Author Topic: Pronunciation that makes you cringe  (Read 115843 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #900 on: 11 May, 2022, 08:30:24 am »
I don't know how you actually say Ncuti Gatwa, the new Dr Who actor – I'd never heard of him before – but I guess that could be another example?

I saw/heard a video with an African.

It's 'Shootee Gatwa'
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #901 on: 11 May, 2022, 11:43:34 am »
That particular consonant cluster doesn't seem to come easily to English speakers.

I knever had any trouble with it.

Surely most people can say 'knock-knee' without it sounding like 'knocker-knee', even if they live in Hackney...
Is it still a cluster when it's separate words though? Don't we insert a micro-pause? The final k of knock is attached to the preceding o, and the n of knee is attached to the following ee.

Knipex is pronounced sort of like kn'ipex. The k isn't silent and is like the first k in kick. Its like if you pronounced the k in "knight"
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #902 on: 11 May, 2022, 11:55:44 am »
What is knipex - and why (or y)?

I've just thought.  Maybe a correcting fluid for unnecessary consonants?

Kim

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #903 on: 11 May, 2022, 04:40:32 pm »
What is knipex

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #904 on: 12 May, 2022, 06:44:17 pm »
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #905 on: 08 July, 2022, 07:05:20 pm »
While I do not expect 21st century BBC announcers to sound like John Snagge I do expect them to know that the word they seek is “episode”.  Not “efisode” >:(
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #906 on: 08 July, 2022, 07:19:04 pm »
While I do not expect 21st century BBC announcers to sound like John Snagge...

I just can't help myself...

Quote
Snagge: My name is Snagge, John Snagge.
FX: [Two coins land in a cup]
Snagge: Thank you Sir Ian. It was June, 19-quifty-qua that the lad, Wallace Greenslade, first came to the BBC seeking refuge from hard work.
FX: [Typewriter]
Greenslade: Good morning, Miss, I'm Mr. W. Greenslade.
Receptionist (Female - Sellers): Oh, yes, you've come for the vacant post of announcer.
Greenslade: Yes, I have.
Receptionist: Do take a seat with the other applicants.
Greenslade: Thank you. I sat down next to a man wearing a brass deerstalker, white cricket boots, and a shredded cardboard wig.
Eccles: Ha-llo!
Greenslade: Good morning.
Eccles: Winds light to variable.
Greenslade: Pardon?
Eccles: I said, "Winds light to variable."
Greenslade: Oh, really.
Eccles: Yeah. Winds light to variable. I'm practising, you know.
Greenslade: Don't tell me you're applying for the post of announcer?
Eccles: Oh, yeah! And I'll get it too, you'll see! I'm wearing a Cambridge tie!
Greenslade: You? You were at Cambridge?
Eccles: Yeah!
Greenslade: What were you doing there?
Eccles: Buying a tie.

and many others.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #907 on: 08 July, 2022, 07:21:27 pm »
Oh yes.  Good old Snaggers!
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ElyDave

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #908 on: 08 July, 2022, 08:39:54 pm »
I have that one^^ and a few others on CD, still worth a guffaw
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #909 on: 25 July, 2022, 09:04:43 pm »
Not a cringe, because apart from anything else I haven't heard anyone say it, but how on earth would you pronounce Auroralumina attenboroughii? The problem, obviously, is the combination of the English surname with the Latin ending. If you just stick the -ii on the end of a normally pronounced Attenborough, there's an almost overwhelming urge – even a need – for an intrusive R. (Or is it a connective R? I can't remember the technical difference now.) That would be fine in an English context, but in a scientific context, where the name is supposed to internationally uniform or at least recognizable, it could lead to confusion. If on the other hand you elide the -ii straight on to the attenbor-, then your international audience will think you've missed a syllable. There probably isn't an Auroralumina attenborii, so in practice they'll probably know what you're talking about, but still. And of course, some of them are likely to pronounce the -gh, probably in an amusing variety of ways (to English ears, but again possibly confusing to others: Attenborouf? Attenboroug? Attenburg? Attenburoh? Attenborow?).

But I guess he probably has the advantage of being sufficiently well known that many people are familiar with his name, unlike all the other names this has already happened with!

https://www.science.org/content/article/david-attenborough-gets-namesake-oldest-known-relative-living-animals
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #910 on: 26 July, 2022, 10:50:45 pm »
I'd say go with the sound, not the spelling.

Add "ee" /i/ to the end of atenbora*.

*approximate spelling

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #911 on: 27 July, 2022, 10:39:14 am »
Or even eeyee.
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #912 on: 01 August, 2022, 06:48:15 pm »
When my headphones are running low on juice, I get a little voice message in my ears:
“Baddery very low, recharge now”

…with low rhyming with now.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #913 on: 02 August, 2022, 02:00:58 pm »
Odd pronunciation happening yesterday. I was told I have a Scottish accent. Anyone who's ever spoken to me will be surprised at this. Probably.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #914 on: 04 August, 2022, 08:29:49 am »
What determines whether you have one 'i' or two 'i's at the end of your binomial name?  My uncle (cue tenuous claim to fame) has a prehistoric Antipodean wading bird Hakawai melvillei named after him...