use (the target audience for the company was retired academics it seemed) so we decided to re home it.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 13 February, 2022, 02:15:11 pm
Recently treated ourselves to a new mixer. The (very) old Kenwood Major is starting to need more and more TLC, and I've already rebuilt its gearbox and replaced a burnt out capacitor or two. I need to recalibrate the speed control board and (re)diagnose an intermittent total failure to switch on, so we decided to splash out on a modern version. The Titanium Chef XL Patissier. Holy chuff.

Built in digital scales, touch-screen control, in-bowl illumination, and warming function! The damn thing will work as a dough-proving cupboard! Fair enough, the old one would warm a dough to an extent, but more as a side effect of the excessive motor heat being transmitted through the gearbox into the dough hook if it was tasked with a whole bag of flour...

'tis a wondrous thing.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 February, 2022, 02:38:27 pm
I should hope so for that price!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 13 February, 2022, 02:51:51 pm
I should hope so for that price!

Fair point! As our old Major pre-dates its namesake's stint at No. 10 (or No. 11 for that matter) we decided it owed us nothing and would replace it. And as the lady of the house done got promoted - and as we use the mixer all the damn time - we thought it was a reasonable bit of expenditure to go for a dead spangly one.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 13 February, 2022, 10:04:51 pm
Recently treated ourselves to a new mixer. The (very) old Kenwood Major is starting to need more and more TLC, and I've already rebuilt its gearbox and replaced a burnt out capacitor or two. I need to recalibrate the speed control board and (re)diagnose an intermittent total failure to switch on, so we decided to splash out on a modern version. The Titanium Chef XL Patissier. Holy chuff.

Built in digital scales, touch-screen control, in-bowl illumination, and warming function! The damn thing will work as a dough-proving cupboard! Fair enough, the old one would warm a dough to an extent, but more as a side effect of the excessive motor heat being transmitted through the gearbox into the dough hook if it was tasked with a whole bag of flour...

'tis a wondrous thing.

You are almost set up for domestic Chorleywood Bread Process bread  ;)
 
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 13 February, 2022, 10:32:55 pm

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You are almost set up for domestic Chorleywood Bread Process bread  ;)

Shudder.

I mean, yes, probably could sort of do that, but no, thanks all the same...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 14 February, 2022, 07:38:39 am
Recently treated ourselves to a new mixer. The (very) old Kenwood Major is starting to need more and more TLC, and I've already rebuilt its gearbox and replaced a burnt out capacitor or two. I need to recalibrate the speed control board and (re)diagnose an intermittent total failure to switch on, so we decided to splash out on a modern version. The Titanium Chef XL Patissier. Holy chuff.

Built in digital scales, touch-screen control, in-bowl illumination, and warming function! The damn thing will work as a dough-proving cupboard! Fair enough, the old one would warm a dough to an extent, but more as a side effect of the excessive motor heat being transmitted through the gearbox into the dough hook if it was tasked with a whole bag of flour...

'tis a wondrous thing.

Shiny! You will of course already have an anti-walking mat.  A few years back our brand-new Major Titanium walked sideways off the counter when we left it unattended for a couple of minutes as it was kneading dough.  The repair was not cheap.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 14 February, 2022, 08:55:44 am
Right now this is my favourite bit of shiny.

(https://pbase.com/image/172348424.jpg)

Been looking for a smallish round-bottomed wok for ages.  I already have a couple of flat-bottomed woks but they need a hell of a lot of oil to cover the flat bit and the sides are too steep for the food to stick once it's cooked.  This one took a month to get here but it was worth the wait.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 19 February, 2022, 12:03:20 am
You will of course already have an anti-walking mat.

For which read "old tea towel".

Aye, got one o' them.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 19 February, 2022, 12:05:26 am
Right now this is my favourite bit of shiny.

(https://pbase.com/image/172348424.jpg)



Can't get on with two-handle woks. My folks used to have one, but I need to be able to chuck it around.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 19 February, 2022, 10:06:24 am
Yeah, chucking with a 2-handle is awkward.  Don't need to with a stir-fry, though.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 19 February, 2022, 10:43:57 am
I've had a Ninja Foodi multicooker for a few months now and it's great. I've only used the oven once since.

The air fryer function has been full of win for cooking small and fast, and sauté -> pressure/slow cook workflows have resulted in some cracking sauces, stews and chilli things in bulk. Crisped kale is no longer the risky undertaking it once was, and tofu has levelled up a lot.

I've yet to nail baking cornbread in it. I suspect the solution there might be to go muffin cases or similar to compensate for heat flows.

A bonus with the shift in cooking habits has been a renewed appreciation for my stainless steel citrus juicer - that's getting a load more use nowadays.

I may have to invest in some TIG welding gloves though - have picked up a few burns extracting things from the upright chamber.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 22 February, 2022, 03:49:34 pm
That's nice to know. I've been impressed by the Foodi videos on YT, but MrsT has been all "jack of all trades and master of none" about it.

How easy is it to keep clean?

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 22 February, 2022, 10:22:48 pm
but MrsT has been all "jack of all trades and master of none" about it.

I think it's pretty much a direct substitute for a slow cooker and a pressure cooker.

The sauté function is okay, but there's not much fine control with the heat - I'm noticing that because I'm only cooking for one, larger portions might lessen that effect.

Baking... Baking cakes I think requires some adjustment to facilitate heat transfer to the inner part of the batter - either go muffin size, or bundt, or metal spike in the middle or pressure cook. I've done that viral feta cheese and cherry tomato bake thing a few times and that's a winner.

Air frying doesn't give you the greasy fried goodness of actual frying, but if you approach it as a compact, efficient convection oven, it's pretty darn cool hot. Aubergines with a fraction of the oil is amazing. Part of a par-baked garlic baguette without feeling the need to cook - and then eat - a whole one is great. I'm batch preparing things like falafel, veggie burgers and samosa and then air frying what I need when I need it. I'm minimising my supermarket trips because pandemic, and air frying frozen broccolli is the only way I've found so far of it not being a horrible mushy consistency. I don't eat much meat, but it's produced some perfectly adequate sausages and a couple of burgers. Quesadilla I'm having to ration myself on and it's best if I try and forget about how easy it was to use some of that pastry-in-a-tube stuff to make pain au chocolat. Pizza is nicely revived the next day. Air fried crumbled tofu as a mince substitute is a game changer!

Steaming. Only tried this once or twice. Haven't got much to compare it to. Broccoli and cauliflower gets air fried now.

Grill. I've tried this once for toast, but have mostly reverted to the air fryer mode as I tend to go more for pitta or corn tortilla. If I'm doing bready bread then it's gluten free and a bit of a weird one anyway, but the time I tried it it came out more dried and crouton-like than Maillard goodness. I've tried provisionally retiring the toaster anyway, and haven't really missed it over the last couple of weeks.

I've yet to yoghurt or dehydrate.


If I moved into an unfurnished flat, I wouldn't be in any rush to buy an oven - the Foodi, my rice cooker and a frying pan set-up would be fine, I think.


How easy is it to keep clean?

I don't have any concerns about the inner pot: that takes very little effort to clean, just the measuring scale on the side is etched quite deep and needs a bit of attention to make sure there's nothing stuck in that after a pressure cook.

The air frying basket thing is still non-sticking, occasionally showing signs of oil depositing on the sides and starting to brown. That needs a bit more elbow grease and the stand thing that snaps on the underside is easy enough to remove - it's kind of annoying having the two parts in the washing up bowl at the same time though! Just weird shapes!

The pressure lid has never needed much more than a swill and a quick wipe so far. You can just dunk that and pull out the the seal from time to time for a proper wash. I'm not doing huge portions, so it's rare for any food to splash up on the lid.

The thing I'm cautiously keeping an eye on is the crisping lid. When the time comes to clean that it's either going to need a pokey thing to get past the safety grill and the heating element, or a security hex key to remove the grill and get decent access.


I'm seriously not missing the clean-up of roasting trays covered in oil, though.


Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 23 February, 2022, 11:14:42 am
MrsT has been all "jack of all trades and master of none" about it.

That's my instinctive feeling, but my wife got hold of one that a friend was getting rid of and has successfully been using it to make yoghurt.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 23 February, 2022, 03:30:22 pm
Thanks for the detailed reply, Nikki.  We have had a pressure cooker and a slow cooker and given both away. The pressure cooker hadn't been used for >20 years. The slow cooker we bought last year but I found that everything we cooked in it tasted as if it came out of a tin so we gave it to my daughter.  We have an air fryer I'm very happy with but I can't get a whole duck into it so I'd like a bigger one.  The Ninja is about the same price as the Philips XXL, so that's what got me asking.

Air frying doesn't give you the greasy fried goodness of actual frying, but if you approach it as a compact, efficient convection oven, it's pretty darn cool hot. Aubergines with a fraction of the oil is amazing. Part of a par-baked garlic baguette without feeling the need to cook - and then eat - a whole one is great. I'm batch preparing things like falafel, veggie burgers and samosa and then air frying what I need when I need it. I'm minimising my supermarket trips because pandemic, and air frying frozen broccolli is the only way I've found so far of it not being a horrible mushy consistency. I don't eat much meat, but it's produced some perfectly adequate sausages and a couple of burgers. Quesadilla I'm having to ration myself on and it's best if I try and forget about how easy it was to use some of that pastry-in-a-tube stuff to make pain au chocolat. Pizza is nicely revived the next day. Air fried crumbled tofu as a mince substitute is a game changer!

Steaming. Only tried this once or twice. Haven't got much to compare it to. Broccoli and cauliflower gets air fried now.

Grill. I've tried this once for toast, but have mostly reverted to the air fryer mode as I tend to go more for pitta or corn tortilla. If I'm doing bready bread then it's gluten free and a bit of a weird one anyway, but the time I tried it it came out more dried and crouton-like than Maillard goodness. I've tried provisionally retiring the toaster anyway, and haven't really missed it over the last couple of weeks.

I've yet to yoghurt or dehydrate.


If I moved into an unfurnished flat, I wouldn't be in any rush to buy an oven - the Foodi, my rice cooker and a frying pan set-up would be fine, I think.


Some nice ideas there, and caveats.  MrsT would certainly go for the veggie ideas whereas I'm an unrepentant carnivore.  I might have a closer look at the 2-basket model. Though I wouldn't get a duck into that. Rats.


Quote
How easy is it to keep clean?

I don't have any concerns about the inner pot: that takes very little effort to clean, just the measuring scale on the side is etched quite deep and needs a bit of attention to make sure there's nothing stuck in that after a pressure cook.

The air frying basket thing is still non-sticking, occasionally showing signs of oil depositing on the sides and starting to brown. That needs a bit more elbow grease and the stand thing that snaps on the underside is easy enough to remove - it's kind of annoying having the two parts in the washing up bowl at the same time though! Just weird shapes!

The pressure lid has never needed much more than a swill and a quick wipe so far. You can just dunk that and pull out the the seal from time to time for a proper wash. I'm not doing huge portions, so it's rare for any food to splash up on the lid.

The thing I'm cautiously keeping an eye on is the crisping lid. When the time comes to clean that it's either going to need a pokey thing to get past the safety grill and the heating element, or a security hex key to remove the grill and get decent access.


I'm seriously not missing the clean-up of roasting trays covered in oil, though.

Gotcha.  I reckon that if we get one a lot of the bits will go in the dishwasher.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 23 February, 2022, 06:26:13 pm
MrsT has been all "jack of all trades and master of none" about it.

That's my instinctive feeling, but my wife got hold of one that a friend was getting rid of and has successfully been using it to make yoghurt.

That's encouraging. I keep meaning to try making dairy-free yoghurt ...but forgetting to buy some as a starter.


The slow cooker we bought last year but I found that everything we cooked in it tasted as if it came out of a tin

In what way? Tasting metallic?


We have an air fryer I'm very happy with but I can't get a whole duck into it so I'd like a bigger one.  The Ninja is about the same price as the Philips XXL, so that's what got me asking.

I've got the OP350 model, which has a 21cm diameter frying basket IIRC. How big are ducks? Is that big enough for a duck?

I picked up my Ninja in the Black Friday sales, I think with an additional 1-day glitch extra discount on it, so it worked out at £120 or something. Would have been rude not to. Am definitely getting my money's worth from it. Today was air fried gnocchi.


Some nice ideas there, and caveats.  MrsT would certainly go for the veggie ideas whereas I'm an unrepentant carnivore.  I might have a closer look at the 2-basket model. Though I wouldn't get a duck into that.

There's a guy on YouTube who sets very meaty slow cooks going, climbs a Canadian mountain or two and then gets back to his van for a seriously protein-heavy refuel. It does sound like it does a good job of it! Do you think the pressure cook + air fry options would do better/different compared to the air fryer alone?

Again, it's something I'll try at some point...

Rats.

Something to consider, as food prices increase.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 25 February, 2022, 10:31:28 am
The slow cooker we bought last year but I found that everything we cooked in it tasted as if it came out of a tin

In what way? Tasting metallic?

No, nothing like that, just that all the bits in a given dish tasted the same.

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I've got the OP350 model, which has a 21cm diameter frying basket IIRC. How big are ducks? Is that big enough for a duck?

The canette (young female) I roasted earlier this week was 26 cm long.  Dirty lie: MrsT roasted it to my recipe dictated by phone from coffee halt.

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There's a guy on YouTube who sets very meaty slow cooks going, climbs a Canadian mountain or two and then gets back to his van for a seriously protein-heavy refuel. It does sound like it does a good job of it!

It does.  Maybe worth another look if we do get a Foodi.

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Do you think the pressure cook + air fry options would do better/different compared to the air fryer alone?

Could be.  TBH I've never used a pressure-cooker, but from what I've seen it could be useful to get things under way quickly.

Going to let that all sink in now, maybe come back to it in a week or two and see if I'm still interested.

Cheers.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 25 February, 2022, 05:17:55 pm
Well, I decided to give yoghurting a try (coconut milk with a dairy yoghurt starter).

citoyen, how long do you let yours ferment for?

I pulled mine after 18 hours - mostly because I wanted to use the Foodi to cook other stuff for a meal!

Now waiting to see how it firms up after some time in the fridge...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: slope on 25 February, 2022, 06:44:17 pm
These Ninja Foodi posts are rather timely :thumbsup:

I purchased an AG301 Grill and Air Fryer in September 2020. On a mad whim and discount code. And was thinking of getting rid due to lack of use.

Initially I was hoping to grill and brown meats etc, without having to put up with the oil splatter on the hob and surrounding areas (even when using a splatter guard when possible). It does this well, but the spiral shaped grill plate ridges really pissed me off! (Perhaps this should be in First World Problems?).

Any road up I was going off meat and it's quite a large and heavy thing to lump about, so it only got used maybe 5 times and then parked up.

The other day I fancied some chips real bad. There aren't ANY chippies near me who produce anything other than flaccid disappointments and let's face it, polystyrene trays suck the soul out of anything.

Years and decades ago we had an aluminium chip pan with solid lard in it. We cooked chips with skins on and they were everything that is perfect in humanity. Then when I was in Paris working for Charles Aznavour and Johnny Hallyday, the chip pan caught fire. My wife or my stepson, left it unattended for a few seconds! Cooker and kitchen were under a thatched roof with just a 12mm fibreboard ceiling, which wasn't much good at preventing fire spread. Nick (stepson) was despatched up to our nearest neighbour, the amazing, settled ex Traveller, the fearless Dickie Black. Whilst my wife, having covered the chip pan and thrown it still aflame out of the back door, began to pull clumps of burning thatch down! Heroic fearless Dickie ran the  200 yards of dark lane and with his bare hands pulled the remaining burning thatch above the cooker until there were flames no more. Both he and my wife had burnt arms, and the 16thC. cottage was saved - hurrah! But we never had chips again.

Fast forward at least 40 years and I was desperate for chips - with golden crispy outerness and soft pillowy innards. The last time I recall such lovelies was in Whitby two decades ago. Then last week Felicity Cloake writing in the Guardian mentioned Ninja Foodi and air-frying. So I watched a linked brief Instagram video and dusted off the sad ignored Grill. Bought some unidentified potatoes, cut them on the large side, boiled them on the hob until feared they looked overdone, then after draining mixed with a couple of tablespoons of EVOO (extra virgin olive oil - not through choice, just only oil available) and bunged 'em in the Foodi bowl at @200ºC. Every 5 minutes giving them a turn about, until roughly 20 minutes. I found a long lost desire for life again - nirvana objectified in a potato.

So, having read Nikki's posts, I'm up and keen running to persevere with the Ninja Foodi Grill and see what else is possible. I've got Tempeh and Halloumi and frozen broccoli in the fridge!

By the way TF2 - the non stick removable pan in the AG301 measures 21x21cm square-ish and 9.5cm deep - duck size?

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 26 February, 2022, 11:10:39 am
Yikes! That sounds like a close call! Hope the burns healed up okay.


I made the mistake of watching that linked Instagram video, and now I'm a) curious about air frying in the main pot without the basket - would make cleaning up easier b) really craving chips. They looked amazing! I want to try those with a twice fried approach too.

I've only got a single sweet potato to hand though, so I think it will be sweet potato and polenta fries (https://www.waitrose.com/home/recipes/recipe_directory/c/crispy-sweet-potatofries0.html) for now and then stocking up on spuds next shopping trip.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 26 February, 2022, 11:37:19 am
By the way T42 - the non stick removable pan in the AG301 measures 21x21cm square-ish and 9.5cm deep - duck size?

A small duck sorely mishandled, perhaps.  Ta.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 27 February, 2022, 08:30:22 am
In the end, decided against the Ninja, mainly because I eat meat & MrsT doesn't so who got to use the beast would always be a conundrum.  Might change our minds at some point, but not yet.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 01 March, 2022, 01:26:43 am
We have replaced our defunct dishwasher with a simple cabinet.
D has just installed a bin in this cabinet.
One of these https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L (https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L)
I'm in love with a bin!
The bearings are SMOOTH!
It oozes quality!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 01 March, 2022, 01:51:37 am
The bearings are SMOOTH!
It oozes quality!

I know what you mean. There's a certain quality to what oozes from my bin too.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 01 March, 2022, 08:30:44 am
One of these https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L (https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L)

What I like about this kind of system is that when you're wiping crumbs off the surface you can sweep all the debris over the edge and into the bin.

We've had a similar effort, but in plastic, for the last ~20 years and it's getting a bit ratty, particularly because the slides are at the top and get gunged up if anything goes over the back.  I want another 30L but most of the bins on offer now are 2x15L or similar, which is next to useless.  We fill the 30L about twice a week and have a separate cupboard for recyclables.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Ham on 01 March, 2022, 09:29:42 am
We have a Halo  (https://www.hailo.de/en/shop/p/big-box-swing-xl-0860-211)in a slide out cupboard, originally with normal drawer runners which I changed to the heavy duty drawer sliders a few years back.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Basil on 01 March, 2022, 09:36:20 am
We have a dog.  Sweep all crumbs straight onto the floor. Gone in seconds.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: cycleman on 01 March, 2022, 12:24:48 pm
With 4 cats we don't even have to sweep things onto the floor  ::-)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 01 March, 2022, 02:30:04 pm
One of these https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L (https://www.lakeland.co.uk/25823/simplehuman-Under-Counter-Pull-Out-Waste-Bin-30L)
What I like about this kind of system is that when you're wiping crumbs off the surface you can sweep all the debris over the edge and into the bin.

This bin has its top about 20cm below the counter.
It's not on the side of the kitchen where there's much food prep.
It is near my seat and the sink though.

I think I'll get a similar 'recycling' jobbie, which should fit alongside in the cabinet.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 01 March, 2022, 02:35:20 pm
Well, I decided to give yoghurting a try (coconut milk with a dairy yoghurt starter).

citoyen, how long do you let yours ferment for?

I pulled mine after 18 hours - mostly because I wanted to use the Foodi to cook other stuff for a meal!

Now waiting to see how it firms up after some time in the fridge...

Sorry, only just seen this... I'll have to ask my wife, she's the yoghurt maker. I don't think it's very long though - probably not a lot more than 18 hours.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 01 March, 2022, 09:55:19 pm
I am getting intrigued with this Ninja thing – our slow cooker is getting old and I think we're eating the remaining teflon (which will turn me into a girl which, of course, will make me horrid) and I could go fancy style with new gadgetry. That said, reading the review, it's sort of kitchen rocket science. There are space vehicles with fewer buttons. I see the benefits of occasional pressure cooking for beans and pulses and air frying – what the fuck is that – sounds cool (or rather hot). As we're only two, cranking up the oven all the time seems a bit wasteful. That said, it has the potential to become just another gadget in the endless battle for counter real estate (I know, just move house). I have no idea how two people accumulate so much kitchen crap (only one of whom cooks). Though this post might shed some light on it.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 02 March, 2022, 09:36:06 am
Sorry, only just seen this... I'll have to ask my wife, she's the yoghurt maker. I don't think it's very long though - probably not a lot more than 18 hours.

There are small clumpy bits in mine that sort of suggest perhaps if I'd have left it a bit longer it would have started thickening up a lot more. I'm enjoying it, although it would probably lend itself best to smoothie making!

That said, reading the review, it's sort of kitchen rocket science. There are space vehicles with fewer buttons. I see the benefits of occasional pressure cooking for beans and pulses and air frying – what the fuck is that – sounds cool (or rather hot). As we're only two, cranking up the oven all the time seems a bit wasteful. That said, it has the potential to become just another gadget in the endless battle for counter real estate (I know, just move house). I have no idea how two people accumulate so much kitchen crap (only one of whom cooks). Though this post might shed some light on it.

Seems these multicooker things either work really well for people ...or they don't. There's no doubt mine is indeed a chunky unit. There's the extra lid (although I think some of the more recent/expensive models do a combined lid now) and the grill rack too, which are slightly awkward to store.

As for rocket science though, it's just selecting a mode, setting a temperature and setting a time. The hardest part is remembering to check the vent is open or closed if you're doing slow or pressure cooking type things!

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rafletcher on 02 March, 2022, 10:33:10 am
They strike me as the sort of thing invented by and for people who don't have the luxury of a proper stove in a dedicated room for cooking. You either use them all the time for everything, or they're another gadget that will fall out of use or be used occasionally.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 02 March, 2022, 10:57:42 am
I'm on the fence. I like the idea of chips and stuff, I do a fair amount of small volume roasting (broccoli, that kind of thing) which involves heating the entire oven which seems a bit of a waste for a single tray. I do a fair amount of slow cooking with the existing machine and whereas I'd probably never buy a standalone pressure cooker, who doesn't want a facsimile of a nuclear reactor pressure vessel in their kitchen? Admittedly some of my culinary alchemy does involve a few hours on the hob that could potentially be hastened into a more amenable timescale for the hungry. Keeping stuff warm is an issue too, as I often cook and then learn that my wife is just having a drink somewhere on her travels.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 02 March, 2022, 10:58:39 am
Sorry, only just seen this... I'll have to ask my wife, she's the yoghurt maker. I don't think it's very long though - probably not a lot more than 18 hours.

There are small clumpy bits in mine that sort of suggest perhaps if I'd have left it a bit longer it would have started thickening up a lot more. I'm enjoying it, although it would probably lend itself best to smoothie making!

My wife has put me straight - it's an Instant Pot we have, not the Ninja. But I think they're much the same thing, aren't they?

Anyway, she says she leaves it 24 hours, which is how long it takes for the lactose to fully ferment, but it can be ready to eat in as little as 8 hours.

(ETA: looked it up and it seems the main difference is that the Ninja does air-frying, which the Instant Pot doesn't - or at least the version we have doesn't)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 03 March, 2022, 08:08:30 am
They strike me as the sort of thing invented by and for people who don't have the luxury of a proper stove in a dedicated room for cooking.

Yeah, my purchase was partly spurred on by the prospect of the kitchen being out of use for a week or two when the landlord finally got around to sorting out the damp and replastering etc. Still hasn't happened yet...

I levelled up my pressure cooking skills yesterday to compensate for inadequate getting-things-out-of-the-freezer-the-night-before skills and used it to defrost a brick of frozen chilli. Ready in less time than it took for the rice to cook! Cool beans.

This podcast nicely traces a social history of fast slow cooking and slow fast cooking from the invention of electricity through to the instant pot: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cut/the-crock-pot-from-nice-try-p2l3B9SOWuh/

My wife has put me straight - it's an Instant Pot we have, not the Ninja. But I think they're much the same thing, aren't they?

Anyway, she says she leaves it 24 hours, which is how long it takes for the lactose to fully ferment, but it can be ready to eat in as little as 8 hours.

(ETA: looked it up and it seems the main difference is that the Ninja does air-frying, which the Instant Pot doesn't - or at least the version we have doesn't)

Thanks! I'll have to get organised and try and run it for longer next time.
I don't know much about the Instant Pot (well, I know quite a bit more after listening to the above podcast!), but I gather there's quite a lot of models and quite a lot of overlap. Seems a lot of third party companies now offer air fryer lids for the Instant Pot so you can convert them - some of the brand names are terrifying!

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 03 March, 2022, 09:44:28 am
I'm on the fence. I like the idea of chips and stuff, I do a fair amount of small volume roasting (broccoli, that kind of thing) which involves heating the entire oven which seems a bit of a waste for a single tray.

You could try an air fryer for that - it's really just a small fan oven.

What I found annoying was nothing to do with the gadget but the need to spray stuff with a light film of oil.  The only refillable oil sprayers I've found don't spray, they squirt like a water pistol.  In any YT vids you see of them they use aerosol cans.  :sick:

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 03 March, 2022, 10:27:58 am
What I found annoying was nothing to do with the gadget but the need to spray stuff with a light film of oil.  The only refillable oil sprayers I've found don't spray, they squirt like a water pistol.  In any YT vids you see of them they use aerosol cans.  :sick:

We have a bottle of stuff in the cupboard called Fry Light. It's a blend of rapeseed oil, water, emulsifiers, thickening agents and alcohol - presumably to make it the right consistency for spraying. It's really nasty. It wasn't me who bought it and I won't use it - tried it once, never again.

If I want to coat things in a light film of oil, I'll put them in a bowl with a drizzle of oil and toss well. Does the trick well enough for my needs.

I've never used an air fryer though. Might be worth trying the Instant Pot, though we'd need to get the special lid.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 March, 2022, 10:28:53 am
I do like the idea of being able to do a bit of air frying and slow/pressure cooking in the same device, as it wouldn't challenge the cats' demands for countertop real estate. The little furry fuckers are worse than Putin when it comes to territory.

I could just tidy the kitchen and put the gadgets in the cupboards, but that would involve throwing out all the other crap – I swear we have enough place settings for a banquet of a thousand (the inlaws would keep bringing us stuff – we're pretty unpopular for obvious reasons, I don't think I've ever cooked for more than six people and that's pretty much a hostage situation). I have an entire cupboard of mugs, there must be fifty in there. I have no idea why. And worse, of the two of us, only one drinks hot drinks and I just use the same bloody mug. Even my periodic attempts to smash stuff isn't making many inroads.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 03 March, 2022, 12:09:26 pm

I seem to remember reading something saying you specifically shouldn't use Fry Light in an air fryer. I'll take a punt on it being either something to do with low smoke point and/or affecting the non-stick coating. It being really nasty would be another valid reason!

I'm in a similar situation to T42 in not wanting to use aerosol sprays but finding the hand-pumped things just squirt the oil out. Sometimes this is fine though, and I'll squirt a bit of oil over the food and just leave it to spread out of its own accord. Other times I'll brush oil on with one of those squiggly-ended silicone pastry brush things. Aubergines or wedges might get the bowl treatment. I've started not bothering with oil for the frozen broccoli, and that's working fine for me.


In other news, I maris pipered and tried the instagram air fried chips that Slope mentioned upthread.

In the pot as per the video:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51915675304_d73cbbd3b5_c.jpg)

I don't know about chips, but pretty much ideal as roasties.
The clean-up situation was a definite win too! This was significantly more oil than I've used in the Foodi before, but still less compared to when I do roast potatoes in the oven.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51914385092_e1285c8583_c.jpg)

I tried it again with the air fryer basket and got these:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51915448938_2ae5f9f50b_c.jpg)


Have we reached the point where a separate air fryer / instant pot / multicooker thread is justified?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 March, 2022, 12:11:37 pm
Hungry now!  Want chips!  Bah!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 03 March, 2022, 12:21:32 pm
Sorry! I did nearly put them behind a spoiler!   ;D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: slope on 03 March, 2022, 01:16:09 pm
Just like nikki, I too cooked the par boiled chips in the plain Foodi grill bowl first time and with the addition of the slotted basket the second time, using the same amount of oil - just less than 2tbs. The slotted basket ones came out looking better for some reason. It was no big deal to quickly wash up two baskets.

Tonight will experiment Ninja 'air frying' halloumi chunks/chips coated in ras el hanout spiced flour and polenta.

Made a delicious pan fried 'control' dish last week :thumbsup: But with the faff of oil splash over the hob :(
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 03 March, 2022, 01:20:57 pm
Hungry now!  Want chips!  Bah!
This. They do look really good.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 March, 2022, 01:31:23 pm
You are selling this machine to me. I can't decide which model though, do I need 15-in-1, I get confused by numbers higher than 3. Probably not. I like my greek chips, which are just potato wedges cooked with oregano, rosemary and coriander. Go well with halloumi in a flatbread. The oven never makes them quite crispy enough for my liking.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 03 March, 2022, 03:29:10 pm
I must not buy another kitchen gadget.

Those chips do look frikkin amazing though.

I'd be interested to know what the energy use is of doing those roasties/chips in the gadget vs a fsn oven...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 March, 2022, 04:13:43 pm
I'm still not sure about a 15-in-1 smart-lid. That sounds smarter than me. How big is a 2kg chicken? I don't know. Is it really a ninja?

Those people on the web page look really happy.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 03 March, 2022, 04:36:29 pm
How big is a 2kg chicken?

Big enough to feed a family of six, I'd say.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 03 March, 2022, 04:51:46 pm
 ;D Crispy potatoes as the easy gateway drug  8)

What none of you yet appreciates is that the real reason you want $NewKitchenGadget is air fried mochi snacks. Crispy rice sesame goodness. Unless you're Kim. Sorry Kim, you'll never know how good these are.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51898872200_0bb31b5583_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51898506284_74ef36fd67_c.jpg)


The upcoming halloumi experiments do sound good too though.

I'd be interested to know what the energy use is of doing those roasties/chips in the gadget vs a fsn oven...

Me too!
The tech specs for my Ninja give a wattage of 1460W. (Assuming that's electricity in rather than heat out.)
Maybe 20 minutes cooking time for the chips (not including all the boiling stuff beforehand). I've no sense of how output might vary between modes or within a cooking cycle though.

I'm still not sure about a 15-in-1 smart-lid. That sounds smarter than me.

You're entitled to one function per 3 mugs donated to charity, Ian...

I've no idea about this combi steam stuff on the newer and fancier models.

The smart lid looks like a bit of a 'mare to clean to me. If I were buying again I think I'd still go for the separate lids.
If you're going to be using the pressure and slow cook functions I reckon you'll end up with stuff splatted behind the heating element and the guard soon enough. With the separate lids you can just submerge the pressure cooking lid in water and do normal washing up to it.


Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 03 March, 2022, 05:41:46 pm
How big is a 2kg chicken?

It's at the bigger end of what you can buy at a stupormarket.
It's about right for a family of 4, where 2 are Voracious Oaves, assuming an adequate sufficiency of trimmings and tatties etc.
If I can only get a brute around the 1.5kg mark, then I need to get two.

Big enough to feed a family of six, I'd say.
An insufficiency of Voracious Oaves there, I think!

Better quality chooks will have more useable meat per unit weight than cheapies, IME.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 March, 2022, 06:22:02 pm
Yes, I was thinking the separate lids might lead to a more amenable dishwasher based cleaning solution. I can't think of 9 functions never mind fifteen. I'm a bit of a caveman cook. Me make fire. Put food on fire.

I have never contemplated the size of chickens before, I normally just look at one and think that looks big enough for two people and two cats.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: slope on 03 March, 2022, 06:23:55 pm
I wonder if we should have a new topic regarding air fryers/slow/pressure cookers?

Could some of the previous relevant posts - and especially nikki's chips photo be migrated there?

Just a thought.

Tonight I am experimenting further with the Ninja Foodi Grill AG301 (which I'd nearly given up on until THE CHIPS did for me)

So, halloumi and Brussels sprouts - to be 'air fried'.

Initial idea of coating the cheese slabs in spiced flour and polenta has given way to wanting to test the Ninja with something gooey and sticky. We now have 250g halloumi chunks marinading in 2tbsp of za'atar, 1 tbs of honey and 2 tbsp of olive oil. And 450g of Brussels sprouts halved and mixed with 1 tbsp of olive oil and a good finger grind of Maldon salt.

Plan is to 'air fry' the sprouts first @ 180ºC for about 10-12 minutes, with basket shaking inbetweens. Then 'air fry' the sticky gooey halloumi for ~ 8 minutes.

We shall see how it turns out? Plus will record the electricity required via a plug in monitor.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51916125983_7fd75bdbd7_h.jpg)

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 03 March, 2022, 06:32:52 pm
That sounds like a good way to cook sprouts. I usually do them in a frying pan on the hob - sauté briefly to put a bit of colour on them, then add butter and a splash of stock and braise until just cooked. I imagine you'll achieve similar results with the Foodi.

The halloumi sounds ace too.

nikki - those mochi snacks look amazing!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 March, 2022, 06:42:36 pm
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jurek on 03 March, 2022, 06:51:44 pm
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:
Not a fan?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: slope on 03 March, 2022, 08:00:28 pm
Turned out nice and rather pleased.

Sprouts and (added some carrot for colour mainly) cooked well with the right (for me) amount of blackened edges. Once cooked and before covering them in foil to keep warm - added some butter to melt there-over.

Halloumi very good, maybe 7 minutes instead of 8?

Made the mistake of bunging the cooking basket straight in the washing up bowl before wondering how the marinade residue might taste or how stuck? Answer being zero stick and totally wonderfully edible - even with soap suds! Mental note made for next time - and there will be a next time.

Total power consumption was 0.496 kWh. Enough to feed two hungry piggies.

Am deffo no Insta groover porno foodie snapper, so please excuse the pics

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51916822565_2f130cc685_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51916299213_98272847a2_b.jpg)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: slope on 03 March, 2022, 08:07:54 pm
ps thinking next time with hoisin and egg noodles? FuJun yeah!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: jsabine on 04 March, 2022, 12:06:43 am
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:

Nah. Shred the sprouts, crumble some black pudding. Heat the black pudding in a frying pan until the fat's melting out, add the shredded sprouts, then chase the whole mixture round the pan for a minute or three, until the sprouts are just showing a bit of colour. Lovely.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 March, 2022, 12:53:29 am
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:

Nah. Shred the sprouts, crumble some black pudding. Heat the black pudding in a frying pan until the fat's melting out, add the shredded sprouts, then chase the whole mixture round the pan for a minute or three, until the sprouts are just showing a bit of colour. Lovely.

And then send them to Ukraine for the defenders of Kyiv to fire at the Russian Army?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 04 March, 2022, 08:03:23 am
I wonder if we should have a new topic regarding air fryers/slow/pressure cookers?
Could some of the previous relevant posts - and especially nikki's chips photo be migrated there?


I'm very much up for more sprout influencing - have asked the mods if they'll move a chunk of these posts over to a new thread.

I'm not sure where halloumi sits with my lactose intolerance, but you've certainly made me want to try out some nice sticky marinades on the way to finding out!



Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 04 March, 2022, 08:27:07 am
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:

My son eats them raw. ;D
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 04 March, 2022, 08:33:03 am
How big is a 2kg chicken?

Big enough to feed a family of six, I'd say.

We can get things called coquelets which, Google tells me, are called poussins in English, har har.  I do them breast-down in the air fryer and get two servings out of one.  We can usually get quail, too, but it takes two for a half-decent meal and they taste much the same.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 04 March, 2022, 09:39:38 am
Sorry, citoyen, but the only good way to cook sprouts is to douse them with petril, cremate them utterly and bury the ashes at a crossroads at midnight :demon:

Nah. Shred the sprouts, crumble some black pudding. Heat the black pudding in a frying pan until the fat's melting out, add the shredded sprouts, then chase the whole mixture round the pan for a minute or three, until the sprouts are just showing a bit of colour. Lovely.

That sounds nice, but for me, sprouts don't need too much embellishment - they're perfectly good* without the addition of bacon, black pudding, chestnuts, whatever.

But I am sorely tempted to try them with black pudding, I must confess. It does sound good.

*yes, Mr L, they really are
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 04 March, 2022, 09:57:02 am
I'm a big fan of sauteed sprouts (and brassicas in general) – I just quarter or shred them. I don't eat bacon or black pudding so that kind of adulteration is off, but a bit of garlic and some chopped pine nut works well.

I might have bought a ninja machine thing, so let's see how they compare.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 04 March, 2022, 10:17:35 am
That sounds nice, but for me, sprouts don't need too much embellishment - they're perfectly good* without the addition of bacon, black pudding, chestnuts, whatever.

But I am sorely tempted to try them with black pudding, I must confess. It does sound good.

*yes, Mr L, they really are

Sprouts seem to be in the unfortunate position of having everyone knowing they're awful, whether or not they actually are. They used to be really harsh and bitter, but that's been bred out of them over the last 40 or so years, so now they're much milder.

And that means that those of us who really like sprouts think they're now a bit bland, and those who hated them still think they're hateful, and so the "sprouts are awful" idea is perpetuated.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 March, 2022, 10:21:40 am
Sprouts are better with a little bit of crunch in them.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: citoyen on 04 March, 2022, 10:22:19 am
They used to be really harsh and bitter, but that's been bred out of them over the last 40 or so years, so now they're much milder.

Interesting. I didn't know that. I assumed it was just down to the way my parents cooked them.

I have noticed some supermarket sprouts can be a bit bland but that's generally true of all supermarket veg. (It's amazing to have a proper carrot and be reminded that carrots actually do taste of something.)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 04 March, 2022, 11:00:26 am
The bitterness in sprouts has two components – there's a genetic disposition to taste the bitter chemicals, and the plant varieties themselves (so some people can't taste it anyway). There's generally been a move towards sweeter, less bitter varieties of most fruit and vegetables; and the fact we most buy from supermarkets mean basically we only get the one variety, and their main preoccupations are transport (and cosmetic appearance) and shelf-life, rather than taste, so the results tend towards the bland.

The other downside of this is that sweeter, less bitter varieties have more pests so have to be dowsed with more pesticide (those chemicals are basically natural pesticides).

I grew up with the heavily boiled sprouts which were soggy, smelly, and offputting. One Christmas, I projectile vomited a half-chewed sprout and hit my mother in the forehead. Soggy on the outside, frozen the middle (my parents don't eat anything that hasn't been in the freezer first).
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 March, 2022, 11:22:58 am
I love sprouts. I keep hinting to Pingu that he should make his sprout curry more often. It's amazeballs.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 March, 2022, 11:40:43 am
Joak about Russian gas supplies goes here ==>
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 04 March, 2022, 11:46:25 am
I might have bought a ninja machine thing, so let's see how they compare.

 ;D :thumbsup:
What are you going to cook first?


I love sprouts. I keep hinting to Pingu that he should make his sprout curry more often. It's amazeballs.

Henceforth the vegetables formerly known as 'sprouts' will now be referred to as 'amazeballs' in this household.


I just learned I can air fry a fried egg.

[TW: photo also contains fried potato]

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Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 04 March, 2022, 11:50:53 am
Gagh!  Hungry now!  Want egg and chips!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 04 March, 2022, 12:36:58 pm
Assuming satisfactory unboxing before this evening, I'm going to cook halloumi and greek-style potatoes (I made this up, greek chips I normally call them, but I have some little potatoes that I'll turn into wedges with olive oil and various herbs and crushed coriander seeds). The cheese will go in flatbreads, served up with the potatoes and a side salad of chopped cucumber, tomatoes, olive oil, oregano, mint, coriander, and lemon thyme. Tzatziki and hummus on the side. I just have to wait till 10pm now.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 04 March, 2022, 01:40:36 pm
We just call those "potatoey chips" esp from Cafe Kino, which despite its name has no Greek leanings (it simply used to be a cinema way back in, I think, the 1920s).
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 04 March, 2022, 03:36:39 pm
Joak about Russian gas supplies goes here ==>

Maybe they could cross sprouts with asparagus...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 04 March, 2022, 05:05:17 pm
We have a bottle of stuff in the cupboard called Fry Light. It's a blend of rapeseed oil, water, emulsifiers, thickening agents and alcohol - presumably to make it the right consistency for spraying. It's really nasty. It wasn't me who bought it and I won't use it - tried it once, never again.

Many years ago, I encountered this on a camping trip.  It seemed quite convenient in that context, but I decided it was probably made of WD40 and water.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 04 March, 2022, 05:48:52 pm
I think we have a bottle somewhere, it just seems to squirt a strange milky fluid everywhere you don't want it squirted. Weird stuff.

I put the ingredients in a bowl, add a glug of oil and give it a good mix.

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 04 March, 2022, 08:37:59 pm
Assuming satisfactory unboxing before this evening, I'm going to cook halloumi and greek-style potatoes
[...]
I just have to wait till 10pm now.

Sounds good! Standing by for photos at 22:25...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 05 March, 2022, 12:01:20 am
it just seems to squirt a strange milky fluid everywhere you don't want it squirted.

Snigger? Surely worth a snigger?

I think that's OK.

Yeah, I'm going for it.

Snigger...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Slave To The Viking on 05 March, 2022, 12:05:07 am
They used to be really harsh and bitter, but that's been bred out of them over the last 40 or so years, so now they're much milder.

Interesting. I didn't know that. I assumed it was just down to the way my parents cooked them.

I have noticed some supermarket sprouts can be a bit bland but that's generally true of all supermarket veg. (It's amazing to have a proper carrot and be reminded that carrots actually do taste of something.)

Amen to that. My kids are happy to munch at most veg and will pick at bits from the fridge or the pantry quite regularly, but when it's in season, they'll just go off rummaging through the garden and nibbling for ages.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 05 March, 2022, 11:38:57 am
Assuming satisfactory unboxing before this evening, I'm going to cook halloumi and greek-style potatoes
[...]
I just have to wait till 10pm now.

Sounds good! Standing by for photos at 22:25...

I failed to take any photos, but the potatoes, sliced into quarters, seasoned and oiled and air fried for twenty minutes came out perfectly (I was in two minds whether they needed a brief cook first, I usually parboil them before the oven). Probably needed a bit less oil, but they were better than oven-cooked. I nudged them to one side and put the sliced halloumi in for the last eight minutes (I guessed and just peeked in the top till it was done). Quite impressed considering I guessed the settings and timings.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 05 March, 2022, 07:17:13 pm
came out perfectly

Phew!

Particular friends now know to bring mochi over when they're in town.
We threw open the windows, brought the Foodi in from the kitchen and huddled around it for a) warmth and b) SCIENCE.

We tried the airfriedfriedegg technique this time to try and increase productivity, which was mostly okay. I'm not sure about the non-sesame flavours though.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51918957057_0b7e1c2fda_c.jpg)

Then we upped the ante:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51920240814_fdd10e2c0a_c.jpg)

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That's why I love this thing - haven't stopped trying out new things since I got it!


Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 07 March, 2022, 11:47:23 am
Last night I rejuvenated a chunk of very hard baguette by running tapwater on it for a couple of seconds and giving it ~3 min @ 200°C in the air fryer. Crust was edible again and the inside was still cool so it didn't melt the fake butter.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 29 March, 2022, 10:56:10 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/kitchen_gadgets

Who wouldn't want to core apples with a sheep bone?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rogerzilla on 29 March, 2022, 11:08:40 am
My mother used to have a cake slice with a built-in sliding "pusher" operated by your thumb.  Unfortunately the pushing bit was sloping, so it lifted the cake rather than nudging it onto the plate.  It became known as the "cake flipper-upside-downer".

A lot of kitchen shite was sold in the past because people had friends who were agents for Tupperware, Betterware or Kleen-Eze.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 April, 2022, 10:37:02 pm
Wine glasses. I have a thing about glasses. I am very pernickety about the shape, size and weight of my drink ware.
I've recently broken the 2nd last one of my favoured red wine glasses. They were John Lewis' own from a few years back and they don't sell them anymore.
Most decent sized wine glasses come with a stem that is way too long. That's just asking to be knocked over. But I do want a stem. And I want a glass that's not so thin it will break if you look at it, but isn't too thick either.
What a pain it is trying to find a replacement that fits my exacting requirements.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rr on 04 April, 2022, 11:01:30 pm
Wine glasses. I have a thing about glasses. I am very pernickety about the shape, size and weight of my drink ware.
I've recently broken the 2nd last one of my favoured red wine glasses. They were John Lewis' own from a few years back and they don't sell them anymore.
Most decent sized wine glasses come with a stem that is way too long. That's just asking to be knocked over. But I do want a stem. And I want a glass that's not so thin it will break if you look at it, but isn't too thick either.
What a pain it is trying to find a replacement that fits my exacting requirements.  :facepalm:
I swear by ikea's cheapest, good size, good shape, stem right length to fit the dishwasher, fine but not too delicate. Under £1.
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/svalka-wine-glass-clear-glass-30015123/

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Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 05 April, 2022, 04:36:23 pm
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 05 April, 2022, 08:05:15 pm
I have similar issues with wine glasses.

I need glasses with the right balance of bowl size/shape: not too small, but not a goldfish-bowl;
Glass thickness: not chunky, but not fragile;
Stem length: must fit in the dishwasher.

Our everyday glasses are Ikea ones too.

I'm not averse to fancy delicate ones for special occasions, but for everyday use they need to be rather more practical. And things that don't go in the dishwasher get an automatic -50 point penalty!

Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 05 April, 2022, 08:14:42 pm
I'm not sure how you're drinking wine, but the boxes I have come with a tap that dispenses wine directly into your mouth, sort of like a boozy scuba apparatus. This has the added bonus of cutting down on washing up, which – for those of us with a demonically possessed dishwasher* – is a significant plus.

*sadly now a confirmed case of diabolical expropriation.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 05 April, 2022, 08:14:58 pm
@feanor Glad it's not just me  ;D

@ian we had to give up on the boxes years ago cos we were drinking too much.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Canardly on 05 April, 2022, 08:31:00 pm
We do have one of those cucumber spiral cutter things, still in its box and never used for the past several years.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 05 April, 2022, 08:45:17 pm
I'm not sure how you're drinking wine, but the boxes I have come with a tap that dispenses wine directly into your mouth, sort of like a boozy scuba apparatus. This has the added bonus of cutting down on washing up, which – for those of us with a demonically possessed dishwasher* – is a significant plus.

*sadly now a confirmed case of diabolical expropriation.

A certain Hummers otp entertained us at an Audax reunion by wearing a bag from a wine box under his clothes and routing the tap through the flies...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 05 April, 2022, 10:09:29 pm
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nicknack on 05 April, 2022, 10:21:58 pm
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
Sounds like Morrison's cheapo ones that we use.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 06 April, 2022, 09:20:00 am
@feanor Glad it's not just me  ;D

@ian we had to give up on the boxes years ago cos we were drinking too much.

I'm not big on wine, but I keep a box of red and a box of white around, mostly for cooking purposes. I have the occasional glass (chef's perogative), but mostly to ensure that I don't end up with two boxes of wine vinegar.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: rr on 06 April, 2022, 11:51:20 pm
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51987334288_5d52eb03c4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)Wine glass for Mrs Pingu (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN) by Richard Rajham (https://www.flickr.com/photos/189177564@N02/), on Flickr

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Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Pingu on 07 April, 2022, 09:25:33 am
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
(https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51987334288_ed915c4537_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)
Wine glass for Mrs Pingu (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN) by Richard Rajham (https://www.flickr.com/photos/189177564@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: T42 on 07 April, 2022, 10:07:47 am
Someone got me one of those tapes ~30 years ago. The scale you want to use is always on the wrong edge.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Flite on 07 April, 2022, 11:00:54 am
I buy wine glasses from charity shops. They are not packaged so I can pick them up and decide if I like them.
Some of the older ones are really nice quality, and it's the easiest way to buy old-fashioned 125 ml glasses.
That's how we control our alcohol intake - one and a half small glasses is much more satisfying than one big glug!
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Feanor on 07 April, 2022, 11:14:35 am
Someone got me one of those tapes ~30 years ago. The scale you want to use is always on the wrong edge.

But you can use funky hybrid measurements instead: "eight inches and three millimeters" :-)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nikki on 07 April, 2022, 11:31:55 am
Today's Ninja Foodi experiment is pressure cooked cheesecake.

Yesterday I noticed that my go-to recipe from The Before Times (it's so unhealthy I have a rule that it must be shared between at least 10 people) uses all of the units: half a block; about a dozen; teaspoon or two; a whole packet; 675g; 8oz; 2; 10 floz...

Weird, but it works! (In the regular oven, at least...)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: nicknack on 07 April, 2022, 11:46:09 am
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
Sounds like Morrison's cheapo ones that we use.
I just had a quick peek in the glass cupboard. I counted 47 various wine glasses. 2 of them get used regularly. One of them being a cheapo Morrison's one.
I also counted 98 other sorts.
Two people live here and we got rid of a load of glasses when we moved 9 years ago.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 07 April, 2022, 12:50:05 pm
Despite breaking what feels like thousands of wine glasses, never knowingly having bought any wine glasses, and not even drinking much wine, I still have two entire kitchen cupboards full of wine glasses. I think they breed.

In the good old days of being a student, we used to drink wine looted from my French flatmate's family wine cellar (in an actual chateau, his father is a famous Frenchie) out of tea mugs (washed with typical student aplomb). Pure class.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 07 April, 2022, 01:06:01 pm
We're not grown up enough to own wine glasses.  Not drinking wine helps, of course.  Barakta re-gifted the mirror-universe[1] civilisation champagne, which was the last time we had any.

(We had a decorative wine glass for a while, but it broke.)



[1] Her family like to refer to her by my ex's name.  It's confusing at the best of times, but was actually weird seeing it on a custom printed congratulatory wine label.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 07 April, 2022, 02:18:58 pm
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
(https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)

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Thank you :)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 08 April, 2022, 05:57:08 pm
Predictably, the Ikea Click & Collect place had every glass apart from the 2 models I wanted to look at. So I've had to order online for delivery (I fail to grok how they decide what you can have delivered to the C&C vs home but never mind...)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 08 April, 2022, 11:50:05 pm
I fail to grok how they decide what you can have delivered to the C&C vs home but never mind...

I assume it's somehow related to the delivery staff getting lost in the twisty maze of Ikea products, all different.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Jaded on 09 April, 2022, 12:19:11 am
Hmm. Good shout. I wonder if they have any in the Furrybootoon click & collect place. I see they have the height on the website but not the stem length.....

For the record my favoured glass is 20cm tall and the stem length is approx 8cm...
(https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51987334288_ed915c4537_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN)
Wine glass for Mrs Pingu (https://flic.kr/p/2ncWFgN) by Richard Rajham (https://www.flickr.com/photos/189177564@N02/), on Flickr

That looks like a glass I have drunk from in the past.

Trying to remember where we got (some of) our glasses from.

Have you tried Debenhams?
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 09 April, 2022, 11:12:25 am
Hadn't thought about there. Will try if I don't get on with the IKEA ones.
Meanwhile, who thought these were a good idea? https://www.debenhams.com/product/villeroy-boch-newmoon-set-of-4-red-wine-glasses_p-d52acb2b-6811-4272-9d94-4a8a19ae4caa?colour=Clear (https://www.debenhams.com/product/villeroy-boch-newmoon-set-of-4-red-wine-glasses_p-d52acb2b-6811-4272-9d94-4a8a19ae4caa?colour=Clear)
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: hellymedic on 09 April, 2022, 02:20:58 pm
Some ****ing 'designer'…
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Kim on 09 April, 2022, 02:25:36 pm
Some ****ing 'designer'…

...who thought it would be funny if people spilled wine everywhere once they were a bit pissed.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mr Larrington on 09 April, 2022, 02:39:36 pm
It’s so the upper bit of the rim presses against the bridge of yer conk while drinking, thereby enhancing the bouquet of the vino.  Or there’s been a pretentious ponce at work.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 11 April, 2022, 05:41:27 pm
My remaining JLP favourite on the left, the Ikea replacement on the right.
Stem isn't quite as robust and the shape isn't quite as pleasing, but close enough and a darn sight better than the ridiculous Sainsbo's ones.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51998133850_c85282d9e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ndU2B9)2022-04-11_05-18-31 (https://flic.kr/p/2ndU2B9) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: pcolbeck on 12 April, 2022, 02:30:25 pm
I mainly drink wine out of glasses like these:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1216/2612/files/main_1d8f21f4-4b21-4e30-9299-fd67ff586ffe.png?v=1592384332)

This is because Mrs Pcolbeck says I am a clumsy oaf who isn't to be trusted with nice glasses with stems.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 12 April, 2022, 05:05:30 pm
I did consider them but if you hold on to them your wine gets all hot (pretty much what happens with Pingu's glass anyway - when I go to refill I can tell his from the heat).
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ian on 03 May, 2022, 11:55:34 am
I fear my trusty ancient Cusineart coffee-bot is dead (blows the circuit breaker, assume something is connecting with something it shouldn't). This is a very sad day, we were very good friends.
Title: Re: favouritekitchenthings
Post by: ravenbait on 06 May, 2022, 04:18:00 pm
Hadn't thought about there. Will try if I don't get on with the IKEA ones.
Meanwhile, who thought these were a good idea? https://www.debenhams.com/product/villeroy-boch-newmoon-set-of-4-red-wine-glasses_p-d52acb2b-6811-4272-9d94-4a8a19ae4caa?colour=Clear (https://www.debenhams.com/product/villeroy-boch-newmoon-set-of-4-red-wine-glasses_p-d52acb2b-6811-4272-9d94-4a8a19ae4caa?colour=Clear)

TBH, they look a lot like the bulk-standard wine glasses you can get in Tesco Extra in Danestone. There's a big Tesco on the Lang Stracht, you could try there? Or the one at Westhill?

Sam